Re: Spot's Chromium repo abandoned?

2011-09-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/30/2011 02:02 AM, Konstantin Svist wrote: > I've been using Spot's Chromium repo to keep up to date, but apparently > nobody has been working on it as of late. > The "stable" version is 13.0.782, which is marked as "old" on > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome#Release_history and th

Managing startup applications using sysctl

2011-09-29 Thread Alex
Hi, I have a few older init.d scripts that I'd like to use with my fedora15 x86_64 system. However, they all don't start as expected and I can't figure out why. When running "service myprog start" it just gives a message like "Starting myprog (via systemctl): Job failed. See system logs and 'sy

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-09-29 Thread linux guy
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:33:27 -0600 > linux guy wrote: > > > Today I bought 2 3 TB hard drives to use in my new server. > > Did you actually get 2 that both worked? I was looking at > the reviews for 3TB drives on newegg recently and they > mak

Fedora Users responsibility to Developers [scratch] Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread jdow
1) Respect Writing software is not the slam dunk simple thing most people seem to think it to be based on their whining and carping. Please respect the effort. Dive in and try something simple yourself. A most interesting language is 2 year old child. Try to program one to make his room neat befor

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 18:08 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 09/29/2011 12:27 PM, Craig White wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 10:46 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: > >>> I vaguely recall the mantra... it's not a bug if it's not in bugzilla - > >>> does that not apply any more? > >> > >> Huh? > > >

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/30/2011 07:55 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > These repetitions exist because each party perceives "the other > side" not to listen, react, show insight, understand, etc. We can understand each other and still genuinely have a difference of opinion and approach. If you are around in the free s

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 19:03 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 29.09.2011 19:00, schrieb Joe Zeff: > > On 09/29/2011 04:27 AM, Craig White wrote: > >> I think you are now understanding why few developers monitor the various > >> users lists. > > > > They don't want to know what users think of the

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 10:00 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/29/2011 04:27 AM, Craig White wrote: > > I think you are now understanding why few developers monitor the various > > users lists. > > They don't want to know what users think of their work? Presuming that we are talking about the gen

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/30/2011 03:59 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 09/30/2011 01:04 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> >> i answered to "As a contributor, one real problem for me is the >> amount of noise one has to filter through to get any meaningful >> feedback" which came from a contributor which did NOT understand

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/30/2011 01:04 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > i answered to "As a contributor, one real problem for me is the > amount of noise one has to filter through to get any meaningful > feedback" which came from a contributor which did NOT understand > why so many complaints are coming As a contribut

Gnome-shell can't empty trash from removable (FAT) storage?

2011-09-29 Thread Richard Shaw
Has anyone else noticed this or can reproduce this problem? When I connect my android phone as a mass storage device it works as expected other than how long it takes to be detected. If I delete (move to trash) some files the trash bin icon stays "empty" and the empty trash icon remains grayed ou

Re: difference between "ping -I INTERFACE" and "ping -I IPADDRESS" ?

2011-09-29 Thread Kernel Guardian
On 29 September 2011 09:56, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: How are you create rules? (maybe there is a problem?) what do you want to achieve with wifi* adsl table, load balancing or splitting access? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: htt

Re: F14, google-chrome won't launch after yum update

2011-09-29 Thread Kernel Guardian
SELinux rules. Look into /var/log/messages and /var/log/audit/audit.log. at least in my case. chrome works well on F15. On 29 September 2011 19:05, jackson byers wrote: > $  uname -r > 2.6.35.13-92.fc14.i686.PAE > > > after a recent 'yum update',  google-chrome won't launch. > > same response wi

Re: ftp files

2011-09-29 Thread Andras Simon
2011/9/30, mickey : > F15 > > what ftp app works with KDE, instead of vsftp that requires Gnome ? lftp is a command line ftp client, so it doesn't require gnome, and is pretty smart and very convenient to use. Andras -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change su

Re: ftp files

2011-09-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.09.2011 00:56, schrieb mickey: > F15 > > what ftp app works with KDE, instead of vsftp that requires Gnome? i do not understand you vsftpd is a FTP-SERVER and has nothing to do with kde or gnome you can use konqueror or krusader simply by typing ftp://yourserver/ signature.asc Descrip

Re: ftp files

2011-09-29 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/29/2011 03:56 PM, mickey wrote: > F15 > > what ftp app works with KDE, instead of vsftp that requires Gnome ? Try Filezilla -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: h

Re: ftp files

2011-09-29 Thread Colin J Thomson
On Thursday 29 Sep 2011 23:56:17 mickey wrote: > F15 > > what ftp app works with KDE, instead of vsftp that requires Gnome ? I have used gftp for many years with KDE and also the file manager (and more) Krusader which works really well. HTH Colin -- Fedora 15 (Lovelock) Registered Linux user

Re: Is Meego desktop available in Fedora 15?

2011-09-29 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 17:23, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > Ah, it is a shame, I really like Meego interface on 9-10" netbooks, > and it boots AMAZINGLY fast. Ah, well... I think Rahul spoke too soon. See the other reply in this thread. http://hany.sk/~hany/RPM/f-15-i386/banshee-meego-2.0.

Re: Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-09-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:33:27 -0600 linux guy wrote: > Today I bought 2 3 TB hard drives to use in my new server. Did you actually get 2 that both worked? I was looking at the reviews for 3TB drives on newegg recently and they make it sound very risky to try 3TB drives (or even 2TB drives). -- us

ftp files

2011-09-29 Thread mickey
F15 what ftp app works with KDE, instead of vsftp that requires Gnome ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

Fun and games with 3TB hard drives.

2011-09-29 Thread linux guy
Today I bought 2 3 TB hard drives to use in my new server. I'm writing this in case other people aren't aware that some of the traditional hard drive management methods don't work for drives larger than 2 TB. Specifically, fdisk and MSDOS type partition tables. Here is how I created a single par

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.09.2011 21:29, schrieb Olav Vitters: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 07:09:39PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> maybe developers should spent some thougts in which state they replace >> working >> solutions with often really good ideas that are not ready for endusers > > Suggest also not telling

Re: Spot's Chromium repo abandoned?

2011-09-29 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/29/2011 03:01 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 09/29/2011 03:32 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: >> I've been using Spot's Chromium repo to keep up to date, but apparently >> nobody has been working on it as of late. >> The "stable" version is 13.0.782, which is marked as "old" on >> http://en.wikiped

Re: Spot's Chromium repo abandoned?

2011-09-29 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/29/2011 03:32 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: > I've been using Spot's Chromium repo to keep up to date, but apparently > nobody has been working on it as of late. > The "stable" version is 13.0.782, which is marked as "old" on > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome#Release_history and th

Spot's Chromium repo abandoned?

2011-09-29 Thread Konstantin Svist
I've been using Spot's Chromium repo to keep up to date, but apparently nobody has been working on it as of late. The "stable" version is 13.0.782, which is marked as "old" on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome#Release_history and the "unstable/trunk" is 14.0.827, which is just a few rev

AMD Catalyst 11.9 Driver Is Now Available

2011-09-29 Thread Leonardo
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk1NQ some of us (me, for instance) have to choise between good gnome3 appeance of decent screen resolution when using hdmi, not mention to 3d acceleration. i'll wait this driver to appear on rpmfusion repo, ;) -- users mailing list users@list

Re: Is Meego desktop available in Fedora 15?

2011-09-29 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 09/29/2011 09:22 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: >> Is Meego desktop available in Fedora 15? If it is how can I install >> it? I tried few yum searches, but didn't find it. > > It is not available.  Meego as a project seems more focu

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 07:09:39PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > maybe developers should spent some thougts in which state they replace working > solutions with often really good ideas that are not ready for endusers Suggest also not telling again and again what other people should do. Also, I und

Re: Is Meego desktop available in Fedora 15?

2011-09-29 Thread Alan Cox
> >It is not available. Meego as a project seems more focused on > >providing > >a full operating system on its own and have tight trademark > >restrictions. Makes it difficult to package it as part of a > >distribution. The project also seems to in a suspended state > > MeeGo is merging with L

Re: Letter disappear in X-windows, why?

2011-09-29 Thread Jon Ingason
2011-09-29 20:28, Tom Horsley skrev: > On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:18:34 +0200 > Jon Ingason wrote: > >> My question is, is someone having same problem? How can I solve this? > > Sounds like this bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708529 I guess this is simmular bug, but it behaves di

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.09.2011 19:03, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > On 09/29/2011 10:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 09/29/2011 04:27 AM, Craig White wrote: >>> I think you are now understanding why few developers monitor the various >>> users lists. >> >> They don't want to know what users think of their work? > > As

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.09.2011 19:00, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 09/29/2011 04:27 AM, Craig White wrote: >> I think you are now understanding why few developers monitor the various >> users lists. > > They don't want to know what users think of their work? many developers are not interested in their users and are u

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Ian Malone
On 29 September 2011 06:04, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > This discussion and others before have made it obvious that Gnome is a > Cathedral governed by the absolute devine powers of its bishops and popes. > If you must keep repeating this then please spell divine correctly, it is beginning to get ann

Re: Letter disappear in X-windows, why?

2011-09-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:18:34 +0200 Jon Ingason wrote: > My question is, is someone having same problem? How can I solve this? Sounds like this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708529 Are you running with all the compiz screen effects turned on? Try turning them off and see if th

Letter disappear in X-windows, why?

2011-09-29 Thread Jon Ingason
Following is output from terminal windows in Gnome terminal: [jonsi@lea ISO]$ more /boot/grub/device.map # this device map was generated by anaconda (hd0) /dev/sda [jonsi@lea ISO]$ ls Bilder Bodhilinux Fedora-14-i386-DVD Fedora-14-x86_64-DVD Fedora-15-i386-DVD Fedora-15-i686-Live-LXDE Fedora-

Re: Is Meego desktop available in Fedora 15?

2011-09-29 Thread Weather
Rahul Sundaram wrote: >It is not available. Meego as a project seems more focused on >providing >a full operating system on its own and have tight trademark >restrictions. Makes it difficult to package it as part of a >distribution. The project also seems to in a suspended state MeeGo is me

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/29/2011 12:27 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 10:46 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: >> On 09/29/2011 02:02 AM, Craig White wrote: >>> On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 15:15 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: >> I think you're missing the point. A major goal of any leading-edge distro is to

F14, google-chrome won't launch after yum update

2011-09-29 Thread jackson byers
$ uname -r 2.6.35.13-92.fc14.i686.PAE after a recent 'yum update', google-chrome won't launch. same response with updated 2.6.35.14-96.fc14.i686.PAE $ ls -l /opt/google/chrome/chrome -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 55207772 Sep 27 01:46 /opt/google/chrome/chrome $ /opt/google/chrome/chrome: error

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/29/2011 10:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/29/2011 04:27 AM, Craig White wrote: >> I think you are now understanding why few developers monitor the various >> users lists. > > They don't want to know what users think of their work? As a contributor, one real problem for me is the amount of n

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/29/2011 04:27 AM, Craig White wrote: > I think you are now understanding why few developers monitor the various > users lists. They don't want to know what users think of their work? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://a

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 29 September 2011 17:06:16 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 09/29/2011 05:02 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > So if you want a GUI for Kerberos, SELinux, LVM or network management, > > you depend on libgnome. > > > > And if those packages do not depend on Gnome in F15 or F16, I'll be very > >

Re: Is Meego desktop available in Fedora 15?

2011-09-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 09/29/2011 05:58 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 09/29/2011 09:22 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: >> Is Meego desktop available in Fedora 15? If it is how can I install >> it? I tried few yum searches, but didn't find it. > > It is not available. Meego as a project seems more focused on pro

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/29/2011 05:02 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > So if you want a GUI for Kerberos, SELinux, LVM or network management, you > depend on libgnome. > > And if those packages do not depend on Gnome in F15 or F16, I'll be very > happily surprised. Having a gnome-free install of Fedora is one of my

Re: Is Meego desktop available in Fedora 15?

2011-09-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/29/2011 09:22 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > Is Meego desktop available in Fedora 15? If it is how can I install > it? I tried few yum searches, but didn't find it. It is not available. Meego as a project seems more focused on providing a full operating system on its own and have ti

Is Meego desktop available in Fedora 15?

2011-09-29 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Is Meego desktop available in Fedora 15? If it is how can I install it? I tried few yum searches, but didn't find it. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt & http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turk

Re: I've got an interesting problem (at least to me).....

2011-09-29 Thread Joe Wulf
Interesting thread.  :) I would like to know a bit more about your process for booting knoppix (which version/edition, too) and rsync'ing between the two  partitions.  Thanks. > >From: Kevin Martin >To: Community support for Fedora users >Sent: Thursday, Sept

Re: I've got an interesting problem (at least to me).....

2011-09-29 Thread Kevin Martin
On 09/29/2011 10:27 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:57:17 -0500 > Kevin Martin wrote: > >> Oh, didn't occur to me that that information would be dd'd! Crud! >> Guess I'm off to do some partition copies! > No need for anything that drastic. You could just do something

Re: I've got an interesting problem (at least to me).....

2011-09-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:57:17 -0500 Kevin Martin wrote: > Oh, didn't occur to me that that information would be dd'd! Crud! > Guess I'm off to do some partition copies! No need for anything that drastic. You could just do something like use e2label to give the partitions symbolic labe

Re: Configuring USB-connected printer

2011-09-29 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 09/29/2011 01:37:36 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 09:37 -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > I'm unable to configure a printer, connected via usb, under Fedora > 15. > > What does "su -c 'lpinfo -l -v'" say, with the printer connected and > powered on? It follows. FWIW, 'couple of

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 03:52:26PM +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > > The challenge then is to upgrade the Gnome 2 code to use the newer > > > > libraries. > > > > > > Which is essentially impossible without *a* *lot* of coding. IIUC, this > > > is why Gnome3 has been rewritten from scratch, in

Re: I've got an interesting problem (at least to me).....

2011-09-29 Thread Kevin Martin
On 09/29/2011 08:13 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:58:06 -0500 > Kevin Martin wrote: > >> or is >> something odd going on here? > Odds are good that the /etc/fstab file refers to partition UUID > values to identify what to mount. If you have completely duplicated > the driver wit

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 29 September 2011 14:55:32 Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:32:58PM +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > > Apparently it is already being done (sorry, forgot the new name of > > > > the fork). However, AFAIK, it is far from straightforward to > > > > "rebuild and rele

Re: School me on server hard drive management. (Hot swap, SATA channels, LVM, backup, etc.)

2011-09-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.09.2011 15:46, schrieb linux guy: > > Mount point management. > > Is there an easy was to know if a disk is mounted and act accordingly or > prevent data from being written to a > mountpoint ? Or to have the mount point disappear when its not mounted ? > > Example > > Lets say I creat

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:32:58PM +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > Apparently it is already being done (sorry, forgot the new name of the > > > fork). However, AFAIK, it is far from straightforward to "rebuild and > > > release" it. Gnome 2 and 3 use different versions of the same set of > > >

Re: School me on server hard drive management. (Hot swap, SATA channels, LVM, backup, etc.)

2011-09-29 Thread linux guy
Mount point management. Is there an easy was to know if a disk is mounted and act accordingly or prevent data from being written to a mountpoint ? Or to have the mount point disappear when its not mounted ? Example Lets say I create a mount point /home/me/myth and that /home/me resides on /dev/

Re: School me on server hard drive management. (Hot swap, SATA channels, LVM, backup, etc.)

2011-09-29 Thread linux guy
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 09/29/2011 12:26 AM, linux guy wrote: > > I'm building a home server that will run a MythTV backend, zoneminder > > ... > > > > > Questions > > > > > 3) How does one mount the drives for the OS to access ? I know all > > about the moun

Re: difference between "ping -I INTERFACE" and "ping -I IPADDRESS" ?

2011-09-29 Thread JB
Frantisek Hanzlik hanzlici.cz> writes: > ... Just a wild guess if you want to try. Turn off ICMP redirect: # echo "0' > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/accept_redirects # echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/send_redirects Flush arp cache: # ip neigh flush all Flush the route cache: # ip route

Re: School me on server hard drive management. (Hot swap, SATA channels, LVM, backup, etc.)

2011-09-29 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:26 PM, linux guy wrote: > 4) How should I approach data backup ?  Right now I have about 250 GB of > nearly irreplaceable digital images.  RAID ?  Periodic backup to a (rotated, > stored off site) hard drive via the hot swap slot in the case ? My method is more complica

Re: I've got an interesting problem (at least to me).....

2011-09-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:58:06 -0500 Kevin Martin wrote: > or is > something odd going on here? Odds are good that the /etc/fstab file refers to partition UUID values to identify what to mount. If you have completely duplicated the driver with a dd command, those UUIDs will be ambiguous and which e

I've got an interesting problem (at least to me).....

2011-09-29 Thread Kevin Martin
I've got a Toshiba laptop that I have two drives in (/dev/sda and /dev/sdb). I was having some issues with /dev/sda so I bought the second drive, dd'd drive sda contents to drive sdb, and the removed sda and replaced it. I used sdb for the boot drive until receiving the replacement. Upon arriv

Re: School me on server hard drive management. (Hot swap, SATA channels, LVM, backup, etc.)

2011-09-29 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/29/2011 12:26 AM, linux guy wrote: > I'm building a home server that will run a MythTV backend, zoneminder ... > > Questions > > 3) How does one mount the drives for the OS to access ? I know all > about the mount command and auto mounting, etc, but how do I reference > the drives ?

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 10:46 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 09/29/2011 02:02 AM, Craig White wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 15:15 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: > > >> I think you're missing the point. A major goal of any leading-edge > >> distro is to get feedback from users on new features. In o

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/28/2011 11:34 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > * How to get rid of gdm and what to replace it with? > Gdm had always been a major nuissance, which had never worked > flawlessly, so I am inclined to use switching to xfce as an oportunty to > get rid of it, as well. > I switched to KDM a

[389-users] Password expiration policy problem

2011-09-29 Thread David Hoskinson
I have configured our directory server to have a global password policy in the directory server, under Data-> Passwords. The policy we have elected to use the password expires in 45 days. For the last 15 days it has been warning me to change it. I have on several occasions changed it by typin

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday 28 September 2011 13:48:09 Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 08:26:27AM +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote: > > > But its seems like a lot of people would like Gnome2 back. Why doesn't > > > someone, who has a probl

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 13:15 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > All I want to know is > > When will the 4th thread start, replete with the same characters, the > same opinions and the same everything? I think that comes with GNOME 4 - this is only GNOME 3 > I wish there were a way to predict

Re: How to rebuild the kernel for the network install

2011-09-29 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-09-29 at 10:35 +0200, Joshua C. wrote: > > Do I need to set any corn jobs to monitor the raid? This is > recommended in most of the guides I read. If so, any suggestions why > and how to do this? I generally just set my e-mail address in /etc/mdadm.conf and leave it at that. You

Re: Developers responsibillity to Fedora Users

2011-09-29 Thread Andrew Haley
On 09/29/2011 02:02 AM, Craig White wrote: > On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 15:15 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: >> I think you're missing the point. A major goal of any leading-edge >> distro is to get feedback from users on new features. In other words, >> getting negative feedback from users isn't a bug,

Re: Configuring USB-connected printer

2011-09-29 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 09:37 -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > I'm unable to configure a printer, connected via usb, under Fedora 15. What does "su -c 'lpinfo -l -v'" say, with the printer connected and powered on? Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- user

Re: How to rebuild the kernel for the network install

2011-09-29 Thread Joshua C.
2011/9/29 Craig White : > On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 15:03 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:41:22 -0600, >>   Pete Travis wrote: >> > Bash will expand $(inane -r) for you - you can pass it any kernel you have >> > headers installed for. >> > >> > I wanted to jump in to sugges

Re: difference between "ping -I INTERFACE" and "ping -I IPADDRESS" ?

2011-09-29 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Kernel Guardian wrote: > yes it is always related with routing. > it would be helpful to see your routing table I think it is some combination of routing rules and different ping behavior when with "-I" switch is used interface name or interface IP. But I have no idea why ping behaves differently.