On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 01:01, Craig White wrote:
> yet another oppressively
> cynical posting from Fernando
Can you please provide a list of "oppresively cynical postings" from
me to this list?. Offlist please.
I want to be surprised.
FC
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On 12/23/2011 04:16 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/22/2011 07:29 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Must have been the same guys who built Fukushima on a seismic area
prone to tsunamis.
I'd like to point out three things. First, all of Japan is tectonically
active. Second, not one person outside the facili
On 12/22/2011 11:30 PM, 夜神 岩男 wrote:
On 12/23/2011 01:35 PM, jdow wrote:
On 2011/12/22 19:29, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Let´s all give a round of applause to the brainiacs who in the name of
cost cutting, selected a flood-prone area to place their investment
(factories), all due to the low wages.
On 12/22/2011 11:26 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
If you find anything you think the rest of us might find interesting
and can describe without blowing your stack let us know. And, if
enough of us don't like it, maybe we can get it changed.
I will post after I dig ... assuming I get my machine back (
On 12/23/2011 01:35 PM, jdow wrote:
On 2011/12/22 19:29, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:19, Dave Ihnat wrote:
That situation will ease--the industry is saying by second
quarter, but my bet is for at least a year, maybe 16-18 months (since
they
have to either dry out and refur
On 12/22/2011 11:08 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
That being said, I do think I will take a dive into "what has Fedora
decided is the best usage and overridden the default". I suspect I will
be surprised, but I promise that I will do my screaming in the general
direction of my backyard and not thi
On 12/22/2011 07:29 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Must have been the same guys who built Fukushima on a seismic area
prone to tsunamis.
I'd like to point out three things. First, all of Japan is tectonically
active. Second, not one person outside the facility has been exposed to
radiation from
On 12/23/2011 05:34 AM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, g wrote:
>
>> the pot calling the kettle black. very topical of a troll.
>
>> i am not the one who has been trolling this list.
>
> While most the persons here are helpful and suggesting but I have so
> far,
On 12/22/2011 10:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
Welcome
BTW, if you want to know all of the aliases defined for your current
session just type "alias". By default the system sets up more than just
aliases for "ls".
Ed:
I am very familiar with the command alias. I just made a blind
assumption
On 12/23/2011 10:32 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> Many thanks. As I wrote to jdow, it is especially appreciated given
> that my machine is in repair so all I can do is ask questions without
> being able to do any searching for answers (yes, I could probably
> google around, but as I wrote Joe I wa
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, g wrote:
> the pot calling the kettle black. very topical of a troll.
> i am not the one who has been trolling this list.
While most the persons here are helpful and suggesting but I have so
far, seen only you to come into the war and fight, shame on you!
Wheth
We would like to establish a guest hosting set up so we can implement a rich
media hosting environment. Would like to host ubuntu so we can install
the plex adaptive bitrate server. Would like to host Windows 7 media
center with hdcp playback. Maybe Lion for other media services.
Will the virt imp
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 00:29 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> Let´s all give a round of applause to the brainiacs who in the name of
> cost cutting, selected a flood-prone area to place their investment
> (factories), all due to the low wages.
>
> Must have been the same guys who built Fukushima on
On 12/22/2011 03:33 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Richard Heck wrote:
When I do:
ls /bin/ping
I get "ping" displayed with black text on a red background. I don't see
anything special about its permissions. What's up?
Fedora switched[1] from using the suid-bit to capabilities. If you
wis
However, on a 1M ADSL connection, downloading the netinstall saves a
lot of download time. That'll be important for people whose ISPs are
bandwidth-capped, too.
I don't know where you're at. I'm in Thailand and here 7MBit ADSL is the
cheapest available broadband package. Dialup is available to
On 2011/12/22 20:01, Craig White wrote:
On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 00:29 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Let´s all give a round of applause to the brainiacs who in the name of
cost cutting, selected a flood-prone area to place their investment
(factories), all due to the low wages.
Must have been the
On 2011/12/22 19:29, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:19, Dave Ihnat wrote:
That situation will ease--the industry is saying by second
quarter, but my bet is for at least a year, maybe 16-18 months (since they
have to either dry out and refurbish flooded facilities, build new
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 15:19, Dave Ihnat wrote:
> That situation will ease--the industry is saying by second
> quarter, but my bet is for at least a year, maybe 16-18 months (since they
> have to either dry out and refurbish flooded facilities, build new
> facilities, or expand existing faciliti
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:44, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I got a 64GB SSD and keep current and previous fedora
> partitions on it (32GB each)
I´ve given some thought to SSDs as well, and I wonder if it wouldn´t
make sense to put the boot and OS partition as ext3, and /tmp on ext2
(why journal temp fil
On 12/22/2011 6:24 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
alias ls='ls --color=auto'
/bin/ls
[egreshko@meimei profile.d]$ which ls
alias ls='ls --color=auto'
/bin/ls
[egreshko@meimei profile.d]$ which ll
alias ll='ls -l --color=auto'
/bin/ls
[egreshko@meimei profile.d]$ which l.
alias
On 12/22/2011 6:22 PM, jdow wrote:
To be honest I forget whether it is "alias ls="ls --color"" or
"alias ls="ls --color=auto"". I suspect it's the former, at least for
root. This is one of the first things I doctor with things like:
alias dir="ls -lrt --color=auto"
alias ls="ls --color=auto"
ali
On 12/23/2011 09:22 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> On 12/22/2011 5:15 PM, jdow wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My F14 Linux box is getting repaired so I can't test ... what is
>>> this alias
>>> changing about 'ls'? I don't remember seeing any factory-setting
>>> .bashrc that
>>> has ls aliased to ls with some o
On 2011/12/22 17:22, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
On 12/22/2011 5:15 PM, jdow wrote:
My F14 Linux box is getting repaired so I can't test ... what is this alias
changing about 'ls'? I don't remember seeing any factory-setting .bashrc that
has ls aliased to ls with some options?
It's been stand
On 12/22/2011 5:15 PM, jdow wrote:
My F14 Linux box is getting repaired so I can't test ... what is this
alias
changing about 'ls'? I don't remember seeing any factory-setting
.bashrc that
has ls aliased to ls with some options?
It's been standard since RedHat 5.something, at least.
It
On 12/22/2011 10:12 AM, g wrote:
in one of your persona's, i suggested you to do something, which you
did as yourself. and as yourself, you repeat what you asked in your
personae.
I think that the term you want is "sock puppet."
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On 12/23/2011 09:50 AM, Craig White wrote:
> can't say for certain (and I'm not going to research) but I've been
> using Linux for many years and never see blinking names from an ls
> command except for broken symbolic links. Blinking/flashing makes sense
> in terms of drawing your attention to thi
On 12/22/2011 5:50 PM, Craig White wrote:
can't say for certain (and I'm not going to research) but I've been
using Linux for many years and never see blinking names from an ls
command except for broken symbolic links. Blinking/flashing makes sense
in terms of drawing your attention to thin
On 2011/12/22 17:57, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Thursday 22 December 2011 12:47:56 Steven Stern wrote:
With tech, it will always be faster, cheaper, and better next year. If
you can use the benefit now and it's hit your price point, buy it. If
it's not at your price point, wait a bit.
Forgive
On Thursday 22 December 2011 12:47:56 Steven Stern wrote:
> With tech, it will always be faster, cheaper, and better next year. If
> you can use the benefit now and it's hit your price point, buy it. If
> it's not at your price point, wait a bit.
Forgive my ignorance, what is a "price point"?
Be
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 17:35 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> On 12/22/2011 5:30 PM, Craig White wrote:
> >
> > I find it extremely useful to have my attention drawn to the fact that
> > this linked file is broken so the flashing seems entirely useful. The
> > colorization is less interesting to me
On 2011/12/22 17:40, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/22/2011 05:23 PM, jdow wrote:
Get a cheap replacement drive and install fresh on it. See if that works.
Until last month when Social Security kicked in, I had no income. Literally. A
"cheap replacement drive" is still a big chunk of my monthly income,
Hi
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Christopher Svanefalk
wrote:
> I just wondered if anyone here has had any experience in using SSDs in
> general, and with Fedora in particular? I am thinking about an upgrade, but
> I am uncertain whether it is worth it to invest in an SSD now, or let the
> te
I filed a bug report so I am just bringing this to the attention of
users. Turns out that wine installs duplicated 32 bit and 64 bit
packages. With dependencies, it works out to an additional 96
32-bit packages and about an additional quarter gig of space. For
example wine-64 requires wine-core-64
On 12/22/2011 05:23 PM, jdow wrote:
Get a cheap replacement drive and install fresh on it. See if that works.
Until last month when Social Security kicked in, I had no income.
Literally. A "cheap replacement drive" is still a big chunk of my
monthly income, not to be considered lightly, espe
On 12/22/2011 5:36 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
I remember, once, chasing this down from /etc/bashrc to some other
file and, IIRC, a third file that contains the definitions. I was
very unhappy to learn that all of the definitions were numeric and
there was no key included to help you figure out what
On 12/22/2011 05:22 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
I remember seeing certain files or directories colorized to some color
over black which, in my opinion, is visually difficult to read and I've
been following the thread with the hopes of seeign a solution. I don't
mind, and actually like, colored t
On 12/22/2011 5:30 PM, Craig White wrote:
I find it extremely useful to have my attention drawn to the fact that
this linked file is broken so the flashing seems entirely useful. The
colorization is less interesting to me and very painful if I try to use
white on black terminals (so I don't).
I
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Fedora User wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:04:00 +0900
> Joel Rees wrote:
>
>> I generally don't do install from DVD because there will always be the
>> first yum update after the install, to kill a bit of time. I use the
>
> Actually, you can enable the update
On 12/22/2011 5:26 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
Part of the standard .bashrc includes /etc/bashrc and its standard
definitions. One of them sets ls to be the color version, and I used
to chase it down and remove it, only to have the next update of the
file return it. I finally realized that putting
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 17:10 -0800, jdow wrote:
> Now THAT one is indeed a borken specification in the ls colorization code.
> Blinking anything makes me want to find the person who perpetrated it and
> wreck unimaginable havoc upon his soon to be cooling body.
>
> {^_^} and about this one, I'm
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:04:00 +0900
Joel Rees wrote:
> I generally don't do install from DVD because there will always be the
> first yum update after the install, to kill a bit of time. I use the
Actually, you can enable the update repo with the dvd install. The
installation will then proceed fr
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> On 23.12.2011 01:04, Joel Rees wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Reindl Harald
>> wrote:
>>> i made some hundret dist-upgrades since 2006 with yum
>>> yes they are sometimes not "start and forget" but it takes
>>> me 1-3 days a
On 12/22/2011 05:04 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
My F14 Linux box is getting repaired so I can't test ... what is this
alias changing about 'ls'? I don't remember seeing any factory-setting
.bashrc that has ls aliased to ls with some options?
Paul
Part of the standard .bashrc includes /etc/bas
On 2011/12/22 17:16, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/22/2011 04:29 PM, jdow wrote:
(Joe MIGHT have been wise to move to 15 from 14 then move to 16 from 15 as
the upgrade path would have smaller changes. 14 to 15 might have properly
caught his syslogd problem. I'm not looking forward to the day the RHEL
p
On 12/22/2011 04:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
do colors hurt you?
what is so different in understanding a hdnaful of colors?
If I want that info, I can always use ls -l; if I don't use that, it
means that I don't care or don't need it.
what is so different to understand a blinking red link
On 12/22/2011 04:29 PM, jdow wrote:
(Joe MIGHT have been wise to move to 15 from 14 then move to 16 from 15 as
the upgrade path would have smaller changes. 14 to 15 might have properly
caught his syslogd problem. I'm not looking forward to the day the RHEL
path
adopts systemd. It sounds like mor
On 2011/12/22 17:04, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
On 12/22/2011 2:52 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
That's why my .bashrc contains this line:
alias ls=ls
That gets rid of the colors that somebody "helpfully" decided that everybody
wants.
Joe:
My F14 Linux box is getting repaired so I can't test ... what i
On 2011/12/22 16:59, Reindl Harald wrote:
On 22.12.2011 23:52, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/22/2011 02:08 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
Look up the manual "man dircolors". It's documented.
Yes, but only if you happen to understand the numeric codes and how they
interact. For somebody like me, who
On 2011/12/22 14:52, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/22/2011 02:08 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
Look up the manual "man dircolors". It's documented.
Yes, but only if you happen to understand the numeric codes and how they
interact. For somebody like me, who has no need to know that type of thing, it's
si
On 2011/12/22 16:53, Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 13:16 -0800, jdow wrote:
One could observe that Windows tends to get this right. One could observe
your attitude matches with "It was hard to write, it should be hard to use!"
One could observe that this is a sign of acceptance of sl
On 12/22/2011 2:52 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
That's why my .bashrc contains this line:
alias ls=ls
That gets rid of the colors that somebody "helpfully" decided that
everybody wants.
Joe:
My F14 Linux box is getting repaired so I can't test ... what is this
alias changing about 'ls'? I don't r
On 22.12.2011 23:52, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/22/2011 02:08 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> Look up the manual "man dircolors". It's documented.
>
> Yes, but only if you happen to understand the numeric codes and how they
> interact. For somebody like me, who has
> no need to know that type of t
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 13:16 -0800, jdow wrote:
> One could observe that Windows tends to get this right. One could observe
> your attitude matches with "It was hard to write, it should be hard to use!"
> One could observe that this is a sign of acceptance of sloppiness. And there
> are more things
On 12/22/2011 02:08 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
Look up the manual "man dircolors". It's documented.
Yes, but only if you happen to understand the numeric codes and how they
interact. For somebody like me, who has no need to know that type of
thing, it's simply gibberish. That's why my .bas
On 2011/12/22 14:19, Reindl Harald wrote:
On 22.12.2011 22:16, jdow wrote:
Careful sir, you just stepped into the brown pile the doggie left.
One could observe that Windows tends to get this right. One could observe
your attitude matches with "It was hard to write, it should be hard to use!"
O
On 23.12.2011 01:04, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> i made some hundret dist-upgrades since 2006 with yum
>> yes they are sometimes not "start and forget" but it takes
>> me 1-3 days after a fresh-install (many services, customized
>> configs) and so
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:59 AM, JB wrote:
> Christopher Svanefalk gmail.com> writes:
>
>>
>>
>> I switched to Gnome3 just recently, and frankly, I am not sure I would want
>> to
> go back again. Yes, the project has to mature, and I expect we will hit F18
> before Gnome3 is on par with Gnome2 i
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> On 22.12.2011 20:29, mike cloaked wrote:
>> Of course others may largely have had no problems with ugrades and
>> maybe I was just the one unlucky one! Anyway with all the QA testing
>> on recent versions as well as the QA testing of the
On 12/22/2011 01:09:40 PM, JB wrote:
> Cinnamon: GNOME Shell Fork With A GNOME2-Like Layout
> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/cinnamon-gnome-shell-fork-with-
> gnome2.html
Having switched to xfce4 when I discovered what a hash the Gnome
developers had made of the UI, why should I go back? Sure, th
On 22.12.2011 23:55, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/22/2011 02:19 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> if you call it arrogance to check what i am doing before, while and
>> especially AFTER a dist-upgrade so i am arrogant - better this than
>> doing anything without verify
>
> No, but it is arrogance to put an
On 12/22/2011 02:19 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
if you call it arrogance to check what i am doing before, while and
especially AFTER a dist-upgrade so i am arrogant - better this than
doing anything without verify
No, but it is arrogance to put another member of the list (me, as it
happens) for n
On 22.12.2011 22:16, jdow wrote:
> Careful sir, you just stepped into the brown pile the doggie left.
>
> One could observe that Windows tends to get this right. One could observe
> your attitude matches with "It was hard to write, it should be hard to use!"
> One could observe that this is a sig
On 12/21/2011 10:32 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:
On 12/21/2011 04:44 PM, Mohamed El Morabity wrote:
Hi,
the bug was reported and fixed upstream;
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=666054
You should write a bug report to merge the fix in the gnome-tweak-tool package.
Thanks for this
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:53:56 -0600, AK (Aaron) wrote:
> > Same here. Do : ls /bin/* and you will see he programs hat display
> > like: mount, umount, ping, su, fusermounnt, and ping6.
> >
> > I can't figure out what these programs have in common to be displayed in
> > a special color.
>
> What
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:48:27 -0600, AK (Aaron) wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 15:13 -0500, Richard Heck wrote:
> > When I do:
> > ls /bin/ping
> > I get "ping" displayed with black text on a red background. I don't see
> > anything special about its permissions. What's up? I ask because I'v
On 12/22/2011 11:47 PM, antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote:
> as already explained, thread was already open: I will not spend any more
> time (that I don't have) to add any single line why I didn't (or I forgot to)
> add the description of Openfoam...
You are totally incorrect
If your "annou
Aaron Konstam wrote:
I can't figure out what these programs have in common to be displayed in
a special color.
Aaron, did you receive my reply to the OP question?
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410704.html
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Christopher Svanefalk gmail.com> writes:
>
>
> I switched to Gnome3 just recently, and frankly, I am not sure I would want to
go back again. Yes, the project has to mature, and I expect we will hit F18
before Gnome3 is on par with Gnome2 in terms of raw stability (I sometimes
cannot even log ou
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:50:40PM +0100, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
> I switched to Gnome3 just recently, and frankly, I am not sure I would want
> to go back again. Yes, the project has to mature, and I expect we will hit
> F18 before Gnome3 is on par with Gnome2 in terms of raw stability (I
>
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 15:48 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 15:13 -0500, Richard Heck wrote:
> > When I do:
> > ls /bin/ping
> > I get "ping" displayed with black text on a red background. I don't see
> > anything special about its permissions. What's up? I ask because I
On 12/22/2011 4:16 PM, jdow wrote:
Your arrogance seems to have tripped you up, sir.
his posts drip with disdain, lording his far superior practices, and
heaping scorn on the lesser mortals he's supposedly here to help...(at
least, I thought that was the purpose of this list)
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I switched to Gnome3 just recently, and frankly, I am not sure I would want
to go back again. Yes, the project has to mature, and I expect we will hit
F18 before Gnome3 is on par with Gnome2 in terms of raw stability (I
sometimes cannot even log out without getting a freeze), but I absolutely
belie
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 15:13 -0500, Richard Heck wrote:
> When I do:
> ls /bin/ping
> I get "ping" displayed with black text on a red background. I don't see
> anything special about its permissions. What's up? I ask because I've
> installed another program recently that has the same color d
On 12/22/2011 4:01 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/22/2011 11:24 AM, Claude Jones wrote:
On 12/22/2011 1:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
I just saw that the url I gave for the BZ was incomplete:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769918
thanks, just added a comment to confirm your report
Great!
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 08:38 -0500, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 08:29 -0500, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > In Fedora releases previous to 15, Evolution had an option allowing me
> > to use a small script to generate my signature. In Fedora 15, I can no
>
On 12/22/2011 01:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
however, do not check this after dist-upgrades is a epic-fail
how do you debig all the other problems you wrote about if least
your syslog does not work?
Apples and oranges here, because you're working in a production
environment and I'm only deali
On 2011/12/22 10:58, Reindl Harald wrote:
On 22.12.2011 19:40, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote:
"The rule for migration to systemd is to "start-over fresh" with default
start and stop policy from the new package, and not to migrate what the
user had previously configured."
On 12/22/2011 08:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/22/2011 10:12 AM, g wrote:
>> in one of your persona's, i suggested you to do something, which you
>> did as yourself. and as yourself, you repeat what you asked in your
>> personae.
>
> I think that the term you want is "sock puppet."
-=-
actually,
On 12/20/2011 11:40 AM, Jared Carter wrote:
Hi Rich, thanks for the reply. Running this on RHEL 5.7. Versions of
all the 389 stuff I'm using are:
389-ds-base-1.2.5-1.el5
389-dsgw-1.1.4-1.el5
389-ds-1.1.3-6.el5
389-adminutil-1.1.8-4.el5
389-admin-1.1.10-1.el5
389-admin-console-1.1.4-3.el5
389-
Cinnamon: GNOME Shell Fork With A GNOME2-Like Layout
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/cinnamon-gnome-shell-fork-with-gnome2.html
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On 22.12.2011 21:57, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/22/2011 10:58 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>> On 22.12.2011 19:40, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>> > On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote:
>> "The rule for migration to systemd is to "start-over fresh" with
>> default
>> start and stop policy from t
On 12/20/2011 07:23 PM, Stephen More wrote:
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Rich Megginson wrote:
On 12/19/2011 03:56 PM, Stephen More wrote:
I have looked through the documentation and have found references to
install package 389-admin so that I can run setup-ds-admin.pl and
389-console.
Bu
On 12/22/2011 11:24 AM, Claude Jones wrote:
On 12/22/2011 1:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
I just saw that the url I gave for the BZ was incomplete:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769918
thanks, just added a comment to confirm your report
Great! I see that you got hit going from F15 t
On 12/22/2011 10:58 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
On 22.12.2011 19:40, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote:
>> "The rule for migration to systemd is to "start-over fresh" with default
>> start and stop policy from the new package, and not to migrate what the
>> user had previous
On 12/22/2011 10:44 AM, Claude Jones wrote:
I tried, but your link just took me into the login page; I logged in and
then I got an error saying "You must specify a product first" - Tried a
second time, but only got a blank bug reporting page ready to be filled
in - no trace in all of this of your
Richard Heck wrote:
When I do:
ls /bin/ping
I get "ping" displayed with black text on a red background. I don't see
anything special about its permissions. What's up?
Fedora switched[1] from using the suid-bit to capabilities. If you wish
to see capabilities you can run "getcap" on the fi
On 22.12.2011 21:13, Richard Heck wrote:
>
> When I do:
> ls /bin/ping
> I get "ping" displayed with black text on a red background. I don't see
> anything special about its permissions.
> What's up? I ask because I've installed another program recently that has the
> same color display, a
When I do:
ls /bin/ping
I get "ping" displayed with black text on a red background. I don't see
anything special about its permissions. What's up? I ask because I've
installed another program recently that has the same color display, and
I'm trying to figure out why.
Richard
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On 12/22/2011 08:47 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 16:32 +0100, antonio.montagn...@alice.it wrote:
never heard of Google??
Unbelievable. Do you *still* not get it? In words of one syllable: why
do you make me look at a web page to see if I want this? Why do you not
just t
On 22.12.2011 20:29, mike cloaked wrote:
> Of course others may largely have had no problems with ugrades and
> maybe I was just the one unlucky one! Anyway with all the QA testing
> on recent versions as well as the QA testing of the upgrade path
> perhaps my experience of it is simply outdated
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:47:56 -0600
Steven Stern wrote:
> With tech, it will always be faster, cheaper, and better next year. If
> you can use the benefit now and it's hit your price point, buy it. If
> it's not at your price point, wait a bit.
As long as the memory chip factories don't get flood
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/22/2011 02:31 AM, mike cloaked wrote:
>>
>> the almost inevitable
>> problems that have come from the upgrade of an older system.
>
>
> And I've been doing upgrades for years and this is the first time I've ever
> had the slightest bit of tr
On 12/22/2011 1:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
I just saw that the url I gave for the BZ was incomplete:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769918
thanks, just added a comment to confirm your report
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On 22/12/11 18:56, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
Just did it on an F15> F16,
rsyslog came up enabled and running.
Admittedly I did "yum update" on the box.
rsyslog was converted to systemd in F15, so F15->F16 would have just
retained the enabl
On 22.12.2011 19:40, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote:
>> "The rule for migration to systemd is to "start-over fresh" with default
>> start and stop policy from the new package, and not to migrate what the
>> user had previously configured."
>
> In other words, the new rule is
Heinz Diehl wrote:
I am quite satisfied with my
7200rmp SATA disks.
Richard's email reminded me of a video I made of package installation on
an SSD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnuCHh2QN8Y
Your HDD will cry for mercy when you see over 400 packages being updated
in under 5 minutes. The s
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> Just did it on an F15 > F16,
> rsyslog came up enabled and running.
> Admittedly I did "yum update" on the box.
rsyslog was converted to systemd in F15, so F15->F16 would have just
retained the enabled state in systemd.
-T.C.
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On 12/22/2011 07:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
Just did it on an F15 > F16,
rsyslog came up enabled and running.
Admittedly I did "yum update" on the box.
I just saw that the url I gave for the BZ was incomplete:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=769918
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On 12/22/2011 07:41 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
Just did it on an F15 > F16,
rsyslog came up enabled and running.
Admittedly I did "yum update" on the box.
It's possible that the upgrade method is significant. I used preupgrade
on both my desktop and laptop. The bug struck the desktop but I've y
On 12/22/2011 07:39 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
Make the effort to explain yourself just a little bit. Not all of us
are rocket scientists.
Not only that, not all of us share your interests. Just because this
project is very important to you doesn't mean that world+dog is going to
recognize it wi
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