Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/19/2012 08:46 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: I vote for using Genesis albums and/or song names. For instance, how about "Fedora 18: Land of Confusion" (suppose a radical Gnome 4.0 comes along ;-P). Or "Fedora 19: I can't dance". Fedora 20: Invisible Touch Over twenty years ago, some SF fans s

Strange application lockups

2012-07-19 Thread Emmett Culley
Sometime after the first or second update to Fedora 17 I started noticing that Firefox, Thunderbird, Chrome and Gkrellm would stop updating their screens. It starts off slowly, in that first I notice one of the above apps doesn't paint immediately after switching to the desktop where that app i

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 00:46:41 -0300 Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > Seriously, I always thought that Fedora 18's code name should be a > > celebration of Life. > > I vote for using Genesis albums and/or song names. For instance, how > about "Fedora

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > Seriously, I always thought that Fedora 18's code name should be a > celebration of Life. I vote for using Genesis albums and/or song names. For instance, how about "Fedora 18: Land of Confusion" (suppose a radical Gnome 4.0 comes along ;-P). Or

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I
On 07/19/2012 09:40 PM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Eddie: Don't be shy, and tell us why you don't like it. Not only just nay or yay 2012/7/20 Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I : On 07/19/2012 08:52 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Agreed! Whatever be it, let us stick to something and not move with the wind.Non

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Eddie: Don't be shy, and tell us why you don't like it. Not only just nay or yay 2012/7/20 Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I : > > On 07/19/2012 08:52 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >> >> Agreed! Whatever be it, let us stick to something and not move with the >> wind.Nonsensical names like Beefy Miracle and

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/20/2012 06:22 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Btw, unrelated, but Ubuntu (which I have always disliked, except for > their artwork) has degenerated even furtherI hear that hibernate is > no longer supported in latest releases/updates because it has become too > complicated to support.I do

Re: Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora by opensuse

2012-07-19 Thread Abdel G . Martínez L .
It is a interesting contribution. I will try it out and post about it. 2012/7/19 Ed Greshko > On 07/20/2012 09:32 AM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote: > > > > On 07/19/2012 09:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >>> On 07/20/2012 09:09 AM, Edward M wrote: > hello, > > Interesting seeing opensu

Re: Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora by opensuse

2012-07-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/20/2012 09:32 AM, Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote: > > On 07/19/2012 09:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 07/20/2012 09:09 AM, Edward M wrote: hello, Interesting seeing opensuse producing Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora 17? http://download.opensuse.org/repo

Re: Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora by opensuse

2012-07-19 Thread Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I
On 07/19/2012 09:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/20/2012 09:09 AM, Edward M wrote: hello, Interesting seeing opensuse producing Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora 17? http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Ayatana/Fedora_17/ http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GNOME_Ayatana Oh..

Re: Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora by opensuse

2012-07-19 Thread Edward M
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/20/2012 09:09 AM, Edward M wrote: >> hello, >> >> Interesting seeing opensuse producing Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for >> fedora 17? >> >> >> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Ayatana/Fedora_17/ > http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GNOME_Ayatana > thanks for

Re: How to start qalculate-kde and/or kruler minimized to tray

2012-07-19 Thread Rex Dieter
Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > How can qalculate-kde and/or kruler be started minimized in the KDE > tray? kstart --iconify qalculate-kde kstart --iconify kruler -- rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora by opensuse

2012-07-19 Thread Ed Greshko
> On 07/20/2012 09:09 AM, Edward M wrote: >> hello, >> >> Interesting seeing opensuse producing Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for >> fedora 17? >> >> >> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Ayatana/Fedora_17/ > http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GNOME_Ayatana > > Oh http://www.omgubunt

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I
On 07/19/2012 08:52 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Agreed! Whatever be it, let us stick to something and not move with the wind.Nonsensical names like Beefy Miracle and Spherical Cow add to frivolity and should be discarded at the submission stage.btw, we should not ignore the orient in the na

Re: Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora by opensuse

2012-07-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/20/2012 09:09 AM, Edward M wrote: > hello, > > Interesting seeing opensuse producing Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for > fedora 17? > > > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Ayatana/Fedora_17/ http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:GNOME_Ayatana -- Never be afraid to laugh at yoursel

Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora by opensuse

2012-07-19 Thread Edward M
hello, Interesting seeing opensuse producing Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora 17? http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/Ayatana/Fedora_17/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Agreed! Whatever be it, let us stick to something and not move with the wind.Nonsensical names like Beefy Miracle and Spherical Cow add to frivolity and should be discarded at the submission stage.btw, we should not ignore the orient in the naming too Btw, unrelated, but Ubuntu (which

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
I think with naming we should build marketing-concept art-creativity to the top of it, and after all we are an bleeding edge distro - we should use famous scientists, explorers, writers, inventors. Without those people we could be less onour world, and they are tried - made it. We can represent big

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Caitlyn O'Hanna
I love the idea of using scientists, explorers, writers (not just sci-fi), artists...anything really that pushes the boundaries of the human experience...and not just people, Leonidas was a (or several really) ship too. Also, I would have to say that so far my favourite Fedora artwork is from Vern

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Ranjan Maitra
I like the idea of naming Fedora releases after scientists. There is very little closer to the idea of open-source than scientists who have done quality peer-reviewed work and also been open about their ideas and shortcomings. Certainly far more than Beefy Miracle or whatever. Ranjan On Thu,

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I
On 07/19/2012 03:13 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: I always thought that Fedora 18's code name should be a celebration of Life. Fedora 18 Tent Pole celebrating life outdoors FC Or you could go with a type of "code" that only really die-hard Fed

Re: Is Gnome becoming a Microsoft project?

2012-07-19 Thread Veeti Paananen
On 07/04/2012 09:06 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz > wrote: >> Java? This fat and ugly pig? Must be a joke. Gnome should focus on C/C++ >> with Vala and Python as supporting languages. > > Yeah, such a fat and ugly pig that great software like V

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
I think this beefy miracle, and the spherical cow - made an radical step that grabs attention, and everybody wants to know our system. I think we can simply use discoverers, scientists to respect before them - and they are reachable all over in many themes. What do you think? 2012/7/20 Caitlyn O'H

Re: HOWTO update F17 machine with no internet access

2012-07-19 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Hi guys, I have tried, and used it several times. You have to install gnome-packagekit-extra - and you receive an small util that able to collect dependencies for an computer. The key is - that both computer must have this tiny util, to generate lists, and the diff will be the update in one single

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Caitlyn O'Hanna
As "suit-and-tie" as some may view it, I'd rather have "$distro $relver" than "$distro $relver $somestupidname-yes-im-talking-to-you-beefy-miracle" What happened to the days of having names like Leonidas and Verne? Maybe include in the rules that it needs to be slightly more relevant than "beey mi

Re: HOWTO update F17 machine with no internet access

2012-07-19 Thread suvayu ali
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Mark Haney wrote: > I'm sure this has been answered before, but I'm having trouble finding it. > Mainly due to the fact I'm not entirely sure what to search for. Anyway, > I've got a F17 system, which, for various reasons, does not have internet > access. It does

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Phil Dobbin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fedora 18: `grubby fatal error unable to find a suitable template' Cheers, Phil... - -- currently (ab)using CentOS 6.2, Debian Squeeze, Fedora Beefy, OS X Snow Leopard, Ubuntu Precise -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17

Re: Hard drive not mounting

2012-07-19 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/19/2012 03:08 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson mailto:mellert...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/08/2012 11:27 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: > >>

Re: Hard drive not mounting

2012-07-19 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/08/2012 11:27 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: > >> > > same usb stick is mounted properly if conencted to the other USB > > ports of same computer (but not on the hub) > > > Dumb

Re: SELinux on Fedora 17 - troubles, troubles, troubles, ...

2012-07-19 Thread David Quigley
There was a write up on sharing home directories with samba that someone had posted on google+. http://rogue-technology.com/blog/?p=1601 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guide

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/19/2012 12:09 PM, Don Levey wrote: On 7/19/2012 15:06, Joe Zeff wrote: You mean like "Beefy Miracle?" Seriously, I always thought that Fedora 18's code name should be a celebration of Life. Two brownie points to the first person to figure out why. You mean apart from the "18 = Chai (H

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > I always thought that Fedora 18's code name should be a celebration of Life. Fedora 18 Tent Pole celebrating life outdoors FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedo

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Don Levey
On 7/19/2012 15:06, Joe Zeff wrote: > > You mean like "Beefy Miracle?" Seriously, I always thought that Fedora > 18's code name should be a celebration of Life. Two brownie points to > the first person to figure out why. You mean apart from the "18 = Chai (Hebrew) = Life (English)" thing? -Don

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/19/2012 11:46 AM, David Boles wrote: My only comment is to*please* don't choose to use really stupid names like Ubuntu uses. You mean like "Beefy Miracle?" Seriously, I always thought that Fedora 18's code name should be a celebration of Life. Two brownie points to the first person t

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:29:29 -0400 DJ Delorie wrote: > > > You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message > > has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages > > are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at > > advisory-board-ow...@lists.fe

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread David Boles
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Eric Christensen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > The Fedora Board is soliciting ideas for how to name Fedora releases > from community members. Proposals should be sent to the Advisory > Board list[0][1] no later than 16:00 UTC on 25

Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.

2012-07-19 Thread DJ Delorie
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Re: HOWTO update F17 machine with no internet access

2012-07-19 Thread James Wilkinson
Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Pick your favorite mirror, and rsync its updates directly, to a flash drive, > or something similar. Set enabled=0 in everything in /etc/yum.conf.d, then > just copy one of the configs and point it to the mount point of the flash > drive. Aaron Konstam asked: > What

How to start qalculate-kde and/or kruler minimized to tray

2012-07-19 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
How can qalculate-kde and/or kruler be started minimized in the KDE tray? Running KDE-4.8.4 under Fedora-17. Thanks - jon -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http:/

Re: Hard drive not mounting

2012-07-19 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/08/2012 11:27 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: >> > same usb stick is mounted properly if conencted to the other USB > ports of same computer (but not on the hub) > Dumb question - does the hub have its own power supply, or is it powered by the US

Re: Gnome 3 Copy Progress Bar

2012-07-19 Thread Dokuro
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 09:01 -0430, Dokuro wrote: >> I made a similar observation, where the file being copied was not over >> but the progress bar disappeared, you could still notice activity on >> the USB drive and if unmounted a dialog would show up,

Re: SELinux on Fedora 17 - troubles, troubles, troubles, ...

2012-07-19 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 07/19/2012 04:24 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: Why is using of SELinux on Fedora (I don't have experience with other distros) so painful from a regular user perspective? I'm talking about situation in which after installing stock packages and "just running" applications I'm spending more ti

Re: HOWTO update F17 machine with no internet access

2012-07-19 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2012-07-19 at 08:27 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Mark Haney writes: > > > I'm sure this has been answered before, but I'm having trouble finding it. > > > > Mainly due to the fact I'm not entirely sure what to search for. Anyway, > > I've got a F17 system, which, for various reas

Re: F17 External Monitor on 945GM

2012-07-19 Thread Philippe LeCavalier
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Mark Haney wrote: > On 07/19/2012 09:38 AM, Philippe LeCavalier wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Mark Haney > > > >> You likely missed that I mentioned I can Fn+F5 to get single output to >> the monitor. So yes, it does work. >> -- >> >> Doh! I didn'

Re: F17 External Monitor on 945GM

2012-07-19 Thread Mark Haney
On 07/19/2012 09:38 AM, Philippe LeCavalier wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Mark Haney You likely missed that I mentioned I can Fn+F5 to get single output to the monitor. So yes, it does work. -- Doh! I didn't miss that part, just misread it. My bad. -- Mark Haney Software Dev

Re: SELinux on Fedora 17 - troubles, troubles, troubles, ...

2012-07-19 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/19/2012 05:24 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > Why is using of SELinux on Fedora (I don't have experience with other > distros) so painful from a regular user perspective? > > I'm talking about situation in which after installing stock package

Re: F17 External Monitor on 945GM

2012-07-19 Thread Philippe LeCavalier
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Mark Haney wrote: > On 07/19/2012 09:14 AM, Philippe LeCavalier wrote: > >> Hi Everyone. >> > > >> Sorry about rambling on so much, just trying to give as many details as >> possible. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in >> advance. >> >> -

Re: F17 External Monitor on 945GM

2012-07-19 Thread Mark Haney
On 07/19/2012 09:14 AM, Philippe LeCavalier wrote: Hi Everyone. Sorry about rambling on so much, just trying to give as many details as possible. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance. -- For the sake of argument, have you verified that the external port on

Re: SELinux on Fedora 17 - troubles, troubles, troubles, ...

2012-07-19 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > > You do understand that ranting (as opposed to reporting bugs / sending > > fixes / etc) will get you nowhere, right? > > > > - Gilboa > > I also do understand that reporting a bug for each problem with selinux > I encounter in my sys

F17 External Monitor on 945GM

2012-07-19 Thread Philippe LeCavalier
Hi Everyone. First post...Just switched to this project after years of using another distro. It's been a few months now and I'm on my third laptop; it's been a rough year ;) Whenever possible, I like to connect to an external monitor. This worked very well in F16 on my Dell w/nvidia. Then the inv

Re: HOWTO update F17 machine with no internet access

2012-07-19 Thread Mark Haney
On 07/19/2012 08:27 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Mark Haney writes: Pick your favorite mirror, and rsync its updates directly, to a flash drive, or something similar. Set enabled=0 in everything in /etc/yum.conf.d, then just copy one of the configs and point it to the mount point of the flash dri

Re: yum check-update: meaning of exclamation marks

2012-07-19 Thread Germán A. Racca
On 07/19/2012 04:30 AM, Markus Schönhaber wrote: Hi, today I noticed this: | # yum check-update | Geladene Plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit | adobe-linux-x86_64 | 951 B 00:00 | google-chrome| 951 B 00:00 !

Re: SELinux on Fedora 17 - troubles, troubles, troubles, ...

2012-07-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:11:12 +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: I also do understand that reporting a bug for each problem with selinux I encounter in my system isn't going anywhere too. I'd also like to use this valuable security mechanism. In my experience the selinux people in Fedora

Re: HOWTO update F17 machine with no internet access

2012-07-19 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Mark Haney writes: I'm sure this has been answered before, but I'm having trouble finding it. Mainly due to the fact I'm not entirely sure what to search for. Anyway, I've got a F17 system, which, for various reasons, does not have internet access. It does sit on a small wireless LAN, how

Re: Raid 1/10 on Fedora 15 and /var full

2012-07-19 Thread Mat Kovach
Aero Maxx wrote: > On 19/07/2012 11:08, Ed Greshko wrote: > >On 07/19/2012 06:00 PM, Aero Maxx wrote: > >>I have a raid 1/10 setup working great doing what it does, but the /var > >>partition > >>which I wasn't aware of until now is where my mysql database are stored and > >>this > >>isn't on the

HOWTO update F17 machine with no internet access

2012-07-19 Thread Mark Haney
I'm sure this has been answered before, but I'm having trouble finding it. Mainly due to the fact I'm not entirely sure what to search for. Anyway, I've got a F17 system, which, for various reasons, does not have internet access. It does sit on a small wireless LAN, however. What I need is a

Re: Gnome 3 Copy Progress Bar

2012-07-19 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 09:01 -0430, Dokuro wrote: > I made a similar observation, where the file being copied was not over > but the progress bar disappeared, you could still notice activity on > the USB drive and if unmounted a dialog would show up, with no > progress bar, that there where still jo

Re: Raid 1/10 on Fedora 15 and /var full

2012-07-19 Thread Aero Maxx
On 19/07/2012 11:08, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/19/2012 06:00 PM, Aero Maxx wrote: I have a raid 1/10 setup working great doing what it does, but the /var partition which I wasn't aware of until now is where my mysql database are stored and this isn't on the raid 10, thats not that much of an issu

Re: SELinux on Fedora 17 - troubles, troubles, troubles, ...

2012-07-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 19.07.2012 11:40, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz > wrote: >> Why is using of SELinux on Fedora (I don't have experience with other >> distros) so painful from a regular user perspective? >> >> I'm talking about situation in which after installing s

Re: Raid 1/10 on Fedora 15 and /var full

2012-07-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/19/2012 06:00 PM, Aero Maxx wrote: > I have a raid 1/10 setup working great doing what it does, but the /var > partition > which I wasn't aware of until now is where my mysql database are stored and > this > isn't on the raid 10, thats not that much of an issue, I would be gutted if I > lo

Raid 1/10 on Fedora 15 and /var full

2012-07-19 Thread Aero Maxx
Hi Everyone, I have a raid 1/10 setup working great doing what it does, but the /var partition which I wasn't aware of until now is where my mysql database are stored and this isn't on the raid 10, thats not that much of an issue, I would be gutted if I lost the data though, but the main issue

Re: SELinux on Fedora 17 - troubles, troubles, troubles, ...

2012-07-19 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > Why is using of SELinux on Fedora (I don't have experience with other > distros) so painful from a regular user perspective? > > I'm talking about situation in which after installing stock packages and > "just running" applications I'

SELinux on Fedora 17 - troubles, troubles, troubles, ...

2012-07-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
Why is using of SELinux on Fedora (I don't have experience with other distros) so painful from a regular user perspective? I'm talking about situation in which after installing stock packages and "just running" applications I'm spending more time with SELInux Alert Browser than any other system ma

yum check-update: meaning of exclamation marks

2012-07-19 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Hi, today I noticed this: | # yum check-update | Geladene Plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit | adobe-linux-x86_64 | 951 B 00:00 | google-chrome| 951 B 00:00 !!! [...] What is the meaning of the exclamation ma

Re: Make external hard drive accessible to all users

2012-07-19 Thread Pasha R
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Pasha R wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Veli-Pekka Kestilä >> wrote: >>> >>> On 13.7.2012 23:39, Rick Stevens wrote: On 07/13/2012 01:25 PM, Pasha R issued this missive:: > > > F17 introduced a chang