Re: F20 and nvidia

2014-01-19 Thread Raf Roger
my goal was to use akmod-nvidia but since it failed i had no other choice than applying direct driver from nvidia. I know that it will generate some issue later on, but i hope till this time that issue with akmod will be fixed. On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: > On 19 January

Re: F20 and nvidia

2014-01-19 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 19 January 2014 20:22, Raf Roger wrote: > Hi everybody, > > so for those who have a problem to make their nvidia card work under F20, > i used the following tutorial and it worked for my Nvidia Gainward GTX 660 > http://www.tecmint.com/install-nvidia-drivers-in-linux/ > > > > Note that the nvi

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Richard Vickery
| From: "Joe Zeff" | To: "Community support for Fedora users" | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 21:42:41 | Subject: Re: email failure | | On 01/19/2014 09:35 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: | > | From: "Joe Zeff" | > | To: "Community support for Fedora users" | > | | > | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 20

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/19/2014 09:35 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: | From: "Joe Zeff" | To: "Community support for Fedora users" | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 21:27:38 | Subject: Re: email failure | | On 01/19/2014 09:03 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: | > This doesn't do much to address his abuse of my projects | |

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Richard Vickery
| From: "Joe Zeff" | To: "Community support for Fedora users" | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 21:27:38 | Subject: Re: email failure | | On 01/19/2014 09:03 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: | > This doesn't do much to address his abuse of my projects | | Which is why I requested that we stop discussi

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/19/2014 09:03 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: This doesn't do much to address his abuse of my projects Which is why I requested that we stop discussing it here. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Richard Vickery
From: "Joe Zeff" | To: "Community support for Fedora users" | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 20:55:23 | Subject: Re: email failure | | On 01/19/2014 07:25 PM, David wrote: | > My point? I supported the troupes. | | And my 'Nam vet friends and I both thank you; most of the anti-war | movement d

How is wireless signal strength for NetworkManager calculated

2014-01-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, I was wondering how wireless signal strength (as displayed by the network-manager applet) is calculated. There is a percentage reported: what does this percent mean and where does NetworkManager get its values from? While I am here, I also wanted to know the answer to the question as to how

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/19/2014 07:25 PM, David wrote: My point? I supported the troupes. And my 'Nam vet friends and I both thank you; most of the anti-war movement didn't. I'm not going to argue with you over which, if any of our wars have been right and which wrong, because this isn't the right place, but

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Richard Vickery
| From: "David" | To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 19:25:59 | Subject: Re: email failure | | On 1/19/2014 10:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: | > On 01/19/2014 06:05 PM, David wrote: | >> Last comment and I am gone Punk. I was involved at Kent State when | >> the | >> trou

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread David
On 1/19/2014 10:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/19/2014 06:05 PM, David wrote: >> Last comment and I am gone Punk. I was involved at Kent State when the >> troupes murdered the students. I was at Chicago when the police beat the >> crap out of us with night sticks protesting Vietnam. > > And I was

Re: What new security "feature" is screwing me up now?

2014-01-19 Thread John Wendel
On 01/19/2014 06:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:16:41 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: It is almost like nohup isn't preventing hup and it is dying in the sleep command before it starts RH. Gaaah! Well, this turns out to be just totally obvious. All I need to do is put this line in t

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/19/2014 06:05 PM, David wrote: Last comment and I am gone Punk. I was involved at Kent State when the troupes murdered the students. I was at Chicago when the police beat the crap out of us with night sticks protesting Vietnam. And I was in Tonkin Gulf during the Easter Offensive in '72,

Re: What new security "feature" is screwing me up now?

2014-01-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:16:41 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > It is almost like nohup isn't preventing hup and it > is dying in the sleep command before it starts RH. Gaaah! Well, this turns out to be just totally obvious. All I need to do is put this line in the script I background from the udev scrip

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Richard Vickery
Richard - Original Message - | From: "Richard Vickery" | To: "Community support for Fedora users" | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 18:14:39 | Subject: Re: email failure | | | From: "David" | | To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org | | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 18:05:03 | | Subject:

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread g
On 01/19/2014 07:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: <> IOW it *was* in plaintext. It did however also have a "Rich Text" alternative part, which presumably is what violates the Guidelines if you look up from bottom, you will also see that it has; }> --e89a8f646f8f93fa7504f051c062 }> Conten

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Richard Vickery
| From: "David" | To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 18:05:03 | Subject: Re: email failure | | On 1/19/2014 8:36 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: | > | From: "David" | > | To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org | > | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 13:55:38 | > | Subject: Re:

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread David
On 1/19/2014 8:36 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > | From: "David" > | To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 13:55:38 > | Subject: Re: email failure > | > | On 1/19/2014 4:30 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > | > | From: "David" > | > | > | > | When I was young as you appe

Where does anacron config sendmail?

2014-01-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Still working on cron without sendmail. I am learning some as I peel the onion. The latest error message is: Jan 19 16:21:23 lx120e.htt-consult.com run-parts[22838]: (/etc/cron.daily) finished prelink Jan 19 16:21:23 lx120e.htt-consult.com anacron[10446]: Job `cron.daily' terminated (mailing

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Richard Vickery
| From: "David" | To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 13:55:38 | Subject: Re: email failure | | On 1/19/2014 4:30 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: | > | From: "David" | > | | > | When I was young as you appear to be I too was a libertarian. | > | Then I | > | graduated,

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > It's the Gmail trap; even though it seems like plain text, it is not. > You have to explicitly choose plain text (lower right of the compose > window I think). Once you do, then it becomes obvious that it was not > plain text before. > > Hope

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On 01/19/2014 01:57 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: A citizen does not, nor ought need to, pay anyone for the rights of the office of citizenship. Slavery is an abolished practice, yet your advertiser has just stated in this quote that slavery is alive and well. Is it not time to rethink this? Trea

Re: Install problem

2014-01-19 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On 01/19/2014 03:37 PM, Doug wrote: Trying to install Fedora 32 KDE on second hard drive. This drive has been partitioned with /dev/sdb1 formatted as NTFS, and /dev/sdb5 and /dev/sdb6 formatted as ext4. The Fedora install disk says there is only 2.77MB available on the disk. What gives, and ho

Re: f20 - Suspend not working

2014-01-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/19/2014 11:09 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/19/2014 10:35 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:58:02PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/18/2014 08:48 PM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: To suspend try "systemctl suspend" Is this different than "sudo pm-suspend"?

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread poma
On 20.01.2014 00:11, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > I suspected that. I've had enough for today, dinner time here. Tomorrow > is another day for playing with computers. 1. Start point - Xfce session Open the 'xfce4-terminal', log in as root and run this command: # yum install x

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 18:03, Joe Zeff wrote: Is it working properly? No. One of the programs listed by ps was grep, looking for lightdm. Here's what you'd see if you had it running, as I do: I suspected that. I've had enough for today, dinner time here. Tomorrow is another day for playing with co

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/19/2014 02:49 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Still does not show lightdm? But ps does? [bobg@box10 ~]$ ps aux | grep lightdm bobg 3487 0.0 0.0 112664 900 pts/0S+ 17:45 0:00 grep --color=auto lightdm Is it working properly? No. One of the programs listed

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 16:48, poma wrote: On 19.01.2014 22:34, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: This is all I get. How do I get lightdm to run? [bobg@box10 ~]$ loginctl SESSIONUID USER SEAT 1 1000 bobg seat0 # systemctl isolate multi-user.t

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread poma
On 19.01.2014 22:31, Joe Zeff wrote: > ps aux | grep lightdm > > If you get more than one line of output (showing grep) it's running. $ ps axu | grep [l]ightdm to exclude a grep-ish output. ;) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription o

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread David
On 1/19/2014 4:30 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > | From: "David" > | > | When I was young as you appear to be I too was a libertarian. Then I > | graduated, grew up, and realized just how the real world really > | works. > | > | > | -- > | > | David > > I'm sorry David, that you have neither

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/19/2014 01:38 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 19/01/14 16:31, Joe Zeff wrote: ps aux | grep lightdm [bobg@box10 ~]$ ps aux | grep lightdm bobg 4582 0.0 0.0 112664 900 pts/0S+ 16:35 0:00 grep --color=auto lightdm I guess it is running but did not show u

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread poma
On 19.01.2014 22:34, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > This is all I get. How do I get lightdm to run? > > [bobg@box10 ~]$ loginctl > SESSIONUID USER SEAT > 1 1000 bobg seat0 # systemctl isolate multi-user.target # ln -sf /usr/lib/sy

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 16:31, Joe Zeff wrote: ps aux | grep lightdm [bobg@box10 ~]$ ps aux | grep lightdm bobg 4582 0.0 0.0 112664 900 pts/0S+ 16:35 0:00 grep --color=auto lightdm I guess it is running but did not show up with loginctl? I'm getting in over my head ... -- http://ww

Install problem

2014-01-19 Thread Doug
Trying to install Fedora 32 KDE on second hard drive. This drive has been partitioned with /dev/sdb1 formatted as NTFS, and /dev/sdb5 and /dev/sdb6 formatted as ext4. The Fedora install disk says there is only 2.77MB available on the disk. What gives, and how do I fix it? After mounting the d

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 16:29, poma wrote: On 19.01.2014 22:22, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: How do I determine if lightdm is running? It appears to be installed ... $ loginctl SESSIONUID USER SEAT c1986 lightdm seat0 2 1000 p

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/19/2014 01:22 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 19/01/14 14:32, poma wrote: LightDM/Xfce? Save the file '50-org.freedesktop.login1.power-off-multiple-sessions.rules' in the attachment to a dir '/etc/polkit-1/rules.d'. Create a group 'poweroff' # groupadd yumex Add your us

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Richard Vickery
| From: "David" | | When I was young as you appear to be I too was a libertarian. Then I | graduated, grew up, and realized just how the real world really | works. | | | -- | | David I'm sorry David, that you have neither heard of either courts, or mass demonstrations. If you want to conti

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread poma
On 19.01.2014 22:22, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > How do I determine if lightdm is running? > > It appears to be installed ... $ loginctl SESSIONUID USER SEAT c1986 lightdm seat0 2 1000 poma seat0 2 session

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 14:32, poma wrote: LightDM/Xfce? Save the file '50-org.freedesktop.login1.power-off-multiple-sessions.rules' in the attachment to a dir '/etc/polkit-1/rules.d'. Create a group 'poweroff' # groupadd yumex Add your username to this group # gpasswd -a poweroff Re-log-in. How do I

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread poma
On 19.01.2014 21:04, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > [bobg@box10 ~]$ w > 14:32:04 up 37 min, 3 users, load average: 0.14, 0.13, 0.13 > USER TTYLOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT > bobg tty1 13:55 30:28 0.12s 0.01s xinit /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc > bobg pts/0

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread David
On 1/19/2014 2:57 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > | From: "Tim" > | To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 01:13:38 > | Subject: Re: email failure > | > | Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2014, Richard Vickery sent: > | > I recently quit Gmail because I got sick of tha

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread doug
On 01/19/2014 09:16 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/19/2014 09:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this requirement. I am the sole user of th

Re: f20 - difference between i386 and x86_64 distros

2014-01-19 Thread doug
On 01/18/2014 11:13 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: As I have mentioned, my x86_64 install on my Lenovo is a bit of a hack. Hopefully things will be better for f21, but meanwhile... I am continuing to have problems. Most recently, Gnome keeps crashing even without suspend attempts. S, I DO

What new security "feature" is screwing me up now?

2014-01-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On fedora 19, the UDEV scripts I have described here work perfectly: http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/hardware/solidoodle/solidoodle-udev.html On fedora 20, my user script that sets DISPLAY and starts /usr/bin/RepetierHost doesn't start RepetierHost, but other side effects of that script do ha

how to install skype on F20

2014-01-19 Thread Raf Roger
Hi, i followed the tutorial available on http://edmondscommerce.github.io/Fedora/getting-skype-working-on-fedora-20.htmlto install skype on F20. however, when i launch skype it crashes all the time... version: skype-4.2.0.11-fc16 reported: can not be reported any idea what could the the problem

Re: irq 16 nobody cared (try booting with irqpoll option)

2014-01-19 Thread Edward M
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:25:14 + Frank Murphy wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:20:20 -0800 > Edward M wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Periodically, when i first boot my fedora system it hangs on this > > message: > > > > [0.771697] irq 16: nobody cared (try booting with the irqpoll > > opti

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 14:14, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:11:01 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: My interest in correcting this is waning, I have other stuff I can do to amuse myself this afternoon. Thanks much for your patience, Bob No problem: Another test open a ter

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Richard Vickery
| From: "Tim" | To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org | Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2014 01:13:38 | Subject: Re: email failure | | Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2014, Richard Vickery sent: | > I recently quit Gmail because I got sick of that they read your | > email | > AND they treat users as prod

Re: Password for a mate hibernate -

2014-01-19 Thread poma
:) poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

Re: Password for suspend -

2014-01-19 Thread poma
Answer to The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything. :) LightDM/Xfce? Save the file '50-org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate-multiple-sessions.rules' in the attachment to a dir '/etc/polkit-1/rules.d'. Create a group 'hibernate' # groupadd hibernate Add your username to this grou

Re: Password for suspend -

2014-01-19 Thread poma
Also do not recommend tanning in the desert at noon. :) LightDM/Xfce? Save the file '50-org.freedesktop.login1.suspend-multiple-sessions.rules' in the attachment to a dir '/etc/polkit-1/rules.d'. Create a group 'suspend' # groupadd suspend Add your username to this group # gpasswd -a suspend

Re: Password for reboot -

2014-01-19 Thread poma
Notice a mistake in the previous post. :) I suggest tomorrow morning with a cup of hot black coffee. LightDM/Xfce? Save the file '50-org.freedesktop.login1.reboot-multiple-sessions.rules' in the attachment to a dir '/etc/polkit-1/rules.d'. Create a group 'reboot' # groupadd reboot Add your use

Re: f20 - difference between i386 and x86_64 distros

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 23:13:26 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > As I have mentioned, my x86_64 install on my Lenovo is a bit of a > hack. Hopefully things will be better for f21, but meanwhile... > > I am continuing to have problems. Most recently, Gnome keeps > crashing even without suspend attem

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread poma
On 19.01.2014 15:07, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've > used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this > requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and see it as an > annoyance, more so

Re: f20 - difference between i386 and x86_64 distros

2014-01-19 Thread Richard Vickery
| From: "Robert Moskowitz" | To: "Community support for Fedora users" | Sent: Saturday, 18 January, 2014 20:13:26 | Subject: f20 - difference between i386 and x86_64 distros | | As I have mentioned, my x86_64 install on my Lenovo is a bit of a | hack. | Hopefully things will be better for f21, b

Re: irq 16 nobody cared (try booting with irqpoll option)

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:20:20 -0800 Edward M wrote: > Hello, > > > Periodically, when i first boot my fedora system it hangs on this > message: > > [0.771697] irq 16: nobody cared (try booting with the irqpoll option) > [0.771823] handlers: > [0.771838] [] usb_hcd_irq > [0.771859] Disabling IRQ

irq 16 nobody cared (try booting with irqpoll option)

2014-01-19 Thread Edward M
Hello, Periodically, when i first boot my fedora system it hangs on this message: [0.771697] irq 16: nobody cared (try booting with the irqpoll option) [0.771823] handlers: [0.771838] [] usb_hcd_irq [0.771859] Disabling IRQ #16 i need to reset system to get fedora boot now i would like to try

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:11:01 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > My interest in correcting this is waning, I have other stuff I can do > to amuse myself this afternoon. > > Thanks much for your patience, > > Bob > No problem: Another test open a terminal type in "w". it will te

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 13:45, Frank Murphy wrote: between *** is the one line for me for these twon lines line 1 *** if (action.id == "org.freedesktop.login1.power-off-multiple-sessions" || *** line 2 *** action.id == "org.freedesktop.login1.reboot-multiple-sessions") { *** ___ Regards, Frank www.frankl

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:39:10 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/00-no-reboot-password.rules > > /* Allow shutdown when others are logged in */ > polkit.addRule(function(action, subject) { > if (action.id == > "org.freedesktop.login1.power-off-multiple

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 13:31, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:12:00 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: I believe the permissions are ok too? It only needs to be read? Bob -rw--r--r--. 1 root root 285 Sep 4 17:04 /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/00-no-reboot-password.rules You may n

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:12:00 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > I believe the permissions are ok too? It only needs to be read? > > Bob > > > -rw--r--r--. 1 root root 285 Sep 4 17:04 /etc/polkit-1/rules.d/00-no-reboot-password.rules You may need to reload polkit or reboot f

Re: RPM scriptlets failing during updates

2014-01-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi Rahul, > > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:45:54PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs#RPM_scriptlets_fail_during_updates > > The entry ends with this note: > > ... and use yum history redo

Re: F20 and nvidia

2014-01-19 Thread Raf Roger
Hi everybody, so for those who have a problem to make their nvidia card work under F20, i used the following tutorial and it worked for my Nvidia Gainward GTX 660 http://www.tecmint.com/install-nvidia-drivers-in-linux/ On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Raf Roger wrote: > Hi > > i'm installing

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 12:49, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:42:59 -0600 g wrote: another thought, are you trying to run 'shutdown' from a terminal or is it within xfce? if while in xfce, could be way xfce is working. It is a known random problem, not everyone will get it. Been there don

Re: /tmp on it's own hd/part F20

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:56:54 +0100 Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > Why do you want /tmp on hard drive partition? Low ram, and it's causing problems on this old box. And I don't use ssd, only for /boot ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: /tmp on it's own hd/part F20

2014-01-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 19.01.2014 11:05, Frank Murphy wrote: > Probably be rebuilding a box, > What would be a large enough partition for /tmp > on it own hD/partition. > 80gb is the smallest sata I have. > luks required on /tmp? > > with "systemctl mask tmp.mount" > going to be set after 1st login. > > Any gotchas

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:42:59 -0600 g wrote: > another thought, are you trying to run 'shutdown' from a terminal > or is it within xfce? > > if while in xfce, could be way xfce is working. > It is a known random problem, not everyone will get it. Been there done that. Also on Xfce. ___ Regard

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread g
On 01/19/2014 11:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 19/01/14 11:56, g wrote: [bobg@box10 ~]$ ll /sbin/shutdown lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Dec 18 12:01 /sbin/shutdown -> ../bin/systemctl interesting. it is 'world' writeable. what does /bin/systemctl look like? g [bobg@box

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:11:08 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > [bobg@box10 ~]$ locate ConsoleKit > > [bobg@box10 ~]$ locate *onsoleKit* > > Apparently not? > That's good, it can also cause problems, and no longer required as systemd took over most of the duties. ___ Regards

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 11:56, Frank Murphy wrote: By any chance do you have ConsoleKit installed? ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com [bobg@box10 ~]$ ConsoleKit bash: ConsoleKit: command not found [bobg@box10 ~]$ locate ConsoleKit [bobg@box10 ~]$ locate *onsoleKit* Apparently not? -- http://www.qrz

Re: RPM scriptlets failing during updates

2014-01-19 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Rahul, On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:45:54PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F20_bugs#RPM_scriptlets_fail_during_updates The entry ends with this note: ... and use yum history redo to reinstall the packages. This is inaccurate. The above prescripti

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 11:56, g wrote: [bobg@box10 ~]$ ll /sbin/shutdown lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Dec 18 12:01 /sbin/shutdown -> ../bin/systemctl interesting. it is 'world' writeable. what does /bin/systemctl look like? g [bobg@box10 ~]$ ll /bin/systemctl -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 357760 Dec 5 17:

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread g
On 01/19/2014 10:42 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: <> [bobg@box10 ~]$ ll /sbin/shutdown lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Dec 18 12:01 /sbin/shutdown -> ../bin/systemctl interesting. it is 'world' writeable. what does /bin/systemctl look like? -- peace out. in a world with out fenc

Re: Ouch! X2Go needs a couch!

2014-01-19 Thread poma
On 19.01.2014 03:27, Garry T. Williams wrote: > On 1-17-14 21:03:39 poma wrote: >>> # setenforce 0 >>> # >>> # setenforce 1 >> >> I think I don't remember that I ever had to do it. >> This nullifies the very purpose of the SELinux. > > The problem was caused by a bad SELinux policy that blocks rp

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:07:14 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > > Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, > I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had > this requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and see it as > an anno

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 11:39, Greg Woods wrote: Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. My F19 also does this, but only if I have logged in on one of the consoles (e.g. CTRL-ALT-F2) as well as through the GUI. Then I get some verbiage about password being required when other users are logged in. But it

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 11:18, g wrote: hi bob, On 01/19/2014 08:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Greg Woods
On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 09:07 -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. My F19 also does this, but only if I have logged in on one of the consoles (e.g. CTRL-ALT-F2) as well as through the GUI. Then I get some verbiage about password being required

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread g
hi bob, On 01/19/2014 08:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and see it as an annoyance, more s

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:00:40 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > Ok Frank, I'll save that for use if nothing better comes along ... > > Thank you, > > Bob > It only ever happened to one of my boxes. The others were fine. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users maili

Re: f20 - Suspend not working

2014-01-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/19/2014 10:35 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:58:02PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/18/2014 08:48 PM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: To suspend try "systemctl suspend" Is this different than "sudo pm-suspend"? Certainly so, although it may not cure your prob

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:07:14 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: found one from the users list. but the problems started going back as far as 2012 in bz's https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-September/440457.html ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com Foud one f

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 10:54, Frank Murphy wrote: That was the solution that was given when in happened to some of us, when F20 was still rawhide. Check the test-list archives for maybe 12-18mths back. ___ Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com Ok Frank, I'll save that for use if nothing better comes along .

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 10:50:57 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > > > I could try that [I'm afraid line-wrap may have caused problems] but > why would I have to add anything to a system that I think ought to > "just work?" > > This has not been a problem in the past and I see no o

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 10:37, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:07:14 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this requirement. I am the sole user of thi

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:07:14 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > > Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, > I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had > this requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and see it as > an anno

Re: f20 - Suspend not working

2014-01-19 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:58:02PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 01/18/2014 08:48 PM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: > >To suspend try "systemctl suspend" > > Is this different than "sudo pm-suspend"? Certainly so, although it may not cure your problem. > Doesn't "systemctl" have to be run as

Re: [389-users] non-unique UID

2014-01-19 Thread Paul Robert Marino
its possible most LDAP servers don't put a unique constraint on that field. in fact it's occasionally done intentionally in LDAP servers that handle multiple OU's where hosts are only expected to look at one of them. The problem is it messes up your systems permissions if you have overlaps. On Thu

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 10:06:12 -0500 "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" wrote: > > On 19/01/14 10:01, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > > > Does the command > > > > poweroff > > > > also require a password now? I only reboot (or hibernate also, for my > > laptop) so I have not done either for

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 10:01, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hi Bob, Does the command poweroff also require a password now? I only reboot (or hibernate also, for my laptop) so I have not done either for a long long time. Ranjan [bobg@box10 ~]$ poweroff Failed to issue method call: Did not receive a reply. Pos

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/19/2014 09:57 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: On 19/01/14 09:16, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/19/2014 09:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:16:31 -0500 "Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." wrote: > On 01/19/2014 09:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > > > > Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've > > used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this > > requirem

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread David
On 1/19/2014 8:45 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:16:40PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Tim wrote: >> >>> Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: In particular, you should avoid top-posting a

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 19/01/14 09:16, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/19/2014 09:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this requirement. I am the sole user of this c

Re: Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/19/2014 09:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and see it as an annoyance, more so when

Password for shutdown -

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
Fedora 20 requires a password to shutdown. This is something new, I've used Redhat and/or Fedora Linux for a long time and never had this requirement. I am the sole user of this computer and see it as an annoyance, more so when rebooting than for shutting down at night. How do I fix this? B

Re: Finding neighbours on my LAN

2014-01-19 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Matthew, On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:15:40AM +, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 00:32 +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 09:12:14PM +, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > > > > I think that's actually no longer a serious issue, as NetworkManager now > >

Re: email failure

2014-01-19 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Patrick, On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:16:40PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Tim wrote: > > > Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > > > In particular, you should avoid top-posting and posting in HTML. > > > > Are you going to f

Re: serious scriptlet problems with today's updates

2014-01-19 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/17/2014 11:46 AM, Mark Haney wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 1/17/2014 10:55 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Mark Haney wrote: My question is, WTF happened? My system is pretty clean. I never install packages by hand, only by either the st

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