Re: "passwd" by root for user fails with sssd,pam, ldap [SOLVED]

2013-07-23 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/23/2013 01:54 PM, Augustin Wolf wrote: I agree. The only acceptable solution would be one way hash, but this wouldn't be much help, unless OpenLdap supports it. If the system stored a one-way hash of a "password," and that hash were usable as an authentication token, then the one-way has

Was Mate desktop, ten caja instances. Now Nouveau

2013-07-23 Thread Roger
After that I tried to upgrade from nouveau to NVIDIA drivers. Why? I have used the nouveau drivers since Fedora 16 they work very well and it saved me a lot of heartache and time. I use mate on one system, Gnome on another and cinnamon on the desktop. I do graphic intensive work and developm

Re: unstable libreoffice

2013-07-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/23/2013 07:13 PM, lee wrote: I haven't attacked anyone in this thread. If you think otherwise, feel free to show whom I attacked when with what. We can then start a big discussion about it, it'll be fun. -1 Flamebait -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Mate desktop, login produces up to ten caja instances

2013-07-23 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 07/19/2013 07:32 PM, Fred Smith wrote: > On F19 with Mate desktop, sometimes after login 8 or 9 or even 10 copies > of Caja (Mate File Manger) are started up. Fred, I upgraded a test F17 system to F18 using fedora-upgrade, and it seemed successful. The next thing I did was to install M

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread David G . Miller
Rick Stevens alldigital.com> writes: > > On 07/23/2013 02:02 PM, Darryl L. Pierce issued this missive: > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:52:06PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> Am 23.07.2013 22:39, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: > >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 04:35:44PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >

Re: unstable libreoffice

2013-07-23 Thread lee
Joe Zeff writes: > On 07/23/2013 04:14 AM, lee wrote: >> The OP posted here. You can post on their list any time; I already did. >> The list was difficult to get rid of because they didn't even manage to >> get unsubscribing to work. Just look at all the top posters and the >> HTML junk in that

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread lee
Dave Stevens writes: > Quoting Richard Shaw : > >> My original intent in reviving this thread was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. >> Obviously that's not what happened so for that I apologize. I should have >> foreseen that this would happen but I did not. >> >> Unless there is a possibility that th

Re: OpenVPN disapeared

2013-07-23 Thread Bill Oliver
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013, Timothy Murphy wrote: Bill Oliver wrote: As a matter of interest, what is the point of NetworkManager-openvpn? I'm running NetworkManager under Fedora-19/KDE on my laptop, and I'm also running OpenVPN. Both seem to be working fine, so what is the point of installing Netw

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Bill Oliver
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Eric Viseur Yes, this is kindergarden.  I'm leaving this mailing-list.  Too bad for the precious knowledge I'll miss.  Gonna use the forums instead. You can ignore threads in any mailing list and fwiw, forums

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Dave Stevens
Quoting Richard Shaw : My original intent in reviving this thread was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. Obviously that's not what happened so for that I apologize. I should have foreseen that this would happen but I did not. Unless there is a possibility that this will result in some sort of resolut

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Richard Shaw
My original intent in reviving this thread was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. Obviously that's not what happened so for that I apologize. I should have foreseen that this would happen but I did not. Unless there is a possibility that this will result in some sort of resolution (which seems unlikely)

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:07:20PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 23.07.2013 23:02, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: > > I'm sorry, the quoting format is the default for Mutt and has been > > around for a long time. Surely you've seen it for literally YEARS > > online. > > with rotten style i mea

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:02:08PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 23.07.2013 22:52, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: > > How is telling someone you won't be helping them in future "a straight, > > clear answer"? > > *boah* you did not quote the context as well as Richard > did not say any word that he

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread inode0
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:36 PM, inode0 wrote: >> >> >> >> The victims are all the members of this list who don't want to >> constantly be exposed to all this drama. The facts are in this case >> Harald did nothing wrong at all. >

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread David
On 7/23/2013 7:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:36 PM, inode0 wrote: > > > > The victims are all the members of this list who don't want to > constantly be exposed to all this drama. The facts are in this case > Harald did nothing wrong at all. > >

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/23/2013 04:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:36 PM, inode0 wrote: If we want the list to improve we need to stop twisting knives in old wounds and let the injuries heal. Or we need more aggressive moderation to stop all the agitating. Good luck with that

Re: OpenVPN disapeared

2013-07-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/24/13 07:07, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I only use openvpn to login to remote computers. > What do you use it for? I use it to place my entire Desktop session in the US, or another country, so that I have complete access to content and services which are geographically restricted. -- Gettin

Re: OpenVPN disapeared

2013-07-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/24/13 07:07, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Bill Oliver wrote: > >>> As a matter of interest, what is the point of NetworkManager-openvpn? >>> I'm running NetworkManager under Fedora-19/KDE on my laptop, >>> and I'm also running OpenVPN. >>> Both seem to be working fine, >>> so what is the point of

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:36 PM, inode0 wrote: > > > The victims are all the members of this list who don't want to > constantly be exposed to all this drama. The facts are in this case > Harald did nothing wrong at all. Harald continues to claim that he is a victim of moderators targeting

Re: [Fedora-users-br] Fedora 18: Nova versão, velhos problemas, velhas soluções não funcionam

2013-07-23 Thread Fernando Lozano
Gabriel, > lspci |grep -i vga > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation > Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. > [AMD/ATI] Whistler [Radeon HD 6630M/6650M/6750M/7670M/7690M] (rev f

rpmbuild

2013-07-23 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, After a cpanspec PDL-LAPACK-0.12-1.tgz I did: rpmbuild -bb perl-PDL-LAPACK-0.12.spec Spec file-- Name:           perl-PDL-LAPACK-0.12 Version:        1 Release:        1%{?dist} Summary:        PDL::LAPACK::0.12 Perl module License:        CHECK(G

Re: OpenVPN disapeared

2013-07-23 Thread Timothy Murphy
Bill Oliver wrote: >> As a matter of interest, what is the point of NetworkManager-openvpn? >> I'm running NetworkManager under Fedora-19/KDE on my laptop, >> and I'm also running OpenVPN. >> Both seem to be working fine, >> so what is the point of installing NetworkManager-openvpn? > It lets me

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread inode0
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > HI > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrot >> >> > >> what about think 10 seconds that 5 inpolite messages out of 1000 >> are statistically not relevant - show me 5 people with more answers >> than me in the last two years

Please discontinue to continue this thread Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread jdow
Hasn't this noise gone on long enough? Hint, it is why I stay away despite experience with RedHat Linux going back to Hurricane. It's not worth my time to more than browse titles of late. {+_+} On 2013/07/23 14:42, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Reindl Harald -- use

Yum tries to update to three nvidia drivers all at once

2013-07-23 Thread Powell, Michael
I attempted to perform a `sudo yum update`, but yum produced an error and exited because it was trying to update to nvidia drivers 319.32, 304xx, and 173 all at the same time. I excluded the older drivers (304xx and 173) and proceeded with the update, and Nvidia-settings shows that the version ru

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Reindl Harald > > and how does this match "You can ignore threads in any mailing list"? > Read the context. If you don't follow list guidelines, moderators can step in but if you merely are not interested in any topic, you can ignore the threads related to that.

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrot > > > what about think 10 seconds that 5 inpolite messages out of 1000 > are statistically not relevant - show me 5 people with more answers > than me in the last two years and the look how often the ones with > a few rplies are answer the s

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/23/2013 02:02 PM, Darryl L. Pierce issued this missive: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:52:06PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 23.07.2013 22:39, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 04:35:44PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: I'm snipping all of this tripe. Gang, can we PLEASE drop

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:52:06PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 23.07.2013 22:39, schrieb Darryl L. Pierce: > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 04:35:44PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >>> Yup, just received my first insult... Do I get a badge now or is there a > >>> club I can join? :) > >> > >> this

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Reindl Harald > > Am 23.07.2013 22:52, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > > hmm that must be the reason i get moderated and censored beause > a few inpolite answers > Censorship doesn't mean what you think it does and it is different from moderation but yes, your behav

Re: [Fedora-users-br] Fedora 18: Nova versão, velhos problemas, velhas soluções não funcionam

2013-07-23 Thread Fernando Lozano
Gabriel, Vou Ficar no aguardo Fernando, Tentei instalar o driver por varias vezes e simplesmente não consigo usar simplesmente não sobe mais o X. tbm não sei se e devido a placa grafica hibrida que tenho. Então não levanta o X com o driver proptietário? E com o driver open source funciona? Q

Re: "passwd" by root for user fails with sssd,pam, ldap [SOLVED]

2013-07-23 Thread Augustin Wolf
On 23 July 2013 16:39, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> That means that either you need the admin's DN and plain-text >> password in a file (like the older PAM LDAP does) or you need the >> user to enter their own password (like both sssd and PAM LDAP do). So, unless using command "passwd", will prompt

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:44:12PM +0200, Eric Viseur wrote: > Oh my god, it feels like I'm reading a baby whining because another one > pinched his ass. You call this an insult ? This got to be the most > childish mailing-list I've ever been on. Grow up some balls, people. This > really is rid

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Eric Viseur > > Yes, this is kindergarden. I'm leaving this mailing-list. Too bad for > the precious knowledge I'll miss. Gonna use the forums instead. > You can ignore threads in any mailing list and fwiw, forums are far more heavily moderated compared to

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Eric Viseur
Oh my god, it feels like I'm reading a baby whining because another one pinched his ass. You call this an insult ? This got to be the most childish mailing-list I've ever been on. Grow up some balls, people. This really is ridiculous. You're offended because the first answer wasn't rolled in sa

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 04:35:44PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Yup, just received my first insult... Do I get a badge now or is there a > > club I can join? :) > > this below is what you are calling an insult? Yes, the part I hilighted before is rather insulting to people. > seriously? ***

Re: Fedup from 18 to 19, fingers crossed

2013-07-23 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Richard Vickery < richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote: > In reading this my hopefully helpful hint / question would be: did you > enter the fedup command correctly? fedup -v --network 19? Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: /usr/local/lib*

2013-07-23 Thread doug
On 07/21/2013 06:30 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.07.2013 00:27, schrieb Kevin Martin: For a long time wine needed the 32 bit libs, as did Adobe Reader (they may still, I don't know as I don't use them at all these days). If you have either of those installed it may be why you still have the

Re: Fedup from 18 to 19, fingers crossed

2013-07-23 Thread Richard Vickery
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: >> >> It may be an artifact of people who have trouble being more likely to >> write to the list, but it seems that people who have Fedup problems seem to >> outnumber those who have succe

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts

2013-07-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.07.2013 16:25, schrieb Richard Shaw: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Olav Vitters > wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 08:26:26AM +0200, lee wrote: > > I don't know what the point is in moderating his posts. He does things > > Then you haven't see

Re: /usr/local/lib*

2013-07-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2013 13:41, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: >> no, but "yum remove \*i686\*" should kill them :-) > > So I have removed the i686 packages: > > | [root@yun:~]$ yum list installed |grep 686 > | texlive-url.noarch 3:svn16864.3.2-0.1.fc19 > installed > |

Re: /usr/local/lib*

2013-07-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2013 14:31, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: >> because the FHS says it and after UsrMove anything >> in /lib was merged to /usr/lib >> >> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 2013-05-30 23:36 bin -> usr/bin >> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 2013-05-30 23:36 lib -> usr/lib >> lrwxrwxrw

Re: Fedup from 18 to 19, fingers crossed

2013-07-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2013 04:41, schrieb Richard Shaw: > On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Mark LaPierre > wrote: > > It may be an artifact of people who have trouble being more likely to > write to the list, but it seems that > people who have Fedup problems seem to outn

Re: /usr/local/lib*

2013-07-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2013 00:27, schrieb Kevin Martin: > For a long time wine needed the 32 bit libs, as did Adobe Reader (they may > still, I don't know as I don't use them at all these > days). If you have either of those installed it may be why you still have > the 32 bit libs installed wine, AdobeRea

Proposal: ReadOnlyDirectories /etc and /usr for network-services

2013-07-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Original-Nachricht Betreff: Proposal: ReadOnlyDirectories /etc and /usr for network-services Datum: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 00:02:02 +0200 Von: Reindl Harald An: Mailing-List fedora-devel Hi has anybody considered to put the following as default in systemd-units of network services?

Re: unstable libreoffice

2013-07-23 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/23/2013 04:14 AM, lee wrote: The OP posted here. You can post on their list any time; I already did. The list was difficult to get rid of because they didn't even manage to get unsubscribing to work. Just look at all the top posters and the HTML junk in that list and you get an impression

Re: [postgis-users] Status of Postgis-related rpms

2013-07-23 Thread Max Pyziur
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, Bborie Park wrote: There shouldn't be any issues between PostgreSQL 9.2 and PostGIS 2.0. If there are, they'd be Fedora derived problems... Is there any chance that this will be corrected for Fedora 18? Technically, Fedora 18 won't go EOL until until one month after the

Audacity 2.0.3-1 fc19 x86_64, reproduce crash on Equalize effect?

2013-07-23 Thread awf
On my fresh F19, Cinnamon machine the equalize effect crashes silently, every time, either free-world or nonfree-world. Can someone confirm this? 1. Open Audacity 2. Either import audio clip or generate new track with tone 3. Click/drag to select an audio range 4. Try to apply Equalization from E

Re: OpenVPN disapeared

2013-07-23 Thread Bill Oliver
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013, Timothy Murphy wrote: Bill Oliver wrote: Are you using NetworkManager? If so, make sure that the package NetworkManager-openvpn is installed, along with (of course) openvpn an the appropriate desktop widget (i.e. for me using KDE, it's kde-plasma-networkmanagement-openvp

Re: OpenVPN disapeared

2013-07-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
Diego Vargas wrote: Hi Bill, I've just fixed. I've installed this package: NetworkManager-openvpn-gnome.x86_64 Now it works. Thanks for your help anyway. Diego That sounds like a problem with something you installed putting in a different (probably newer) version of something. If you have

Re: Install fc18 from DVD demands network connection

2013-07-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
Darryl L. Pierce wrote: On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 02:01:43PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: This is back, again. Having found out that fedup fails totally to work on drives with encrypted partitions, I don't think this is still the case: I did F18->F19 on my laptop (encrypted /home and swap) using

Re: "passwd" by root for user fails with sssd,pam, ldap

2013-07-23 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/23/2013 01:20 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, Augustin Wolf wrote: >> Okay, it isn't safe to store root password in a file. By all my >> administrator heart I agree. But I don't see why you have to >> store it in a plain text

Re: please discontinue to moderate Haralds posts (was: a different point of view to "etiquette")

2013-07-23 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 08:26:26AM +0200, lee wrote: > > I don't know what the point is in moderating his posts. He does things > > Then you haven't seen his messages that haven't made it through the > moderation queue. I know not all make

Re: unstable libreoffice

2013-07-23 Thread poma
On 21.07.2013 16:23, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote: > Is anyone else seeing a horribly unstable Libreoffice in Fedora 19? > Just keeping the Open File dialog open for a bit longer than usually is > needed to open a file, makes in crash. > > It doesn't happen all the time, but at frustratingly bad

Re: OpenVPN disapeared

2013-07-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/23/13 21:26, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Bill Oliver wrote: > >> Are you using NetworkManager? If so, make sure that the package >> NetworkManager-openvpn is installed, along with (of course) openvpn an the >> appropriate desktop widget (i.e. for me using KDE, it's >> kde-plasma-networkmanagemen

Re: OpenVPN disapeared

2013-07-23 Thread Timothy Murphy
Bill Oliver wrote: > Are you using NetworkManager? If so, make sure that the package > NetworkManager-openvpn is installed, along with (of course) openvpn an the > appropriate desktop widget (i.e. for me using KDE, it's > kde-plasma-networkmanagement-openvpn and kde-plasma-nm-openvpn) As a matte

Re: unstable libreoffice

2013-07-23 Thread Martin Skjöldebrand
On Tuesday 23 July 2013 08.17.18 Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Martin Skjöldebrand > > wrote: > > Is anyone else seeing a horribly unstable Libreoffice in Fedora 19? > > Just keeping the Open File dialog open for a bit longer than usually is > > > > needed to open

Re: unstable libreoffice

2013-07-23 Thread lee
Martin Skjöldebrand writes: > On Monday 22 July 2013 13.51.04 lee wrote: >> >> LaTeX works great for what I'm doing, and I didn't bother to install LO >> on Fedora. Give it ten years or so, and LO might be usable. > > Works great is completely dependent on what you want to do. For daily writing

Re: unstable libreoffice

2013-07-23 Thread lee
Robert Holtzman writes: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 02:44:07AM +0200, lee wrote: >> Robert Holtzman writes: >> > There are thousands of people using it right now with great >> > satisfaction. If you haven't checked to see what has been fixed you >> > aren't entitled to make that statement. >> >>

Re: unstable libreoffice

2013-07-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote: > Is anyone else seeing a horribly unstable Libreoffice in Fedora 19? > Just keeping the Open File dialog open for a bit longer than usually is > needed to open a file, makes in crash. > > It doesn't happen all the time, but at frustr

Re: unstable libreoffice

2013-07-23 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 02:44:07AM +0200, lee wrote: > Robert Holtzman writes: > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 01:51:04PM +0200, lee wrote: > >> Martin Skjöldebrand writes: > >> > >> > Is anyone else seeing a horribly unstable Libreoffice in Fedora 19? > >> > >> I decided against using it quite