Re: LIST-MODERATION ... Re: Purge old eth1, add new nic as eth0

2012-10-16 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Roger wrote: > On 10/17/2012 05:27 AM, David wrote: >> >> On 10/16/2012 1:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> >>> On 10/16/2012 07:52 AM, David wrote: I find it odd that moderators feel the need to have to apologize to someone that complains about being moder

Re: how to disable "unset HISTORY"

2012-10-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/15/2012 11:52 PM, Tiziana Manfroni wrote: If it is not possible, what can I do? Enable the auditing system. Everything else can be trivially disabled or evaded. SuSE actually has some fair documentation for this: http://doc.opensuse.org/products/draft/SLES/SLES-security_sd_draft/cha.a

Re: how to disable "unset HISTORY"

2012-10-16 Thread JD
On 10/16/2012 05:06 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 10/16/2012 02:52 AM, Tiziana Manfroni wrote: Hi, I have some users that delete .history file (in tcsh shell), so I can't see their commands. Can I disable the command "unset history"? If it is not possible, what can I do? Thanks in advance Tizia

Re: how to disable "unset HISTORY"

2012-10-16 Thread JD
On 10/16/2012 05:52 PM, JD wrote: On 10/16/2012 05:06 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 10/16/2012 02:52 AM, Tiziana Manfroni wrote: Hi, I have some users that delete .history file (in tcsh shell), so I can't see their commands. Can I disable the command "unset history"? If it is not possible, what

Re: how to disable "unset HISTORY"

2012-10-16 Thread JD
On 10/16/2012 05:06 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 10/16/2012 02:52 AM, Tiziana Manfroni wrote: Hi, I have some users that delete .history file (in tcsh shell), so I can't see their commands. Can I disable the command "unset history"? If it is not possible, what can I do? Thanks in advance Tizia

Re: process group display?

2012-10-16 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 10/16/2012 12:13 PM, Jack Craig wrote: Hi Folks, Some you may have used the tree cmd to provide an ascii output of a directory/file tree. is anyone aware of a similar tool, but to display a 'tree' of a process group? eg, a process group leader with sub processes display? tia, jackc...

Re: Looking for budget Fedora VPS

2012-10-16 Thread Steven Stern
On 10/16/2012 01:19 PM, Patrick Kobly wrote: > I'm pretty happy with chicagovps.net... > > PK > > -Original message- > From: valent.turko...@gmail.com > Sent: Tue 16-10-2012 12:09 > Subject: Looking for budget Fedora VPS > To: Community support for Fedora users ; >> Are there any

Re: how to disable "unset HISTORY"

2012-10-16 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 10/16/2012 02:52 AM, Tiziana Manfroni wrote: Hi, I have some users that delete .history file (in tcsh shell), so I can't see their commands. Can I disable the command "unset history"? If it is not possible, what can I do? Thanks in advance Tiziana If you are creative with scripting you may

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-16 Thread JD
On 10/16/2012 02:27 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 16.10.2012 04:58, schrieb JD: I googled this and came across 2 purported solutions, neither of which worked. 1. Uninstall package biosdevname and reboot. That did not prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1. 2. Add the line biosdevname=0 to /bo

Re: LIST-MODERATION ... Re: Purge old eth1, add new nic as eth0

2012-10-16 Thread Roger
On 10/17/2012 05:27 AM, David wrote: On 10/16/2012 1:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/16/2012 07:52 AM, David wrote: I find it odd that moderators feel the need to have to apologize to someone that complains about being moderated that violated the rules on a fairly open list badly enough to be mode

Re: Contact list for KDE user?

2012-10-16 Thread Timothy Murphy
Lailah wrote: >> As far as I can see, KAddressBook/Kontact has become >> completely non-functional, >> with entered contacts being entirely invisible >> except when exported as a CSV list. > Did you try another PIM application? May be > Thunderbird with the calendar extension (L

Suggestion for F19

2012-10-16 Thread Joe Zeff
I've just joined the Fedora Project and, after a fair amount of fumbling around, managed to add Bernhardt as a suggestion to the bottom of the list at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_19#Suggestion_Table As a comment, it wasn't at all obvious that the only way to do t

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 01:56:51PM -0600, JD wrote: > What a useless package that does not solve anything, but creates new > problems for everyone. That's really not the case. It may not solve anything for *you*, but it does address a real problem. Maybe not perfectly, but we can fix the bugs.

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-16 Thread JD
On 10/16/2012 01:17 PM, sirdeiu wrote: I just edited 71-biosdevname.rules in /lib/udev/rules.d, where line 15 contains: *GOTO="netdevicename_end"* Basically just uncomment it like the instruction above it said. Then all my NIC's are named ethX. Also name them accordingly in your /etc/sysc

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:18:54 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > We backported biosdevname > from Fedora into CentOS and solved our problem. Just don't backport any biosdevname updates or the "immutable" names will change :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chang

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-16 Thread Bill Shirley
On 10/16/2012 2:16 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/16/2012 11:13 AM, Bill Shirley wrote: PS. See how cool I am? I said boxen and interwebz. :-) Well, you were right up to the point where you pointed it out. Sorry, but you're still just a PFY. But..., but..., I use da cloud and program Web 2.0!

Re: LIST-MODERATION ... Re: Purge old eth1, add new nic as eth0

2012-10-16 Thread David
On 10/16/2012 1:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/16/2012 07:52 AM, David wrote: >> I find it odd that moderators feel the need to have to apologize to >> someone that complains about being moderated that violated the rules on >> a fairly open list badly enough to be moderated. > > Actually, they wer

RE: Looking for budget Fedora VPS

2012-10-16 Thread Patrick Kobly
I'm pretty happy with chicagovps.net... PK -Original message- From: valent.turko...@gmail.com Sent: Tue 16-10-2012 12:09 Subject:Looking for budget Fedora VPS To: Community support for Fedora users ; > Are there any good Fedora budget VPS hosting companies? I found few bu

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 02:13:21PM -0400, Bill Shirley wrote: > I tried the new names on three servers and didn't like it. On one On the other side: at my last job, we had a number of servers with multiple network cards, with a mix of Broadcom and Intel. It was very frustrating to get systems con

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/16/2012 11:13 AM, Bill Shirley wrote: PS. See how cool I am? I said boxen and interwebz. :-) Well, you were right up to the point where you pointed it out. Sorry, but you're still just a PFY. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription o

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-16 Thread Bill Shirley
On 10/16/2012 4:27 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 16.10.2012 04:58, schrieb JD: I googled this and came across 2 purported solutions, neither of which worked. 1. Uninstall package biosdevname and reboot. That did not prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1. 2. Add the line biosdevname=0 to /boo

Re: LIST-MODERATION ... Re: Purge old eth1, add new nic as eth0

2012-10-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/16/2012 07:52 AM, David wrote: I find it odd that moderators feel the need to have to apologize to someone that complains about being moderated that violated the rules on a fairly open list badly enough to be moderated. Actually, they were apologizing to the entire list because they weren

Re: process group display?

2012-10-16 Thread Kevin Martin
On 10/16/12 11:24, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On 10/16/2012 05:21 PM, Jack Craig wrote: >> Thx! I knew there had to be a solution, ... > > I'm also a big fan of ps ax --forest - it retains the ps fields while > still giving you an asciigram of the process tree: > > $ ps ax --forest > PID TTY

Re: Wanted, one complete, concise Samba setup HOWTO

2012-10-16 Thread Robert Myers
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Doug wrote: > > I second that. I have been searching for a simple instruction on > how to set up a peer-to-peer network that includes Windows > (Win 7 and XP) and Linux, and does so in plain English. My > Win 7 knows there is a printer attached to my Linux machin

Re: process group display?

2012-10-16 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 10/16/2012 05:21 PM, Jack Craig wrote: > Thx! I knew there had to be a solution, ... I'm also a big fan of ps ax --forest - it retains the ps fields while still giving you an asciigram of the process tree: $ ps ax --forest PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 2 ?S 0:00 [kthreadd

Re: process group display?

2012-10-16 Thread Jack Craig
Thx! I knew there had to be a solution, ... On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Jack Craig wrote: > >> is anyone aware of a similar tool, but to display a 'tree' of a process >> group? >> >> eg, a process group leader with sub processes display? >> > > $ pstree > > :) >

Re: process group display?

2012-10-16 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jack Craig wrote: is anyone aware of a similar tool, but to display a 'tree' of a process group? eg, a process group leader with sub processes display? $ pstree :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.or

process group display?

2012-10-16 Thread Jack Craig
Hi Folks, Some you may have used the tree cmd to provide an ascii output of a directory/file tree. is anyone aware of a similar tool, but to display a 'tree' of a process group? eg, a process group leader with sub processes display? tia, jackc... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: how to disable "unset HISTORY"

2012-10-16 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 10/16/2012 11:50 AM, Alan Cox wrote: >> You can turn on "BSD Process Accounting" (which is in the kernel for >> Fedora) in the system profile. This causes the kernel to dump a record >> for each process spawned into the system logs. You will want to install >> and use a tool to analyze the log

Re: Wanted, one complete, concise Samba setup HOWTO

2012-10-16 Thread Doug
On 10/16/2012 06:05 AM, linux guy wrote: Once again I am trying to set up Samba for access by Linux and Windows machines and once again I am experiencing issues. The biggest issue being the dreaded "Access Denied" error when trying to open the share from Dolphin, though Samba4K does the same th

Re: how to disable "unset HISTORY"

2012-10-16 Thread Alan Cox
> You can turn on "BSD Process Accounting" (which is in the kernel for > Fedora) in the system profile. This causes the kernel to dump a record > for each process spawned into the system logs. You will want to install > and use a tool to analyze the logs and keep them to a reasonable size. BSD a

Re: how to disable "unset HISTORY"

2012-10-16 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
On 10/16/2012 06:03 AM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On 10/16/2012 07:52 AM, Tiziana Manfroni wrote: >> Hi, I have some users that delete .history file (in tcsh shell), so I >> can't see their commands. >> Can I disable the command "unset history"? >> If it is not possible, what can I do? > > You can'

Re: Weather App

2012-10-16 Thread Jack Craig
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Lawrence Graves wrote: > An update to the weather app used in gnome-shell was introduced in the > testing area but it does not work. Does anyone know if there is a bug > report filed for this problem. It works for every area but Aurora, Co. who > uses yahoo.com fo

Re: Contact list for KDE user?

2012-10-16 Thread Lailah
El lun, 15-10-2012 a las 16:02 +0100, Timothy Murphy escribió: > As far as I can see, KAddressBook/Kontact has become > completely non-functional, > with entered contacts being entirely invisible > except when exported as a CSV list. > > In my experience, KAddressBook has always been pretty bad

Re: LIST-MODERATION ... Re: Purge old eth1, add new nic as eth0

2012-10-16 Thread David
On 10/16/2012 7:38 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> FIRST: >> if list-owners decide to moderate DO IT >> >> it makes NO SENSE to release posts after many days >> while a thread has passed many steps > > As one of the list moderators, I recently

Weather App

2012-10-16 Thread Lawrence Graves
An update to the weather app used in gnome-shell was introduced in the testing area but it does not work. Does anyone know if there is a bug report filed for this problem. It works for every area but Aurora, Co. who uses yahoo.com for their weather code source. -- All things are workable but do

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.10.2012 04:58, schrieb JD: > I googled this and came across 2 purported > solutions, neither of which worked. > 1. Uninstall package biosdevname and reboot. > > That did not prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1. > > 2. Add the line > biosdevname=0 > to /boot/grub2/grub.cfg > > That di

Re: how to disable "unset HISTORY"

2012-10-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.10.2012 08:52, schrieb Tiziana Manfroni: > Hi, I have some users that delete .history file (in tcsh shell), so I can't > see their commands. > Can I disable the command "unset history"? > If it is not possible, what can I do? nothing, the file is writeable for the user so if "unset" doe s

Re: why is a .txt file being run as a php script?

2012-10-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.10.2012 04:43, schrieb Tim: > On Mon, 2012-10-08 at 20:18 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> apache/php is not interesed at all in execute-flags > > Not quite true. The execute flag can be used by Apache, as a way of > having it parse a file for SSI tags. It can, also, look at the filename >

Re: LIST-MODERATION ... Re: Purge old eth1, add new nic as eth0

2012-10-16 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > FIRST: > if list-owners decide to moderate DO IT > > it makes NO SENSE to release posts after many days > while a thread has passed many steps As one of the list moderators, I recently returned from vacation to find that many messages piled

Re: how to disable "unset HISTORY"

2012-10-16 Thread Alan Cox
> Recent versions of bash can also be compiled with syslog support by > defining SYSLOG_HISTORY but if your users are hooked on tcsh that > probably won't help (I don't think it's enabled in the Fedora builds > anyway). And any remotely malicious intending user will simply go into vi, set the vi s

Re: keyboard failure that doesn't seem to be hardware

2012-10-16 Thread Bob Marcan
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:20:35 -0700 Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 10/15/2012 4:00 PM, Bob Marcan wrote: > > It was occured to me on F16 several times. > > Killing X restores the keyboard. > > Reading this thread tried with holding shift key 20+ seconds restores > > too. > > It shouldn't be tied to

Re: how to disable "unset HISTORY"

2012-10-16 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 10/16/2012 07:52 AM, Tiziana Manfroni wrote: > Hi, I have some users that delete .history file (in tcsh shell), so I > can't see their commands. > Can I disable the command "unset history"? > If it is not possible, what can I do? You can't really prevent a user from altering their environment