Re: Vote to extend F14 security updates

2011-09-01 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 9/1/2011 11:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 09/02/2011 06:44 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: >> I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because >> of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could >> security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released?

Re: Vote to extend F14 security updates

2011-09-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/02/2011 06:44 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because > of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could > security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released? > Hopefully by then gnome3 will be fully baked.

Re: Vote to extend F14 security updates

2011-09-01 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 9/1/2011 11:18 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > On 09/02/2011 04:25 AM, Peter G. wrote: >> Robert Arkiletian wrote: >> >>> I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because >>> of gnome3. >> Boo hoo. >> > He is not alone +1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: Vote to extend F14 security updates

2011-09-01 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
On 09/02/2011 04:25 AM, Peter G. wrote: > Robert Arkiletian wrote: > >> I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because >> of gnome3. > Boo hoo. > He is not alone -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/02/2011 02:46 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > Does it support Gnome 2 ? That seems to be what everyone who complains > about Gnome 3 actually wants... http://k3rnel.net/2011/06/15/bluebubble-faq/ Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opti

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Amadeus W.M.
On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 22:11:57 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: >> Would someone please tell me.. Why is F-15 such a mess..? The worst >> thing is the jumbled up desktop.. > > The great thing about Linux is that the desktop is not wired into the > system. The great thing about Fedora is it supports and pac

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread John Wendel
On 09/01/2011 06:04 PM, Mark W. Jeanmougin wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 18:03, Rudolf Kastl wrote: >> 2011/9/1 Alan Cox: >>> If you really want everything to just get out of the way and don't need >>> the user niceness stuff you might also want to look at Enlightement >>> >>> yum search

any way to control disk order?

2011-09-01 Thread mcforum
My poor old system died, and I resurrected it by moving the disks to an older system. For who knows what reason, the kernel has decided to call the external USB drive I use for backups /dev/sda (the old system called it /dev/sdc). My internal sata disks are being called /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc.

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 14:34 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/01/2011 02:18 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > gnome-shell-extension-righthotcorner-1.0-1.fc15.noarch > > > > Why do you have to install an extension to make such a small change? > Shouldn't this be configurable? > Think of it as a d

any way to control disk order?

2011-09-01 Thread Tom Horsley
My poor old system died, and I resurrected it by moving the disks to an older system. For who knows what reason, the kernel has decided to call the external USB drive I use for backups /dev/sda (the old system called it /dev/sdc). My internal sata disks are being called /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc. Thi

preupgrade or netinstall from i686 to x86_64

2011-09-01 Thread mcforum
I don't see an option in preupgrade to go from F13 i686 to F14 x86_64. Is it possible? >>> You could try but you really would not like doing it.  If you have 32 bit programs you want to continue to use, There is a "multilb" install that keeps the ability to run such.  It requires synchronizatrio

Re: Vote to extend F14 security updates

2011-09-01 Thread Peter G.
Robert Arkiletian wrote: > I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because > of gnome3. Boo hoo. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedo

Re: preupgrade or netinstall from i686 to x86_64

2011-09-01 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 09/01/2011 09:05 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > I don't see an option in preupgrade to go from F13 i686 to F14 x86_64. > Is it possible? Yes, it is possible, but (for me at least) it entauked a whole bunch of grief. What I did was to use the F14 x86_64 install DVD, and do an upgrade. This is

Re: how do I play this file?

2011-09-01 Thread Manuel Escudero
2011/9/1 Michael Hennebry > On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Manuel Escudero wrote: > > > 2011/9/1 Tim > > > >> On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 15:24 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote: > >>> is it a "swf" file? ok... You have 3 ways to do it: > >>> > >>> For just viewing: > >>> > >>> 3) Click with left button of the mouse,

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Neal Hogan
where'd the OP go? On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > On 09/01/2011 02:18 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: >> On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 16:01 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> >>> 2. Who thought it was a good idea to make someone put their cursor to >>> the upper left corner in order t

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 09/01/2011 02:18 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 16:01 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > >> 2. Who thought it was a good idea to make someone put their cursor to >> the upper left corner in order to switch desktops that are all the way >> on the right? How is that ergonomic? I act

Vote to extend F14 security updates

2011-09-01 Thread Robert Arkiletian
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released? Hopefully by then gnome3 will be fully baked. -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, C

preupgrade or netinstall from i686 to x86_64

2011-09-01 Thread Robert Arkiletian
I don't see an option in preupgrade to go from F13 i686 to F14 x86_64. Is it possible? Or is it possible with an F14 x86_64 netinstall iso disk? -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscriptio

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Mark W. Jeanmougin
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 18:03, Rudolf Kastl wrote: > 2011/9/1 Alan Cox : >> If you really want everything to just get out of the way and don't need >> the user niceness stuff you might also want to look at Enlightement >> >>        yum search enlightenment >> >> Alan > > e17 will be removed from f1

Re: F15: Worst. Update. Ever.

2011-09-01 Thread Peter G.
Bruce Korb wrote: > Down side: /home is still ext3. Yes, my /home/me/Documents partition (actually drive) is ext4 and when I will finally switch to btrfs (in about Fedora 17 or 18), I will have to transfer all of my stuff onto another partition, create the new btrfs file system on the old /ho

Re: F15: Worst. Update. Ever.

2011-09-01 Thread Peter G.
Bruce Korb wrote: > It is also useful to have /home on a separate partition that > gets mounted from both installations This is why I have /home/me/Documents on a separate partition (actually a full separate 300GB drive, sdb, with just one partition, hence sdb1), filled with my stuff. Total

Re: help with missing font (Fedora 15)

2011-09-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:30:54 -0500 Paul Flo Williams wrote: > On 09/01/2011 05:00 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 10:19:23 -0500 Paul Flo Williams > >> > >> What locale are you using? > > > > I am sorry that I am a little lost here, but how do I figure this out? > > Or change the l

Re: F15: Worst. Update. Ever.

2011-09-01 Thread Peter G.
Darlene Wallach wrote: > When you verify the new install works, what do you do with the new > install on the spare partition and the old install? When I verify that the new system works, I move in, of course :-) I start using it right away... like I did last week with Fedora 16α. I leave the old

Re: F15: Worst. Update. Ever.

2011-09-01 Thread Bruce Korb
On 09/01/11 14:56, Darlene Wallach wrote: [snip] >> What I do is have a spare partition to install the new system to and I never >> do >> a system upgrade ... > When you verify the new install works, what do you do with the new > install on the spare partition and the old install? The "old" becom

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/01/2011 03:35 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > But none of them enough to maintain it apparently. Nothing in Fedora > magically appears - someone has to maintain it. Maintaining a package takes specific programming skills and the time to do the work. If Fedora had been able to fork Gnome and keep a G

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 17:16:54 -0400 DJ Delorie wrote: > > Alan Cox writes: > > The great thing about Fedora is it supports and packages many > > desktops. > > Does it support Gnome 2 ? That seems to be what everyone who complains > about Gnome 3 actually wants... But none of them enough to ma

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Rudolf Kastl
2011/9/1 Alan Cox : >> Would someone please tell me..  Why is F-15 such a mess..?  The worst >> thing is the jumbled up desktop.. > > The great thing about Linux is that the desktop is not wired into the > system. The great thing about Fedora is it supports and packages many > desktops. > > So > >

Re: F15: Worst. Update. Ever.

2011-09-01 Thread Darlene Wallach
Peter, On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Peter G. wrote: [snip] > > What I do is have a spare partition to install the new system to and I never > do > a system upgrade (tred a few fedoras ago, without success; no doubt it works > much better now). This way my old system is still intact and I have

Re: F15: Worst. Update. Ever.

2011-09-01 Thread Peter G.
Peter G. wrote: > kde-rpm stuff meant kde-redhat -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Steven Stern
On 09/01/2011 04:11 PM, Alan Cox wrote: >> Would someone please tell me.. Why is F-15 such a mess..? The worst >> thing is the jumbled up desktop.. > > The great thing about Linux is that the desktop is not wired into the > system. The great thing about Fedora is it supports and packages many >

Re: F15: Worst. Update. Ever.

2011-09-01 Thread Peter G.
Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/01/2011 11:10 AM, linux guy wrote: >> But not a KDE session ! Apparently none of my KDE packages had been >> upgraded and my system now only had F15 gnome packages on it. Just a wild guess: maybe you had some kde-rpm stuff installed and when you upgraded, you got confli

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/01/2011 02:18 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > gnome-shell-extension-righthotcorner-1.0-1.fc15.noarch > Why do you have to install an extension to make such a small change? Shouldn't this be configurable? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/01/2011 02:15 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 09/01/2011 01:54 PM, Pasha R wrote: >> When Win95 came out it took me less than 1 day to adapt (btw, do you >> know that you could use Win3.1-like program manager in Win95). When >> RH8 came out, it took me less than 1 day to adapt. Same for Gno

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Alan Cox wrote: >> Would someone please tell me..  Why is F-15 such a mess..?  The worst >> thing is the jumbled up desktop.. > > The great thing about Linux is that the desktop is not wired into the > system. The great thing about Fedora is it supports and package

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 16:01 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> 2. Who thought it was a good idea to make someone put their cursor to >> the upper left corner in order to switch desktops that are all the way >> on the right? How is that ergonomic

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 23:54 +0300, Pasha R wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Digimer wrote: > > On 09/01/2011 04:15 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> You'll see... > >> > > > > When Red hat 8 (original) came out, I hated Gnome and wanted > > Enlightenment back. > > > > When W

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 16:01 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > > 2. Who thought it was a good idea to make someone put their cursor to > the upper left corner in order to switch desktops that are all the way > on the right? How is that ergonomic? I actually don't mind doing that > for switching apps or

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread DJ Delorie
Alan Cox writes: > The great thing about Fedora is it supports and packages many > desktops. Does it support Gnome 2 ? That seems to be what everyone who complains about Gnome 3 actually wants... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 09/01/2011 01:54 PM, Pasha R wrote: > When Win95 came out it took me less than 1 day to adapt (btw, do you > know that you could use Win3.1-like program manager in Win95). When > RH8 came out, it took me less than 1 day to adapt. Same for Gnome2, > different versions of KDE/XFCE I tried over ti

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Alan Cox
> Would someone please tell me.. Why is F-15 such a mess..? The worst > thing is the jumbled up desktop.. The great thing about Linux is that the desktop is not wired into the system. The great thing about Fedora is it supports and packages many desktops. So yum groupinstall Xfce exit

Re: How to debug X lockup (advice from gurus wanted)

2011-09-01 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 08/30/2011 09:24 PM, stan wrote: > On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:06:29 +0200 > Roberto Ragusa wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> it sometimes happens to me that X completely locks up, while the >> machine is still alive on the network. >> >> This is on F14, untainted kernel, nouveau driver, no 3D used, >> KDE des

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-09-01 Thread Alan Cox
> > Check the documentation for: > > > > hdparm --secure-erase > > > > and/or --security-erase-enhanced > > > > gene/ > > How do you feel about the sentence in the man page jusr before thewse > options are described thus: > These switches are DANGEROUS to experiment with, a

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:50 PM, William Henry wrote: > +1.  Gotten used to Gnome 3 and now love it. > > Still trying to figure some things out. (Why has my Xchat no pull down menus > anymore? I can't modify anything.) I was considering a not quite rant I'm OK with Gnome 3 after adding a few

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Pasha R
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Digimer wrote: > On 09/01/2011 04:15 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: >> > > > >> You'll see... >> > > When Red hat 8 (original) came out, I hated Gnome and wanted > Enlightenment back. > > When Windows 95 came out, I hated it's new UI and wanted 3.1 back. > > Things chang

Re: how do I play this file?

2011-09-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Manuel Escudero wrote: > 2011/9/1 Tim > >> On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 15:24 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote: >>> is it a "swf" file? ok... You have 3 ways to do it: >>> >>> For just viewing: >>> >>> 3) Click with left button of the mouse, hit "Open With" and Open it >>> with firefox.

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-09-01 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> >> > >  Check the documentation for: > >        hdparm --secure-erase > >    and/or  --security-erase-enhanced > I have used these commands for a number of drives - it is the fastest way to really erase all data on a drive, and effectivel

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread William Henry
+1. Gotten used to Gnome 3 and now love it. Still trying to figure some things out. (Why has my Xchat no pull down menus anymore? I can't modify anything.) William - Original Message - > On 09/01/2011 04:15 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: > > > > > > > You'll see... > > > > When Red hat 8

gpp on F15

2011-09-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
A few days ago there was comment about problems with gpp (gnome-photo-printer) on F15. It works on my F15 as it did on my F14. -- === *** *** * ** Confucious say: "Is stuffy inside fortune cookie." *** *** ===

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Digimer
On 09/01/2011 04:15 PM, Linda McLeod wrote: > > You'll see... > When Red hat 8 (original) came out, I hated Gnome and wanted Enlightenment back. When Windows 95 came out, I hated it's new UI and wanted 3.1 back. Things change, it's part of computers (and everything else). So when F15 came o

Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 01:15:25PM -0700, Linda McLeod wrote: Try to differentiate: Gnome 3 is not Fedora 15, and vice versa. There are other desktop environments that you can use rather than Gnome 3. -- Darryl L. Pierce, Sr. Software Engineer @ Red Hat, Inc. Delivering value year after year.

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-09-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 12:03 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 08/29/2011 08:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > > > Am 30.08.2011 02:05, schrieb Chris Adams: > >> Once upon a time, Alan Cox said: > >>> If you want to erase your drive, issue a secure erase command. It's as > >>> simple as that.

Re: slim (simple login manager)

2011-09-01 Thread John Schmitt
On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 12:10:18PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/01/2011 11:58 AM, cromworshipper-fedorast...@yahoo.com wrote: > >Going back a few days I can see that ausearch reports a lot of AVC messages > >regarding wine-preloader and skype, but I can't imagine they're relevant > >here. > >

RANT DETECTED!!!! Re: Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Hiisi
On 1 September 2011 20:15, Linda McLeod wrote: > > And there's nothing in right click..  And you can't run two home files > simultaneous.. I need that for script and photo editing...  You can't Yes, you can. Just open another tab or window from file menu in nautilus. -- Hiisi. Registered Linux

Re: how do I play this file?

2011-09-01 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 18:06 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: >> I started a new subject by replying to myself > > Um, no you didn't... You added a new reply to your old thread, with a > different subject line. Your (wanted it to be a) new message is buried I wrote

Fedora 15 is a lot like Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, nauseating to try...

2011-09-01 Thread Linda McLeod
I love this Fedora-14, and everything Red Hat, but Fedora-15 is a lot like those vile Windows OS's.. irritating, offensive, difficult to use with ease, and gosh awful gaudy... Sorry, but to me it just is.. I tried it for a week, and formatted it off the hard drive, and snapped the CD in-two.. A

Re: slim (simple login manager)

2011-09-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/01/2011 11:58 AM, cromworshipper-fedorast...@yahoo.com wrote: > Going back a few days I can see that ausearch reports a lot of AVC messages > regarding wine-preloader and skype, but I can't imagine they're relevant here. Do you have the SELinux troubleshooter running? If not, you probably

Re: slim (simple login manager)

2011-09-01 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/01/2011 02:58 PM, cromworshipper-fedorast...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 09:49:59AM -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 08/31/2011 06:17 PM, John Schmitt wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 31

Re: slim (simple login manager)

2011-09-01 Thread cromworshipper-fedorast...@yahoo.com
On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 09:49:59AM -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/31/2011 06:17 PM, John Schmitt wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 09:13:42AM -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 08/

Re: how do I play this file?

2011-09-01 Thread Manuel Escudero
2011/9/1 Tim > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 15:24 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote: > > is it a "swf" file? ok... You have 3 ways to do it: > > > > For just viewing: > > > > 3) Click with left button of the mouse, hit "Open With" and Open it > > with firefox. > > May not work... Some players, like "mplayer

Re: Drivers for Brother MFC-J6710DW

2011-09-01 Thread Claude Jones
On 9/1/2011 12:56 PM, Chris Kottaridis wrote: > Just got a new Multifunction FAX,Scanner.Copier,Printer that has network > access. > > I have Fedora Core 14 and when I use the tools to add a printerit finds > it on the netwrok, but it can't seem to find a driver for this device. > It's a > > Brothe

Re: Drivers for Brother MFC-J6710DW

2011-09-01 Thread Chris Kottaridis
OK, I found what I need here for printing: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_prn1a.html Got a test page printout just fine. Thanks Chris Kottaridis On 09/01/2011 10:56 AM, Chris Kottaridis wrote: > Just got a new Multifunction FAX,Scanner.Copier,Printer t

Re: F15: Worst. Update. Ever.

2011-09-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/01/2011 11:10 AM, linux guy wrote: > But not a KDE session ! Apparently none of my KDE packages had been > upgraded and my system now only had F15 gnome packages on it. I'm sorry to read of your difficulties, but glad to see that you managed to work through them. Of all your woes, the on

Re: Sound from KVM guest

2011-09-01 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/01/2011 01:33 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 22:08 +0900, panicloop wrote: >> On 09/01/2011 08:32 AM, Michael Eager wrote: >>> Hi -- >>> >>> I installed Windows 7 in a KVM virtual machine running on >>> Fedora 15. The gues

F15: Worst. Update. Ever.

2011-09-01 Thread linux guy
I just wanted to share what a troublesome, irritating process it was to update my F14 KDE box to F15. When it was released, I immediately downloaded F15 KDE Live ISO and installed it on a USB drive. I was quite impressed. Shortly thereafter, I ran pre upgrade, only to find that the pre upgrade k

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-09-01 Thread Julius Smith
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Steve Underwood wrote: > On 08/31/2011 09:02 PM, Tim wrote: >> On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 12:36 -0600, Julius Smith wrote: >>> using the mouse is slow, so we need to be able to define a shortcut >>> for everything. >> And how are you going to remember them all?  Or have

Gnome 3 child process inheritance problems Number 2

2011-09-01 Thread mcforum
palimpsest doesn't ask for root password so while it runs it is useless. Switching a terminal window to a root terminal with su - Attempting to start any gui program gives a sequence- There are multiple lines  No protocol specified ending with Display localhost:0.0 unavailable

Re: Sound from KVM guest

2011-09-01 Thread Michael Eager
On 09/01/2011 06:08 AM, panicloop wrote: > On 09/01/2011 08:32 AM, Michael Eager wrote: >> Hi -- >> >> I installed Windows 7 in a KVM virtual machine running on >> Fedora 15. The guest is configured with an es1370 sound card. >> Windows detected the sound device and installed drivers, but I >> don

Re: Sound from KVM guest

2011-09-01 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 22:08 +0900, panicloop wrote: > On 09/01/2011 08:32 AM, Michael Eager wrote: > > Hi -- > > > > I installed Windows 7 in a KVM virtual machine running on > > Fedora 15. The guest is configured with an es1370 sound card. > > Windows detected the sound device and installed driv

Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?

2011-09-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 09/01/2011 10:08 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > Is there any chance that Fedora will extend security updates for F14 > until F16 comes out to allow time for gnome3 to improve? AIUI, it's standard for Fedora to provide security and other updates for each version right up until it reaches End Of

Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?

2011-09-01 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Christopher Svanefalk > wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> for those of us who are a little reluctant about moving to Gnome3 just yet, >> does anyone know if there are plans to release rpms of kernel versions later

Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?

2011-09-01 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > Hey all, > > for those of us who are a little reluctant about moving to Gnome3 just yet, > does anyone know if there are plans to release rpms of kernel versions later > than 2.6.35 for F14? > Is there any chance that Fedora will ext

Drivers for Brother MFC-J6710DW

2011-09-01 Thread Chris Kottaridis
Just got a new Multifunction FAX,Scanner.Copier,Printer that has network access. I have Fedora Core 14 and when I use the tools to add a printerit finds it on the netwrok, but it can't seem to find a driver for this device. It's a Brother MFC-J6710DW Do you know where I can get the drivers fo

Re: help with missing font (Fedora 15)

2011-09-01 Thread Paul Flo Williams
On 09/01/2011 05:00 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 10:19:23 -0500 Paul Flo Williams >> >> What locale are you using? > > I am sorry that I am a little lost here, but how do I figure this out? > Or change the locale, if needed? What is displayed when you type 'locale' in the shell (n

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-09-01 Thread Genes MailLists
On 08/29/2011 08:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 30.08.2011 02:05, schrieb Chris Adams: >> Once upon a time, Alan Cox said: >>> If you want to erase your drive, issue a secure erase command. It's as >>> simple as that. >> >> Is there a simple way to do that on Linux? > > dd if=/dev/urandom

Re: help with missing font (Fedora 15)

2011-09-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 10:19:23 -0500 Paul Flo Williams wrote: > On 09/01/2011 03:20 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 05:13:35 -0500 Paul Flo Williams > > > >> The font issue (seeing<80><98>lm<80><99>) is actually an encoding > >> issue in the man page you're looking at. It appears tha

Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?

2011-09-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.08.2011 16:57, schrieb stan: >> $ yumdownloader --source >> > That's true if you are getting the package for the currently running > system, and it is how I get src.rpm packages on F15. But doing that on > F14 will not get an F15 package. The OP is running F14 and wants newer > kernels.

Re: Var/log/messages file are empty

2011-09-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.08.2011 15:38, schrieb antonio.montagn...@alice.it: >>> How is it possible?? >> > >> Are you running F15? >> >> Try systemctl restart syslog.target . There was a bug > in F15 that >> caused this. I can't remember the fix, though. You might try > >> systemctl enable syslog.service . >

Re: Brain fart: no format option on a pen drive pop-up menu?

2011-09-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.08.2011 02:05, schrieb Chris Adams: > Once upon a time, Alan Cox said: >> If you want to erase your drive, issue a secure erase command. It's as >> simple as that. > > Is there a simple way to do that on Linux? dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/your/device signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: help with missing font (Fedora 15)

2011-09-01 Thread Paul Flo Williams
On 09/01/2011 03:20 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 05:13:35 -0500 Paul Flo Williams > >> The font issue (seeing<80><98>lm<80><99>) is actually an encoding >> issue in the man page you're looking at. It appears that the document >> is using Windows curly quotes, which are not at their

Re: [389-users] Fwd: 389 v1.2.9.8 freeze/deadlock

2011-09-01 Thread Rich Megginson
On 09/01/2011 09:02 AM, Andrey Ivanov wrote: > The full dgb trace with debug symbols is in the attached file. Hope it > helps Thanks. Yes, this is the same thing I am able to reproduce. Working on a fix now. > > >>> The same test in 1.2.8.3 is ok, the important information being that >>> it

Re: [389-users] Fwd: 389 v1.2.9.8 freeze/deadlock

2011-09-01 Thread Rich Megginson
On 09/01/2011 08:28 AM, Andrey Ivanov wrote: > Hi Rich, > > The same test in 1.2.8.3 is ok, the important information being that > it is also a paged search. here is the log for the same search for > 1.2.8.3 (i'm in the process of rolling back to that version): > > [01/Sep/2011:16:19:39 +0200] conn

Gnome 3 child process inheritance problems

2011-09-01 Thread mcforum
Starting an alternate session with ctrl-alt f2 and starting up the gui.  Using startx -- :1 for alternate session. Top level stuff launched from the menus works but starting programs from a terminal session fails. There are multiple lines  No protocol specified ending with Display localhost:0.0

Re: [389-users] Fwd: 389 v1.2.9.8 freeze/deadlock

2011-09-01 Thread Rich Megginson
On 09/01/2011 08:28 AM, Andrey Ivanov wrote: > Hi Rich, > > The same test in 1.2.8.3 is ok, the important information being that > it is also a paged search. here is the log for the same search for > 1.2.8.3 (i'm in the process of rolling back to that version): > > [01/Sep/2011:16:19:39 +0200] conn

Re: help with missing font (Fedora 15)

2011-09-01 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 05:13:35 -0500 Paul Flo Williams wrote: > On 09/01/2011 02:36 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > > I am missing a font (for a while) but I can not figure out what it is. > > Basically, I get something like this on my help pages when using R.: > > > > > >1 lm

Re: Freezing emacs...

2011-09-01 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2011-09-01 at 07:43 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 03:55:42PM -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > > In my case it happens whenever the Emacs window is minimized and then > > > reopened. I have to maximize it and then select a buffer each time to > > > get it back t

Re: slim (simple login manager)

2011-09-01 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/31/2011 06:17 PM, John Schmitt wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 09:13:42AM -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 08/30/2011 07:01 PM, John Schmitt wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:52:54AM -04

Re: F-15 Scanner Tool -

2011-09-01 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 10:09 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > 300 dpi should be fine for my needs, I believe the Brother > HL5140 Laser can do better though. Most recent printers can. Mine can do 600, and it's early 1990's vintage. > The problem was mainly the resolution setting in xsane which initial

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-09-01 Thread Markku Kolkka
1.9.2011 16:12, Tim kirjoitti: > I've often wondered how such languages are typed. Whether the keys > pressed to construct a character relate to drawing certain shaped lines > in certain places (a stroke here, a stroke there), some sort spelling > out the word that the character represents, Both

Re: GNOME 2 on Fedora 15

2011-09-01 Thread Tim
Tim: >> And how are you going to remember them all? Or have enough keys to >> give everything a unique hotkey. >> >> I can only ever remember a few from a few applications, never all of >> the functions I might want to use. Years ago, I did add hotkeys to >> run programs, and only ever ended up r

Re: Sound from KVM guest

2011-09-01 Thread panicloop
On 09/01/2011 08:32 AM, Michael Eager wrote: > Hi -- > > I installed Windows 7 in a KVM virtual machine running on > Fedora 15. The guest is configured with an es1370 sound card. > Windows detected the sound device and installed drivers, but I > don't get any sound. > > The same thing happens when

Re: how do I play this file?

2011-09-01 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 15:24 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote: > is it a "swf" file? ok... You have 3 ways to do it: > > For just viewing: > > 3) Click with left button of the mouse, hit "Open With" and Open it > with firefox. May not work... Some players, like "mplayer" can play Flash videos. Thou

Re: how do I play this file?

2011-09-01 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 18:06 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > I started a new subject by replying to myself Um, no you didn't... You added a new reply to your old thread, with a different subject line. Your (wanted it to be a) new message is buried in the middle of an old thread, where it may get

Freezing emacs...

2011-09-01 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 03:55:42PM -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > In my case it happens whenever the Emacs window is minimized and then > > reopened. I have to maximize it and then select a buffer each time to > > get it back to normal. > > > > I've not filed a BZ for it personally. > > Inter

Re: help with missing font (Fedora 15)

2011-09-01 Thread Paul Flo Williams
On 09/01/2011 02:36 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > I am missing a font (for a while) but I can not figure out what it is. > Basically, I get something like this on my help pages when using R.: > > >1 lmpackage:statsR >Documentatio >1 n 2

Re: Adding a Package to Fedora System?

2011-09-01 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > I've been the maintainer of the G4L project for about 6 or 7 years > now, and I've been building it with my Fedora systems and using it > on them to do disk and partition images. Normally, it is run from a > cd, but one can simple copy

Adding a Package to Fedora System?

2011-09-01 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
I've been the maintainer of the G4L project for about 6 or 7 years now, and I've been building it with my Fedora systems and using it on them to do disk and partition images. Normally, it is run from a cd, but one can simple copy the kernel file and ramdisk.lzma file to the boot directory, and