Re: kmod-nvidia or dkms?

2011-05-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/29/2011 01:55 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Yes. Don't see a problem there. Install it and run the query. If you > must avoid installing the package for some reason, install the srpm and > look at the spec file. Being the cautious type, I find it better to download the packages and run wh

Re: kmod-nvidia or dkms?

2011-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2011 11:22 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/29/2011 01:39 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> rpm -q --scripts should tell you such info > Doesn't the package have to be installed for this to work? Yes. Don't see a problem there. Install it and run the query. If you must avoid installing the p

Re: kmod-nvidia or dkms?

2011-05-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/29/2011 01:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/29/2011 01:39 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> rpm -q --scripts should tell you such info > > Doesn't the package have to be installed for this to work? Sorryforgot to add that maybe you forgot to add the "-p" parameter... -- users mailing list

Re: Accidentally setting home

2011-05-28 Thread suvayu ali
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> I was under the impression the shell accepts simple globs like '?' for >> any single character and '*' for any one or more characters hence I >> assumed it is an ls feature. I just read the "pattern matching" >> section in 'man bash' a

Re: kmod-nvidia or dkms?

2011-05-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/29/2011 01:39 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > rpm -q --scripts should tell you such info Doesn't the package have to be installed for this to work? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

Re: kmod-nvidia or dkms?

2011-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2011 10:24 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Should have included Does the rpmfusion install do the necessary > steps of blacklisting the nouveau driver and (if still necessary) add > the nomodset parameter to the kernel line? rpm -q --scriptsshould tell you such info Rahul -- users m

WEP key selection in GNOME

2011-05-28 Thread Ed Greshko
In GNOME 3 I could find no way to select which WEP key to use (1-4). I suppose I could manually edit the file in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. But, am I missing something? In KDE it is simple to select. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscripti

Re: F15 - 640MB RAM Requirement Issue

2011-05-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/28/2011 09:43 PM, Freak Trick wrote: > But, I hope that further installers do not discontinue the installations > when minimum requirements are not met. Why? What reason would there be for the installer to continue if the system doesn't have enough RAM for the installer to complete the in

Re: kmod-nvidia or dkms?

2011-05-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/29/2011 12:19 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > rpmfusion auto kernel module rebuild is done with akmods not dkms .. so > instead of installing kmod-nvidia (or in addition if you like) install > akmod-nvidia which will build kmod-nvidia for you if its not there. > > seems to be operating with

Re: F15 - 640MB RAM Requirement Issue

2011-05-28 Thread Freak Trick
Hi, It does not seem that the slow speed is due to high load on F15 servers, I guess it is a problem with the beta. I have got decent processor and I don't think simultaneously downloading and processing would be an issue. I guess, I will try with presto and see how it can help. But, I hope tha

Re: kmod-nvidia or dkms?

2011-05-28 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/28/2011 11:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I'm thinking of changing to the kmod method from rpmfusion. Has anyone > gone this route with F15? Any gotchas or things their install misses? > Works out of the box? > rpmfusion auto kernel module rebuild is done with akmods not dkms .. so in

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread David
On 5/28/2011 10:24 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 21:09 -0400, David wrote: >>> OK, I tried releasing it and got: >>> >>> Failed to detach the hard disk >> (/home/poc/.VirtualBox/Win7.vdi) >>> from the slot SATA Port 0 of the machine Win7. >>> >>>

Re: Accidentally setting home

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 20:29 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > >> > > >> > $ ls \.[^.]* > >> > > >> > >> Thanks a lot Patrick, I had no idea ls accepted regular expressions! > > > > It doesn't. You need to read up on how the

kmod-nvidia or dkms?

2011-05-28 Thread Ed Greshko
I've just installed F15 x86_64 and have been trying my best to use the nouveau driver. However, it is falling short. I could probably live with the failures in some of the "desktop effects" in KDE. But, the one I can't seem to accept is the inability run GNOME 3 in a Vbox guest. In F11 to g

Re: Was inn tested for F15

2011-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2011 09:05 AM, Tim wrote: > > Hmm, is it right or wrong for *anything* to expect the contents > of /var/run to remain after a reboot? > > I would have expected /var/run should be volatile, like /tmp. Right but a change for Fedora 15 exposes this issue for software that doesn't cope with i

Re: Was inn tested for F15

2011-05-28 Thread Tim
Bruno Wolff III: >> /var/run is now a tmpfs so data there will be lost at each reboot. Sam Varshavchik: > Splendid. Aside from the fact that inn's startup script does not get invoked > correctly by initscripts, if you do invoke it correctly you also discover > that it expects /var/run/news to

Re: Accidentally setting home

2011-05-28 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Patrick, On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> > >> > $ ls \.[^.]* >> > >> >> Thanks a lot Patrick, I had no idea ls accepted regular expressions! > > It doesn't. You need to read up on how the Shell works. I was under the impression the shell accepts simple globs lik

Re: local IMAP server

2011-05-28 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Fetchmail can run as a daemon, all by itself. Timothy Murphy: > Thanks for the suggestion. > Will this work OK if I'm collecting mail from several sites? > At present I've set the cron scripts to run at different times. Mine does. My .fetchmailrc file has the details for several differen

Re: Accidentally setting home

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 12:42 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 20:03 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: > > I had no idea ls accepted regular expressions! > > I was under the impression that the shell handler does *all* of those > wildcarding tricks, before handing over to the program. Of course. I

Re: Accidentally setting home

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 20:03 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 12:18 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: > >> Hi Michael, > >> > >> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Michael Schwendt > >> wrote: > >> > because the .* also > >> >

Re: Accidentally setting home

2011-05-28 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 20:03 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: > I had no idea ls accepted regular expressions! I was under the impression that the shell handler does *all* of those wildcarding tricks, before handing over to the program. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't sen

Re: Accidentally setting home

2011-05-28 Thread suvayu ali
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 12:18 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: >> Hi Michael, >> >> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Michael Schwendt >> wrote: >> > because the .* also >> > includes .., the parent directory, which in this case is /home >> >> A

Re: Was inn tested for F15

2011-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2011 12:19 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > Splendid. Aside from the fact that inn's startup script does not get > invoked correctly by initscripts, if you do invoke it correctly you > also discover that it expects /var/run/news to be there, otherwise it > bombs. Appears the maintainer hasn

Re: F15 missing avatar

2011-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2011 02:55 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: > > > This is really a minor issue > > I updated my F14 to F15, and now I don't have any avatar in the login > screen, even I have it in the screen saver (and I see in the account > settings) > > any idea, has it already bugzilled? You can quickly

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 21:09 -0400, David wrote: > > OK, I tried releasing it and got: > > > > Failed to detach the hard disk > (/home/poc/.VirtualBox/Win7.vdi) > > from the slot SATA Port 0 of the machine Win7. > > > > The machine is not mutable (state is Saved). >

Raid Monitor -

2011-05-28 Thread Bob Goodwin
One of the items that my F-15 boot process stalls for a few seconds at: "Started LSB: Start and stop the MD software raid monitor" That doesn't sound like something I need since I don't have a raid system. Is there something I can disable or remove to

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread David
On 5/28/2011 6:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 18:48 -0400, David wrote: >> On 5/28/2011 6:22 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 17:16 -0400, David wrote: On 5/28/2011 5:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On 28/05/11 13:31, Steven Stern wrot

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/29/2011 07:38 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It's really all Ed's fault for changing the subject Guilty as charged :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 19:14 -0400, Gary Waters wrote: > My heartfelt apologies. I saw the word USB everywhere and figured, > naturally, that USB was involved. None of my VDI's worked either. I > simply removed, hit new, and re-added them with "use existing hard > disk." Everything fell into plac

Re: Today's GNOME3 funny

2011-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2011 03:06 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Bill Davidsen writes: > >> I was looking at gnome3.org today, and their FAQ says that "The >> traditional >> GNOME 2 desktop will not disappear overnight, however: releases of >> GNOME 2 >> will >> continue to be supported by distributions for years

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Gary Waters
On 05/28/2011 06:48 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 18:18 -0400, Gary Waters wrote: >> On 05/28/2011 01:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On 28/05/11 10:26, Steven Stern wrote: On 05/27/2011 10:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On 27/05/11 22:22, Ed Greshko wro

Re: NFS mounts at boot broken on F15?

2011-05-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/29/2011 06:43 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > You mean "man systemd.automount" (Louis misspelled it as well). Yes... I used c&p to respond. Good that you found it nonetheless. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admi

Re: NFS mounts at boot broken on F15?

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 18:13 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 03:41 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 05/29/2011 01:51 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Where is the "comment=" feature documented? It's not in the man page > > > given above, nor in the man pages for mount or

Re: NFS mounts at boot broken on F15?

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 18:13 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 03:41 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 05/29/2011 01:51 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Where is the "comment=" feature documented? It's not in the man page > > > given above, nor in the man pages for mount or

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 18:48 -0400, David wrote: > On 5/28/2011 6:22 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 17:16 -0400, David wrote: > >> On 5/28/2011 5:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >>> On 28/05/11 13:31, Steven Stern wrote: > On 05/28/2011 10:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 18:18 -0400, Gary Waters wrote: > On 05/28/2011 01:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On 28/05/11 10:26, Steven Stern wrote: > >> On 05/27/2011 10:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >>> On 27/05/11 22:22, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/28/2011 10:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread David
On 5/28/2011 6:22 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 17:16 -0400, David wrote: >> On 5/28/2011 5:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On 28/05/11 13:31, Steven Stern wrote: On 05/28/2011 10:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/28/2011 10:56 PM, Steven Stern wrote: >> M

Re: Accidentally setting home

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 12:18 -0700, suvayu ali wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > because the .* also > > includes .., the parent directory, which in this case is /home > > A quick question, how can one use globs to expand only dotfiles > without

Re: NFS mounts at boot broken on F15?

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 03:41 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/29/2011 01:51 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Where is the "comment=" feature documented? It's not in the man page > > given above, nor in the man pages for mount or nfs. > > > > I fount the man page Louis wrote about by googling "man

F15 KDE can't find the way to setup wireless

2011-05-28 Thread Vincent
Hello I want to thank you to the person that answer my add, I accidentally deleted the email . I found the invisible dot you point out to me for wireless setting unfortunately it did not connect. I enter the pass key as I had before couldn't find the way to connect. After few try and missteps I to

Re: Today's GNOME3 funny

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 17:12 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > I was looking at gnome3.org today, and their FAQ says that "The traditional > GNOME 2 desktop will not disappear overnight, however: releases of GNOME 2 > will > continue to be supported by distributions for years to come." so clearly the

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-05-28 at 17:16 -0400, David wrote: > On 5/28/2011 5:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On 28/05/11 13:31, Steven Stern wrote: > >> On 05/28/2011 10:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >>> On 05/28/2011 10:56 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > Make sure your user account is in the vboxusers group

Re: Samsung 2525w F15 installation problem

2011-05-28 Thread Gary Waters
On 05/28/2011 01:09 PM, fred smith wrote: > On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 12:54:04PM -0400, Gary Waters wrote: >> On 05/28/2011 12:18 PM, Gary Waters wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I purchased a samsung 2525w printer and installed it without a hitch in >>> fedora 12. Please note there appears to be no ppd fil

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Gary Waters
On 05/28/2011 01:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On 28/05/11 10:26, Steven Stern wrote: >> On 05/27/2011 10:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On 27/05/11 22:22, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/28/2011 10:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I haven't touched my home directory where the VM i

Re: Why no icons? Was, Re: How to switch back to metacity

2011-05-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Bill Davidsen writes: Retraining users to use GNOME3 and finding new tools to do old tasks is as productive as a decision to change from left hand to right hand drive cars while learning a from an instruction manual written in a language they have to learn first. Learning new things is good

Re: Why no icons? Was, Re: How to switch back to metacity

2011-05-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/28/2011 02:27 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Hubris? Developers infected with a "Windows Mentality" virus which causes them > to feel that providing a consistent user interface the user can't change is > morally superior to the "Have it your way" approach. You may be right in general. I don't k

Re: Today's GNOME3 funny

2011-05-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Bill Davidsen writes: I was looking at gnome3.org today, and their FAQ says that "The traditional GNOME 2 desktop will not disappear overnight, however: releases of GNOME 2 will continue to be supported by distributions for years to come." so clearly they Oh? Where exactly can I find my famil

Re: Why no icons? Was, Re: How to switch back to metacity

2011-05-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/28/2011 05:31 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> >> My biggest culture shock is losing all of my desktop icons. > > Now this is something I just can't understand. I don't want to start an > argument, but does anybody know why this decision was made? Hubris? Developers infected

F15 missing avatar

2011-05-28 Thread antonio montagnani
This is really a minor issue I updated my F14 to F15, and now I don't have any avatar in the login screen, even I have it in the screen saver (and I see in the account settings) any idea, has it already bugzilled? -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F15 (Lovelock) on Acer 5720 http:/

Re: F15 - 640MB RAM Requirement Issue

2011-05-28 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/28/2011 01:22 PM, Kam Leo wrote: >> It's a trade-off. If you have a fast internet connection but a slow >> processor you might actually be better off downloading the full rpm >> instead of waiting for your processor to decompress and/or merg

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread David
On 5/28/2011 5:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On 28/05/11 13:31, Steven Stern wrote: >> On 05/28/2011 10:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 05/28/2011 10:56 PM, Steven Stern wrote: Make sure your user account is in the vboxusers group or USB won't work. This was a change in the 4.x seri

No sound from Headphones in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Manuel Escudero
Just a Few days ago I wrote a thread to this list talking about my speakers-headphones issue, (Both play at the same time) That I use to solve using "pavucontrol" to select the desired output device from F12 to F14 (Now in F15 that "solution" doesn't work anymore) and more strange, Just Now I tried

Today's GNOME3 funny

2011-05-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
I was looking at gnome3.org today, and their FAQ says that "The traditional GNOME 2 desktop will not disappear overnight, however: releases of GNOME 2 will continue to be supported by distributions for years to come." so clearly they don't imagine everyone will drop all their software and retrai

Re: F15 -gnome3 login failure

2011-05-28 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Looks like a bug report has been filed; if any of you have suggestions I would appreciate it. Can not even login on this new machine with gnome. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=705078 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 28/05/11 13:31, Steven Stern wrote: > On 05/28/2011 10:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 05/28/2011 10:56 PM, Steven Stern wrote: >>> Make sure your user account is in the vboxusers group or USB won't work. >>> This was a change in the 4.x series on VirtualBox. >>> >> >> Doh! >> >> I hate when that

Re: F15 - 640MB RAM Requirement Issue

2011-05-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/28/2011 01:22 PM, Kam Leo wrote: > It's a trade-off. If you have a fast internet connection but a slow > processor you might actually be better off downloading the full rpm > instead of waiting for your processor to decompress and/or merge the > deltas. True. However, I inferred from what t

Re: Why no icons? Was, Re: How to switch back to metacity

2011-05-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/28/2011 11:08 AM, Steven Stern wrote: > Install gnome-tweak-tool and select "Have the File Manager handle the > desktop". Thank you, but that doesn't answer my question. And, as I now use XFCE not Gnome, I have no need of gnome-tweak-tool. Still, it may help those of you using Gnome 3. -

Re: F15 - 640MB RAM Requirement Issue

2011-05-28 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/28/2011 07:30 AM, Freak Trick wrote: >> Thanks! For the reply. But yum itself is horribly slow on F15 beta. > > This may not help now, but you should install the presto and > fastest-mirror plugins for yum.  Presto only downloads delta-rpms

Re: F15 - 640MB RAM Requirement Issue

2011-05-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/28/2011 07:30 AM, Freak Trick wrote: > Thanks! For the reply. But yum itself is horribly slow on F15 beta. This may not help now, but you should install the presto and fastest-mirror plugins for yum. Presto only downloads delta-rpms (They only contain what's changed since the last time th

Rpmfusion seems to be there.

2011-05-28 Thread Tom Horsley
For all the folks anxiously awaiting the advent of official rpmfusion repos for f15, I just visited rpmfusion.org and found the configuration info now includes f15. This is not an official statement, I just happened to notice and thought folks might want to know. -- users mailing list users@lists

Re: NFS mounts at boot broken on F15?

2011-05-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/29/2011 01:51 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Where is the "comment=" feature documented? It's not in the man page > given above, nor in the man pages for mount or nfs. > I fount the man page Louis wrote about by googling "man systmd.automount" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproje

Re: NFS mounts at boot broken on F15?

2011-05-28 Thread Mike Park
> I solaved the problem by adding a comment=systemd.automount > for the NFS mounts in fstab. See man systmd.automount > Louis Another way to solve this problem is to just use systemd unit files, placed in: /etc/systemd/system For example, here's a working pair of unit files that handle my auto

Re: Accidentally setting home

2011-05-28 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Michael, On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > because the .* also > includes .., the parent directory, which in this case is /home A quick question, how can one use globs to expand only dotfiles without including ".."? -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us f

Re: Was inn tested for F15

2011-05-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/28/2011 06:31 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > /var/run is now a tmpfs so data there will be lost at each reboot. I was about to ask why, when something went . Programs that need to make sure there's only one copy of them running (e.g., yum) use /var/run for their lockfiles so cleaning it out

Re: local IMAP server

2011-05-28 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
On 05/27/2011 06:59 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Tim wrote: > >> Fetchmail can run as a daemon, all by itself. > > Thanks for the suggestion. > Will this work OK if I'm collecting mail from several sites? > At present I've set the cron scripts to run at different times. > > I think I occasionally

Re: Why no icons? Was, Re: How to switch back to metacity

2011-05-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Steven Stern writes: On 05/28/2011 12:57 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/28/2011 05:31 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> >> My biggest culture shock is losing all of my desktop icons. > > Now this is something I just can't understand. I don't want to start an > argument, but does anybody know why this

Re: F14 - graphics problem with intel i915

2011-05-28 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/28/2011 02:32 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: More info: During boot - Plymouth (when nomodeset) seems to be running at the 1920 x 1024 resolution - then just before the GDM login screen - it jumps to lower resolution ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Was inn tested for F15

2011-05-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Bruno Wolff III writes: On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 09:19:49 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Has anyone tested inn in F15. Bug 708627 suggests that it never was. > > In addition to that bug, I think something keeps rm -rf-ing > /var/run/news every time I reboot, which will keep inn broken even >

Re: F14 - graphics problem with intel i915

2011-05-28 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/28/2011 02:07 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: One update - both kernels 2.6.38.6 and 2.6.39 mess up the screen the same way unless nomodeset is used to boot. With or without nomodeset, VESA driver is used - with nomodeset things are visible on screen (but stretched) - without nomodeset thi

Re: Why no icons? Was, Re: How to switch back to metacity

2011-05-28 Thread Steven Stern
On 05/28/2011 12:57 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/28/2011 05:31 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> >> My biggest culture shock is losing all of my desktop icons. > > Now this is something I just can't understand. I don't want to start an > argument, but does anybody know why this decision was made? Inst

F14 - graphics problem with intel i915

2011-05-28 Thread Genes MailLists
Can anyone help with this. 1) I have Lenovo W520 laptop. It has Optimus graphics - currently set to Intel Integrated lscpi reports : VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 0126 (rev 09) I wonder if the '0126' is an issue for fedora ? 2) I have managed t

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Steven Stern
On 05/28/2011 10:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/28/2011 10:56 PM, Steven Stern wrote: >> Make sure your user account is in the vboxusers group or USB won't work. >> This was a change in the 4.x series on VirtualBox. >> > > Doh! > > I hate when that happens Somehow I recall VBox giving a more

Why no icons? Was, Re: How to switch back to metacity

2011-05-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/28/2011 05:31 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > My biggest culture shock is losing all of my desktop icons. Now this is something I just can't understand. I don't want to start an argument, but does anybody know why this decision was made? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: NFS mounts at boot broken on F15?

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 28/05/11 09:52, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/28/2011 06:26 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: >> I solaved the problem by adding a comment=systemd.automount >> for the NFS mounts in fstab. See man systmd.automount >> Louis > > That is a very nice workaround. Where is the "comment=" feature documented? It'

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 28/05/11 10:26, Steven Stern wrote: > On 05/27/2011 10:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On 27/05/11 22:22, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 05/28/2011 10:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I haven't touched my home directory where the VM is kept, so any light on this would be welcome.

Re: Accidentally setting home

2011-05-28 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 16:23, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 28 May 2011 16:02:13 +0300, DC wrote: > >> I came across an interesting warning while googling an issue: >> apparently chowning another user's home directory will change your own >> home directory? That is what is warned here: >> htt

Re: Samsung 2525w F15 installation problem

2011-05-28 Thread fred smith
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 12:54:04PM -0400, Gary Waters wrote: > On 05/28/2011 12:18 PM, Gary Waters wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I purchased a samsung 2525w printer and installed it without a hitch in > > fedora 12. Please note there appears to be no ppd file for this printer, > > but a 3-part driver d

Re: Samsung 2525w F15 installation problem

2011-05-28 Thread Gary Waters
On 05/28/2011 12:18 PM, Gary Waters wrote: > Hello, > > I purchased a samsung 2525w printer and installed it without a hitch in > fedora 12. Please note there appears to be no ppd file for this printer, > but a 3-part driver download. Everything worked fine in F12; however, > this is not the case i

Samsung 2525w F15 installation problem

2011-05-28 Thread Gary Waters
Hello, I purchased a samsung 2525w printer and installed it without a hitch in fedora 12. Please note there appears to be no ppd file for this printer, but a 3-part driver download. Everything worked fine in F12; however, this is not the case in F15. Below are the error messages I get when att

Re: F15 -gnome3 login failure

2011-05-28 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
List, I have a new install of F15 on a Dell 8250 with 1.2 g of memory. I did the install from the 386 iso and everything went well. When trying to login to a user account using gnome I get a graphic message telling me : "On no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can'

Re: F14->F15 after preupgrade boot hang

2011-05-28 Thread Dj YB
On Friday May 27 2011 12:42:27 Ian Malone wrote: > On 27 May 2011 10:32, Dj YB wrote: > > On Friday May 27 2011 12:24:03 you wrote: > >> On 27 May 2011 09:53, Dj YB wrote: > >> > Hello, > >> > on my other F14 installation did a preupgrade yesterday then rebooted > >> > and then waited forever and

Rhythmbox fragility

2011-05-28 Thread Steven Stern
Is anyone else annoyed that rhythmbox is so fragile? It seems like it crashes any time I make any sort of change. And with the last upgrade, it reset all my previously set preferences. Latest bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708647 -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@list

How does the user theme extension work?

2011-05-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I installed gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme. Based on my Googling, this should get me a "Themes" tab under Activities. But there's nothing there. No change after a reboot. Somebody give me a clue on how to use it. pgp4rBxpoC8px.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@

Re: gpk-repo

2011-05-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/26/2011 11:58 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: > In Fedora 15 where is gpk-repo as after updating I get the warning the > file is not found?? Try gpk-prefs instead Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorapro

Re: KDE Laggy in Fresh F15

2011-05-28 Thread Kevin H. Hobbs
> From: Clemens Eisserer > >> > I have not installed any software not in Fedora's repository (no >> > nvidia drivers). > Yeah, I guess you are hitting nouveau bugs here. > So why don't you simply install the nvidia drivers? > > Do the problems also happen with desktop effects disabled? > > - Cle

F15 -gnome3 login failure

2011-05-28 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
List, I have a new install of F15 on a Dell 8250 with 1.2 g of memory. I did the install from the 386 iso and everything went well. When trying to login to a user account using gnome I get a graphic message telling me : "On no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can'

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/28/2011 10:56 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > Make sure your user account is in the vboxusers group or USB won't work. > This was a change in the 4.x series on VirtualBox. > Doh! I hate when that happens Somehow I recall VBox giving a more informative error message when you forgot one of th

Re: VirtualBox problem in F15

2011-05-28 Thread Steven Stern
On 05/27/2011 10:37 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On 27/05/11 22:22, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 05/28/2011 10:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> I haven't touched my home directory where the VM is kept, so any light >>> on this would be welcome. >>> >> No info on your particular error. I don't

Re: local IMAP server

2011-05-28 Thread Lewis NH2
Hi All, thanks so far for all worthy information provided so far. I personally agree to leave such tasks to professionals, as long as you can afford their services and those meet your requirements. IMHO, you should always consider this possibility before embarking on some 'home brew solution'. I

Re: F15 - 640MB RAM Requirement Issue

2011-05-28 Thread Freak Trick
Hi, Thanks! For the reply. But yum itself is horribly slow on F15 beta. I rarely get above 7 Kbps, which makes online upgrade very frustrating. I even tried a lot of suggestions over the web for changing mirrors, configuring name-servers etc., none helped. But, things seem to be working fine

Re: F15- IMPORTANT Network Manager

2011-05-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/28/2011 09:19 PM, antonio wrote: > re-upgraded again and I confirm that I loose all networks (I get a two > screen applet wit a red cross on it on upper right part of the screen. > I am running it on an Acer laptop with Intel motherboard and wireless card > > Works fine here. I've got an MS

Re: NFS mounts at boot broken on F15?

2011-05-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/28/2011 06:26 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: > I solaved the problem by adding a comment=systemd.automount > for the NFS mounts in fstab. See man systmd.automount > Louis That is a very nice workaround. Thanks, Ed -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change sub

Re: F15 evolution crashes, FYI. (Was: Reverting evolution to Fedora 15)

2011-05-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On 28/05/11 05:30, Gilboa Davara wrote: >> P.S. It still crashing from time to time, I'm still trying to figure >> out what triggers the crash... >> >> - Gilboa > > I think found the bugger! > I'm using message filters to force evolution into gmail like behavior. > Both Incoming and outgoing emails

Re: Graphical tool for repo management

2011-05-28 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno sab, 28/05/2011 alle 15.28 +0200, antonio montagnani ha scritto: > gpk-prefs [dario@f15sony8 ~]$ type gpk-prefs gpk-prefs is hashed (/usr/bin/gpk-prefs) [dario@f15sony8 ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/gpk-prefs gnome-packagekit-3.0.0-5.fc15.i686 [dario@f15sony8 ~]$ cat /etc/issue Fedora release 15

GUI fc-list tool?

2011-05-28 Thread Tom Horsley
Before I try to write this tool myself (which I probably won't finish anyway :-) I thought I'd ask if there is a tool, perhaps a little like the old xfontsel tool, but one which works with the fontconfig library and lets me match or exclude fonts based on all the font attributes provided by fontcon

Re: Graphical tool for repo management

2011-05-28 Thread Bryce Hardy
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 6:28 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: >> It got rolled into gpk-prefs -- hope that helps. > I don't find gpk-prefs in repos!!! sure about typing?? I think they mean the Preferences dialog in PackageKit Package Mangager. -- Bryce Hardy -- users mailing list users@lists.fe

Re: Was inn tested for F15

2011-05-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 09:19:49 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Has anyone tested inn in F15. Bug 708627 suggests that it never was. > > In addition to that bug, I think something keeps rm -rf-ing > /var/run/news every time I reboot, which will keep inn broken even > after this bug gets fixed.

Re: Graphical tool for repo management

2011-05-28 Thread antonio montagnani
Richard Hughes ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 28/05/2011 14:56: > On 27 May 2011 06:51, antonio wrote: >> Up to Fedora 14 I had a graphical repo management tool installed >> (Gpk-repo I assume), after update to Fedora 15 such a tool is missing >> (only applet is available, but no

Re: Accidentally setting home

2011-05-28 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 28 May 2011 16:02:13 +0300, DC wrote: > I came across an interesting warning while googling an issue: > apparently chowning another user's home directory will change your own > home directory? That is what is warned here: > http://www.ambience.sk/old/user-account-copy-linux > Search that p

Re: KDE Laggy in Fresh F15

2011-05-28 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> I have not installed any software not in Fedora's repository (no > nvidia drivers). Yeah, I guess you are hitting nouveau bugs here. So why don't you simply install the nvidia drivers? Do the problems also happen with desktop effects disabled? - Clemens -- users mailing list users@lists.fedora

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