Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 11:47 PM, Edward M. wrote: On 03/17/2012 06:40 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: come back with "No usable disks have been found" Have you tried booting to desktop with the livecd and issue 'fdisk -l' as root from the terminal to see if it detects any drives.? Edward: Than

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Edward M .
On 03/17/2012 06:40 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: come back with "No usable disks have been found" Have you tried booting to desktop with the livecd and issue 'fdisk -l' as root from the terminal to see if it detects any drives.? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 11:09 PM, Pete Travis wrote: On Mar 18, 2012 12:04 AM, "Paul Allen Newell" > wrote: > > On 3/17/2012 10:50 PM, Pete Travis wrote: >> >> >> On Mar 17, 2012 11:37 PM, "T.C. Hollingsworth" mailto:tchollingswo...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 17

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Pete Travis
On Mar 18, 2012 12:04 AM, "Paul Allen Newell" wrote: > > On 3/17/2012 10:50 PM, Pete Travis wrote: >> >> >> On Mar 17, 2012 11:37 PM, "T.C. Hollingsworth" wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> > > On 3/17/2012 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> > >> On 03/18/2

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 10:50 PM, Pete Travis wrote: On Mar 17, 2012 11:37 PM, "T.C. Hollingsworth" mailto:tchollingswo...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Paul Allen Newell mailto:pnew...@cs.cmu.edu>> wrote: > > On 3/17/2012 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 03/18/2012 12:49

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Pete Travis
On Mar 17, 2012 11:37 PM, "T.C. Hollingsworth" wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > On 3/17/2012 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 03/18/2012 12:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > >>> > >>> Though I appreciate the suggestion, I can't get any further progress o

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 10:37 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 3/17/2012 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/18/2012 12:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Though I appreciate the suggestion, I can't get any further progress once I do the install to ha

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 3/17/2012 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 03/18/2012 12:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >>> >>> Though I appreciate the suggestion, I can't get any further progress once >>> I do the >>> install to hard drive option ... its does the

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/18/2012 12:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Though I appreciate the suggestion, I can't get any further progress once I do the install to hard drive option ... its does the same "No usable disks" message (and therefore no option to try anything). I

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 8:03 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: I have an install DVD that I used to do a fresh install of F16 onto a i386/686 machine. I then used it to do a fresh install of a second machine. Midway through the formatting/partitioning, it "popped up a bug". When I reported it, it pointed me to 743

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/18/2012 12:49 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Though I appreciate the suggestion, I can't get any further progress once I > do the > install to hard drive option ... its does the same "No usable disks" message > (and > therefore no option to try anything). I don't think I ever suggested do

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 6:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/18/2012 09:40 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: For what it is worth, I used the same DVD and am now doing a fresh install on a third machine. First and third machines are HP x4000 and the second "brick" is HP xw8000. I'm hard-pressed to believe it is a

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 8:50 PM, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 18:40 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: I now have a machine that is "a brick". There is no operating system on it as that got destroyed and any attempts to do a fresh install come back with "No usable disks have been found" and I can't make a

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 18:40 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > I now have a machine that is "a brick". There is no operating system > on it as that got destroyed and any attempts to do a fresh install > come back with "No usable disks have been found" and I can't make any > progress. Is that at a

Re: Fedora 15 and Apache service starting but not accepting connections at boot.

2012-03-17 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 00:42 +, Aero Maxx wrote: > I have Fedora 15 installed and its working well for me at the moment for > everything except apache in an odd way, it will start at boot without > any issues, but it wont allow any connections to it. Sounds like Apache has started up before t

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread R. G. Newbury
I have an install DVD that I used to do a fresh install of F16 onto a i386/686 machine. I then used it to do a fresh install of a second machine. Midway through the formatting/partitioning, it "popped up a bug". When I reported it, it pointed me to 743778 which was closed as "notabug". At that p

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 3/17/2012 6:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/18/2012 09:40 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: For what it is worth, I used the same DVD and am now doing a fresh install on a third machine. First and third machines are HP x4000 and the second "brick" is HP xw8000. I'm hard-pressed to believe it is a

Re: recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/18/2012 09:40 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > For what it is worth, I used the same DVD and am now doing a fresh install on > a > third machine. First and third machines are HP x4000 and the second "brick" > is HP > xw8000. I'm hard-pressed to believe it is a difference between x4000 and >

recover from a bad F16 install

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Allen Newell
To all: I have an install DVD that I used to do a fresh install of F16 onto a i386/686 machine. I then used it to do a fresh install of a second machine. Midway through the formatting/partitioning, it "popped up a bug". When I reported it, it pointed me to 743778 which was closed as "notabug"

Voting for packages waiting on FE-NEEDSPONSOR state

2012-03-17 Thread Alek Paunov
Which is the proper way to vote and describe potential benefits of a new package, with candidate maintainer who needs sponsorship. Thank you, Alek -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 17.03.2012 22:30, schrieb Jim: >> On 03/17/2012 01:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> Am 17.03.2012 14:34, schrieb Jim: I know this may not be the place for this post, but when it comes to software, how are these ISP's going

Fedora 15 and Apache service starting but not accepting connections at boot.

2012-03-17 Thread Aero Maxx
I have Fedora 15 installed and its working well for me at the moment for everything except apache in an odd way, it will start at boot without any issues, but it wont allow any connections to it. I checked netstat -tpln and this is what it shows :- Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread R. G. Newbury
On 03/17/2012 02:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 17.03.2012 18:45, schrieb Dave Ihnat: >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 06:24:08PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> what exactly let you imagine taht this has ANYTHING to do with OpenSource? >> Well, playing_Advocatus Diaboli_, what if some money

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Shane
On 03/17/2012 07:15 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.03.2012 23:59, schrieb Shane: On 03/17/2012 05:46 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.03.2012 22:30, schrieb Jim: On 03/17/2012 01:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.03.2012 14:34, schrieb Jim: I know this may not be the place for this post, but

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.03.2012 23:59, schrieb Shane: > On 03/17/2012 05:46 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 17.03.2012 22:30, schrieb Jim: >>> On 03/17/2012 01:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.03.2012 14:34, schrieb Jim: > I know this may not be the place for this post, but when it comes to > soft

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Shane
On 03/17/2012 05:46 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.03.2012 22:30, schrieb Jim: On 03/17/2012 01:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.03.2012 14:34, schrieb Jim: I know this may not be the place for this post, but when it comes to software, how are these ISP's going to treat Open Source Softwre

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.03.2012 22:30, schrieb Jim: > On 03/17/2012 01:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 17.03.2012 14:34, schrieb Jim: >>> I know this may not be the place for this post, but when it comes to >>> software, how are these ISP's going to treat >>> Open Source Softwre ? >>> >>> http://www.foxnews.

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Edward M .
On 03/17/2012 02:30 PM, Jim wrote: On 03/17/2012 01:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.03.2012 14:34, schrieb Jim: I know this may not be the place for this post, but when it comes to software, how are these ISP's going to treat Open Source Softwre ? http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/03/17/u

Re: Power off button acting differently?

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 21:12 +0100, Emilio Lopez wrote: > >I have found some more strange things. If I switch to a regular > >terminal window (Ctrl-Alt-F2) and press the power button it does a > >regular shutdown, but if either at the login screen or logged into > >gnome it seems to cause a suspend

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Jim
On 03/17/2012 01:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.03.2012 14:34, schrieb Jim: I know this may not be the place for this post, but when it comes to software, how are these ISP's going to treat Open Source Softwre ? http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/03/17/us-isps-become-copyright-cops-starti

Re: Getting FC16 to shut down

2012-03-17 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 16:24 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > In both GNOME (fallback mode) and xfce, if I click the shutdown entry in > the user drop down, I get a pop-up asking if I really mean it. WHile I'd > like to eliminate that step, if I click SHUTDOWN again I get a logout > sequence ending

Getting FC16 to shut down

2012-03-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
In both GNOME (fallback mode) and xfce, if I click the shutdown entry in the user drop down, I get a pop-up asking if I really mean it. WHile I'd like to eliminate that step, if I click SHUTDOWN again I get a logout sequence ending back at the login screen where there's a power icon leading to

Re: Power off button acting differently?

2012-03-17 Thread Emilio Lopez
>I have found some more strange things. If I switch to a regular >terminal window (Ctrl-Alt-F2) and press the power button it does a >regular shutdown, but if either at the login screen or logged into >gnome it seems to cause a suspend shutdown that doesn't work. Try to configure it in your Deskto

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread 夜神 岩男
--- On Sun, 2012/3/18, Steve Berg wrote: > On 03/17/2012 12:45 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: > > Well, playing_Advocatus Diaboli_, what if some moneyed software company > > claims Open Source software being hosted for download is violating their > > copyrights, and uses this excuse to shut down archives?

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread 夜神 岩男
--- On Sun, 2012/3/18, Temlakos wrote: > On 03/17/2012 02:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am > 17.03.2012 18:45, schrieb Dave Ihnat: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at > 06:24:08PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: what exactly let you > imagine taht this

Re: Starting postgres at boot time

2012-03-17 Thread Peter Larsen
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 07:27:35PM +0100, Emilio Lopez wrote: > Hello, > > I usually start postgresql database by running > > root@fedora>su postgres -c "postgres -D /home/postgres &" Bad idea. > > I'm trying to do it automatically at boot time, so I added that line > to /etc/rc.d/rc.local. Ho

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 09:34 -0400, Jim wrote: > I know this may not be the place for this post Correct. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.

Starting postgres at boot time

2012-03-17 Thread Emilio Lopez
Hello, I usually start postgresql database by running root@fedora>su postgres -c "postgres -D /home/postgres &" I'm trying to do it automatically at boot time, so I added that line to /etc/rc.d/rc.local. However database doesn't start. Any Ideas? Thanks. Emilio. -- users mailing list users@li

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.03.2012 19:22, schrieb Temlakos: > On 03/17/2012 02:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 17.03.2012 18:45, schrieb Dave Ihnat: >>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 06:24:08PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: what exactly let you imagine taht this has ANYTHING to do with OpenSource? >>> Well, playing

Re: systemd.log_target= :: writing the log as "dmesg -dxt" would show

2012-03-17 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Adrian Sevcenco wrote: > Hi! i would like to see the dmesg.shutdown files the way that i would > see the current messages as i would do dmesg -dtx ... > the most important would be the -d (i try to debug a huge (2 min) wait > time at shutdown given by NetworkManage

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Temlakos
On 03/17/2012 02:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.03.2012 18:45, schrieb Dave Ihnat: On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 06:24:08PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: what exactly let you imagine taht this has ANYTHING to do with OpenSource? Well, playing _Advocatus Diaboli_, what if some moneyed software comp

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 01:14:39PM -0500, Steve Berg wrote: > Wouldn't that be similar to folks wanting to shut down Smith & > Wesson because a S&W gun was used in a crime? Not really. They examine open source software, claim there's a copyright or patent infringement making it unlawful to dissem

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 01:09:12PM -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > But is not the flip side more pertinent: how does one validate that > closed source software is not using s/w in the OSS domain? Simply put, you don't. To get a look at it legitimately, you'll sign a NDA, so you can't say what you s

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 07:03:45PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > sorry, but this is simply bullshit in any context Well, with all due respect--this is probably not the forum for the discussion, most true. But if you haven't noticed, the Boys with the Toys have been playing the patent and copyrigh

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Steve Berg
On 03/17/2012 12:45 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: Well, playing_Advocatus Diaboli_, what if some moneyed software company claims Open Source software being hosted for download is violating their copyrights, and uses this excuse to shut down archives? Wouldn't that be similar to folks wanting to shut down

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:45:46 -0500 Dave Ihnat wrote: > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 06:24:08PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > what exactly let you imagine taht this has ANYTHING to do with OpenSource? > > Well, playing _Advocatus Diaboli_, what if some moneyed software company > claims Open Source s

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.03.2012 18:45, schrieb Dave Ihnat: > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 06:24:08PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> what exactly let you imagine taht this has ANYTHING to do with OpenSource? > > Well, playing _Advocatus Diaboli_, what if some moneyed software company > claims Open Source software being

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 06:24:08PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > what exactly let you imagine taht this has ANYTHING to do with OpenSource? Well, playing _Advocatus Diaboli_, what if some moneyed software company claims Open Source software being hosted for download is violating their copyrights,

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.03.2012 14:34, schrieb Jim: > I know this may not be the place for this post, but when it comes to > software, how are these ISP's going to treat > Open Source Softwre ? > > http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/03/17/us-isps-become-copyright-cops-starting-july-12/?intcmp=features what exa

Re: US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Edward M .
On 03/17/2012 06:34 AM, Jim wrote: how are these ISP's going to treat Open Source Softwre ? OSS is not illegal movie, music, software. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Re: Setting default $PATH

2012-03-17 Thread enclair
I forgot to CC the list when I wrote these messages: First message: I found something weird and I wonder if I should report a bug in the setup > package or not. > I've created /etc/profile.d/custom.sh, where I redefine PATH in order to > have /usr/local after /usr for all users. > But the files i

Re: Working with large directories

2012-03-17 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Nautilus seems to sniff the files to discover their types, and a >> plug-in tries to generate a thumbnail image for the file. Both these >> features are painfully slow with moderately largish directories. >> >> >> I've used the emelFM2 file manager as an alternative, it doesn't show >> th

Re: Setting default $PATH

2012-03-17 Thread enclair
Le 17 mars 2012 15:29, Ed Greshko a écrit : > On 03/17/2012 05:21 PM, enclair wrote: > > Hi, > > > > By default in Fedora /usr/local/bin is before /usr/bin > > Where is it defined? > > In /etc/profile, only /usr/local/sbin is set. > > > > > > I believe it is complied into /bin/bash. > > If you ed

systemd.log_target= :: writing the log as "dmesg -dxt" would show

2012-03-17 Thread Adrian Sevcenco
Hi! i would like to see the dmesg.shutdown files the way that i would see the current messages as i would do dmesg -dtx ... the most important would be the -d (i try to debug a huge (2 min) wait time at shutdown given by NetworkManager that its get killed after some timeout) (to see delta of time i

Re: Setting default $PATH

2012-03-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/17/2012 05:21 PM, enclair wrote: > Hi, > > By default in Fedora /usr/local/bin is before /usr/bin > Where is it defined? > In /etc/profile, only /usr/local/sbin is set. > > I believe it is complied into /bin/bash. If you edit the /etc/profile to first issue an echo $PATH > /tmp/test you wil

US ISPs become 'copyright cops' starting July 12

2012-03-17 Thread Jim
I know this may not be the place for this post, but when it comes to software, how are these ISP's going to treat Open Source Softwre ? http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/03/17/us-isps-become-copyright-cops-starting-july-12/?intcmp=features -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F14: X in runlevel 4 [SOLVED]

2012-03-17 Thread Frank Elsner
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:51:30 +0100 Frank Elsner wrote: > Hello all, > > I want to use runlevel 4 (same as runlevel 5 but with a small difference in > networking). > But how to start X in runlevel 4? Currently it starts only in runlevel 5. > Any pointer(s) welcome. Meanwhile I found the solution

Re: Setting default $PATH

2012-03-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/17/2012 06:11 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 03/17/2012 10:21 AM, enclair wrote: >> Hi, >> >> By default in Fedora /usr/local/bin is before /usr/bin >> Where is it defined? >> In /etc/profile, only /usr/local/sbin is set. >> > Which Fedora version? > > See: man systemd.path > OK, what does s

Re: Setting default $PATH

2012-03-17 Thread Joachim Backes
On 03/17/2012 10:21 AM, enclair wrote: > Hi, > > By default in Fedora /usr/local/bin is before /usr/bin > Where is it defined? > In /etc/profile, only /usr/local/sbin is set. > Which Fedora version? See: man systemd.path -- Joachim Backes http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Descr

Setting default $PATH

2012-03-17 Thread enclair
Hi, By default in Fedora /usr/local/bin is before /usr/bin Where is it defined? In /etc/profile, only /usr/local/sbin is set. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http:

Re: Working with large directories

2012-03-17 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 16Mar2012 23:49, fred smith wrote: | On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 09:39:03PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: | > If that were so, 'ls' would take as long as Nautilus (or Dolphin or | > whatever) to list a large directory. I don't have any huge directories | > to test, but I'm sceptical. | | Hmm.

bridge network ping problem

2012-03-17 Thread 嘉谟
I use tap mode for the guest network in qemu . here is /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-br0 2 DEVICE=br0 3 TYPE=Bridge 4 BOOTPROTO=static 5 ONBOOT=yes 6 DNS1=192.168.1.1 7 GATEWAY=10.16.255.254 8 IPADDR=10.16.172.77 9 NETMASK=255.255.0.0 10 ONBOOT=yes 11 DELAY=0 12 STP=of