Re: f17 - minimal + gnome :: init 5 does not work

2012-11-25 Thread John Schmitt
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:40:32AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I remembered that on a non-graphical system (actually I did a > graphical install, but changed the runlevel to 3) was just to type > in: > > init 5 > > So I tried it and things seem to just hang. So I rebooted. Probably > need t

kswapd0 consuming 50% of cpu

2012-11-25 Thread JD
Is this normal for the kswapd to consume 50% of cpu? And why would it do that? This is the first time I have seen this. Kernel is kernel-3.6.6-1.fc16 24 root 20 0 000 R 50.1 0.0 117:08.40 kswapd0 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: kernel private key

2012-11-25 Thread JD
On 11/25/2012 11:46 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/26/2012 01:11 AM, JD wrote: I was building kernel 3.7-0.rc6.git.fc19 and during the build I saw this: Generating a 4096 bit RSA private key Only 4096 Is that strong enough Shouldn't it be 8192? :) .++ ..

Re: kernel private key

2012-11-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/26/2012 01:11 AM, JD wrote: I was building kernel 3.7-0.rc6.git.fc19 and during the build I saw this: Generating a 4096 bit RSA private key Only 4096 Is that strong enough Shouldn't it be 8192? :) .++ ...

kernel private key

2012-11-25 Thread JD
I was building kernel 3.7-0.rc6.git.fc19 and during the build I saw this: Generating a 4096 bit RSA private key .++

f17 - minimal + gnome :: init 5 does not work

2012-11-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I remembered that on a non-graphical system (actually I did a graphical install, but changed the runlevel to 3) was just to type in: init 5 So I tried it and things seem to just hang. So I rebooted. Probably need to install more than just gnome on minimal to get gnome? -- users mailing lis

Re: Need help with minimal install on ee701

2012-11-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/26/2012 12:54 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Oh, and what do I install to get semanage? yum whatprovides *bin/semange policycoreutils-python is the answer I believe you seek. -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof progra

Re: Need help with minimal install on ee701

2012-11-25 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 11/26/2012 04:54 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 11/25/2012 11:46 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: >> On 11/26/2012 04:40 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >>> I did the minimal install on my ee701. At least the first attempt. >>> >>> I set my swap at 768Mb, and left /boot at 500Mb (probably could shrin

Re: Need help with minimal install on ee701

2012-11-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/25/2012 11:46 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: On 11/26/2012 04:40 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I did the minimal install on my ee701. At least the first attempt. I set my swap at 768Mb, and left /boot at 500Mb (probably could shrink this next time). This left 2.7Gb for / That swap will be too

Re: Need help with minimal install on ee701

2012-11-25 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 11/26/2012 04:40 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I did the minimal install on my ee701. At least the first attempt. > > I set my swap at 768Mb, and left /boot at 500Mb (probably could shrink > this next time). This left 2.7Gb for / > > That swap will be too small for hibernate > > So a m

Need help with minimal install on ee701

2012-11-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I did the minimal install on my ee701. At least the first attempt. I set my swap at 768Mb, and left /boot at 500Mb (probably could shrink this next time). This left 2.7Gb for / That swap will be too small for hibernate So a minimal install with also selecting Gnome (and deselecting a fe

Re: Disk

2012-11-25 Thread JD
On 11/25/2012 09:27 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: On 11/24/2012 10:27 PM, JD wrote: Here are the values for #197 ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAGS VALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE For sdb: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate POSR-- 117 099 006 - 131606848 197 Current_Pending_Sector -O--C- 100 100 000 - 0 For sdc: 1 Raw_

Re: Iced Tea out of date?

2012-11-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/25/2012 02:58 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: You *authorize* it to run, and it features code signing. Yes, but there's no good reason to streamline the process of authorization over-much. There is no reason to believe that the vast majority of users are qualified to recognize valid digital

Re: Iced Tea out of date?

2012-11-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/25/2012 02:20 PM, Steven Stern wrote: Is this just a Chrome glitch? Yes, mostly: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=138386 Chrome can't detect the version of IcedTea or OpenJDK underlying the IcedTea-web plugin, so there's some concern over how to protect users. -- user

Re: Iced Tea out of date?

2012-11-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > Native code bundled and launched through JNLP is no more secure than > Active X. JNLP is in practice a huge security hole, and should be treated > as such. > You *authorize* it to run, and it features code signing. That is like saying "in

Re: Iced Tea out of date?

2012-11-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/25/2012 02:40 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Chrome is the only browser where launching a Java Web Start app (jnlp) is a totally ugly experience (it brings the download dialog to the foreground)... or did, I stopped using it because of that. To be fair, most JNLP applications include native c

Re: netbook vs tablet

2012-11-25 Thread Bill Davidsen
Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/23/2012 02:56 PM, JD wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Fulko Hew wrote: On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Alan Cox wrote: Fedora 17? The page I reference seems to have F17 working somewhat better than you report. With a keyboard permanently attached ...

Re: Iced Tea out of date?

2012-11-25 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Steven Stern < subscribed-li...@sterndata.com> wrote: > > Is this just a Chrome glitch? Google is anti-Java (JRE at least) and Chrome is anti-Java. I despise them for that. Chrome is the only browser where launching a Java Web Start app (jnlp) is a totally ugly

Iced Tea out of date?

2012-11-25 Thread Steven Stern
I just hit a website that has a java plugin and Chrome displayed a big box with "Iced Tea is Out of Date". It seems that I have icedtea-web-1.3.1-1.fc17.x86_64 and java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.9-2.3.3.fc17.1.x86_64 installed. Is this just a Chrome glitch? -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@l

Re: Using HDMI with Radeon and fc17

2012-11-25 Thread Alex
Hi, >> What is the native resolution of the HDTV? As far as I know, Xorg >> defaults to an extend display setup when booted with multiple displays >> connected. Also it doesn't do well with unequally sized displays. I'm >> thinking maybe the HDTV resolution is much larger than the two regular >

Re: Brother HL5250 vs. Cups

2012-11-25 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 09:57 -0500, Garry T. Williams wrote: > On Saturday, November 24, 2012 19:11:59 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Frequently when I try to print double sided to this printer I get a > > single page reading: > > > > ERROR NAME; > > stackunderflow > > COMMA

Re: SCP problem -

2012-11-25 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 11/25/2012 02:15 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA writes: > >> >> Is there something wrong with this command? >> >> [root@box9 simple]# scp -r bobg@box8:/home/bobg/ >> /run/media/bobg/Simple/Box8BkU >> >> I would like to copy the contents [roughly 44G per du -

Re: Disk

2012-11-25 Thread Robert Nichols
On 11/24/2012 10:27 PM, JD wrote: Here are the values for #197 ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAGS VALUE WORST THRESH FAIL RAW_VALUE For sdb: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate POSR-- 117 099 006 - 131606848 197 Current_Pending_Sector -O--C- 100 100 000 - 0 For sdc: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate POSR-- 114 069 006 - 80733495 19

Re: Brother HL5250 vs. Cups

2012-11-25 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Saturday, November 24, 2012 19:11:59 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > Frequently when I try to print double sided to this printer I get a > single page reading: > > ERROR NAME; > stackunderflow > COMMAND; > pop > OPERAND STACK; > > Has anyone else seen th

Re: ifcfg-* need fail on no ipv4 address

2012-11-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/25/2012 06:05 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > What line do I place in ifcfg-* > to make sure eth* fails if ipv4 isn't resolved. > > > I have IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=yes in one of my ifcfg-* . I'm assuming NM put it there So, that would seem reasonable -- Programming today is a race

Re: Using HDMI with Radeon and fc17

2012-11-25 Thread Alan Cox
> What is the native resolution of the HDTV? As far as I know, Xorg > defaults to an extend display setup when booted with multiple displays > connected. Also it doesn't do well with unequally sized displays. I'm > thinking maybe the HDTV resolution is much larger than the two regular > displays

ifcfg-* need fail on no ipv4 address

2012-11-25 Thread Frank Murphy
What line do I place in ifcfg-* to make sure eth* fails if ipv4 isn't resolved. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidel

Re: Using HDMI with Radeon and fc17

2012-11-25 Thread Suvayu Ali
Disclaimer: I have never used HDMI with Fedora myself. On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:27:43PM -0500, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I have a new fc17 x86_64 install with a Radeon HD5700 and the default > xorg drivers included with fc17. I have an HDTV connected to the HDMI > port and two monitors connected to