Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/22/2011 08:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by the sysvinit/upstart->systemd transition. If it has not been BZ'd before, it should be BZ'ed. I wouldn't mind being the reporter, but I

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 11:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I would call it a functional regression having been introduce during by the sysvinit/upstart->systemd transition. If it has not been BZ'd before, it should be BZ'ed. I wouldn't mind being the reporter, but I'd like to know if anybody else sees thi

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 08:10 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 12/22/2011 08:00 AM, Tim wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> > >> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html > > > > Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new de

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 11:00 PM, Tim wrote: Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a fault? No, it doesn't, it asks the question. Begging the question is something entirely different which would better be called assuming your conclusion. The term comes from a form of

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/22/2011 08:00 AM, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +, Frank Murphy wrote: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a fault? I would call it a functional regression having be

Re: Network service - is it still available?

2011-12-21 Thread Emilio Lopez
>>> Yesterday, NM went into some kind of fit on my Fedora/KDE laptop, >>> with a small window entitled "Secret" appearing on my desktop, >>> with a space to write a password, which unfortunately did not accept >>> input. >> >> I had the same issue. Last weekend, the "Secrets for" window appeared, >

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/22/2011 02:59 PM, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 19:00 +, nu...@gmx.com wrote: >> replying from my phone BB OS 5 doesn't let you interleave or bottom >> post > I don't believe you. Are you seriously expecting us to believe that you > have no way to reposition the cursor? > Well, I d

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 20:04 +, Frank Murphy wrote: > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html Begs the question: Has this no-logging become a new default, or just a fault? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replie

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 18:40 +, nu...@gmx.com wrote: > Loads of options in IPv6 tunnelling: tunnelbroker.net (hurricane > electric), sixxs.net, ... > You get your own ::/64 global subnet (or ::/48 if you prefer). > Basically anyone can get a global v6 address. Even with a dynamic IPv4 > address.

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 19:00 +, nu...@gmx.com wrote: > replying from my phone BB OS 5 doesn't let you interleave or bottom > post I don't believe you. Are you seriously expecting us to believe that you have no way to reposition the cursor? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 12:25 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > The point is, that device has a fixed pool of IP addresses, all from > the same subnet, to pass out. Thus, as long as you're connecting to > that device, you're going to get an address from the same block. Not on my ISP. There's two or three di

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 01:05 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Me ducks for cover Ducks don't provide much cover. You need something larger, like an albatross. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read mess

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Craig White wrote: >> conversation is my button, applied with gusto. >> Roger > evidently your aim isn't so good and you hit the reply button instead of > delete button. +1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It's a DSLAM (DSL Access Module), i.e. a card stuck into the phone > company's switch. Now a ways, router are used more often, some boxy type of thing. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subs

Re: login dialog doesn't scroll in F15

2011-12-21 Thread Joachim Backes
On 12/22/2011 02:26 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > Has this been fixed? > > Anyone besides me with a login user list long enough to make this bug show up? > > Is it possibly just a configuration file issue? > > Joel Rees Hi Joel, after having added 10 users and restarting gdm (so I have totally 11 use

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 07:56 PM, Craig White wrote: it would be pretty hard to 'out troll' Marcel/Gilpel. Maybe, but I'm sure that Sgt. Detritus could manage it, and that Diamond is in a class by himself. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options

Re: getting the nologin users out of the login dialog

2011-12-21 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 12:57 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 12/21/2011 05:24 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > >> > >> In fedora14 users whose login shell (in /etc/passwd) is specified as > >> /sbin/nologin do not show up in the login dialog. In Fedora15, th

Re: getting the nologin users out of the login dialog

2011-12-21 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/21/2011 05:24 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> In fedora14 users whose login shell (in /etc/passwd) is specified as >> /sbin/nologin do not show up in the login dialog. In Fedora15, they >> do. >> >> Does any one know of a setting to fix this? >

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 03:11 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Thursday 22 December 2011 09:35:59 Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 12/22/2011 09:05 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > // And now the *real* flame wars will begin... Me ducks for cover, > > > smiling in a diabolic way... // > > > > Does that me

Re: mouse and keyboard locking up...

2011-12-21 Thread Linda McLeod
Re: mouse and keyboard locking up [Solved - card reader was culprit - correction: problem caused by failing motherboard USB header/port] __ More and more this mess is reading like the problem might be a only a loose USB connector solder-joint, from to much harsh traffic.

Re: getting the nologin users out of the login dialog

2011-12-21 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:24:24 +0900, >  Joel Rees wrote: >> Okay, one question at a time, even though I'm pretty sure it's just >> two faces of the same problem. >> >> In fedora14 users whose login shell (in /etc/passwd) is specified a

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/22/2011 11:22 AM, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:46:26 -0700 > Craig White wrote: > >> On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 10:31 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 12/22/2011 10:09 AM, Roger wrote: Ah yes! but the other couple of hundred ? gone. >>> couple of hundred = 80 (including th

Re: Clean Installs are Remarkable

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 07:06 PM, Fedora User wrote: It has been awhile and I was unaware of the many advances that developers have made in installation. It has never been this easy, intuitive and fast. That's good to know. Even if I manage to get this desktop cleaned up and working, I'm considering sa

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread 夜神 岩男
On 12/22/2011 11:46 AM, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 10:31 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/22/2011 10:09 AM, Roger wrote: Ah yes! but the other couple of hundred ? gone. couple of hundred = 80 (including this one) couple of hundred = hyperbole I used to tell my children all

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:46:26 -0700 Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 10:31 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 12/22/2011 10:09 AM, Roger wrote: > > > Ah yes! but the other couple of hundred ? gone. > > > > couple of hundred = 80 (including this one) > > > > couple of hundred = hyperbole

Re: getting the nologin users out of the login dialog

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 05:24 PM, Joel Rees wrote: In fedora14 users whose login shell (in /etc/passwd) is specified as /sbin/nologin do not show up in the login dialog. In Fedora15, they do. Does any one know of a setting to fix this? It's quite possible it's a bug in the login manager. If you're usin

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 22 December 2011 09:35:59 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/22/2011 09:05 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > // And now the *real* flame wars will begin... Me ducks for cover, > > smiling in a diabolic way... // > > Does that mean you are openly admitting to status of "troll"? :-) :-) Nah, that

Clean Installs are Remarkable

2011-12-21 Thread Fedora User
I cannot believe that we are at F16. I clearly recall RH9 to FC-1. But I digress. I know that others have said this in the past. I just thought that I would reinforce the notion that clean installs remove a large number of annoying problems that persist through upgrades. Moreover, it is refreshing

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 10:31 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/22/2011 10:09 AM, Roger wrote: > > Ah yes! but the other couple of hundred ? gone. > > couple of hundred = 80 (including this one) > > couple of hundred = hyperbole I used to tell my children all the time - don't exaggerate... the

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/22/2011 10:09 AM, Roger wrote: > Ah yes! but the other couple of hundred ? gone. couple of hundred = 80 (including this one) couple of hundred = hyperbole -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of compl

Re: getting the nologin users out of the login dialog

2011-12-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:24:24 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > Okay, one question at a time, even though I'm pretty sure it's just > two faces of the same problem. > > In fedora14 users whose login shell (in /etc/passwd) is specified as > /sbin/nologin do not show up in the login dialog. In Fedora1

xev and certain windows

2011-12-21 Thread Ed Greshko
I've not needed to do this for a long time and I thought it works But, here is the skinny. If I obtain the window id of, for example, a libre office window, using xwininfo and then invoke xev with the -id parameter things seem to work as expected. For example, pressing "1" in the libre offic

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Roger
On 22/12/11 11:58, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 09:15 +1100, Roger wrote: As the great Yogi Berra once said "This is like deja vu all over again." The truly great thing about his increasingly irrelevant conversation conversation is my button, applied with gusto. Roger ev

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/22/2011 09:05 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > // And now the *real* flame wars will begin... Me ducks for cover, smiling in > a > diabolic way... // Does that mean you are openly admitting to status of "troll"? :-) :-) -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something co

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 21 December 2011 06:58:08 Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Still take for example the Android platform which is Linux/GNU/Linux. Wait, is there really any GNU in the Android? I thought that Android was a textbook example of a Linux-based non-GNU OS... ;-) // And now the *real* flame war

login dialog doesn't scroll in F15

2011-12-21 Thread Joel Rees
Has this been fixed? Anyone besides me with a login user list long enough to make this bug show up? Is it possibly just a configuration file issue? Joel Rees -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailma

getting the nologin users out of the login dialog

2011-12-21 Thread Joel Rees
Okay, one question at a time, even though I'm pretty sure it's just two faces of the same problem. In fedora14 users whose login shell (in /etc/passwd) is specified as /sbin/nologin do not show up in the login dialog. In Fedora15, they do. Does any one know of a setting to fix this? I read in th

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 09:15 +1100, Roger wrote: > > > As the great Yogi Berra once said "This is like deja vu all over again." > > > > > The truly great thing about his increasingly irrelevant conversation > conversation is my button, applied with gusto. > Roger evidently your aim isn'

Re: Theme extension broke

2011-12-21 Thread Lawrence Graves
On 12/21/2011 04:44 PM, Mohamed El Morabity wrote: Hi, the bug was reported and fixed upstream; https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=666054 You should write a bug report to merge the fix in the gnome-tweak-tool package. Thanks for this information but this doesn't change what I am e

Re: dbus-daemon error message persisting

2011-12-21 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Thanks for the info. > But is there any simple way of stopping upowerd? > I tested yum-removing it, but this would have taken > dozens of applications with it. You can just remove /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.UPower.ser

Re: Theme extension broke

2011-12-21 Thread Mohamed El Morabity
Hi, the bug was reported and fixed upstream; https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=666054 You should write a bug report to merge the fix in the gnome-tweak-tool package. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedora

Re: Theme extension broke

2011-12-21 Thread Shaun Jones
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote: > Just wondering has anyone experienced the inability to use the theme > selector in gnome tweak tool. Does not offer the option of reporting it as > a bug. It has been broke more than a month. > -- > Lawrence Graves ** All things are workab

Theme extension broke

2011-12-21 Thread Lawrence Graves
Just wondering has anyone experienced the inability to use the theme selector in gnome tweak tool. Does not offer the option of reporting it as a bug. It has been broke more than a month. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. -- users mailing list users@lists.fed

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread g
On 12/21/2011 08:15 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/21/2011 10:04 AM, g wrote: >> only time it changes is when i do a full system power down, including ups, >> which brings down dsl modem. > > I used to do this type of stuff at an ISP. What you have is a fairly > long lease on an IP. When that lease

Re: F16: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed

2011-12-21 Thread Soham Chakraborty
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Hi, > > Since having upgraded to F16 from F14, I am drowning in messages similar > to the one below on the console (corrupting any console output) > > [ 1400.353433] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed > [ 1400.356601] sd 4:0:0:0

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Roger
As the great Yogi Berra once said "This is like deja vu all over again." The truly great thing about his increasingly irrelevant conversation conversation is my button, applied with gusto. Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opti

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread jdow
On 2011/12/21 10:56, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/21/2011 07:40 AM, Clive Hills wrote: I invoke Godwin's Law and mention Hitler. Can this just stop. Clive No. Mentioning him simply to end a thread doesn't count; you have to invoke him in anger. There is also the philosophical question regarding

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread g
On 12/21/2011 10:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: <> > As the great Yogi Berra once said "This is like deja vu all over again." > > Nearly the exact same question came up very recently on this > list...as well as the Ubuntu list...as well as the openSUSE list. > Even all of the responses seem nearly the

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 01:13 PM, Alan J. Gagne wrote: Try here ! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd Thanx, Alan, I've bookmarked it JIC. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guideline

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 12:58 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: It's a DSLAM (DSL Access Module), i.e. a card stuck into the phone company's switch. Thank you, Patrick. I knew it had a simple name, but after eight years of not needing to think about it I'd forgotten. -- users mailing list users@lists.fed

RE:/var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Alan J. Gagne
Try here ! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: h

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 12:04 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 21/12/11 19:59, Joe Zeff wrote: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html Excellent. Thank you. The odd thing here is that the link mentioned in that post already existed. And, I'd still appreciate a cheat she

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 12:25 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > What your ADSL modem connects to at the phone > company isn't a modem or a router, but I can't remember any more what > it's called. It's a DSLAM (DSL Access Module), i.e. a card stuck into the phone company's switch. poc -- users mailing l

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 10:04 AM, g wrote: even then, when i power back up, i go back into same dsl block; (adsl-184-41-x-x.mem.bellsouth.net[184.41.x.x]) Sorry to respond twice. It only just occurred to me that I should comment on this as well. What your ADSL modem connects to at the phone compa

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 10:04 AM, g wrote: only time it changes is when i do a full system power down, including ups, which brings down dsl modem. I used to do this type of stuff at an ISP. What you have is a fairly long lease on an IP. When that lease expires, your modem has to renew it. There's a

Re: /var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On 21/12/11 19:59, Joe Zeff wrote: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/410018.html -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedor

/var/log/messages

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
I just tried to check something in /var/log/messages and noticed something: the last entry was on Dec 6 when I rebooted to start the upgrade from F14 to F16. Since then, nothing. I presume that something was turned off during the upgrade but I don't know what and I don't know the syntax of th

Re: Long Boot Times, Again

2011-12-21 Thread Andrew Haley
On 12/21/2011 06:17 PM, Richard Heck wrote: > On 12/21/2011 12:42 PM, Richard Heck wrote: >> >> As suggested, I've run systemd-analyze, and get: >> >> /home/rgheck/ > systemd-analyze blame | head >> 60247ms sendmail.service >> 60228ms home-rgheck-files.mount >> 60192ms mnt-mail-multi.mount >>

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread nullv
Sorry about the top post. (I'm still replying from my phone BB OS 5 doesn't let you interleave or bottom post). True, on production systems I usually dual-stack but at home & on smaller networks I maintain I've used he.net to maintain various subnets over the last 3 years & have had hardly any

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 07:40 AM, Clive Hills wrote: I invoke Godwin's Law and mention Hitler. Can this just stop. Clive No. Mentioning him simply to end a thread doesn't count; you have to invoke him in anger. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

Re: Can't copy lists in Yumex...

2011-12-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/21/2011 05:17 AM, Christina Salls wrote: Nice!! Just tried your suggestion. Very handy. I am trying to keep documentation on all of my systems and compare installed packages. Thanks! Yes, tee is a neat little filter. I used it constantly when I was cleaning out duplicate packages af

Re: F16: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed

2011-12-21 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Hi, > > Since having upgraded to F16 from F14, I am drowning in messages similar to > the one below on the console (corrupting any console output) > > [ 1400.353433] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed > [ 1400.356601] sd 4:0:0:0

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread Reindl Harald
why are you killing the quote? you will not tell me that you would use any production environment through any tunnel to get an additionall point of failure nor can you provide any production-service ipv6 only you need ipv4 addresses this time public for each machine and thanks god win-xp for each

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread nullv
Loads of options in IPv6 tunnelling: tunnelbroker.net (hurricane electric), sixxs.net, ... You get your own ::/64 global subnet (or ::/48 if you prefer). Basically anyone can get a global v6 address. Even with a dynamic IPv4 address. And if you channel everything through your tunnel you basical

F16: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed

2011-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Hi, Since having upgraded to F16 from F14, I am drowning in messages similar to the one below on the console (corrupting any console output) [ 1400.353433] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed [ 1400.356601] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through accompanied by a mess

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread Reindl Harald
what is beautiful in enable anything while not have ipv6 on the WAN side or other work to migrate a company with all it's firewalls to a dual-stack? On 21.12.2011 17:58, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: > +1 > > - Oorspronkelijk bericht - > Van: nu...@gmx.com [mailto:nu...@gmx.com] > Verzonden

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread Reindl Harald
On 21.12.2011 17:27, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/disable-ipv6.conf >> options ipv6 disable=1 >> options net-pf-10 disable=1 > > The ipv6 module is now built-in to the kernel. This won't work. this DOES work because it did never p

Re: Long Boot Times, Again

2011-12-21 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/21/2011 12:42 PM, Richard Heck wrote: As suggested, I've run systemd-analyze, and get: /home/rgheck/ > systemd-analyze blame | head 60247ms sendmail.service 60228ms home-rgheck-files.mount 60192ms mnt-mail-multi.mount 2537ms udev-settle.service 1428ms rsyslog.service 1348ms mysql

Re: mouse and keyboard locking up [Solved - card reader was culprit - correction: problem caused by failing motherboard USB header/port]

2011-12-21 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/21/2011 12:37 PM, Pete Travis wrote: Some USB ports are designed to supply more power than others. It could be the header is functional, but can't supply as much current as the card reader would like. The two headers are side-by-side; somehow, I doubt that one would have greater delive

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread g
On 12/21/2011 11:57 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: <> > Your IP address is not necessarily constant. -=- only time it changes is when i do a full system power down, including ups, which brings down dsl modem. even then, when i power back up, i go back into same dsl block; (adsl-184-41-x-x.mem

Re: Can't copy lists in Yumex...

2011-12-21 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 20, 2011 5:40 PM, "Linda McLeod" wrote: > > Sure would be nice if I could bring up "installed" in Yumex, and copy > the list.. then paste that list into Yumex install for when I'm > rebuilding a freshly formatted hd, to eliminate the lengthy search in > Yumex in locating my many preferred

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread J.Witvliet
+1 - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: nu...@gmx.com [mailto:nu...@gmx.com] Verzonden: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 05:30 PM Aan: Community support for Fedora users Onderwerp: Re: ipv6 In /etc/sysconfig/network Add the line: IPV6_NETWORKING=no Don't know why you'd disable it though, IPv6

Re: Long Boot Times, Again

2011-12-21 Thread Richard Heck
On 12/21/2011 12:42 PM, Richard Heck wrote: As suggested, I've run systemd-analyze, and get: /home/rgheck/ > systemd-analyze blame | head 60247ms sendmail.service ... The other one of course is sendmail. I wonder if this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?format=multiple&id=7481

Long Boot Times, Again

2011-12-21 Thread Richard Heck
As suggested, I've run systemd-analyze, and get: /home/rgheck/ > systemd-analyze blame | head 60247ms sendmail.service 60228ms home-rgheck-files.mount 60192ms mnt-mail-multi.mount 2537ms udev-settle.service 1428ms rsyslog.service 1348ms mysqld.service 1146ms NetworkManager.service 1

Re: mouse and keyboard locking up [Solved - card reader was culprit - correction: problem caused by failing motherboard USB header/port]

2011-12-21 Thread Pete Travis
Some USB ports are designed to supply more power than others. It could be the header is functional, but can't supply as much current as the card reader would like. On Dec 21, 2011 9:37 AM, "Claude Jones" wrote: > On 12/20/2011 5:14 PM, Claude Jones wrote: > >> No one responded on this, but, in c

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Rich Boyce wrote: This takes affect after a reboot. There's another command you can use to make this work immediately, but it escapes me right now. # sysctl -p However, I would say it is best to put the disable lines in the network scripts. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Reindl Harald wrote: [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/disable-ipv6.conf options ipv6 disable=1 options net-pf-10 disable=1 The ipv6 module is now built-in to the kernel. This won't work. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: h

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread Reindl Harald
On 21.12.2011 15:58, Andrea Bencini wrote: > I installed Fedorara 16 without GUI (command line). I would like disable ipv6. > Can you help me? > Andrea [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/disable-ipv6.conf options ipv6 disable=1 options net-pf-10 disable=1 signature.asc Description: Ope

Re: mouse and keyboard locking up [Solved - card reader was culprit - correction: problem caused by failing motherboard USB header/port]

2011-12-21 Thread Claude Jones
On 12/20/2011 5:14 PM, Claude Jones wrote: No one responded on this, but, in case someone else has similar problems. The issue was caused by a card reader with three or four different slots in it for various sized cards, plus a USB port. Unplugging if from the machine has cured the problem. Plug

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread Rich Boyce
On 21/12/11 16:00, Steven Stern wrote: > On 12/21/2011 09:58 AM, Andrea Bencini wrote: >> I installed Fedorara 16 without GUI (command line). I would like disable >> ipv6. >> Can you help me? >> Andrea > > system-config-network or just edit > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-yournetworkadapte

alternatives to revisor or "fixes" for creating fedora remixes

2011-12-21 Thread John Maclean
Hi Chaps, First post so do tell me to move onto another list if this is not the right place. I wanted to start using revisor but kept facing the "/anaconda/-runtime not installed" error. Have not got around to overcoming this err just yet. So what else do people use nowadays to create thier

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread nullv
You also might want to disable IPv6INIT in your adapters (ie, = no), In /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* --Original Message-- From: Andrea Bencini Sender: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org ReplyTo: Community support for Fedora users Subject: ipv6

Re: [OT] Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread 夜神 岩男
On 12/21/2011 09:19 PM, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: if they really wanted to know, they could check my ip address. :-) Your IP address is not necessarily constant. And if you want to mask it you can use TOR, but we're getting way

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread nullv
In /etc/sysconfig/network Add the line: IPV6_NETWORKING=no Don't know why you'd disable it though, IPv6 is such a beautiful thing... ;) Sorry for top-posting, replied from my BB phone --Original Message-- From: Andrea Bencini Sender: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org To: us

Re: ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/21/2011 09:58 AM, Andrea Bencini wrote: > I installed Fedorara 16 without GUI (command line). I would like disable ipv6. > Can you help me? > Andrea system-config-network or just edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-yournetworkadapter -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fed

ipv6

2011-12-21 Thread Andrea Bencini
I installed Fedorara 16 without GUI (command line). I would like disable ipv6. Can you help me? Andrea -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 15:40 +, Clive Hills wrote: > I invoke Godwin's Law and mention Hitler. Gratuitous invocations don't count. > > Can this just stop. > Clive -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Mathematical Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorap

Re: нумерация страниц в disser

2011-12-21 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 12/21/11, Hiisi Troll wrote: > From: Hiisi Troll > Subject: нумерация страниц в disser > To: "Community support for Fedora users" > Date: Wednesday, December 21, 2011, 7:43 AM > Здравствуйте! > Кто-нибудь подскажет, как убрать > номер на последней странице > автореферата? Под рекв

нумерация страниц в disser

2011-12-21 Thread Hiisi Troll
Здравствуйте! Кто-нибудь подскажет, как убрать номер на последней странице автореферата? Под реквизитами типографии всё время появляется номер страницы. Не помогает даже \thispagestyle{empty}! TIA -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privil

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Clive Hills wrote: > Can this just stop. What to be stopped? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Maili

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Clive Hills
I invoke Godwin's Law and mention Hitler. Can this just stop. Clive -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a qu

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Tim wrote: > Though be aware that Live CDs are a poor demonstration.  For one thing, > they're a slow medium.  So don't be put off trying a proper installation > if the demonstration isn't that good. Oh yes, but I can install from Live CD only and then just updat

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > a) such deals are not uncommon in the commercial world. It's only that SUSE > uses this deal for marketing purposes, while there probably exist similar > deals, the public simply never will know about. > b) whom to consider the devil is (m

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 15:34 +0530, Rameshwar Kr. Sharma wrote: > either Fedora or Ubuntu, but without actually practically seeing I > really cannot comments. Thanks to the developers that they created the > use of Live CDs without which it seems a more typical kind or thing to > judge a distro. Th

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Antonio Olivares
> c) Times are changing: Though Microsoft and Linux > definitely are not close friends, Microsoft's attitude > towards Linux has changed at least to some extend. Also, the > real threats to Linux and FLOSS is not Microsoft, anymore. > Yes, indeed times are changing. I hear that Microsoft's attit

Re: Can't copy lists in Yumex...

2011-12-21 Thread Christina Salls
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Kevin Martin wrote: > > > On 12/21/2011 07:17 AM, Christina Salls wrote: > > Nice!! Just tried your suggestion. Very handy. I am trying to keep > documentation on all of my systems and compare installed packages. Thanks! > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Jo

Re: Can't copy lists in Yumex...

2011-12-21 Thread Kevin Martin
On 12/21/2011 07:17 AM, Christina Salls wrote: > Nice!! Just tried your suggestion. Very handy. I am trying to keep > documentation on all of my systems and compare installed > packages. Thanks! > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Joe Zeff > wrote: > > On 12/20/201

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/21/2011 02:15 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: Fedora is not constrained by cooperating with Microsoft... I really didn't understand this sentence and its hidden (may be) meaning. Opensuses' 'agreement' with Microsoft http://www.suse.com/company/press/2011/7/microsoft-and-suse-renew-suc

Re: Fedora vs openSUSE

2011-12-21 Thread Rameshwar Kr. Sharma
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > This is entirely up to you :)  You decide.  If you like OpenSUSE, use it.   > Deals of sleeping with the devil by M$ should not discourage you right? > If you are on users list at fedoraproject, why not Fedora?  This community is > for

Re: Can't copy lists in Yumex...

2011-12-21 Thread Christina Salls
Nice!! Just tried your suggestion. Very handy. I am trying to keep documentation on all of my systems and compare installed packages. Thanks! On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/20/2011 04:39 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: > >> Sure would be nice if I could bring up "installed"

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