Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 5, 2014, at 9:42 AM, "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > What am I doing wrong, this shouldn't be so complicated? Or is it? It think it's complicated. I honestly think you're better off using Boxes, which is installed by default with Fedora 20. Maybe also Fedora 19. In any ca

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 19:03 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 16:39:37 -0600 > Pete Travis wrote: > > > This sounds like you're just looking for *some* way to run a VM. > > I don't know about him, but some software I need to run in > a Windows 7 VM needs 3D acceleration to work (not

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 16:39:37 -0600 Pete Travis wrote: > This sounds like you're just looking for *some* way to run a VM. I don't know about him, but some software I need to run in a Windows 7 VM needs 3D acceleration to work (not fast, just at all :-). That doesn't seem to function with QXL/Spice

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Pete Travis
On Sep 5, 2014 10:07 AM, "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" < bobgood...@wildblue.net> wrote: > > > On 09/05/14 11:52, Kevin Martin wrote: >> >> How did you install VirtualBox (via kmod/akmod or from virtualbox.org)? Have you recently updated your kernel? If you've done the >> latter then you'll

Re: network-manager-applet

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/05/2014 03:06 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: I'm running xfce4 4.10 (yum latest) with the network-manager-applet (also latest) installed. When the disto was first installed, the applet was installed in the #2 panel at the bottom of the screen. I deleted that panel, but the applet did not show

Re: No mount of Android phone

2014-09-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 22:41 +0200, Frank Elsner wrote: > can somebody explain why my Android phone is not mounted? Later versions of Android don't allow this unless the phone is rooted. You are expected to communicate using a more restricted protocol called MTP. It's actually very restricted, e.g.

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Kevin Martin
On 09/05/2014 05:06 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 13:45 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: >> On 09/05/2014 11:06 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >>> >>> On 09/05/14 11:52, Kevin Martin wrote: > > Just to be clear: if you keep to the standard Fedora kernels there's n

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 11:47 -0700, Marvin Kosmal wrote: > How do I configure google mail to let me bottom post? I googled and > just > found references to grease monkey and that didn't get me anywhere. There's no setting for that, but you can get the effect by selecting the text to be quoted befo

Re: No mount of Android phone

2014-09-05 Thread Kevin Martin
On 09/05/2014 03:41 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: > > Helo, > > can somebody explain why my Android phone is not mounted? > > The relevant lines from /var/loG/messages: > > Sep 5 22:30:15 pangea kernel: [231733.246914] usb 2-1.1: new high-speed USB > device number 24 using ehci-pci > Sep 5 22:30:1

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 22:02 +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On Friday, September 05, 2014 05:02:06 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Did you get the package from the Fedora repo or from the VirtualBox.org > > repo? > > You might be talking about RPMFusion version and Virtualbox.org version. Yes, >

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 13:45 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: > On 09/05/2014 11:06 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > > > On 09/05/14 11:52, Kevin Martin wrote: > >> How did you install VirtualBox (via kmod/akmod or from virtualbox.org)? > >> Have you recently updated your kernel? If yo

network-manager-applet

2014-09-05 Thread Geoffrey Leach
I'm running xfce4 4.10 (yum latest) with the network-manager-applet (also latest) installed. When the disto was first installed, the applet was installed in the #2 panel at the bottom of the screen. I deleted that panel, but the applet did not show up in the #1 panel. So where have I screwed up?

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/05/14 16:28, Sudhir Khanger wrote: yum info `rpm -qa | grep -i virtualbox` It appears to be rpmfusion: [bobg@box10 ~]$ yum info `rpm -qa | grep -i virtualbox` Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit Installed Packages Name: VirtualBox Arch: x86_64 Version : 4.3.

No mount of Android phone

2014-09-05 Thread Frank Elsner
Helo, can somebody explain why my Android phone is not mounted? The relevant lines from /var/loG/messages: Sep 5 22:30:15 pangea kernel: [231733.246914] usb 2-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 24 using ehci-pci Sep 5 22:30:15 pangea kernel: [231733.336930] usb 2-1.1: New USB device found

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
Under normal circumstances yes of course, but at the moment it's just a case of playing with a system that will only have dummy data on it so it doesn't matter if I screw things up. Phil On 5 September 2014 21:22, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/05/2014 01:08 PM, Bat Phil wrote: > >> Best thing then

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
More of clarification than a retraction Paul ;-) but point noted. Sounds like it won't be a problem once I've upgraded the RAM though. Cheers Phil On 5 September 2014 21:20, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 03:31:38PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > 1. I am using older hardwa

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > I'm confused about what version I'm running. The XFCE menu shows Oracle VM > VirtualBox. When I tried to RPM install the kmod/akmod stuff it was already > there. Apparently the Oracle version is what is giving me trouble?

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/05/2014 01:08 PM, Bat Phil wrote: Best thing then is to set up a 2-drive system, put some non-critical data files in the home directories and try it out then. Although presumably, if I do manage to balls up the IDs and block the data, then it's just a case of logging in as root and sorting

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 03:31:38PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > 1. I am using older hardware - AMD Semperon 3000+ (socket 754), which I > > understand is a 64 bit CPU. Will this run better, worse or no differently > > with the 64 bit OS over the 32 bit? > 64 bit. This is mostly because the swit

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
Best thing then is to set up a 2-drive system, put some non-critical data files in the home directories and try it out then. Although presumably, if I do manage to balls up the IDs and block the data, then it's just a case of logging in as root and sorting out permissions?? Cheers Phil On 5 Sep

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/05/2014 12:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Alternately, you can configure /etc/fstab to mount your home directory based on something else, including possibly drive letter (iffy, because that can move around based on the order things are detected) or filesystem label (which could be set to some

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/05/2014 12:31 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: A little bit of tinkering is necessary. You'll need to make sure you use the same numeric user IDs and group IDs -- file ownership is really based on the numbers, and the name is associated by looking in /etc/password. So if the name matches but the n

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
So it's turning out much as I thought then, some of it will be fairly transparent, but It'll still need a bit of tinkering / tweaking. Looking like I'll have to learn about numeric user IDs, group IDs and partition-specific UUIDs though. But learning is a big part of why I'm doing this. Cheers Mat

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:10:58PM +0100, Bat Phil wrote: > 1. I am using older hardware - AMD Semperon 3000+ (socket 754), which I > understand is a 64 bit CPU. Will this run better, worse or no differently > with the 64 bit OS over the 32 bit? 64 bit. This is mostly because the switch also enabl

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Marvin Kosmal
HI I am not on a fedora box right now but, if memory serves me right. All users are kept in /etc/shadow/ and the other file would be /etc/passwd. If you copies those two files over I believe you would be OK.. Someone can second this. I haven't done this in a LONG time. HTH Marvin On Fri,

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/05/14 14:45, Kevin Martin wrote: I gave up on the version from rpmfusion since they are unable to keep up with kernel updates from what I can tell and the akmod would fail to rebuild. I downloaded the version from VirtualBox.org, checked to see what patches I might need for the kernel I

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
Got it Marvin, cheers Phil On 5 September 2014 19:56, Marvin Kosmal wrote: > No .. > > You need to recreate all the users accounts on the new install. > > HTH > > Marvin > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Bat Phil wrote: > >> Thanks for your reply Joe. >> >> I figured (but didn't m

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
Well that's easy then, I can cope with that. Thanks again Joe Phil On 5 September 2014 19:51, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/05/2014 11:46 AM, Bat Phil wrote: > >> I figured (but didn't make it clear) that I'd have to tell anaconda >> about the existing home partition on the second drive. I was wond

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Marvin Kosmal
No .. You need to recreate all the users accounts on the new install. HTH Marvin On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Bat Phil wrote: > Thanks for your reply Joe. > > I figured (but didn't make it clear) that I'd have to tell anaconda about > the existing home partition on the second drive. I

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/05/2014 11:47 AM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: Slightly to the left. How do I configure google mail to let me bottom post? Mostly I use Thunderbird. I do have a gmail account, and when I'm replying to somebody there I simply move the cursor down to the bottom where it belongs. There may be

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/05/2014 11:46 AM, Bat Phil wrote: I figured (but didn't make it clear) that I'd have to tell anaconda about the existing home partition on the second drive. I was wondering more about whether it would then automatically create the pre-existing user accounts and whether all previous e-mails

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Marvin Kosmal
Hi Slightly to the left. How do I configure google mail to let me bottom post? I googled and just found references to grease monkey and that didn't get me anywhere. Thanks Marvin PS Great group On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/05/2014 11:10 AM, Bat Phil wrote: > >

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
Thanks for your reply Joe. I figured (but didn't make it clear) that I'd have to tell anaconda about the existing home partition on the second drive. I was wondering more about whether it would then automatically create the pre-existing user accounts and whether all previous e-mails and settings w

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Kevin Martin
On 09/05/2014 11:06 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > On 09/05/14 11:52, Kevin Martin wrote: >> How did you install VirtualBox (via kmod/akmod or from virtualbox.org)? >> Have you recently updated your kernel? If you've done the >> latter then you'll need to either reboot and let

Re: Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/05/2014 11:10 AM, Bat Phil wrote: 3. Am I correct in my assumption that my mail client (I will be using Thunderbird) stores all its e-mails and settings in a hidden directory within the home directory? ~/.thunderbird to be exact. 4. If I do a reinstall later, will the OS pick up that

Some newbie questions

2014-09-05 Thread Bat Phil
Hello all Please forgive my ignorance, but I've decided to upgrade to Linux. I've had a play with both Ubuntu and Fedora 20 (both with the LXDE desktop) and done a few installs, updates, application installs, etc. and am getting more confident / knowledgeable as I go. I have decided to go for Fed

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Friday, September 05, 2014 05:02:06 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Did you get the package from the Fedora repo or from the VirtualBox.org > repo? You might be talking about RPMFusion version and Virtualbox.org version. Yes, I agree Virtualbox version works better. -- Sudhir Khanger, http:

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/05/2014 11:02 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 10:42 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA > wrote: >> Gosh, I thought I covered all that, Virtual Box as derived via yum >> for >> Fedora-20 64bit, the computer described in the signature at the >> bottom. > > It wasn

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/05/14 11:52, Kevin Martin wrote: How did you install VirtualBox (via kmod/akmod or from virtualbox.org)? Have you recently updated your kernel? If you've done the latter then you'll need to either reboot and let akmod rebuild a VirtualBox kmod or you'll need to reinstall the VirtualBox

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 10:42 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > Gosh, I thought I covered all that, Virtual Box as derived via yum > for > Fedora-20 64bit, the computer described in the signature at the > bottom. It wasn't clear from your OP if your problem is in getting VBox to run

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/05/2014 10:42 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > On 09/05/14 11:11, Fred Smith wrote: >> So, lessee here... >> >> you want to install some Linux into a VM on VirtualBox?? without having >> to "waste" a blank CD/DVD? >> >> easy to do... >> >> in VB, once you've created the VM bu

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Kevin Martin
On 09/05/2014 10:42 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > On 09/05/14 11:11, Fred Smith wrote: >> So, lessee here... >> >> you want to install some Linux into a VM on VirtualBox?? without having >> to "waste" a blank CD/DVD? >> >> easy to do... >> >> in VB, once you've created the VM bu

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/05/14 11:11, Fred Smith wrote: So, lessee here... you want to install some Linux into a VM on VirtualBox?? without having to "waste" a blank CD/DVD? easy to do... in VB, once you've created the VM but before you do the install, select the VM into which you wish to install, click "Settin

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Friday, September 05, 2014 10:42:36 AM Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > On 09/05/14 10:32, Nathan Schwarz wrote: > > A little bit more information about what exactly you try to do would > > really help. > > Are you trying to create a VM with fedora? What OS are you on right now? > > W

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 10:42:36AM -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > On 09/05/14 10:32, Nathan Schwarz wrote: > >A little bit more information about what exactly you try to do would > >really help. > >Are you trying to create a VM with fedora? What OS are you on right now? > >Wh

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 09/05/14 10:32, Nathan Schwarz wrote: A little bit more information about what exactly you try to do would really help. Are you trying to create a VM with fedora? What OS are you on right now? What iso did you download? So many questions... Gosh, I thought I covered all that, Virtual Box

Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Nathan Schwarz
A little bit more information about what exactly you try to do would really help. Are you trying to create a VM with fedora? What OS are you on right now? What iso did you download? So many questions... -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / - against HTML emails X - against proprietory attachment

VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
I would like to avoid burning a DVD, rather install [centos7 in this case] from the .iso downloaded to my HD. Is this not possible? All google wants to do is help me install Windows. I can burn a DVD easily enough but it seems it should not be necessary ... Tnx, Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/

Re: Vmware Workstation not launching

2014-09-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 09/05/14 19:57, Lawrence E Graves wrote: > Has anyone noticed, if you are running vmware workstation 10, that it will > not launch. I have reinstalled and still no results. Welcoming any advise > concerning this issue. Thank you in advance. Have you tried starting it from the command line?

Vmware Workstation not launching

2014-09-05 Thread Lawrence E Graves
Has anyone noticed, if you are running vmware workstation 10, that it will not launch. I have reinstalled and still no results. Welcoming any advise concerning this issue. Thank you in advance. -- All things are workable but don't all things work. Prov. 3:5 & 6 -- users mailing list users@lis