On 12/17/2011 11:10 PM, g wrote:
On 12/18/2011 06:31 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
<>
They'll get thunderbird, but no email (if they want it, I'll have to
have a reason).
-=-
thunderbird is email. firefox is web browser. tho, if they are savvy,
linux file browsers can be used for web browser.
On 12/17/2011 09:15 PM, sourcerer_...@riseup.net wrote:
Well, what is that reason?
The link I gave has an explanation. Basically, the system tries to find
a place big enough to hold the entire file instead of putting the first
chunk into the first place it finds. And, as it spreads files ou
On 12/18/2011 06:31 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
<>
> They'll get thunderbird, but no email (if they want it, I'll have to
> have a reason).
-=-
thunderbird is email. firefox is web browser. tho, if they are savvy,
linux file browsers can be used for web browser.
> Good point about gnome / kde
On 12/17/2011 10:41 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
A couple of notes for this thread.
Some BIOS's will not show the option for booting from a USB
device if the device isn't plugged in when first booted. I have 2005
ASUS motherboards in my classroom that do this.
I've also seen some newer machi
A couple of notes for this thread.
Some BIOS's will not show the option for booting from a USB
device if the device isn't plugged in when first booted. I have 2005
ASUS motherboards in my classroom that do this.
I've also seen some newer machines that will show the option with
the F12 boot fu
inline
On 12/17/2011 10:02 PM, g wrote:
-=-
it is a sham/shame that stores do not have techs with more knowledge
than what they do. even tho most all systems are sold with oos, there
are still some that sell with linux.
therefore, give thought to set up a user home for tech to use and remove
On 12/18/2011 05:48 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
<>
> Wanted to get back on this while mulling / understanding the rest.
>
> Its an HP bios that has that pseudo-gui with the limited use of the
> arrow keys, return, f-keys, and esc. I went through every page looking
> for anything that looked re
On 12/18/2011 05:31 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> On 12/17/2011 9:10 PM, g wrote:
>> that is might decent of them. is there someone there that understand
>> linux enough to use it. ;-)
>>
>> as for what is installed. i would not worry about it unless it is something
>> of a private nature and no c
On 12/17/2011 8:42 PM, g wrote:
ok, to deal with bios upgrade.
does you bios boot show screens or a graphic banner?
does bios have ability to show 'detail' screens during boot?
if so, boot in that mode to see what is there. some will give an option
of 'other' or something to that effect.
also
On 12/17/2011 9:10 PM, g wrote:
that is might decent of them. is there someone there that understand
linux enough to use it. ;-)
as for what is installed. i would not worry about it unless it is something
of a private nature and no child porn. 8-D
main thing is that you do have a backup.
I
It might be available in rpmfusion-nonfree. Otherwise you'll have to
build it from scratch. Copyright problems, you know.
On 12/17/2011 06:51:32 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I went to import an mp3 audio into Audacity, and it reported that
> 'this
> version was not compiled with mp3 support'.
> Actually, the fact that Linux drives don't need regular defragging has
> nothing to do with the file system.
Well, what is that reason? I know that ext4 offers 'extents' and that
reduces fragmentation, but I don't see any other reason why the ext*
family of filesystems are more immune to fragmen
On 12/18/2011 04:49 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> Purposely top-posting this came in right as I sent my abandon email
> ... let me read and reevaluate.
-=-
ok.
t-minus 1 hour 40 minutes and counting. ;-)
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On 12/18/2011 04:48 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> I tried Plop and keep getting a message of "missing operating system".
-=-
hate to hear this.
<>
> Plus, Best Buy has told me that since the laptop isn't under warranty,
> they don't care what operating system is on it so long as they can log
>
Ed Greshko wrote:
>
> Well, it is F4. Nothing being outputted :-(
>
> top does show fsck.ext4 "running". Without fsck running it shows 99%
> idle and 0%wait. Running it does show a wait of 25% most of the
> timeso maybe it is doing something. I guess I'll let it go for a
> few hours be
On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 22:01 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:49:48 -0800
> Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> > Actually, the fact that Linux drives don't need regular defragging has
> > nothing to do with the file system.
>
> Actually the fact that linux drives don't get defragged is more
>
On 12/17/2011 10:26 PM, Linda McLeod wrote:
Quoting: "Or you could just set up syslog to use a remote server."
__
Isn't allowing any remote server stuff, the user compromising
security..?
No. You can have a remote syslog server behind yet another firewall
that ONLY lets sy
Purposely top-posting this came in right as I sent my abandon email
... let me read and reevaluate.
On 12/17/2011 8:42 PM, g wrote:
On 12/18/2011 01:55 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
<>
The "why" was that I don't understand what failed the first two times so
I really don't know what I did
I tried Plop and keep getting a message of "missing operating system".
Couldn't tell if it is Plop CD or Clonezilla USB (though I suspect the
latter since running Plop Linux boots up fine and works). The best I can
find via Google is that it needs grub and I would think that, if that is
true, t
On 12/17/2011 09:58 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I went to import an mp3 audio into Audacity, and it reported that 'this
version was not compiled with mp3 support'. Or words to that affect.
How do I get/add mp3 support to Audacity?
O
On 12/18/2011 01:55 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
<>
> The "why" was that I don't understand what failed the first two times so
> I really don't know what I did different the last time ... but as you
> said, I got the image and that's what matters
-=-
8-)
many things do not work 1st time, and i
Craig White wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-12-18 at 11:17 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>> OK, got an F15 system that went a bit bonkers. Things were pretty much
>> hung. So, forced a reboot and the fun begins
>>
>> The boot process appeared hung with the disk activity light on solid.
>> Booted to re
On Sun, 2011-12-18 at 11:17 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> OK, got an F15 system that went a bit bonkers. Things were pretty much
> hung. So, forced a reboot and the fun begins
>
> The boot process appeared hung with the disk activity light on solid.
> Booted to rescue mode.
>
> On one disk is
Quoting: "Or you could just set up syslog to use a remote server."
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OK, got an F15 system that went a bit bonkers. Things were pretty much
hung. So, forced a reboot and the fun begins
The boot process appeared hung with the disk activity light on solid.
Booted to rescue mode.
On one disk is /boot as well as vg_root. The second disk has vg_home.
/boot fsc
Gee I have not rebooted since installing the LAST kernel update!
Well here we go again
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On 12/17/2011 09:58 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I went to import an mp3 audio into Audacity, and it reported that 'this
version was not compiled with mp3 support'. Or words to that affect.
How do I get/add mp3 support to Audacity?
O
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:49:48 -0800
Joe Zeff wrote:
> Actually, the fact that Linux drives don't need regular defragging has
> nothing to do with the file system.
Actually the fact that linux drives don't get defragged is more
because there are no defragging tools than because there wouldn't
be a
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I went to import an mp3 audio into Audacity, and it reported that 'this
> version was not compiled with mp3 support'. Or words to that affect.
>
> How do I get/add mp3 support to Audacity?
>
>
> Or for this particular need, I have 2 sides
I went to import an mp3 audio into Audacity, and it reported that 'this
version was not compiled with mp3 support'. Or words to that affect.
How do I get/add mp3 support to Audacity?
Or for this particular need, I have 2 sides of a cassett tape in mp3
format, and I want to join them into one
On 12/17/2011 06:35 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
We Linux users usually make fun of Windows users for having to defragment
their hard drives every now and then, while our ext2/3/4 solution is sooo far
superior.
Actually, the fact that Linux drives don't need regular defragging has
nothing to do
On Saturday 17 December 2011 21:17:19 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-12-18 at 01:37 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > On Saturday 17 December 2011 19:41:38 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > This looks like a regression. Under F15 when I wrote large files to
> > > a
> > > pendrive, the sys
[edited and inline]
On 12/17/2011 6:57 AM, g wrote:
On 12/17/2011 08:06 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
[...] took three tries and I don't understand why, but I was
able to get an image onto a USB.
-=-
"I don't understand why" what? that i worked? i is supposed to work. ;)
main thing is that yo
On Sun, 2011-12-18 at 01:37 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Saturday 17 December 2011 19:41:38 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > This looks like a regression. Under F15 when I wrote large files to a
> > pendrive, the system would become a little sluggish. Now it essentially
> > freezes until the wr
On Saturday 17 December 2011 19:41:38 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> This looks like a regression. Under F15 when I wrote large files to a
> pendrive, the system would become a little sluggish. Now it essentially
> freezes until the write terminates. What I mean is that the UI is almost
> completely
This looks like a regression. Under F15 when I wrote large files to a
pendrive, the system would become a little sluggish. Now it essentially
freezes until the write terminates. What I mean is that the UI is almost
completely unresponsive; even clicking between two terminal windows is
so slow that
Is the network service still available in Fedora-16
as an alternative to NM (NetworkManager)?
Or has it just become an interface to NM?
Yesterday, NM went into some kind of fit on my Fedora/KDE laptop,
with a small window entitled "Secret" appearing on my desktop,
with a space to write a password,
Marko Vojinovic,
It should be the way you say.
Em 16-12-2011 22:48, Marko Vojinovic escreveu:
> On Friday 16 December 2011 23:54:10 Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 16.12.2011 23:50, schrieb Erik P. Olsen:
>>> I have installed VirtualBox-4.0-4.0.14_74382_fedora14-1.x86_64 and have
>>> been running it f
Germán A. Racca,
Em 16-12-2011 22:47, "Germán A. Racca" escreveu:
> On 12/16/2011 09:34 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 17.12.2011 00:17, schrieb Erik P. Olsen:
>>> On 16/12/11 23:54, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 16.12.2011 23:50, schrieb Erik P. Olsen:
> I have installed Virtua
Michael Cronenworth,
Sorry it should be the way you said but, I had a very bad experience
doing this.
Fact:
I updated from Fedora14-x86_64 to Fedora16-x86_64 host, and I thought
VirtualBox-4.0 was ok. When I started Winvista64 Guest I got the message:
BOOTMGR is compressed Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to
It is strange working on a machine with only a half of a screen. Anyway,
that will be resolved on Tuesday. But I digress.
Has anyone heard of a WiDi for Linux project? Maybe a wrapper? For those
unaware, this is Intel's wireless display streaming protocal. With Win7
and a $50.00 adaptor connected
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:19:14 -0500
William Case wrote:
> I think I remember reading a suggestion here about how to get a list of
> the main or core programs on my machine.
I use this command to get just the names and architecture
of rpms installed, leaving out the specific version numbers
which m
On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 16:19 -0500, William Case wrote:
> I think I remember reading a suggestion here about how to get a list of
> the main or core programs on my machine. It was -- I think -- an rpm or
> yum list command of some kind + grep. I don't want every plugin or
> update or library just
> So if the expected result is for me to have a working gnome shell I
> wonder if it might be something screwy with my install. I preupgraded
> both of the boxes from F14 to F16 directly. Is there any way of finding
> out why it would believe these cards can't support 3d acceleration?
~/.xsessi
I think I remember reading a suggestion here about how to get a list of
the main or core programs on my machine. It was -- I think -- an rpm or
yum list command of some kind + grep. I don't want every plugin or
update or library just the main program.
I am about to do a virgin install of Fedora
Am 17.12.2011 19:11, schrieb Lucélio Gomes de Freitas:
> Reindl Harald,
>
> I did exactly this.
>
> I updated from Fedora14-x86_64 to Fedora16-x86_64 host, and I thought
> VirtualBox-4.0 was ok. When I started
> Winvista64 Guest I got the message:
>
> BOOTMGR is compressed Press Ctrl-Alt-Del
Reindl Harald,
I did exactly this.
I updated from Fedora14-x86_64 to Fedora16-x86_64 host, and I thought
VirtualBox-4.0 was ok. When I started Winvista64 Guest I got the message:
BOOTMGR is compressed Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart
I did it, and the Winvista64 boot started again and stoped at th
Hi,
I just moved from Fedora 14 to Fedora 16. Since I had decided to
excahnge my 500 GB hard disk with to 1 TB disks I did a clean install of
Fedora 16. I have a HP Photosmart Prem c310 AllInOne. It is connected to
my computer via USB. In Fedora 14 I installed hplip-gui and the scanner
was th
On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:25:40 -0700
linux guy wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
> example http://www.hitachigst.com/support/downloads/#DFT
> >
> > Its an SSD - you want SSD tools from the vendor not random spinning rust
> > tools.
>
> Thanks Allan. None of these tools a
Hi all;
I get this error every time I login, Fedora 15 x86_64, using KDE & kdm.
process /usr/bin/virtuoso-t killed by signal 11
Thoughts?
Thanks in advance...
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Tim:
>> Well, if you are being security minded, logs on the same machine
>> can't be trusted. Because someone who can break in, can do
>> something to change the logging. ;-)
Jake Shipton:
> This is true, which is why most of my logs are mailed locally to a
> separate user account which is sole
Am 17.12.2011 17:19, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 12/17/2011 07:52 AM, jarmo wrote:
>> And tellin what? ZM does not work... It's not enough to do
>> bugreport.
>
> I wish more people had your attitude.
if you compile it and it works there must be something wrong in the package
maybe some options diff
On 12/17/2011 07:52 AM, jarmo wrote:
And tellin what? ZM does not work... It's not enough to do
bugreport.
I wish more people had your attitude. I'm on the CC list for an
alacarte bug as I'm one of the reporters. Out of over 100 comments,
almost all of them are bug reports with comments tha
On 12/16/2011 04:40 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 12/16/2011 02:22 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote:
>> Sorry sir did not mean to afiend anyone.
>
> It's not a matter of offense. This list is public and I don't think you want
> to be telling everybody on it how to connect to your
> computer.
Yep, I agree.
lauantai, 17. joulukuuta 2011 16:24:01 Reindl Harald kirjoitti:
> so why do you not notice that you know the package-managment
> if you are sure what answer you get and consider making a
> brugreport instead permanently doing the same?
And tellin what? ZM does not work... It's not enough to do
bu
On 17/12/11 15:41, jarmo wrote:
Yes, kernel-heders, but nothing provides VIDEODEV.h.
But no problem, there is newer version of zoneminder.
I start struggle with that. :D I tried compile that also
and videodev is not, where it stops.
Thanks for all
Jarmo
This may help you:
http://lists.fedora
lauantai, 17. joulukuuta 2011 08:54:58 Richard Shaw kirjoitti:
>
> # repoquery --whatprovides /usr/include*/videodev2.h
> uClibc-devel-0:0.9.32-2.fc16.x86_64
> kernel-headers-0:3.1.0-7.fc16.x86_64
> kernel-headers-0:3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64
> uClibc-devel-0:0.9.32-2.fc16.i686
>
> It's probably kernel
Am 17.12.2011 16:11, schrieb jarmo:
> lauantai, 17. joulukuuta 2011 14:19:53 Frank Murphy kirjoitti:
>> On 17/12/11 14:10, jarmo wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> Just tried to compile zoneminder i fc 16,
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> yum install zoneminder
>
> I was sure, i get this answer, sorry, package does not worky, if
lauantai, 17. joulukuuta 2011 14:19:53 Frank Murphy kirjoitti:
> On 17/12/11 14:10, jarmo wrote:
> > Hi
> > Just tried to compile zoneminder i fc 16,
>
> Why?
>
> yum install zoneminder
>
> but configure stops into
>
> > videodev.h missing. I.E configure: error: zm requires Video4Linux
to be
Hi All,
I just completed an upgrade of my system from FC16 32bit to FC16 64bit.
During the upgrade I reformatted all disks, except for the /home mount.
I retained /home so all my personal settings were retained correctly.
Everything seems to have worked great, except that gnome-shell is
missing
On 12/17/2011 08:06 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> On 12/13/2011 4:09 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
>>
>> My estimate is that I will have materials in a day or two and then
>> another day or two to finish up checking out all the suggestions I've
>> got. I am estimating that I'll test one or both o
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 8:10 AM, jarmo wrote:
> Hi
> Just tried to compile zoneminder i fc 16, but configure stops into
> videodev.h missing. I.E configure: error: zm requires Video4Linux to be
> installed. Where I find video4linux packages for fc16?
>
> I guess, have to have -devel, to get .h.
>
On 17/12/11 14:10, jarmo wrote:
Hi
Just tried to compile zoneminder i fc 16,
Why?
yum install zoneminder
but configure stops into
videodev.h missing. I.E configure: error: zm requires Video4Linux to be
installed. Where I find video4linux packages for fc16?
http://packages.atrpms.net/dist
Hi
Just tried to compile zoneminder i fc 16, but configure stops into
videodev.h missing. I.E configure: error: zm requires Video4Linux to be
installed. Where I find video4linux packages for fc16?
I guess, have to have -devel, to get .h.
Atrpms there is something, but it brings videodev2.h file,
On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 13:49 +, Jake Shipton wrote:
> On 17/12/11 12:40, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 11:26 +, Jake Shipton wrote:
> >>> Well, if you are being security minded, logs on the same machine
> >> can't
> >>> be trusted. Because someone who can break in, ca
On 17/12/11 12:40, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 11:26 +, Jake Shipton wrote:
>>> Well, if you are being security minded, logs on the same machine
>> can't
>>> be trusted. Because someone who can break in, can do something to
>>> change the logging. ;-)
>>>
>> This is tru
On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 11:26 +, Jake Shipton wrote:
> > Well, if you are being security minded, logs on the same machine
> can't
> > be trusted. Because someone who can break in, can do something to
> > change the logging. ;-)
> >
> This is true, which is why most of my logs are mailed locall
what does the system try to tell me?
the same user on another computer with id 492 instead 491
there is no user "clamav" on no machine where it works too
[root@localhost:~]$ freshclam
WARNING: Can't get information about user clamav.
[root@localhost:~]$ cat /etc/passwd | grep clamav
clamupdate:x:
On 17/12/11 10:09, Tim wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 14:39 +, Jake Shipton wrote:
>> Though my system is logged like a server should be, even though it's
>> just a plain and simple desktop on ethernet behind a router & firewall
>> not moving anywhere.. but I do like to know what my system does
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 14:39 +, Jake Shipton wrote:
> Though my system is logged like a server should be, even though it's
> just a plain and simple desktop on ethernet behind a router & firewall
> not moving anywhere.. but I do like to know what my system does. I
> probably would detect a break
On 12/13/2011 4:09 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
My estimate is that I will have materials in a day or two and then
another day or two to finish up checking out all the suggestions I've
got. I am estimating that I'll test one or both over the weekend.
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