Re: Issue with GOG native games and opengl?

2015-03-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/17/15 08:38, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > The game works in current f21, but not rawhide. I suspect this is due to mesa > or nouveau versions rather than a bug. Are you saying you're trying to use the game under rawhide and it doesn't workbut that it does work in the released and "support

Issue with GOG native games and opengl?

2015-03-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
When running Icewind Dale's start up script I get the following: Running Icewind Dale Enhanced Edition libGL error: unable to load driver: nouveau_dri.so libGL error: driver pointer missing libGL error: failed to load driver: nouveau libGL error: unable to load driver: swrast_dri.so libGL error: f

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/16/2015 04:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/17/15 06:25, Joe Zeff wrote: My laptop reports several kerneloops every time it boots. AFAIK, there's nothing installed that taints the kernel, but 99% of the time abrt tells me that the kernel is tainted and that I can't report it. Suggestions?

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/17/15 06:25, Joe Zeff wrote: > My laptop reports several kerneloops every time it boots. AFAIK, there's > nothing installed that taints the kernel, but 99% of the time abrt tells me > that the kernel is tainted and that I can't report it. Suggestions? (If you > need, I can get you a copy

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/17/15 07:43, Chris Murphy wrote: > Crude but this should work > # journalctl -b -l -o short-monotonic | grep -i "tainted" That won't work since the string in the journal is "taints kernel" -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedo

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/16/2015 02:29 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> >> Reboot into a stock kernel without the modules? Ask other people for >> help in replicating? Contact the vendor of the binary module and ask >> for their help? > > > My laptop reports several ker

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/16/2015 02:29 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Reboot into a stock kernel without the modules? Ask other people for help in replicating? Contact the vendor of the binary module and ask for their help? My laptop reports several kerneloops every time it boots. AFAIK, there's nothing installed th

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 01:59:17PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > >That's a lot of obligation to put onto someone you are not paying. The > >kernel maintainers have a huge and constantly growing pile of work. I > >don't think it's unreasonable to ask for bug submitters to recreate the > >crash on a stock

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/16/2015 12:37 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> >> Just because the crash doesn't occur in an out of tree module, doesn't >> mean that the out of tree module isn't instigating the problem though. > > > Agreed. That's why I suggested trying to d

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > out of tree kernel affects kernel behavior. tree kernel ^module -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fe

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/16/2015 01:46 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: That's a lot of obligation to put onto someone you are not paying. The kernel maintainers have a huge and constantly growing pile of work. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for bug submitters to recreate the crash on a stock system. What do you

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/16/2015 12:37 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Just because the crash doesn't occur in an out of tree module, doesn't mean that the out of tree module isn't instigating the problem though. Agreed. That's why I suggested trying to duplicate the crash with an untainted kernel. -- users mailing l

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 09:58:54AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > >Since none of the crashes occur in the modules > >inserted via akmods, why is the fedora abrt not > >allowing thes ending of such reports? > I've been thinking the same thing. If nothing else, whoever is > assigned to the bug should try

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:44:16AM -0600, jd1008 wrote: > Since none of the crashes occur in the modules > inserted via akmods, why is the fedora abrt not > allowing thes ending of such reports? Kernel modules can pretty much do whatever they like once they're loaded; how do you demonstrate that t

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:44 AM, jd1008 wrote: > Since none of the crashes occur in the modules > inserted via akmods, why is the fedora abrt not > allowing thes ending of such reports? I think this question needs to go to the Fedora devel@ list, or maybe also kernel@ as a cross-post (explicitl

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Roger Heflin
If it is a obvious bug, yes those are easy to find, the obvious bugs also have lots of crashes tainted or untainted. The ones that always get everyone in trouble are the ones were something modifies something unrelated to it and causes someone else's code to crash in a bizarre way. On Mon, Mar 1

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread jd1008
On 03/16/2015 11:29 AM, Roger Heflin wrote: Recreating a rare crash even when you know the exact conditions that caused the crash is very very difficult.I have been involved in not so rare crashes (we had some machines of the exact same hw type that all crashed randomly about 1x per week).

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread jd1008
On 03/16/2015 10:58 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/16/2015 09:44 AM, jd1008 wrote: Since none of the crashes occur in the modules inserted via akmods, why is the fedora abrt not allowing thes ending of such reports? I've been thinking the same thing. If nothing else, whoever is assigned to the

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Roger Heflin
Recreating a rare crash even when you know the exact conditions that caused the crash is very very difficult.I have been involved in not so rare crashes (we had some machines of the exact same hw type that all crashed randomly about 1x per week). And duplicating that crash tied up a test ma

Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/16/2015 09:44 AM, jd1008 wrote: Since none of the crashes occur in the modules inserted via akmods, why is the fedora abrt not allowing thes ending of such reports? I've been thinking the same thing. If nothing else, whoever is assigned to the bug should try to recreate the crash on a s

Re: kernel-core-3.18.9-200.fc21.x86_64 fails to boot

2015-03-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/16/2015 09:34 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I already have akmod installed, but it didn't seem to do anything in this case. Interesting. Have you checked to see if the appropriate kmod exists and has the proper date stamp? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Crashes of tainted kernels

2015-03-16 Thread jd1008
Many of us need akmods for our hardware. But when the kernel crashes or ooops'es, we are unable to send the crash report. Since none of the crashes occur in the modules inserted via akmods, why is the fedora abrt not allowing thes ending of such reports? At least provide a way for us to send t

Re: kernel-core-3.18.9-200.fc21.x86_64 fails to boot

2015-03-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 09:19 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/16/2015 01:26 AM, Frédéric Bron wrote: > > for me, I always have to run 'yum update' twice. The first time, I get > > the new kernel from fedora, then I need to reboot and do 'yum update' > > again for the nvidia driver. > > That's odd. I

Re: kernel-core-3.18.9-200.fc21.x86_64 fails to boot

2015-03-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/16/2015 01:26 AM, Frédéric Bron wrote: for me, I always have to run 'yum update' twice. The first time, I get the new kernel from fedora, then I need to reboot and do 'yum update' again for the nvidia driver. That's odd. I use yumex, which is just a GUI front-end for yum, and I normally

Re: Yum suggestion

2015-03-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:54:47AM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Yum tells me the repos where it fails to find a package, > but not those where it succeeds. > It would be nice to know who around the world > I should be grateful to. Hi Timothy! You can see the full mirror list at

Re: How to increase maximum user cpu usage allowed on a multi core system?

2015-03-16 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 09.03.2015, Martin Cigorraga wrote: > Just a minor clarification: when compiling, the -j flag should point to a > unit above your available cores in order to fully utilize all of them. Curious what would happen, I remembered this mail when compiling a new kernel today. A "nice -n 19 make -j"

Re: kernel-core-3.18.9-200.fc21.x86_64 fails to boot

2015-03-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:25:39 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > This is a meta-package without payload which sole purpose is to > require the > nvidia kernel module(s) for the newest kernel. > to make sure you get it together with a new kernel. You need to read the detail

Re: kernel-core-3.18.9-200.fc21.x86_64 fails to boot

2015-03-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 09:26 +0100, Frédéric Bron wrote: > > Installed the latest stable kernel using yum. On booting, a few seconds > > after the splash screen, I get a solitary blinking cursor. > > Rebooting with the previous version (3.18.8-201) works fine. > > Video is an Nvidia GT630 using the

Re: installing fedora on HEWLETT PACKARD pavilion 500

2015-03-16 Thread Angelo Moreschini
studying this my problem (which is connected to the use of the UEFI on HP computers in place of the traditional BIOS) I found this link: http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/index.html There is wrote : "The way EFI computers boot is very different from the way older computers based on the B

Re: kernel-core-3.18.9-200.fc21.x86_64 fails to boot

2015-03-16 Thread Frédéric Bron
> Installed the latest stable kernel using yum. On booting, a few seconds > after the splash screen, I get a solitary blinking cursor. > Rebooting with the previous version (3.18.8-201) works fine. > Video is an Nvidia GT630 using the kmod-nvidia driver. for me, I always have to run 'yum update' t

Re: installing fedora on HEWLETT PACKARD pavilion 500

2015-03-16 Thread Angelo Moreschini
the output for lsblk is : [liveuser@localhost ~]$ lsblk NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda 8:00 931.5G 0 disk ├─sda1 8:10 1023M 0 part ├─sda2 8:20 360M 0 part ├─sda3