Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread doug
On 02/08/2013 12:11 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 07 February 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. sent: I mean even if it isn't in the repos.couldn't one just go to the actual LibreOffice web-site and download it for themselves? Or SHOULD I wait for it to be added to a repo? I've always won

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.02.2013 23:08, schrieb Claude Jones: > On 02/07/2013 02:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 07.02.2013 20:56, schrieb Claude Jones: >>> On 2/7/2013 2:46 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote: I was hopping to get it on the next "yum update". ;-) >>> if you turned on the rawhide repo, it a

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 07 February 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. sent: > I mean even if it isn't in the repos.couldn't one just go to the > actual LibreOffice web-site and download it for themselves? Or SHOULD > I wait for it to be added to a repo? I've always wondered about > this You can

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/07/2013 05:16 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 17:46:59 -0200 Fernando Lozano wrote: I was hopping to get it on the next "yum update". ;-) But serious, is there a politic / decision by the Fedora Borard about when'll we get LibreOffice 4? You can download it from: https://w

Re: Icon Size.....

2013-02-07 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/07/2013 04:42 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/07/2013 01:29 PM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: YesI found the file in question..opened it with a text editor.and changed the icon size setting... Oh, good. It's nice to know that Gnome hasn't gone the route of putting everything into binary

Re: FC18: Cannot connect to wireless networks after latest update

2013-02-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/08/2013 06:35 AM, Stevo Slavić wrote: > After yesterdays update (see [1]) wireless stopped working on my hp 8710p > laptop. To be more precise, wireless appears as to be on but it does not > connect to local home wifi, and under Wireless network settings all wifi > networks appear as out o

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/08/2013 06:08 AM, Claude Jones wrote: > I posted information, not a recommendation Yep, sounded informational to me. -- Don't be bullied by the judgmental grammar and spelling police. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: ht

Re: audacity manual dependency

2013-02-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:16:18 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > I'm just guessing here, but it may be that it never occurred to anybody > that you might want to have the manual without the program. Tell the packagers. During initial Fedora Package Review, such problems are often noticed and commented on,

FC18: Cannot connect to wireless networks after latest update

2013-02-07 Thread Stevo Slavić
Hello Fedora community, After yesterdays update (see [1]) wireless stopped working on my hp 8710p laptop. To be more precise, wireless appears as to be on but it does not connect to local home wifi, and under Wireless network settings all wifi networks appear as out of range. When I try to force t

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/07/2013 02:08 PM, Claude Jones wrote: I posted information, not a recommendation - I've installed single programs from rawhide over the years, and I'm well aware of the dependency issues that can arise. The way you phrased your suggestion, it looked like a recommendation. And, a newcomer

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 17:46:59 -0200 Fernando Lozano wrote: > > I was hopping to get it on the next "yum update". ;-) > > But serious, is there a politic / decision by the Fedora Borard > about when'll we get LibreOffice 4? > You can download it from: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ If yo

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Claude Jones
On 02/07/2013 02:58 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 07.02.2013 20:56, schrieb Claude Jones: On 2/7/2013 2:46 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote: I was hopping to get it on the next "yum update". ;-) if you turned on the rawhide repo, it appears you could get it this is a VERY VERY bad idea for recomme

Re: Icon Size.....

2013-02-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/07/2013 01:29 PM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: YesI found the file in question..opened it with a text editor.and changed the icon size setting... Oh, good. It's nice to know that Gnome hasn't gone the route of putting everything into binary databases. And, just for completeness, w

Re: Icon Size.....

2013-02-07 Thread Eddie O'Connor
YesI found the file in question..opened it with a text editor.and changed the icon size setting... On Feb 7, 2013 1:39 PM, "Joe Zeff" wrote: > On 02/08/2013 01:23 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > >> I haven't only because I don't even know where that file exists, but I >> will just

Re: audacity manual dependency

2013-02-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/07/2013 12:57 PM, Mike Williams wrote: That isn't what happened this time. I just thought having to remove the manual and re-install it was a rough edge that should be smoothed out. No argument from me on that. And, as far as asking why you'd want the manual without the program, that w

Re: audacity manual dependency

2013-02-07 Thread Mike Williams
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/07/2013 11:51 AM, Mike Williams wrote: >> > I'm just guessing here, but it may be that it never occurred to anybody that > you might want to have the manual without the program. > It isn't the most common case, although it does happen. For

Re: audacity manual dependency

2013-02-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:51:45 -0500 Mike Williams wrote: > Been reluctant to install f18 due to hearing that install program had > some major problems, although I guess I will have to give it a go > shortly. You might want to check out my install technique: http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/game

Re: audacity manual dependency

2013-02-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/07/2013 11:51 AM, Mike Williams wrote: Seems like a bug to me. Not sure where to report it. Is it just in the fedora packaging or upstream? I'm just guessing here, but it may be that it never occurred to anybody that you might want to have the manual without the program. -- users mail

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:46:59 -0200 Fernando Lozano wrote: > Hi there, > > > LibreOffice v4 has been released > > > > http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/02/07/the-document-foundation-announces-libreoffice-4-0/ > > > > Is this a big deal? It would be nice to have a more graceful UI. > > i thin

Re: audacity manual dependency

2013-02-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/07/2013 12:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: have never done a fresh install of any linux setup always do an upgrade in production as well as for workstations over years I've done both, but prefer to do an upgrade. The only reason I did a fresh install of F17 on this box is because there was

Re: audacity manual dependency

2013-02-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:51:45 -0500, Mike Williams wrote: > I had audacity and the audacity manual installed. When I found that > the build of audacity I had would not handle mp3 files I attempted to > remove audacity because install of audacity-freeworld which includes > mp3 support failed due to

Re: audacity manual dependency

2013-02-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.02.2013 21:02, schrieb Mike Williams: > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 07.02.2013 20:51, schrieb Mike Williams: >>> Hi there. Still running f16 which I know reaches EOL in a few days. >>> Been reluctant to install f18 due to hearing that install program

Re: audacity manual dependency

2013-02-07 Thread Mike Williams
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 07.02.2013 20:51, schrieb Mike Williams: >> Hi there. Still running f16 which I know reaches EOL in a few days. >> Been reluctant to install f18 due to hearing that install program had >> some major problems, although I guess I will h

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote: > > But serious, is there a politic / decision by the Fedora Borard about > when'll we get LibreOffice 4? > The Fedora Board is not involved in technical decisions like these. The update policy is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upda

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.02.2013 20:56, schrieb Claude Jones: > On 2/7/2013 2:46 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote: >> I was hopping to get it on the next "yum update". ;-) >> > if you turned on the rawhide repo, it appears you could get it this is a VERY VERY bad idea for recommend it to users which are not REALLY god at

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Claude Jones
On 2/7/2013 2:46 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote: I was hopping to get it on the next "yum update". ;-) if you turned on the rawhide repo, it appears you could get it -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription option

Re: audacity manual dependency

2013-02-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.02.2013 20:51, schrieb Mike Williams: > Hi there. Still running f16 which I know reaches EOL in a few days. > Been reluctant to install f18 due to hearing that install program had > some major problems, although I guess I will have to give it a go > shortly. in my world between 16 and 18

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.02.2013 20:46, schrieb Fernando Lozano: > Hi there, > >> LibreOffice v4 has been released >> >> http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/02/07/the-document-foundation-announces-libreoffice-4-0/ >> >> Is this a big deal? It would be nice to have a more graceful UI. >> i think with "is it a b

audacity manual dependency

2013-02-07 Thread Mike Williams
Hi there. Still running f16 which I know reaches EOL in a few days. Been reluctant to install f18 due to hearing that install program had some major problems, although I guess I will have to give it a go shortly. I had audacity and the audacity manual installed. When I found that the build of a

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Fernando Lozano
Hi there, > LibreOffice v4 has been released > > http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/02/07/the-document-foundation-announces-libreoffice-4-0/ > > Is this a big deal? It would be nice to have a more graceful UI. > i think with "is it a big deal" was meant "would we get this in > F18/F19 or have

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 07.02.2013 20:04, schrieb Jorge Martínez López: > 2013/2/7 Steven Stern : >> LibreOffice v4 has been released >> >> http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/02/07/the-document-foundation-announces-libreoffice-4-0/ >> >> Is this a big deal? It would be nice to have a more graceful UI. > > I thi

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Bill Davidsen
Steven Stern wrote: LibreOffice v4 has been released http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/02/07/the-document-foundation-announces-libreoffice-4-0/ Is this a big deal? It would be nice to have a more graceful UI. Hopefully this would show up in updates-testing, or even be carried as a separ

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi! 2013/2/7 Steven Stern : > LibreOffice v4 has been released > > http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/02/07/the-document-foundation-announces-libreoffice-4-0/ > > Is this a big deal? It would be nice to have a more graceful UI. I think it is. The LibreOffice is moving forward and making impr

Re: [OT?] question about external hd

2013-02-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/07/2013 09:50 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: taking the "I'm the only user" approach to security is a good way to form bad habits. Especially when you consider how many programs create virtual users to own their files. Do you really want all of them to have unlimited access to that drive eve

LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-07 Thread Steven Stern
LibreOffice v4 has been released http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/02/07/the-document-foundation-announces-libreoffice-4-0/ Is this a big deal? It would be nice to have a more graceful UI. -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

Re: Icon Size.....

2013-02-07 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/08/2013 01:23 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: I haven't only because I don't even know where that file exists, but I will just search my machine for it and see what parameters it contains, possibly there's some switch that can be toggled or some value that can be changed..thanks! I'm

Re: [OT?] question about external hd

2013-02-07 Thread Bill Davidsen
"Germán A. Racca" wrote: On 02/06/2013 04:33 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 02/06/2013 06:19 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: Hi people, I have recently bought an external hard drive of 1 Tb capacity (Samsung M3). I made a backup of my home directory with the following command: $ cd /home $ rsync -av

Re: F18: Can I get paint and paste back?

2013-02-07 Thread sean darcy
On 02/06/2013 08:01 PM, sean darcy wrote: On 02/03/2013 05:02 PM, Edward M wrote: On 2/3/2013 1:16 PM, sean darcy wrote: Rebooted. Again Xorg.0.log finds the Emulate3Buttons option. But still doesn't work. Using xfce-4.10. Wonder if that's the problem? Option "ZAxisMappin

Re: Cannot unlock screen from the lock

2013-02-07 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jean Jacques wrote: Will try it but seems just happens under Gnome-Shell. That's a bit of information which clearly make a difference. Can't help, went to XFCE back in fc16, there was no user demand for GNOME3, the greatest enthusiasm encountered was at the "I can live with it" level, users fi

Re: Icon Size.....

2013-02-07 Thread eoconno...@gmail.com
Cool..thanks!... Sent from Eddie's Cell Phone - Reply message - From: "g" To: "fedora users" Subject: Icon Size. Date: Thu, Feb 7, 2013 9:15 am On 02/08/2013 09:23 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: <> On 02/06/2013 09:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: <> >> Have you checked gnome-config

hopefully simple xfce4 config question

2013-02-07 Thread Bill Davidsen
In fc16, the uptime monitor in the panel displays both days (line 1) and HH:MM (line 2). In fc17 and fc18 it displays the whole days only, and only shows the time if you hover the cursor on the item. Since there is plenty of room on the panel for all information, how do it change the display to

Grub PXEBOOT Question - DHCP

2013-02-07 Thread Styma, Robert E (Robert)
I have been working with some old hardware (no CD rom unless I pull the machine apart (20 screws)) and temporarily add one in. I have set up a grub floppy and successfully installed an old version of Fedora. The relevant section of my current dhcpd.conf file looks like this: -

Re: Icon Size.....

2013-02-07 Thread g
On 02/08/2013 09:23 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: <> On 02/06/2013 09:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: <> >> Have you checked gnome-config, or whatever it's called? > > I haven't only because I don't even know where that file exists, but I > will just search my machine for it and see what parameters i

Re: Icon Size.....

2013-02-07 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/06/2013 09:01 PM, Joe Wulf wrote: Seems Gnome has made such things far more difficult. I don't have F18 installed yet, haven't had time. But I did a yahoo search for "Fedora 18 change icon size" and found this: http://abhizweblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/gnome3-change-icon-size.html Hope tha

Re: Icon Size.....

2013-02-07 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/06/2013 09:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/06/2013 05:53 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Thanks Joe! But I've already checked those places.they were the first places I checked.I wonder if there's some sort of "add on" that can be installed for Gnome that would allow this?. Have