Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread James Hogarth
On Mar 5, 2015 1:03 AM, "Chris Murphy" wrote: > > logrotate-3.8.7-4.fc21.x86_64 is already installed by default with > Fedora 21 Workstation. I don't know why, seems unnecessary. But it's > there. > Don't forget this covers more than just syslog messages... Httpd logs for instance need logrotate

Re: Different behaviour running under strace?

2015-03-04 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/04/2015 05:01 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: Here's a weird one: A system at work has (God knows why) a gazillion symlinks directly under / pointing to NFS mountpoints for filesystems (some of which might well have high latency). If I run "df -l", using the -l option in the apparently vain hope th

Re: Editing wav media information

2015-03-04 Thread g
On 03/04/2015 03:28 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 03/04/2015 03:22 PM, g wrote: <<<>>> >> simple is as simple does. >> >> 1- if files are on system hdd, ie, 'ripped' files, >> program is call 'any file browser'. ;-) > > This will not touch the meta data within the wav file. At least I do

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 19:50:11 -0500 > Tom H wrote: > >> I just did a clean install of F21 with rsyslog and it's logging to >> "/var/log/messages" and co without any edits. > > I get about 1/10th of the log messages in /var/log/messages > with a "s

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 19:50:11 -0500 Tom H wrote: > I just did a clean install of F21 with rsyslog and it's logging to > "/var/log/messages" and co without any edits. I get about 1/10th of the log messages in /var/log/messages with a "standard" install, there is something there, but nothing like all

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread Chris Murphy
logrotate-3.8.7-4.fc21.x86_64 is already installed by default with Fedora 21 Workstation. I don't know why, seems unnecessary. But it's there. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/l

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: > So... the statement "Hey, this fedora-as-a-developer's-playground stuff is > getting in the way of me doing my thing" is not "overtly negative" and it's > not just an "opinion rant." It's a *user* talking about *user* issues. > And the respons

Different behaviour running under strace?

2015-03-04 Thread Tom Horsley
Here's a weird one: A system at work has (God knows why) a gazillion symlinks directly under / pointing to NFS mountpoints for filesystems (some of which might well have high latency). If I run "df -l", using the -l option in the apparently vain hope that it might not timeout forever on some NFS m

Is systemd failing to wait for USB now?

2015-03-04 Thread Tom Horsley
I've always had problems with systemd not actually waiting for the network to be up before letting network dependent services run. Now the last couple of updates I've installed I have a new symptom: The system appears to (sometimes) zoom right past something that would allow USB to work correctly.

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 15:53:15 Tom H wrote: >> >> The reason that you have to make these changes to rsyslog.conf and >> journal.conf is that rsyslog is set up to get journal logs by default >> via its imjournal module. So your changes aren't necess

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread Bill Oliver
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015, Pete Travis wrote: If my tone at the beginning suggested otherwise, it was because I've seen threads like this turn into "I like the old thing fine so Fedora should not use the new thing" many, many times.  The discussion is never productive and rarely based on any techn

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread Pete Travis
On Mar 4, 2015 3:17 PM, "Will Yonker" wrote: > > >> Doesn't this depend on what version you install? I think the > >> workstation > > version does not include rsyslog whereas the server version does. > >> > >> I too found it more than a little concerning when I was trying to help > > troubleshoot

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 15:53:15 -0500 Tom H wrote: > The reason that you have to make these changes to rsyslog.conf and > journal.conf is that rsyslog is set up to get journal logs by default > via its imjournal module. So your changes aren't necessary; unless > there's a bug. Depends on which releas

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread Will Yonker
>> Doesn't this depend on what version you install? I think the >> workstation > version does not include rsyslog whereas the server version does. >> >> I too found it more than a little concerning when I was trying to help > troubleshoot an issue on one of our admin's systems. I logged in, did

Re: Editing wav media information

2015-03-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 03/04/2015 03:22 PM, g wrote: On 03/02/2015 01:52 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Is there a simple program for editing a wav files media information? Like the name of the track displayed in VLC? Prefer a Xfce tool, but KDE or Gnome is fine also. Just looking for something simple, not audacit

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 13:46:43, Dan Irwin wrote: >> >> What kind of secret voodoo does one need to use rsyslog on a systemd >> system? Is it even possible? > > From my notes on making fedora usable: > > rsyslog isn't installed by default, so you ge

Re: Editing wav media information

2015-03-04 Thread g
On 03/02/2015 01:52 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Is there a simple program for editing a wav files media information? > Like the name of the track displayed in VLC? > > Prefer a Xfce tool, but KDE or Gnome is fine also. Just looking for > something simple, not audacity... simple is as simpl

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/04/2015 11:04 AM, Pete Travis wrote: If you're open to typing a different command to access logs, here are a few you might find interesting: And, of course, if you use any of them frequently, you can always use alias to make things simpler. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread Pete Travis
On Mar 4, 2015 8:41 AM, wrote: > > > On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 13:46:43 +1000 > > Dan Irwin wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> What kind of secret voodoo does one need to use rsyslog on a systemd > >> system? Is it even possible? > > > > From my notes on making fedora usable: > > > > rsyslog isn't install

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 15:40:39 - arag...@dcsnow.com wrote: > Is there really a good reason to > not use the messages file anymore? If you are trying to use the system, no, there is no good reason. If you are tying to sell more maintenance contracts, then yes, changing things for no good reason

Re: computer boot (some times) in emergency mode.

2015-03-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2015-03-04 at 15:56 +0200, Angelo Moreschini wrote: > Now I want only to check why a HD, 'Western Digital with only a few > months > of life, has gone faulty .. > > I know there are programs, made by the manufacturers of HD, that allow > you > to make these types of control man smartd p

Re: rsyslog

2015-03-04 Thread aragonx
> On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 13:46:43 +1000 > Dan Irwin wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> What kind of secret voodoo does one need to use rsyslog on a systemd >> system? Is it even possible? > > From my notes on making fedora usable: > > rsyslog isn't installed by default, so you get no log files > you can lo

Re: computer boot (some times) in emergency mode.

2015-03-04 Thread Angelo Moreschini
Hi I had serious problems. Because I didn't check immediately the hard disk with the bad sector, the time of booting stretched at every subsequent opening; and, at last, I was not able anymore to start Fedora .. So I had to make the restore of my installation, using a clone that I took befo