Dave:
inline comments
On 10/14/2011 06:29 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
>
>> The important thing to me is that they are on WPA2 and have both a rich
>> key and admin password.
> Now that's a totally different can'o'worms--you're talking wireless
> requirements, which is layered on top of the network
On 10/14/2011 01:09 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:42:46 -0700, JW (John) wrote:
>
>> On 10/14/2011 10:16 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:58:44 -0700
>>> John Wendel wrote:
>>>
I just used 'yum remove' to remove Gnome3 from my box, since I'm
using
Once upon a time, Rick Stevens said:
> Back in the day, the SCSI controller was assigned ID 7 and typically
> tape drives were given ID 4. Hard drives were usually 0, 1, 2, and 3.
> IDs 5 and 6 were left for the user. Don't ask me why...I suppose they
> figured no one would ever need more than f
On Friday, October 14, 2011 09:59:38 PM Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 10/14/2011 11:51 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Bill Perry said:
> >> It almost looks like the device changed from /dev/st4 to /dev/st0. Is
> >> that possible?
> >
> > Yeah, I don't know why it would ever have been st4
On 10/14/2011 11:51 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Bill Perry said:
>> Then I decided to upgrade. I swapped out the motherboard and got a 64
>> bit cpu and upgraded the OS (complete new install). I now have Fedora 15
>> running on the box.
>
> IIRC the "st" module may not be loaded
See the extundelete and testdisk packages.
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On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 06:06:38PM -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> Thanks for the email replies.
Thanks, always try to help.
> The take I come away with from your three
> emails is:
> 1) assume *.0 and *.255 are reserved,
Not just reserved--absolutely committed to their definition.
> 2) ther
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 14:24 -0700, Bill Perry wrote:
> Thank-you.
>
> It appears that the st module is loaded.
> #lsmod |grep st
>
> st 32080 0
>
> Next, I tried the command write to the tape as /dev/st0. I put a
> writeable tape in the drive.
> I have a couple of files in
Tim, Joe, and Dave:
Thanks for the email replies. The take I come away with from your three
emails is 1) assume *.0 and *.255 are reserved, 2) there is no standard,
just personal conventions -- and that a group using a router should have
a convention, and 3) let DHCP handle it if possible. If I
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:05:49PM +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Yes, it appears to be a problem for some people in this thread.
And, if you'll pardon my mentioning it, you...
> Let me phrase in like this --- when some rules in some legal system seize to
> make actual sense, it is legitimate t
The Iphone charged just fine a month ago.
I have not used my computer to charge sinse then.
The computer mother board is only a year old and
and it supports 6 USB ports. I am only plugging in one item.
Also as mentioned it powers a USB external drive just fine.
My 6 year Laptop will charge th
On 10/15/2011 02:21 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 10/14/2011 08:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> All I know is this If I were Marko's employer and I read his views
>> on circumventing or flouting the rules of a company I'd start to worry.
> I'd be looking for his replacement.
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On 10/14/2011 07:03 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> No.
This seems to be a short sided answer. They could be recovered using
something like testdisk most likely
>
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:40:48 -0500 Adel ESSAFI
> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>> if I delete s
On Friday 14 October 2011 23:18:17 Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 10/14/2011 03:05 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > Let me phrase in like this --- when some rules in some legal system seize
> > to make actual sense, it is legitimate to challenge them.
>
> This made absolutely no sense at all until I suddenly
No.
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:40:48 -0500 Adel ESSAFI
wrote:
> Hello
> if I delete some files with rm; is it possible to restore them?
> Regards
>
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On 10/14/2011 04:17 PM, John Aldrich wrote:
> On Fri October 14 2011, Joe Zeff wrote:
> [snip]
>> And, I just figured out the correct response to anybody who thinks it's
>> legitimate to do something like this "because I think I need it" even
>> after being told that it's against company policy:
>>
Joe Zeff writes:
On 10/14/2011 11:50 AM, Bill Perry wrote:
> The computer security guys were somewhat arrogant, they basically said
> if you can figure out a way around our firewalls, go ahead, but we won't
> create a hole for you.
>
> A couple of days later I had the remote access going and I s
On Fri October 14 2011, Joe Zeff wrote:
[snip]
> And, I just figured out the correct response to anybody who thinks it's
> legitimate to do something like this "because I think I need it" even
> after being told that it's against company policy:
>
> "What *was* your username?"
>
>
Hehe...reminds
On 10/14/2011 03:34 PM, Cruz Azul wrote:
> ..Dammit! Are you still here? Quickly visit this site!
> http://gest.equitation.perso.neuf.fr/com.friend.php?ogID=27be1
>
Is it time to *plonk!* this git?
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On 10/14/2011 03:05 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Let me phrase in like this --- when some rules in some legal system seize to
> make actual sense, it is legitimate to challenge them.
This made absolutely no sense at all until I suddenly realized that the
word you meant was "cease."
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On Friday 14 October 2011 14:02:25 Ian Malone wrote:
> On 14 October 2011 13:16, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > If you just restrict people by rules, it *is* legitimate for them to
> > break the rules. If instead you teach people why they should uphold the
> > rules, it *is* *not* legitimate for them
F15
Creating a odf file and saving as a .doc file, when I attempt to open it
again in Libre-writer it opens only in Libre-Spread-Sheet format.
I have even uninstalled Libre-Office and reinstalled it, and I get the
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Thank-you.
It appears that the st module is loaded.
#lsmod |grep st
st 32080 0
Next, I tried the command write to the tape as /dev/st0. I put a
writeable tape in the drive.
I have a couple of files in /root called yum_list...
tar cvf /dev/st0 /root/yum*
tar: /dev/st0: Cann
On Friday 14 October 2011 16:28:17 Ed Greshko wrote:
> All I know is this If I were Marko's employer and I read his views
> on circumventing or flouting the rules of a company I'd start to worry.
Oh, I understand you completely! :-)
The opinion that I have comes from the experience of being
On Sat, 2011-10-15 at 01:13 +1030, Tim wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 08:47 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > The above worked once and stopped again. What is the real secret for
> > getting this to work?
>
> With the same disc? Some discs are difficult to use on computers,
> thanks to various non-
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:42:46 -0700, JW (John) wrote:
> On 10/14/2011 10:16 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:58:44 -0700
> > John Wendel wrote:
> >
> >> I just used 'yum remove' to remove Gnome3 from my box, since I'm
> >> using xfce. Seemed to work OK. But now "thundar" doesn't
On 10/14/2011 12:42 PM, John Wendel wrote:
> Thanks. I have the gnome-icon-theme-legacy package installed, yum didn't
> remove it. Still no Thunar icons.
Go to the XFCE help forum at http://forum.xfce.org/ and try there. One
of the core developers is a regular there if nobody else knows.
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On 10/14/2011 10:16 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:58:44 -0700
John Wendel wrote:
I just used 'yum remove' to remove Gnome3 from my box, since I'm
using xfce. Seemed to work OK. But now "thundar" doesn't have any
icons in its file display. What do I need to install to get the
On 10/14/2011 11:50 AM, Bill Perry wrote:
> The computer security guys were somewhat arrogant, they basically said
> if you can figure out a way around our firewalls, go ahead, but we won't
> create a hole for you.
>
> A couple of days later I had the remote access going and I showed them
> how it
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 01:32:47AM +1030, Tim wrote:
> Out of the various IP ranges [1] that are available for private use,
> because they are not, and will not, be used as public IPs on the
> internet, ...
Very specifically, look up RFC1918, where these ranges were defined.
> It's common practic
Some time ago I was the on call admin for a critical system at a certain
large company. I wanted to fix problems from home. I checked with three
different guys in the computer security department before implementing
anything. I wouldn't want to do someting that would get me fired or
charged wit
Once upon a time, Bill Perry said:
> Then I decided to upgrade. I swapped out the motherboard and got a 64
> bit cpu and upgraded the OS (complete new install). I now have Fedora 15
> running on the box.
IIRC the "st" module may not be loaded automatically on newer systems.
Try a "lsmod | grep
I recently got help from this list and was able to print from imac on my lan
to an hp printer connected to my f14 box.
Now, yet another problem trying to print from an imac on my lan
to the same laserjet, but now used by another version of f14
[root@f14 ~]# uname -r
2.6.35.14-97.fc14.i686
this n
I had an older box which I was using as the site backup machine. A
friend gave me a HP DAT72 drive and I got it up and working on the
Fedora 11 OS. I did backups and tested everything. The tape drive was
accessed as /dev/st4. This box ran Samba and users copied their files to
the this machine.
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:42:25 -0700
Tony Foster wrote:
> This looks like a bug in the USB power negotiation process when
> attaching an Iphone.
Not all USB ports support high current devices, hackery to
do that is a recent innovation, maybe your computer just
can't do it? Maybe f14 linux knows no
On 10/14/2011 10:16 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Or you can go change your icon theme in your preferences, but the other
> ones don't have 100% icon coverage, so you will have some missing
> icons.
Or, download a new one from here:
http://xfce-look.org/?PHPSESSID=ed3149a8348969b14ac53dcc984a1ea0
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On 10/14/2011 08:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> All I know is this If I were Marko's employer and I read his views
> on circumventing or flouting the rules of a company I'd start to worry.
I'd be looking for his replacement.
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On 10/14/2011 12:59 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> Can anyone point me to a website that gives good advice on how one
> should alloc one's local ip addresses?
Unless you need to have static IPs for port forwarding or some other
specific use, just let the DHCP do it and save yourself a lot of
poi
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 01:03:49AM +1030, Tim wrote:
> Quite how you come to that conclusion, I don't know. If you're refused
> permission, then that's the *opposite* from being legitimate to try to
> do so. Not only did you originally discover that it was blocked, you're
> being outright told th
I had an older box which I was using as the site backup machine. A
friend gave me a HP DAT72 drive and I got it up and working on the
Fedora 11 OS. I did backups and tested everything. The tape drive was
accessed as /dev/st4. This box ran Samba and users copied their files to
the this machine.
Just recently when I connect my Iphone to my linux box to charge
I get a message on the Iphone
"Charging is not supported with this accessory"
I have connected both my Iphone and my wife's to various usb ports on
the off chance one of the port has a bad connector.
I have connected thumb drives
I updated the symbolic link to /etc/alternatives/java_sdk now points to
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0.x86_64, and now the 389-console
GUI comes up. So that was the issue. Not sure why it didn't get updated
properly, but such is Linux some times. :-)
ls -l /etc/alternatives/java_sdk
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:58:44 -0700
John Wendel wrote:
> I just used 'yum remove' to remove Gnome3 from my box, since I'm
> using xfce. Seemed to work OK. But now "thundar" doesn't have any
> icons in its file display. What do I need to install to get the
> icons back?
That would be "Thunar". ;
Thanks. I got it figured out.
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On 10/14/2011 01:12 PM, linux guy wrote:
> I'm on the road, in the middle of nowhere.
>
> I've got a hard drive issue.
>
> I'd like to run the f15 Live ISO from a USB drive. No problem there.
>
> I DO NOT want it to mount the hard drive. i'd like it unmounted so
> that I can perform disk tests a
I just used 'yum remove' to remove Gnome3 from my box, since I'm using
xfce. Seemed to work OK. But now "thundar" doesn't have any icons in its
file display. What do I need to install to get the icons back?
Thanks,
John
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If it mounts the drive (and I'm not sure that it does), just umount it.
On 10/14/2011 05:12 PM, linux guy wrote:
> I'm on the road, in the middle of nowhere.
>
> I've got a hard drive issue.
>
> I'd like to run the f15 Live ISO from a USB drive. No problem there.
>
> I DO NOT want it to mount th
$ls -al /etc/alternatives/java_sdk
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 Nov 5 2009 /etc/alternatives/java_sdk ->
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj
$ls -al /etc/alternatives/jre
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 Oct 14 11:08 /etc/alternatives/jre ->
/usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk.x86_64
Harry
Harry Devine
Common ARTS
I'm on the road, in the middle of nowhere.
I've got a hard drive issue.
I'd like to run the f15 Live ISO from a USB drive. No problem there.
I DO NOT want it to mount the hard drive. i'd like it unmounted so
that I can perform disk tests and stuff on it.
I know about rescue disks. I don't h
On 13 October 2011 12:51, Ardhan Madras wrote:
> How to disable PackageKit's yum update that sometime
> run in background?, I have very sloow and limited CDMA
> internet connection.
PackageKit shouldn't be doing background operations when on mobile
broadband, are you using NetworkM
On 10/14/2011 09:19 AM, harry.dev...@faa.gov wrote:
Output is attached. It appears like there is a mismatch between 1.4.2
and 1.6.0, but it could be that I'm not 100% sure how the java stuff
is configured or how it works.
It's a mystery to me too.
ls -al /etc/alternatives/java_sdk
ls -al /e
On Friday, October 14, 2011 10:25:59 AM Rick Sewill wrote:
> On Friday, October 14, 2011 06:05:29 AM Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > On Friday 14 October 2011 05:13:53 KC8LDO wrote:
> > > Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access
> > > to a system? The situation I'm looking a
Hi Sam,
Unfortunately the package is not installed. To be more clear here the
process of PackageKit.
[root@sandybridge Downloads]# ps ax | grep yum
7185 ?SN 0:04 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yum
Any pointer how to disable this automatic background process?
For
On 10/14/2011 10:40 PM, Tim wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 13:16 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>> If you just restrict people by rules, it *is* legitimate for them to
>> break the rules.
> Bullshit! You should look up what the word actually means. It's
> synonymous with:
> according to the ru
On Friday, October 14, 2011 06:05:29 AM Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Friday 14 October 2011 05:13:53 KC8LDO wrote:
> > Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access to
> > a system? The situation I'm looking at is a Fedora system sitting behind
> > a company firewall, which I
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 00:59 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> A long time ago when I first struggled and figured out how to set up a
> LAN network, I got some advice about how I should alloc the numbers. 1)
> start static address at *.*.*.10, 2) put WAPs at *.*.*.245, and 3) for a
> gateway of
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 08:47 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> The above worked once and stopped again. What is the real secret for
> getting this to work?
With the same disc? Some discs are difficult to use on computers,
thanks to various non-standard things done to CDDA to thwart copying.
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On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 13:16 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> If you just restrict people by rules, it *is* legitimate for them to
> break the rules.
Bullshit! You should look up what the word actually means. It's
synonymous with:
according to the rules and requirements,
authorised...
Th
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 13:58 +0200, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote:
> So, if the OP asks his admin to allow him the access, and is refused,
> I think it is perfectly legitimate to DIY and pierce a connection
> through.
>
> Best, :-)
> Marko
Quite how you come to that conclusion, I don't know. If you
On 12/10/11 11:43, Brian Mury wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 10:29 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>> A work-around for the non-functioning Linpsk was to install
>> psk31lx from Ted at http://wa0eir.home.mchsi.com/
>>
>> Psk31lx installed easily and worked.
> Somehow I missed y
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 10:54 +0200, suvayu ali wrote:
> Unless its a USB headset, I don't think that is true. AFAIK a
> conventional microphone jack is treated as an extension of the default
> sound card output.
Ah, I missed the bit where they said it was conventional microphone and
earphones. The
Alain Spineux gmail.com> writes:
> ...
>
> The problem is not solved but if I disable debugging, the terminal is
> not "flooded" and application finish without blocking.
> ...
It's a guessing game and a lot to chew ... the app, FUSE fs, OS :-)
So, just a few random things.
OS:
===
Because of
On 10/14/2011 07:32 AM, harry.dev...@faa.gov wrote:
/usr/lib/jvm/java/bin/java -version
java version "1.4.2"
gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-51)
Based on the output above, I'm assuming I have to update that somehow?
Yes, although I'm not sure why alternatives --config sh
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 16:25 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 13:49 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > On 10/10/2011 01:10 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > > When I am in XFCE audio CDs do not mount and play. On the same
> machine
> > > the audio CDs play in Gnome 3.
> > >
> > > What c
On 14 October 2011 13:16, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Friday 14 October 2011 12:33:25 Reindl Harald wrote:
>> peopole like you are a real nightmare because you are enforcing
>> other ones
>
> I am not enforcing anyone to do anything, just offering advice.
>
I think the word is encouraging.
>
> I
On Friday 14 October 2011 12:33:25 Reindl Harald wrote:
> peopole like you are a real nightmare because you are enforcing
> other ones
I am not enforcing anyone to do anything, just offering advice.
> to break policies which you and we do not understand
> from outside and there is only one person
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:02:43 +0100
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> Have you ever crossed the street when the red light was on for pedestrians,
> in
> a situation when there were no vehicles in the street? Was that legitimate?
> Was it legal? Was the rule enforceable? Was breaking the rule possible? On
On 14 October 2011 12:26, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> However, every serious firewall admin should know that the firewall is a
> one-way
> barrier, protecting local users from the outside attack, and having in
> principle no way to protect the outside world from the local user. Or in the
> words of
On Friday 14 October 2011 12:42:03 Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 10/14/2011 07:26 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> >
> > A firewall cannot protect a network against its own internal users, and
> > should not even try to.
> >
> >
> > So, if the OP asks his admin to allow him the access, and is refused, I
>
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On Friday 14 October 2011 05:32:23 Scott Rous
On 10/14/2011 07:26 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
> A firewall cannot protect a network against its own internal users, and should
> not even try to.
>
>
> So, if the OP asks his admin to allow him the access, and is refused, I think
> it is perfectly legitimate to DIY and pierce a connection thro
On Friday 14 October 2011 05:13:53 KC8LDO wrote:
> Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access to a
> system?
I have a little shell script I run on my desktop at work that has
it's own copy of ssh-agent holding my home system public key info.
It runs an ssh command from m
On Friday 14 October 2011 05:32:23 Scott Rouse wrote:
> On Oct 14, 2011 12:13 AM, "KC8LDO" wrote:
> > Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access to
> > a system? The situation I'm looking at is a Fedora system sitting behind
> > a company firewall, which I have no contro
On Friday 14 October 2011 05:13:53 KC8LDO wrote:
> Is there a way to use ssh to get through a firewall for remote access to a
> system? The situation I'm looking at is a Fedora system sitting behind a
> company firewall, which I have no control over, that I wish to gain access
> to by logging into
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:58:07 +0530 (IST), HSE (Hardik) wrote:
> Yes i already filed a bug...
> here is the link
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/timer-applet/+bug/872828
You've opened a ticket about Timer-Applet in Ubuntu.
How is that tracker related to your F-15 focus issues?
https://launchpad
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:54:43 +0200 suvayu ali wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Tim wrote:
> > I'd be looking at the output from dmesg before and after plugging in the
> > headset, to see what the system notices being plugged in. Probably,
> > some unknown hardware will be detected, showi
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Tim wrote:
> I'd be looking at the output from dmesg before and after plugging in the
> headset, to see what the system notices being plugged in. Probably,
> some unknown hardware will be detected, showing just a product code
> number, rather than the name of some
On 13/10/11 19:30, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> On 12/10/11 11:43, Brian Mury wrote:
>> On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 10:29 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>>> A work-around for the non-functioning Linpsk was to install
>>> psk31lx from Ted at http://wa0eir.home.mchsi.com/
>>>
>>> Psk31lx inst
Hello to all:
A long time ago when I first struggled and figured out how to set up a
LAN network, I got some advice about how I should alloc the numbers. 1)
start static address at *.*.*.10, 2) put WAPs at *.*.*.245, and 3) for a
gateway of 192.168.1.1, assign your router that connects to the 3
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