Re: not sure this is the best place, but...

2012-12-02 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 07:14:05PM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/02/2012 07:03 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >this is way offtopic, but back in my day, vietnam was =the= > > war, and everybody had to serve. I think that should still > > be the way it is... not the minority of those who want to,

Re: not sure this is the best place, but...

2012-12-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/02/2012 07:03 PM, Gary Kline wrote: this is way offtopic, but back in my day, vietnam was =the= war, and everybody had to serve. I think that should still be the way it is... not the minority of those who want to, like you, or have few other chances. Tonkin Gulf Y

Re: not sure this is the best place, but...

2012-12-02 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 05:10:24PM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/02/2012 04:59 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >yes! [sir!] :-) > > Don't call me "sir!" I was Enlisted and proud of it! It didn't > take an Act of Congress to make me a gentleman. LOL, L-O-L! this is way offtopic, but b

Re: not sure this is the best place, but...

2012-12-02 Thread fred smith
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 05:10:24PM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/02/2012 04:59 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > >yes! [sir!] :-) > > Don't call me "sir!" I was Enlisted and proud of it! It didn't take an > Act of Congress to make me a gentleman. Or as my drill sergeant (Sergeant Dread--no, really!) us

Re: not sure this is the best place, but...

2012-12-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/02/2012 04:59 PM, Gary Kline wrote: yes! [sir!] :-) Don't call me "sir!" I was Enlisted and proud of it! It didn't take an Act of Congress to make me a gentleman. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorapro

Re: not sure this is the best place, but...

2012-12-02 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 04:14:19PM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/02/2012 03:30 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > Another thought is that under gnome, the click program worked. > > any ideas? > > yum provides Xlib > > reveals that you need to install python-xlib. yes! [sir!] :-) * 0.1.

Re: not sure this is the best place, but...

2012-12-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/02/2012 03:30 PM, Gary Kline wrote: Another thought is that under gnome, the click program worked. any ideas? yum provides Xlib reveals that you need to install python-xlib. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

not sure this is the best place, but...

2012-12-02 Thread Gary Kline
guys, I rely on a python script that *I* did not write to make my keys click. {i've already run thru two expensive "clicky" keyboards... .} anyway, my click program no longer works. it cant find "Xlib" I have no clue. so I did a

Re: how-to yum remove gnome anf yum install kde?

2012-12-02 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
GTK is written in C, so you should have no problem with bindings. If your build system complains about dependencies, just pull the relevant developer package (they almost always end with "-devel", for example mypackage-devel). Best, Christopher Svanefalk mob: +46762628251 skype: csvanefalk On

Re: how-to yum remove gnome anf yum install kde?

2012-12-02 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 12:46:38PM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/02/2012 12:35 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > Is there a way of installing parts of Gnome? > > If you know what parts you need, have yum install them. (And, of > course, any dependencies.) > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fed

Re: how-to yum remove gnome anf yum install kde?

2012-12-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/02/2012 12:35 PM, Gary Kline wrote: Is there a way of installing parts of Gnome? If you know what parts you need, have yum install them. (And, of course, any dependencies.) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https:

Re: how-to yum remove gnome anf yum install kde?

2012-12-02 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
Yes, when you are doing a group install (say, of GNOME) via Yum you are only pulling a pre-grouped set of packages. All these packages are still available on an individual basis, and you can install them individually as needed. Best, Christopher Svanefalk mob: +46762628251 skype: csvanefalk On

Re: Bash - an odd problem using sed or awk or for

2012-12-02 Thread John Horne
On Sat, 2012-12-01 at 23:25 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 21:37 -0700, Greg Woods wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 23:33 +, John Horne wrote: > > > > > (the '=' are not part of the variable) > > > abc def > > > > > > hijk > > > xyz > > > >

Re: how-to yum remove gnome anf yum install kde?

2012-12-02 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 01:25:30PM +0100, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > While a complete reinstall probably is the desired way to go, you can try > to simply install KDE alongside Gnome: > > yum groupinstall "KDE Software Compilation" > > Logout and select KDE as your desktop environment. > > I

Re: Controlling displays with HDMI output

2012-12-02 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/02/2012 10:27 AM, Alex wrote: > How can I switch to Xfce without having to download and reinstall that spin? yum groupinstall Xfce -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Controlling displays with HDMI output

2012-12-02 Thread Brian West
On 12/02/2012 11:27 AM, Alex wrote: Hi, Another problem is with the display size of the HDMI. Are you using the closed source ATI drivers, or the open source radeon driver? For me, only the open source driver works well. The proprietary ATI drivers were designed by utter morons who believe tha

Re: Controlling displays with HDMI output

2012-12-02 Thread Alex
Hi, >> Another problem is with the display size of the HDMI. > > Are you using the closed source ATI drivers, or the open source > radeon driver? For me, only the open source driver works > well. The proprietary ATI drivers were designed by utter morons > who believe that people might be upset if

Re: yum update fails on x86_64 kernel tools and kernel-tools libs x86_64

2012-12-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.12.2012 16:52, schrieb Ralph Blach: > When I try to do a an update of fedora 17, I always get a broken dependency > on kernel-tools.x86_64 0:3.6.8-2.fc17 > kernel-tools-libs.x86_64 0:3.6.8-2.fc17 I have been getting the message > > Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit > R

yum update fails on x86_64 kernel tools and kernel-tools libs x86_64

2012-12-02 Thread Ralph Blach
When I try to do a an update of fedora 17, I always get a broken dependency on kernel-tools.x86_64 0:3.6.8-2.fc17 kernel-tools-libs.x86_64 0:3.6.8-2.fc17 I have been getting the message Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check --->

Preferred CPU model SandyBridge not allowed by hypervisor

2012-12-02 Thread Corinna Vinschen
Hi, Friday I switched one of my machines from an Opteron 2382 based motherboard to a Xeon E5-2640 based one. I'm using this Fedora 17 machine to run my Windows test VMs using qemu-kvm. I changed the Processor configuration setting in virt-manager from Opteron G3 to SandyBridge and now, whenever

Re: how-to yum remove gnome anf yum install kde?

2012-12-02 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
While a complete reinstall probably is the desired way to go, you can try to simply install KDE alongside Gnome: yum groupinstall "KDE Software Compilation" Logout and select KDE as your desktop environment. If you want to get rid of Gnome altogether (which I am not sure I would recommend), you

Re: fedora books

2012-12-02 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/01/2012 06:37 AM, Brian West wrote: > Hello everyone I'd like to hear any suggestions you may have when it > comes to a good book to learn the features of fedora. while there are > countless books that teach you how to use linux in the general way. > each distribution has its own unique se

Re: 3.7 kernels and kswapd

2012-12-02 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 02.12.2012, JD wrote: > But it of course did not understand what I would like to accomplish. mkdir ~/kernel git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git kernel After that, you have a complete copy of Linus' tree. You can keep it up to date by doing a git pu

Re: fedora books

2012-12-02 Thread Hiisi
On 1 December 2012 20:44, NOSpaze wrote: > You will not find a book about the features of some specific laptop > model, car model or mobile phone. The same with a distro. A car differs > to others basically in the way components are assembled. The same with a > distro. They both share the same com