Re: F18: Update problems ?

On 01/25/2013 10:31 AM, Aaron Gray wrote: > On 25 January 2013 00:51, Ed Greshko > wrote: > > On 01/25/2013 08:32 AM, Aaron Gray wrote: > > Is anyone experiencing update problems with Fedora at the moment ? > > > > I keep getting restarts and Gnome 3

Re: Sound gone from yum upgrade from F17->F18

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:12:52 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:48:04 -0600 > Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:24:13 -0800 Rick Stevens > > wrote: > > > > > On 01/24/2013 05:57 PM, Ranjan Maitra issued this missive: > > > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:41:57 -0800 Ri

Re: disable IPv6?

Once upon a time, Tom Horsley said: > My system at work seems to take a long time to start > the network. I have this suspicion it is waiting for > an IPv6 DHCP server to respond (which won't happen). It looks like the F18 install writes out ifcfg-* files with "DHCPV6C=yes", which should probably

Re: disable IPv6?

Am 25.01.2013 01:51, schrieb Tom Horsley: > My system at work seems to take a long time to start > the network. I have this suspicion it is waiting for > an IPv6 DHCP server to respond (which won't happen). > > Would putting IPV6INIT=no in the ifcfg-em1 file > make this stop trying to use IPv6,

Re: disable IPv6?

Tom Horsley wrote: My system at work seems to take a long time to start the network. I have this suspicion it is waiting for an IPv6 DHCP server to respond (which won't happen). Would putting IPV6INIT=no in the ifcfg-em1 file make this stop trying to use IPv6, or is there some other way (this is

Re: Sound gone from yum upgrade from F17->F18

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:48:04 -0600 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:24:13 -0800 Rick Stevens > wrote: > > > On 01/24/2013 05:57 PM, Ranjan Maitra issued this missive: > > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:41:57 -0800 Rick Stevens > > > wrote: > > > > > >> On 01/24/2013 05:32 PM, Ranjan Mai

Re: ntp

Dnia piątek, 25 stycznia 2013 10:54:26 Ed Greshko pisze: > On 01/25/2013 10:49 AM, Jan Litwiński wrote: > > but when I run ls in var tmp is green, I think it is a symlink > > In /var this is an example of a regular directory > > drwxrwxrwt. 61 root root 4096 Jan 25 10:51 tmp > > this is an examp

Kmail

I set up kmail to go next unread message in folder, but by mistake I choose privies button, how to change it to next button TIA -- Jan Litwiński http://netsjanek.blogspot.com/ http://netsjanek.bloog.pl/ Linux is like a wigwam no gates no windows but apache inside -- users mailing list users@li

Re: ntp

On 01/25/2013 10:49 AM, Jan Litwiński wrote: > but when I run ls in var tmp is green, I think it is a symlink In /var this is an example of a regular directory drwxrwxrwt. 61 root root 4096 Jan 25 10:51 tmp this is an example of a symlink lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root6 Dec 26 14:44 run -> ../run

Re: ntp

Dnia czwartek, 24 stycznia 2013 21:36:50 Sam Varshavchik pisze: > Jan Litwiński writes: > > Dnia czwartek, 24 stycznia 2013 21:06:26 Sam Varshavchik pisze: > > > Jan Litwiński writes: > > > > Dnia piątek, 25 stycznia 2013 09:28:24 Ed Greshko pisze: > > > > > > > > subject is closed, I now use chro

Re: Sound gone from yum upgrade from F17->F18

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:24:13 -0800 Rick Stevens wrote: > On 01/24/2013 05:57 PM, Ranjan Maitra issued this missive: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:41:57 -0800 Rick Stevens > > wrote: > > > >> On 01/24/2013 05:32 PM, Ranjan Maitra issued this missive: > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> I did an upgrade using:

Re: ntp

Jan Litwiński writes: Dnia czwartek, 24 stycznia 2013 21:06:26 Sam Varshavchik pisze: > Jan Litwiński writes: > > Dnia piątek, 25 stycznia 2013 09:28:24 Ed Greshko pisze: > > > > subject is closed, I now use chrony :) > > thank you again > > Well, it doesn't matter any more, I suppose, but let m

Re: F18: Update problems ?

On 25 January 2013 00:51, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 01/25/2013 08:32 AM, Aaron Gray wrote: > > Is anyone experiencing update problems with Fedora at the moment ? > > > > I keep getting restarts and Gnome 3 boot failures into old desktop. > > > > Then restart and I get Gnome 3 again after a restart a

Install / upgrade fc17 -> fc18 better than I expected

I wanted to try upgrading on a system with multiple boot and root partitions, sharing home ans swap. How I did it: I took an fc17 test machine and made a new copy of the disk image qemu-img convert f17-work.img f18-base.img I made a working copy qemu-create -b fc18-base.img fc18-work

Re: ntp

Dnia czwartek, 24 stycznia 2013 21:06:26 Sam Varshavchik pisze: > Jan Litwiński writes: > > Dnia piątek, 25 stycznia 2013 09:28:24 Ed Greshko pisze: > > > > subject is closed, I now use chrony :) > > thank you again > > Well, it doesn't matter any more, I suppose, but let me make a wild guess: >

Re: Sound gone from yum upgrade from F17->F18

On 01/24/2013 05:57 PM, Ranjan Maitra issued this missive: On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:41:57 -0800 Rick Stevens wrote: On 01/24/2013 05:32 PM, Ranjan Maitra issued this missive: Hello, I did an upgrade using: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18 and

Re: ntp

On 01/25/2013 10:12 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > I don't know if F18 has changed the way services start Yes Since F17 the majority of services are controlled using systemd instead of SysV scripts. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd Your suggestions are out of date and not relevant to

Re: ntp

On 01/24/2013 06:46 PM, Jan Litwiński wrote: I have proglem with ntp service, I did: systemctl enable ntpd.service systemctl start ntpd.service but ntp don't start at boot, starting by hand works. As a solution I created rc.local and add to it systemctl start ntpd.service and it works. I think

Re: ntp

Jan Litwiński writes: Dnia piątek, 25 stycznia 2013 09:28:24 Ed Greshko pisze: subject is closed, I now use chrony :) thank you again Well, it doesn't matter any more, I suppose, but let me make a wild guess: Your /var/tmp is a symlink, right? pgpcSsISHEH9J.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Sound gone from yum upgrade from F17->F18

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:41:57 -0800 Rick Stevens wrote: > On 01/24/2013 05:32 PM, Ranjan Maitra issued this missive: > > Hello, > > > > I did an upgrade using: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18 > > > > and it was generally smooth and successf

Re: ntp

Dnia piątek, 25 stycznia 2013 09:28:24 Ed Greshko pisze: subject is closed, I now use chrony :) thank you again -- Jan Litwiński http://netsjanek.blogspot.com/ http://netsjanek.bloog.pl/ Linux is like a wigwam no gates no windows but apache inside -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: Sound gone from yum upgrade from F17->F18

On 01/24/2013 05:32 PM, Ranjan Maitra issued this missive: Hello, I did an upgrade using: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18 and it was generally smooth and successful, which generally made me ecstatic, until the two issues (from what I can tell u

Re: ntp

On 01/25/2013 09:31 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:23:10 -0800 > Rick Stevens wrote: > >> Package ypserv started... > I'm not running ypserv, just ypbind, and sometimes it just > isn't working when I boot. Tossing into rc.local something like > > /bin/bash -c 'sleep 10 ; service yp

Sound gone from yum upgrade from F17->F18

Hello, I did an upgrade using: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18 and it was generally smooth and successful, which generally made me ecstatic, until the two issues (from what I can tell up to now) came up: 1. Sound is gone. I have looked around a

Re: ntp

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 17:23:10 -0800 Rick Stevens wrote: > Package ypserv started... I'm not running ypserv, just ypbind, and sometimes it just isn't working when I boot. Tossing into rc.local something like /bin/bash -c 'sleep 10 ; service ypbind restart' > /dev/null 2>&1 < /dev/null & always le

Re: ntp

On 01/25/2013 09:22 AM, Jan Litwiński wrote: > thsnk you for mantion about chronyd.service, I set up it and it works > well, starts at boot. > thank you OK... Good -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the U

Re: ntp

On 01/25/2013 08:51 AM, Jan Litwiński wrote: > Dnia piątek, 25 stycznia 2013 08:39:25 Ed Greshko pisze: >> On 01/25/2013 07:46 AM, Jan Litwiński wrote: >>> I have proglem with ntp service, I did: >>> >>> systemctl enable ntpd.service >>> systemctl start ntpd.service >>> >>> but ntp don't start at b

Re: ntp

On 01/24/2013 05:08 PM, Tom Horsley issued this missive: On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:55:46 -0500 Matthew Miller wrote: Have you filed bugs for these? It's hard to fix problems if they're not reported. The biggest problem is NFS, and there are a slew of bugzillas about NFS not working already. Ther

Re: ntp

Dnia piątek, 25 stycznia 2013 08:39:25 Ed Greshko pisze: > On 01/25/2013 07:46 AM, Jan Litwiński wrote: > > I have proglem with ntp service, I did: > > > > systemctl enable ntpd.service > > systemctl start ntpd.service > > > > but ntp don't start at boot, starting by hand works. As a solution I >

Re: ntp

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:55:46 -0500 Matthew Miller wrote: > Have you filed bugs for these? It's hard to fix problems if they're not > reported. The biggest problem is NFS, and there are a slew of bugzillas about NFS not working already. There are also ypbind problems which I also see bugzillas abo

Re: ntp

Dnia piątek, 25 stycznia 2013 08:48:50 Ed Greshko pisze: > On 01/25/2013 08:39 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Did you check the status after you started ntpd.service? > > I meant to type > > Did you check the status of ntpd.service after boot and before you manually > started it. > > (no cof

Re: ntp

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 06:56:14PM -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > > My question is what is correct > > solution ? > I don't know the correct solution, but I have a bunch of things > I restart in my rc.local to get them to work right, so you are not > alone. Have you filed bugs for these? It's hard t

disable IPv6?

My system at work seems to take a long time to start the network. I have this suspicion it is waiting for an IPv6 DHCP server to respond (which won't happen). Would putting IPV6INIT=no in the ifcfg-em1 file make this stop trying to use IPv6, or is there some other way (this is with good old networ

Re: F18: Update problems ?

On 01/25/2013 08:32 AM, Aaron Gray wrote: > Is anyone experiencing update problems with Fedora at the moment ? > > I keep getting restarts and Gnome 3 boot failures into old desktop. > > Then restart and I get Gnome 3 again after a restart and then it wants to do > updates again. > > And the

Re: ntp

Dnia piątek, 25 stycznia 2013 08:39:25 Ed Greshko pisze: > On 01/25/2013 07:46 AM, Jan Litwiński wrote: > > I have proglem with ntp service, I did: > > > > systemctl enable ntpd.service > > systemctl start ntpd.service > > > > but ntp don't start at boot, starting by hand works. As a solution I >

Re: ntp

On 01/25/2013 08:39 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Did you check the status after you started ntpd.service? I meant to type Did you check the status of ntpd.service after boot and before you manually started it. (no coffee) -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving t

Re: ntp

On 01/25/2013 07:46 AM, Jan Litwiński wrote: > I have proglem with ntp service, I did: > > systemctl enable ntpd.service > systemctl start ntpd.service > > but ntp don't start at boot, starting by hand works. As a solution I > created rc.local and add to it systemctl start ntpd.service and it work

F18: Update problems ?

Hi, Is anyone experiencing update problems with Fedora at the moment ? I keep getting restarts and Gnome 3 boot failures into old desktop. Then restart and I get Gnome 3 again after a restart and then it wants to do updates again. And the whole thing goes in a circle. Aaron -- users mailing l

Re: ntp

On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:46:13 +0100 Jan Litwiński wrote: > My question is what is correct > solution ? I don't know the correct solution, but I have a bunch of things I restart in my rc.local to get them to work right, so you are not alone. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

ntp

I have proglem with ntp service, I did: systemctl enable ntpd.service systemctl start ntpd.service but ntp don't start at boot, starting by hand works. As a solution I created rc.local and add to it systemctl start ntpd.service and it works. I think ntpd starts before NetworkManager, My questio

Re: potential sshd gotcha

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:31:50 + John Horne wrote: > > The private key files now want to be group "ssh_keys". > > > The same was true with Fedora 17. Maybe, but I see they are all "root root" on my fedora17 partition, and sshd worked fine there, so something wants the new group a lot more on

Re: potential sshd gotcha

John Horne wrote: > The same was true with Fedora 17. My F17 and F18 boxes do not have my keys set to group "ssh_keys" and I can log in to any of them without a problem. # Fedora 18 box: $ ll /etc/ssh/ total 276 -rw---. 1 root root 245058 Dec 3 10:43 moduli -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 2104 Dec

Re: potential sshd gotcha

On Tue, 2013-01-22 at 17:11 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > I spent hours at work today getting sshd to function on > my desktop which I just switched to booting from the > fedora 18 partition. I finally discovered this: > > [root@zooty ~]# ls -l /etc/ssh > total 276 > -rw--- 1 root root 2450

Re: Battery life improved with F18

Thanks guys, I don't know what you did, but after upgrading my laptop FC17->FC18 I saw a 5 hr battery life being quoted - I never saw that long before. Hello! It happened to me too. Now I have 4 hours of battery life, when in Fedora 17 used to have around of

Re: Procmail issue

If I understand that correctly nothing at all gets through the first filter except mail that has been through gmail once. If that is correct a simple clone will do the rest. #initial filter for "has been through gmail once" goes here. # copy email to second recipient :0 c ! secondrecipi...@foo

Re: RPM wildcard question

On 01/24/2013 11:12 AM, Doug issued this missive: On 01/24/2013 12:26 PM, Wojciech Komornicki wrote: Expansion of the asterisk is handled by the shell. To see what such a command will do, issue the command echo *.rpm You will see the full list of RPMs. I thank all of you folks who ha

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

On 24 January 2013 16:14, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Tom Horsley > wrote: > > > > How about no schedule? When something worth releasing is done, declare > > it is time for a new release. Could be 6 months, could be 2 years. > > Now, that is something to think abou

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:54:27 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:38:19 -0600 > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > I'd rather we spent more effort on how figuring out how we can efficiently > > develop changes that will take longer than one release to get done. > > How about no schedule

Re: RPM wildcard question

On 01/24/2013 12:26 PM, Wojciech Komornicki wrote: Expansion of the asterisk is handled by the shell. To see what such a command will do, issue the command echo *.rpm You will see the full list of RPMs. I thank all of you folks who have answered. It turns out that the code I suggeste

Re: Procmail issue

Yeah. I realize that's probably what's getting jdow confused as well. Hopefully my previous message explains it better. One bit I forgot to add, was something jdow asked, 'what happens if someone e-mails kirash4@gmaildirectly' GMail forwards it back to my @pcraft domain. And that too will have

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

On 01/24/2013 04:43 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: "yum update" is NEVER a sane dist-upgrade Yes. At the very least, start with "yum upgrade" and hope for the best. N.B.: I've never tried this and don't know how well it works. I only know that there are people who swear that it's the only way th

Re: Procmail issue

On 01/24/2013 01:26 AM, jdow wrote: If you subtract out the loop are you trying to make a courtesy copy to one or more other addresses for all mail that is coming in? Your brief description below suggests that is the case. But the whole GMail loop is "undocumented" so it's hard to guess what rea

Re: F18: USB flash drives do not mount

On 01/23/2013 08:28 PM, Ranjan Maitra issued this missive: HI, I was wondering if anyone had any further suggestions on this? I believe we already answered this. By default, Fedora 17 and up do NOT automatically mount removable media. An icon for the media generally will appear on your desktop

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

Am 24.01.2013 17:40, schrieb Fernando Cassia: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Reindl Harald > wrote: >> have fun with automatic scripts which are assuming what you >> want to do in which way and why without knowing your >> environment and impacts > > if it´s a sequence of commands that you

RPM wildcard question

Expansion of the asterisk is handled by the shell. To see what such a command will do, issue the command echo *.rpm You will see the full list of RPMs. -- Wojciech Komornicki The goal of collegiate mathematics is the understanding of mathematical ideas per se. The role of application

[389-users] Migrating from ApacheDS

Hello, I am working on migrating from ApacheDS 1.5.7 to the newest 389-ds offered in the centos repos (I believe at this time it is 1.2.10.2-10.el6_3.) Everytime I try to import there are errors. Most of the errors are "No Such Object," while the majority of users are imported successfully. I a

Gtk 3 apps inside a NX session?

I first found this with emacs, but it appears to be any gtk3 app: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903410 Has anyone gotten a gtk3 app to work inside an NX session? I there maybe some theme I could switch to that doesn't hit whatever the bug is? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedor

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > have fun with automatic scripts which are assuming what you > want to do in which way and why without knowing your > environment and impacts if it´s a sequence of commands that you have to type, that sequence of commands can be saved into a

Re: [postgis-users] F18: Postgresql 9.2.x/PostGIS 1.5.x issues (fwd)

fyi too, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:05:55 +0200 From: Devrim Gündüz To: PostGIS Users Discussion , Max Pyziur Subject: Re: [postgis-users] F18: Postgresql 9.2.x/PostGIS 1.5.x issues Hi, This is a known issue, and there is

Re: [postgis-users] F18: Postgresql 9.2.x/PostGIS 1.5.x issues (fwd)

fyi, Max Pyziur p...@bama.com -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:32:52 -0800 From: dustymugs Reply-To: PostGIS Users Discussion To: PostGIS Users Discussion Subject: Re: [postgis-users] F18: Postgresql 9.2.x/PostGIS 1.5.x issues The combination of PostgreSQL 9

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

On 01/24/2013 03:38 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 15:29:23 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: I'd rather we spent more effort on how figuring out how we can efficiently develop changes that will take longer than one release to get done. By decoupling these works from the F

Re: a list of Fedora 18 package names?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:29:02 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > The first messages said "I'm running F17". And when the first helpful > > replies had come in after 15-18 minutes already, those have not been > > commented on. > > Sorry for not spending my life on this list and the GMail screen. > I

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > How about no schedule? When something worth releasing is done, declare > it is time for a new release. Could be 6 months, could be 2 years. Now, that is something to think about!! If the current approach isn´t working, let´s try different.

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:38:19 -0600 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > I'd rather we spent more effort on how figuring out how we can efficiently > develop changes that will take longer than one release to get done. How about no schedule? When something worth releasing is done, declare it is time for a new

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 15:29:23 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: I think we should keep on a six-month release cycle but also have "epic" planning for features across cycles. There was a suggestion at Fudcon to move to using point releases, each point with a six-month cycle but with a bigger two

Re: recommendations for SSD drive as first disk for fedora 18?

Rick Stevens writes: > And please, PLEASE make sure you have a reliable and consistent backup > procedure. I like SSDs, but when they die they generally die > catastrophically and completely (at least in my experience) and you may > not be able to recover anything from them. You can do rsyncs fr

Re: humble suggestion to Fedora developers

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 09:04:55PM +, James Freer wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > Having some experience with timing development cycles in agile/scrum, the > > problem with a longer release cycle is that the amount of work bitten off > > grows to match, a

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:24:25 -0500 Temlakos wrote: > > So I think, when I can block out enough time, that I will install > and run that "fedora-update" script. > > Temlakos Just be careful of selinux: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-January/113429.html -- Regards, Frank l

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

Am 24.01.2013 14:34, schrieb Fernando Cassia: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> - remove “ro” (read only) >> - append “rw” (read write) to let dracut mount your root filesystem writeable >> - remove “rhgb” (Red Hat graphical boot) to disable the graphical bootsplash >

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > what is the good in leading people to troubles with > wrong instructions I side with Reindl here. If one posts incomplete instructions, people seeking a solution will quickly conclude "here, someone did it this way and it worked for him..

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > - remove “ro” (read only) > - append “rw” (read write) to let dracut mount your root filesystem writeable > - remove “rhgb” (Red Hat graphical boot) to disable the graphical bootsplash > - append “rd.info” to get a more verbose output from

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

Am 24.01.2013 14:18, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:05:25 +0100 > Reindl Harald wrote: > >> that is not the point > it is for this post. no >> the point is that "yum update" IS ALWAYS WRONG for a dist-upgrade >> the point is that ANY yum-commadn alone is NOT ENOUGH > > http:/

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

On 01/24/2013 04:31 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 24.01.2013 03:50, schrieb Temlakos: official: fedup reality: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18 That's what I was after: reality. And reality is that at least fifty percent of all users are fed u

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:05:25 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > that is not the point it is for this post. > > the point is that "yum update" IS ALWAYS WRONG for a dist-upgrade > the point is that ANY yum-commadn alone is NOT ENOUGH http://www.thefreedictionary.com/synopsis > > http://fedoraproje

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

Am 24.01.2013 13:56, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:53:24 +0100 > Reindl Harald wrote: > >>> That was done by following the special instructions, >>> at the time of F16 > F17 dracut --add usrmove (iirc) >> >> so please do not strip out such essential informations >> >> > Check t

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:53:24 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > > That was done by following the special instructions, > > at the time of F16 > F17 dracut --add usrmove (iirc) > > so please do not strip out such essential informations > > Check the OP, F17 > F18 not essential in this case. If

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

Am 24.01.2013 13:46, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:43:28 +0100 > Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 24.01.2013 13:00, schrieb Frank Murphy: > >>> yum update --releasever=18 from a (level 3 boot) >>> Have done it since F13 > F14 > F15 > F16 > F17 > F18 >> >> PLEASE BE CAREFUL >> >> "yum

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:43:28 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 24.01.2013 13:00, schrieb Frank Murphy: > > yum update --releasever=18 from a (level 3 boot) > > Have done it since F13 > F14 > F15 > F16 > F17 > F18 > > PLEASE BE CAREFUL > > "yum update --releasever=18" is NOT enough for a clean dis

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

Am 24.01.2013 13:00, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:10:24 -0500 > Temlakos wrote: >> I'm trying to sort out the rumors I've heard. Among other things: >> that using a Live Spin CD on an existing Fedora system is not safe, >> and will destroy all data. > > Live CD\DVD are not des

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

Frank Murphy wrote: > Live CD\DVD are not designed for upgrading. > Good for testing h\w, rescue, min *DE install Is it in fact possible to install Fedora-18 from the Live KDE CD without accepting "automatic partitioning", which as far as I can see is completely undefined? (I have other OSs on my

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:10:24 -0500 Temlakos wrote: > Everyone: > > I'm trying to sort out the rumors I've heard. Among other things: > that using a Live Spin CD on an existing Fedora system is not safe, > and will destroy all data. Live CD\DVD are not designed for upgrading. Good for testing h\

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

Temlakos wrote: >Everyone: > >I'm trying to sort out the rumors I've heard. Among other things: that >using a Live Spin CD on an existing Fedora system is not safe, and will > >destroy all data. > >Has that actually happened to anyone here? Just running it no - updating always has a tiny risk.

Re: F18: FYI "Connection Failed" message box appearing but Ethernet okay.

On 24 January 2013 02:16, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 01:22 +, Aaron Gray wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I installed F18 yesterday and did updates and everything seemed fine. > > > > Today I am getting a black message box at the bottom of the Gnome Window > > saying "Connection

Re: a list of Fedora 18 package names?

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > The first messages said "I'm running F17". And when the first helpful > replies had come in after 15-18 minutes already, those have not been > commented on. Sorry for not spending my life on this list and the GMail screen. I only reply to

Re: a list of Fedora 18 package names?

On 1/23/2013 10:17 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: That is a great idea too, although I´ll take Mr Greshko´s offer at the moment. Wonder if they index all packages or just the 214 they track? (for instance, OpenJDK is not included in the list of packages tracked by Distrowatch... Oh i thought y

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:12 AM, jonc wrote: > It's a perfectly valid way to list commands that need to be run as root > when you're writing a tutorial *soapbox mode on* a cut-and-paste list of commands is not a tutorial, it´s an excercise in absurdity. A tutorial would say "run this upgrade s

Fedora 18 bugs - Disappearing window while pasting a file in to a folder.

I have a problem in my f18, Disappearing window while pasting a file in to a folder. *Prasobh * * ** ** *** -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/u

Re: Procmail issue

On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:28:07 -0700, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > :0 > * !^X-Forwarded-For: kira...@gmail.com > myt...@pcigrafx.com > * !^X-Forwarded-For: kira...@gmail.com myt...@pcraft.com > * !^From.*kira...@gmail.com > * !^To.*myt...@papillon.pcraft.com > ! kira...@gmail.com > > :0c > * ^X-

Re: a list of Fedora 18 package names?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:49:10 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> But 19 messages after the original post, I´m still answering why I > >> want to obtain such list, instead of saying ´thank you´ to whoever > >> might have provided it. > > > > I thought you got multiple reasonable answers (using yum or rep

Re: Acer V5-171 and Fedora 18

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 20 January 2013, Artifex Maximus sent: >> This laptop has Windows 8 preinstalled and I am not able to install >> Fedora 18 with Secure Boot enabled or disabled. Similar problem with >> other distribution. Looks like stuck at GRU

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

Am 24.01.2013 04:12, schrieb jonc: > On 01/23/2013 10:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 01/23/2013 06:50 PM, Temlakos wrote: >>> >>> Why does the method you linked to, recommend using the "su" method, that >>> is, "becoming root" with every single command? >>> >> >> Somebody wasn't thinking. If I'd h

Re: Fedora Live CD Spins - Are They Safe?

Am 24.01.2013 03:50, schrieb Temlakos: >> official: fedup >> reality: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18 >> >> > > That's what I was after: reality. And reality is that at least fifty percent > of all users are fed up with fedup. who cares, 90

Re: Procmail issue

That does not seem to match what I broke down as the rule. Whose account is getting filtered. That will help analyze the rule. The loop through GMail is muddying the water here. And note that you CANNOT do the "else" clause without a clone operation. I presume that is what the GMail loop kludge i

Re: Procmail issue

Let's try this: In simple form, it looks like this: if (message does NOT contain header) { send to GMail } else { drop in recipient mailbox send copy to other email } The first recipe works, as specified, and does what it should do which is to check whether an incoming e-mail to the system

Re: rsync (ssh) authorisation weirdness on F18

On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:53:31 +0100 William Murray wrote: / "Connection closed by XXX.YYY.ZZZ.??? [preauth]" /> That was one of the errors I was seeing which led me to start this thread: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-January/429506.html