Re: Updated to f20, but can only boot f19.

2014-01-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:00 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Before rebooting, confirm that fedup says it's ready for you to reboot the > system, and then fpaste the fedupdebug.log (or pastebin it). And for that matter if it says you can reboot, go ahead. You should have something like an "System Up

Re: Updated to f20, but can only boot f19.

2014-01-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 21, 2014, at 7:44 PM, William wrote: > > > The url is "pastebin.com/tGhLuhJt" > 1. "Grub2 (v1.99) is installed in the MBR…" Why has this never been updated? I have to go back to Fedora 16 to find a GRUB this old. Since what's in the MBR points to core.img at sector 1, and the firs

Re: IPv6 breakage in NetworkManager

2014-01-21 Thread fedora
Ever checked MTU? I had to go down to 1450 on the workstation On the IPv6 router it is 1480. suomi On 2014-01-22 03:14, Dan Irwin wrote: Hi all, Seeing significant issues with IPv6. After some time, IPv6 completely seems to stop working. IPv4 is unaffected. Re-connecting to wifi seems to re

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 1-21-14 11:37:25 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > So I changed the run time to 11am, and procmail DID drop something into > /var/spool/mail/rgm, but mutt says it is not a valid mailbox. I have > emailed one of my smtp oldtimers for help, but meanwhile here is what is > going into my mail (anyone see an

Re: Updated to f20, but can only boot f19.

2014-01-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/21/2014 06:44 PM, William wrote: And I did "fedup --network 20". Have you run the upgrade yet? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedorapro

Re: Updated to f20, but can only boot f19.

2014-01-21 Thread William
On Jan 20, 2014, at 7:25 PM, William https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users>> wrote: Sorry for the delay in responding; I've been down with a bug. >/ /> >/ Thank-you Chris. I did as suggested. I posted the results in "pastebin.com" under the username "wcmpaste", > and the

IPv6 breakage in NetworkManager

2014-01-21 Thread Dan Irwin
Hi all, Seeing significant issues with IPv6. After some time, IPv6 completely seems to stop working. IPv4 is unaffected. Re-connecting to wifi seems to restore IPv6 connectivity. However, various things (ssh, firefox) stop working completely. Open ssh sessions "freeze". Web page requests time ou

Re: Moderated message...

2014-01-21 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: On 01/21/2014 10:43 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:44:07 -0600 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" wrote: Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/21/2014 03:43 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: (I had plenty of time during the last session; the chair was developing his PAR 'live' on the projector. Bad use of a lot of people's time.) I trust that you use the classic method of deciding who the moderator is for any panel discussion: if y

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
bruce writes: > As I understand it, there's a process/way to use dhclient-scripts to > generate hook functions that can be called, which can then dynamically > update the dns using nsupdate... Just add a routine to do an nsupdate to /sbin/dhclient-script or if you are using NetworkManager add an

Re: Moderated message...

2014-01-21 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On 01/21/2014 04:27 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:49:00 -0600 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" wrote: Dragons, or my signature? Sig, ready made, or good writing skill. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com The inspiration came from a Tolkien quote and a suggestion from another member

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 03:33 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/22/14 07:27, Robert Moskowitz wrote: The following seems to work: # cat /etc/sysconfig/crond # Settings for the CRON daemon. # CRONDARGS= : any extra command-line startup arguments for crond CRONDARGS=-m "/usr/bin/procmail -f cron" This produce

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/22/14 07:27, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > The following seems to work: > > # cat /etc/sysconfig/crond > # Settings for the CRON daemon. > # CRONDARGS= : any extra command-line startup arguments for crond > CRONDARGS=-m "/usr/bin/procmail -f cron" > > This produced a valid mailbox. At least so

Re: font selection for chrome tabs

2014-01-21 Thread Edward M
On 1/21/2014 2:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/22/14 02:14, Edward M wrote: On 1/21/2014 5:34 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Does anyone know how/where the fonts used in Google Chrome tabs are defined These two links may help: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/96810?hl=en h

Re: Naughty question: copy Windows XP under Fedora?

2014-01-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
Frank Murphy wrote: >> It struck me that there is probably a simpler way of doing this under >> Linux, and I was wondering if someone not of a fanatical bent might >> help me. > Clonezilla: http://clonezilla.org/ > It's gui based, not "expert" technical knowledge required to use. I've been looki

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 02:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/22/14 03:37, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I changed the run time to 11am, and procmail DID drop something into /var/spool/mail/rgm, but mutt says it is not a valid mailbox. I have emailed one of my smtp oldtimers for help, but meanwhile here is wh

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/21/2014 02:51 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/21/2014 02:40 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/21/2014 02:29 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: yes. One of my favorite user ids. I have a few others, like 'abba', but I like rgm, as I grew up with it. :) Just to be obscure, do you ever use "emah"

Re: [389-users] Naming conflict on hub/consumer

2014-01-21 Thread Colin Tulloch
I bumped idlistscanlimit from 8000 to 15000. 12000 didn’t quite do it. That entry has 6170 conflicted entries, which basically doubled it. I should’ve known, but I didn’t even realize that entry had any conflicts. Once I got the ldapsearch on the nsds5replConflict attribute working, that expl

Re: font selection for chrome tabs

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/22/14 02:14, Edward M wrote: > On 1/21/2014 5:34 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Does anyone know how/where the fonts used in Google Chrome tabs are defined > > > These two links may help: > > https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/96810?hl=en > > https://support.google.com/chrom

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 02:40 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/21/2014 02:29 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: yes. One of my favorite user ids. I have a few others, like 'abba', but I like rgm, as I grew up with it. :) Just to be obscure, do you ever use "emah" as a user ID? My wife uses 'imma' as one of her

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/21/2014 02:29 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: yes. One of my favorite user ids. I have a few others, like 'abba', but I like rgm, as I grew up with it. :) Just to be obscure, do you ever use "emah" as a user ID? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/22/14 06:23, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I have read the post, but the fact that the result would not be a valid > mailbox escaped me. The line above works. I will have to figure out what to > put in /etc/sysconfig/crond. Meanwhile, I posted this issue to the procmail > list to see if any

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Tony Nelson
On 14-01-21 14:37:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 01/21/2014 08:49 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: ... > > ls -l /var/spool/mail/ > > total 4 > > -rw-rw. 1 rgm mail 663 Jan 21 08:19 rgm > > -rw-rw. 1 rpc mail 0 Jan 6 07:03 rpc ... > From: "(Cron Daemon)" > To: rgm ... Are you logge

Re: Moderated message...

2014-01-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/21/2014 02:22 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: "Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." "Do not meddle in the affairs of BOFHs, for they have the root password and don't need to be subtle." -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 02:21 PM, Tony Nelson wrote: On 14-01-21 14:37:25, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/21/2014 08:49 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: ... ls -l /var/spool/mail/ total 4 -rw-rw. 1 rgm mail 663 Jan 21 08:19 rgm -rw-rw. 1 rpc mail 0 Jan 6 07:03 rpc ... From: "(Cron Daemon)"

Re: Moderated message...

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:49:00 -0600 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" wrote: > Dragons, or my signature? Sig, ready made, or good writing skill. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproj

Re: Moderated message...

2014-01-21 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On 01/21/2014 10:43 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:44:07 -0600 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" wrote: Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Where do you get them! I doubt he knows. Met

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 02:06 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/22/14 03:37, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So I changed the run time to 11am, and procmail DID drop something into /var/spool/mail/rgm, but mutt says it is not a valid mailbox. I have emailed one of my smtp oldtimers for help, but meanwhile here is wh

Re: issue with flash plugin on 1 x86_64 machine

2014-01-21 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:40:06 -0500 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > > > > > But to no avail. One issue is that I can not reinstall/erase because of > > these scriptlet errors which I have been getting for a week. > > > > Any suggesti

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/22/14 03:37, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > So I changed the run time to 11am, and procmail DID drop something into > /var/spool/mail/rgm, but mutt says it is not a valid mailbox. I have emailed > one of my smtp oldtimers for help, but meanwhile here is what is going into > my mail (anyone see

Re: issue with flash plugin on 1 x86_64 machine

2014-01-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > But to no avail. One issue is that I can not reinstall/erase because of > these scriptlet errors which I have been getting for a week. > > Any suggestions as to a possible fix? > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2

Re: issue with flash plugin on 1 x86_64 machine

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 01:06 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hi, I have four machines (3 x86_64's and 1 i386). I installed flash on all 4 using the following: http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/install-adobe-flash-player-10-on-fedora-centos-red-hat-rhel/ For 3 machines, I have had no problems. For 1

Re: f20 - Suspend not working

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
latest failure. On 01/19/2014 10:37 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/19/2014 11:09 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/19/2014 10:35 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:58:02PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/18/2014 08:48 PM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: To suspend

Re: [389-users] using passwd with 389

2014-01-21 Thread Nathan Kinder
On 01/21/2014 12:29 PM, Chaudhari, Rohit K. wrote: > Hello, > > I want to be able to use the Unix "passwd" command to reset a LDAP > user's password from the command line. However, I keep getting an > authentication token manipulation error whenever I try to reset the > password using that comman

issue with flash plugin on 1 x86_64 machine

2014-01-21 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, I have four machines (3 x86_64's and 1 i386). I installed flash on all 4 using the following: http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/install-adobe-flash-player-10-on-fedora-centos-red-hat-rhel/ For 3 machines, I have had no problems. For 1 x86_64 machine, I installed flash today but am u

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:30:06 + > "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > >> "dev let distro" >^^^ > apologies typo Dev (Developer) led distro. > Users don't get to tell devs' what to mail > > That's the truth of it. This list is for Fedor

Re: Moderated message...

2014-01-21 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On 01/21/2014 02:20 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:44:07 -0600 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" wrote: Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Where do you get them! ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com Dragons, or my signature? Mikk

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 08:49 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/21/2014 08:39 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 21.01.2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote: cat d1.letter |procmail You can also re-run existing mails through the whole system, e.g. by piping the mail into "formail -ds | procmail". You can do that in mu

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 20:08:25 +0100 poma wrote: > Aleš, do get what to mail! > Pictures of snowy topped mountains in Spring import Java.Util.* Where's my picture gone. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 19:54, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:30:06 + > "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > >> "dev let distro" >^^^ > apologies typo Dev (Developer) led distro. > Users don't get to tell devs' what to mail > > That's the truth of it. > > ___ > Regards, > Frank > www

Re: I must be missing something.

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 11:56:15 -0600 Aaron Konstam wrote: > I tried to upgrade to f20 by executing : > fedup --network 20 > as root. But when the execution is over he only kernel I have on the > system is the f18 kernel. What have I done wrong? > You mean there is only one kernel on the system, o

Re: GnuCash update problem

2014-01-21 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/21/2014 12:51 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:42:00 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: > >> From yum: >> >> Transaction check error: >> file /usr/share/gnome/help/gnucash-guide from install of >> gnucash-docs-2.6.0-1.fc20.noarch conflicts with file from package >> gnucash-docs

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:30:06 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > "dev let distro" ^^^ apologies typo Dev (Developer) led distro. Users don't get to tell devs' what to mail That's the truth of it. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: GnuCash update problem

2014-01-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:42:00 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: > From yum: > > Transaction check error: > file /usr/share/gnome/help/gnucash-guide from install of > gnucash-docs-2.6.0-1.fc20.noarch conflicts with file from package > gnucash-docs-2.4.2-2.fc20.noarch > file /usr/share/gnome/help/gnuca

GnuCash update problem

2014-01-21 Thread Steven Stern
From yum: Transaction check error: file /usr/share/gnome/help/gnucash-guide from install of gnucash-docs-2.6.0-1.fc20.noarch conflicts with file from package gnucash-docs-2.4.2-2.fc20.noarch file /usr/share/gnome/help/gnucash-help from install of gnucash-docs-2.6.0-1.fc20.noarch conflicts with

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, > and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. Once again, I've no idea what "dev let distro" means or if it has any bearing on the question of cross-posting. I presume it's

Re: font selection for chrome tabs

2014-01-21 Thread Edward M
On 1/21/2014 5:34 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Does anyone know how/where the fonts used in Google Chrome tabs are defined These two links may help: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/96810?hl=en https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95416?hl=en&ref_topic=1678461 -- users

I must be missing something.

2014-01-21 Thread Aaron Konstam
I tried to upgrade to f20 by executing : fedup --network 20 as root. But when the execution is over he only kernel I have on the system is the f18 kernel. What have I done wrong? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedor

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread bruce
and tom what you state/propose only works if the dhcp server/process is configured to accept the propogated returned name from the dhclient.. if the dhcp server is not configured to accept this.. you need to update the dns (local dns) in another manner.. and this is my case.!! i know.. a pa

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:20:37 -0500 bruce wrote: > I asked, how one can go about updating a local dns using nsupdate from > the clients, based on the dhclient updates, or words to that effect.. I know nuthin about nsupdate. I've used dhcp and bind together to provide dynamic DNS, but I did it a lo

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Tom Horsley
> the local system with the dhcp, doesn't have a dns!!! It could. You could run your own DNS server in the lab for the lab systems and have it forward DNS requests to whatever server the lab systems currently use. That way the lab systems see each other's names, and they all see the outside world

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread bruce
tom.. which is what i'm doing! or rather attempting to do tom, sorry for the frustration, but this is exactly what I asked in the very 1st post on this. I asked, how one can go about updating a local dns using nsupdate from the clients, based on the dhclient updates, or words to that effect.

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Mark Bidewell
I think this may be an issue with the Fedora build of dhclient. I can successfully update DNS with dhclient on CentOS6 or Ubuntu, but not Fedora. On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:02 PM, bruce wrote: > kevin. > > the whole/partial reason for all of this. > > the local system with the dhcp, doesn't ha

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread bruce
kevin. the whole/partial reason for all of this. the local system with the dhcp, doesn't have a dns!!! you come in the lab, connect, you get your ip. as to the external world, the dhcp serves the dns for the rest of the world. as to the internal boxes, you get an ip, nothing more!! it wasn't th

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 08:39 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 21.01.2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote: cat d1.letter |procmail You can also re-run existing mails through the whole system, e.g. by piping the mail into "formail -ds | procmail". You can do that in mutt by pressing the "|" and writing the command in

Re: procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 21.01.2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > cat d1.letter |procmail You can also re-run existing mails through the whole system, e.g. by piping the mail into "formail -ds | procmail". You can do that in mutt by pressing the "|" and writing the command in the field which opened up. > So what is mi

Re: Moderated message...

2014-01-21 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:44:07 -0600 "Mikkel L. Ellertson" wrote: Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! Where do you get them! I doubt he knows. Methinks it predates the internet. Unless he is the

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Kevin Martin
On 01/21/2014 10:36 AM, Kevin Martin wrote: > On 01/21/2014 09:54 AM, bruce wrote: >> tim.. >> >> i have complete control over the local dns >> >> the local client machines are given hostnames upon creation/boot up.. >> >> the idea is to be able to have someone within the local network, >> who'[s m

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Kevin Martin
On 01/21/2014 09:54 AM, bruce wrote: > tim.. > > i have complete control over the local dns > > the local client machines are given hostnames upon creation/boot up.. > > the idea is to be able to have someone within the local network, > who'[s machine has been configured to point to the local dn

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 08:15 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:01:07 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: Ok. I tried this, and mailx is no longer complaining. But no mail in /var/spool/mail/rgm and no dead.letter. Mail is now dropping into the abyss, it seems. So this is not an answer. W

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 17:17, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:14:54 +0100 > poma wrote: > >>> Don't ask me I just read the stuff. >> >> Are you the "Others"? :) >> >> > > I learned Java, now Swing is out Java FX is back in. > Can't they leave an old dog with his ways. :) poma -- users

procmail testing

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
From old message: On 12/30/2013 06:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: First of all, let me reiterate one thing. "sendmail" does not do local delivery by itself. It relies on another program to do this. In the default configuration (sendmail.mc) on Fedora it is defined to use procmail for local deli

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 17:10, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 04:06pm on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 (UK time), poma wrote: > >> On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: >> >>> Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, >>> and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. >>> Fedora.next Pri

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:14:54 +0100 poma wrote: > > Don't ask me I just read the stuff. > > Are you the "Others"? :) > > I learned Java, now Swing is out Java FX is back in. Can't they leave an old dog with his ways. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fe

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:01:07 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Ok. I tried this, and mailx is no longer complaining. But no mail > in /var/spool/mail/rgm and no dead.letter. Mail is now dropping into > the abyss, it seems. So this is not an answer. > > What cron did you try to do, in case it

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 08:01 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/21/2014 06:48 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:32:01 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: I kind of thought it was in the code, as I went through all the config files and could not find anything beyond the change I had already mad

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Steve Searle
Around 04:06pm on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 (UK time), poma wrote: > On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, > > and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. > > Fedora.next Primary audience for Fedora will be: > > 1: Devs

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 17:08, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:06:23 +0100 > poma wrote: > >> On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: >> >>> Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, >>> and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. >>> Fedora.next Primary audience for

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:03:00 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Never used gmail. No plans to. > > You don't need gmail, but mail can be forwarded, without MTA, if you have suitable mua-client installed claws-mail, Thunderbirds can both send without mta installed. mailx can with a suitable ~/mai

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 15:57, Ed Greshko wrote: > Totally agree. > > It didn't trouble me in the least that the message was posted to multiple > lists. > > I guess some folks would have been happier if Ales would have sent individual > messages to each of the mailing lists. Yeah I see when someo

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:06:23 +0100 poma wrote: > On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, > > and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. > > Fedora.next Primary audience for Fedora will be: > > 1: Devs > > 2: SysAdmins >

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread poma
On 21.01.2014 15:57, Frank Murphy wrote: > Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, > and in the main Devs will get all the support they need. > Fedora.next Primary audience for Fedora will be: > 1: Devs > 2: SysAdmins > 3: Others WTF are "Others"!? True priority list: 1. Users 2.

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 06:48 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:32:01 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: I kind of thought it was in the code, as I went through all the config files and could not find anything beyond the change I had already made to /etc/sysconfig/crond CRONDARGS=-m "/usr/bin/

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 07:01 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:56:42 -0600 Chris Adams wrote: eing an MTA) is overkill. "Default-no-MTA" was never intended to be "replace all possible use cases with no MTA". You want mail in files, so use an MTA. You can just mailx to gmail, get your fi

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread bruce
tim.. i have complete control over the local dns the local client machines are given hostnames upon creation/boot up.. the idea is to be able to have someone within the local network, who'[s machine has been configured to point to the local dns, to be able to use the boxname "foo" to get to the

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 21 January 2014, bruce sent: > some of us who deall with getting dhcp ipp addresses, don't have > access to managing the dhcp server!!! And you have access to a DNS server that you can reprogram?? If so, then have a look at the already existing coding for the DHCP servers,

Re: [389-users] Replication error

2014-01-21 Thread Nathan Kinder
On 01/21/2014 05:16 AM, Diego Woitasen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Diego Woitasen wrote: >> Hi, >> I have a replication error with 389DS. If I try a full resync, >> replication works. But if I modify something after that, it fails. The >> only lines that I see in the logs are: >> >>

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:46:06 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > Oh I see. If I'm not looking for help then I can just ignore the > Guidelines and do what I want. That just makes so much sense. > > poc Forgot the most compelling piece of my argument: This is the sig from @test. @ devel is si

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:56:42 -0600 Chris Adams wrote: eing an MTA) is overkill. > > "Default-no-MTA" was never intended to be "replace all possible use > cases with no MTA". You want mail in files, so use an MTA. > You can just mailx to gmail, get your fix that way. No MTA required. ___ Regard

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:55:46 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > fails on no /usr/bin/sendmail. It would probably get in an infinite > loop. > It just checks for /usr/bin/sendmail which it will now be tricked into finding. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lis

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 06:48 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:27:50 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: ad by my claws-mail as numbered plaintext. I tried 'mutt -f dead.letter' and mutt said that dead.letter was note a mailbox. mailx will keep appending to dead.letter and it can grow massive,

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ed Greshko said: > FWIW, having an MTA running but doing nothing other than delivering mail for > cron and other system utils doesn't utilize system resources. Getting around > installing an MTA may be more trouble than it is worth. Yeah, if you just have to have cron output

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 06:48 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:32:01 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: I kind of thought it was in the code, as I went through all the config files and could not find anything beyond the change I had already made to /etc/sysconfig/crond CRONDARGS=-m "/usr/bin/

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/14 22:49, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 21 January 2014 10:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Is there some specific reason this needs to be cross-posted to three >> different lists (none of which is the Testing list)? Presumably those >> using dnf will get the update anyway. > It seems to me

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:46:06 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > Oh I see. If I'm not looking for help then I can just ignore the > Guidelines and do what I want. That just makes so much sense. > > poc Whether agreed with or not Fedora is a Dev let distro, and in the main Devs will get all the

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > >> I'd say that was a rather creative interpretation. There's no wording >> in the Guideline to support that position. See >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Do_not_Cross_Post >> (it's only

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/21/14 22:34, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > Something is complaining. I do have: > > CRONDARGS=-m "/usr/bin/mailx -t" > > But we see from the test of trying to use the dead.letter file that mailx > itself is using sendmail. So you fix one problem and cause another. I think it is pretty much

Simple substitute for sendmail for cron to use

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
So in keeping with MTA is dead for non-server platforms, I propose the following to allow for local cron output delivery. Note if the user wants remote delivery, an MTA MUST be installed. So basically this script needs to take the output of the cron job and prepend it to the /var/spool/mail/u

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Richard Hughes
On 21 January 2014 10:07, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Is there some specific reason this needs to be cross-posted to three > different lists (none of which is the Testing list)? Presumably those > using dnf will get the update anyway. It seems to me, Ales is damned if he does publicize the relea

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:27:50 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: ad by my claws-mail as numbered plaintext. > > I tried 'mutt -f dead.letter' and mutt said that dead.letter was note > a mailbox. > > > mailx will keep appending to dead.letter and it can grow massive, I have tested it as far as 8.34GB

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 06:32:01 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I kind of thought it was in the code, as I went through all the > config files and could not find anything beyond the change I had > already made to /etc/sysconfig/crond > > CRONDARGS=-m "/usr/bin/mailx -t" At the moment cronie seem t

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:22:05 + "Patrick O'Callaghan" wrote: > I'd say that was a rather creative interpretation. There's no wording > in the Guideline to support that position. See > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Do_not_Cross_Post > (it's only a few lines and says noth

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 06:00 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:54:10 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: mail's queue. But, in my limited testing, using procmail would not require sendmail. No, it's inbuilt into cronie, if /usr/bin/sendmail is not there cron mails fails. man crond: The syslog outpu

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 05:54 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/21/14 21:43, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:16:19 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: using mailx to supposedly mail to myself with no sendmail. cron is failing in the mailing and the message ends in dead.letter. This is why: from croni

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 05:43 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:16:19 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: using mailx to supposedly mail to myself with no sendmail. cron is failing in the mailing and the message ends in dead.letter. This is why: from cronie runjob.c /* Check that we have a

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread bruce
um.. tim... (and others!!) some of us who deall with getting dhcp ipp addresses, don't have access to managing the dhcp server!!! that's the situation here. which is exactly what i typed!! thanks On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 21 January 2014, bruce sent:

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 12:19 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:47:03 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: So it seems mailx cannot work even locally without sendmail, unlike what another poster here stated. Yes, I was able to (always testing stuff) Using claws mail at the time. The easiest and

Re: mailx help

2014-01-21 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/21/2014 01:26 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:16:19 -0800 Robert Moskowitz wrote: using mailx to supposedly mail to myself with no sendmail. cron is failing in the mailing and the message ends in dead.letter. What does "systemctl status crond.service -l" say crond.se

Re: dns/dhcp client - hooks??

2014-01-21 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 21 January 2014, bruce sent: > Trying to test/figure out if there's a way to update local dns > zones/data with the data from the dhclient. (Don't have control of the > dhcp server process)!! > > As I understand it, there's a process/way to use dhclient-scripts to > generate

Re: dnf-0.4.12

2014-01-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Those guidelines are there, to me, after reading them to prevent > @users cross-posting to @devel & @test with "How do I.." questions > Not to prevent devs posting to where they feel appropriate. I'd say that was a rather creative interpretat

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