Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-28 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 07:08:58 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 03/29/2011 05:48 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Ralf > > Corsepius wrote: > >>> Perhaps "control+shift+n" ? > >> Yeah, ... this finally did it. > >> > >> But note how long it took to find this out - IMO, it

Re: wifi troubleshooting

2011-03-28 Thread JD
On 03/28/2011 09:06 PM, Adam Tong wrote: > Hi, > > That's a very good idea. > Is there any kind of dongles that are more suitable for fedora or I can pick > any wifi enabled one? > > Thank you > > > --- On Mon, 3/28/11, bruce wrote: > > From: bruce > Subject: Re: wifi troubleshooting > To: "Commu

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/29/2011 07:17 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/29/2011 01:08 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> In Gnome3 such a UI doesn't exist, users are being forced to dig into >> keyboard short cuts == Lack of usability. > > Seeing as F15 is "alpha" maybe it would be helpful to bring up your > observations on t

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 03/29/2011 01:08 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > In Gnome3 such a UI doesn't exist, users are being forced to dig into > keyboard short cuts == Lack of usability. Seeing as F15 is "alpha" maybe it would be helpful to bring up your observations on the t...@lists.fedoraproject.org list? And, of cou

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/29/2011 05:48 AM, suvayu ali wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >>> Perhaps "control+shift+n" ? >> Yeah, ... this finally did it. >> >> But note how long it took to find this out - IMO, it proves Gnome3's >> lack of usability. >> > > I don't get it. What has this

Re: wifi troubleshooting

2011-03-28 Thread Adam Tong
Hi, That's a very good idea. Is there any kind of dongles that are more suitable for fedora or I can pick any wifi enabled one? Thank you --- On Mon, 3/28/11, bruce wrote: From: bruce Subject: Re: wifi troubleshooting To: "Community support for Fedora users" Date: Monday, March 28, 2011, 4

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-28 Thread suvayu ali
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> Perhaps "control+shift+n" ? > Yeah, ... this finally did it. > > But note how long it took to find this out - IMO, it proves Gnome3's > lack of usability. > I don't get it. What has this got to do with Gnome 3? This is a standard shortcut

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/28/2011 10:01 PM, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: >> On 03/21/2011 09:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> On 03/21/2011 10:07 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: * Try to open 2 side-by-side terminals on Fedora 15's Gnome 3: I haven't managed to do so, yet. >>> >>> Right click - New window or control+s

Re: wifi troubleshooting

2011-03-28 Thread bruce
Hi Adam. Since you have a usb port, do you have a separate usb/wireless dongle that you can insert in the usb port to see if it gets recognized by the OS. you can get cheap dlink wireless dongles to test (and then take back to the store!!). I've always got a cheap dlink to use as a test for usb

Re: wifi troubleshooting

2011-03-28 Thread Adam Tong
Hi, >This version of Linux DOES indeed support rt2xxx chipsets, so I am at a loss >as to why it is not detecting your USB wifi device which has this chipset. I appreciate your help. You know, this is an old laptop that came with windows. This is the kind of deal windows make with some manufactu

Re: Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Andras Simon wrote: > Or not. People who make decisions in IT departments on which OS to run > on their servers are hopefully not basing those decisions on who's > supplying the OS for their gadgets. Exactly, that must be why Novell never lost any market share and

Re: Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Andras Simon
On 3/28/11, Fernando Cassia wrote: > In which way can porting Fedora/RH to run on tables contributes to > MAKING A LOSS or NOT generating a profit?. By having to pay people, infrastructure, whatever. > In fact, having people talk about your brand/name creates mindshare, > and thus indirectly bo

Re: Virtual Box & Windows -

2011-03-28 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 28/03/11 10:47, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > Bob: > Pretty much all about Grub: > http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub.html > > A minor point: Fedora's configuration file for grub is grub.conf rather > that menu.lst, menu.lst is a link to grub.conf. > > Also, this document does *not* apply to G

Re: Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > Red Hat is a SEC listed business whose > primary job is making shareholders and customers happy by generating a > regular profit. Wow, I´m sure nobody here knew that. *sarcasm* In which way can porting Fedora/RH to run on tables contributes to

Re: Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:36:40 -0600 Linuxguy123 wrote: > Ubuntu does ARM right now. > > Ubuntu has a netbook version. > > Ubuntu has Unity. > > http://www.canonical.com/engineering-services/oem-services/why-ubuntu/products > > If Redhat isn't going to cater to this market, I have a feeling som

Ubuntu Was Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Linuxguy123
Ubuntu does ARM right now. Ubuntu has a netbook version. Ubuntu has Unity. http://www.canonical.com/engineering-services/oem-services/why-ubuntu/products If Redhat isn't going to cater to this market, I have a feeling someone else will. Its great that Redhat focuses on its markets, but I think

Re: Compiz crashes after plugging in external monitor

2011-03-28 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Monday 28 March 2011 18:19:53 valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: >> is anybody using Fedora having issue with compiz crashing while >> plugging in external monitor? >> This issue has happen to me on Fedora 12, 13 and now on 14. > > I've b

Re: qemu update for fc13 broken?

2011-03-28 Thread Ken Smith
Bill Davidsen wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> compdoc wrote: >> Keyboard works, mouse doesn't. Does that give you any clues? >>> >>> I'm using qemu-kvm 0.14.0, and I have to run the command like this or >>> neither the mouse or keyboard works: >>> >>> qemu-kv

Re: [389-users] ldap browser hangs entire server

2011-03-28 Thread Quint Van Deman
Thanks Rich-- Is the release candidate stable enough fro production use at this point? On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: > On 03/28/2011 12:51 PM, Quint Van Deman wrote: >> >> Hello-- >> >> I'm seeing some odd behaviour in a 389ds installation, and I'd like to >> know if ot

Re: Compiz crashes after plugging in external monitor

2011-03-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 28 March 2011 18:19:53 valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: > is anybody using Fedora having issue with compiz crashing while > plugging in external monitor? > This issue has happen to me on Fedora 12, 13 and now on 14. I've been using compiz/emerald on top of KDE since F9, and it never ever

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-28 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
> On 03/21/2011 09:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 03/21/2011 10:07 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> * Try to open 2 side-by-side terminals on Fedora 15's Gnome 3: > >> I haven't managed to do so, yet. > > > > Right click - New window or control+shift+t if you are using GNOME Terminal > > Doesn

Re: wifi troubleshooting

2011-03-28 Thread JD
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Adam Tong wrote: > Hi, > > > > > This means you have not configured your network. > > But how could you when the kernl has not detected > > your wifi card? > > > > As I had indicated before, kernel 2.6.35 is the first > > kernel > > that started supporting the R

Re: wifi troubleshooting

2011-03-28 Thread Adam Tong
Hi, > > This means you have not configured your network. > But how could you when the kernl has not detected > your wifi card? > > As I had indicated before, kernel 2.6.35 is the first > kernel > that started  supporting the Ralink rt28xxx chipset. > > What kernel version are you running? Have

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/28/2011 11:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> The only people who can realistically target tablets are the ones with >> commercial backing and a business plan. It is not a market where a >> volunteer community can easily thrive in. It

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/28/2011 11:28 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 14:35 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >>> Okay, so you know that ARM is a secondary ARCH in Fedora. You're just >>> wanting someone with a bit of spare money (quite a bit, really)

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > The only people who can realistically target tablets are the ones with > commercial backing and a business plan.  It is not a market where a > volunteer community can easily thrive in.  It requires custom built > kernels,  patching all over

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/28/2011 11:05 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> Okay, so you know that ARM is a secondary ARCH in Fedora. You're just >> wanting someone with a bit of spare money (quite a bit, really) to >> start making hardware with Fedora pre-installed. > No

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Linuxguy123
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 14:35 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > > Okay, so you know that ARM is a secondary ARCH in Fedora. You're just > > wanting someone with a bit of spare money (quite a bit, really) to > > start making hardware with Fedora pre-i

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:15:51 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: > > Well... given the demise of Meego, more or less, and the pending demise > of Symbian and the fact that Nokia just signed a deal with the software > devil to use Windows on their handsets, I think there is a huge > opportunity for Re

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > Okay, so you know that ARM is a secondary ARCH in Fedora. You're just > wanting someone with a bit of spare money (quite a bit, really) to > start making hardware with Fedora pre-installed. Not exactly. Re-read what I said. Fedora should test an

Re: Update fail

2011-03-28 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/28/2011 07:58 PM, Krosh Ivanov wrote: > Joe, > Take a look at what I found: "Fedora 14 includes a tech preview of > systemd, a next-generation replacement for Upstart and SystemV init. > Systemd allows for parallel and on-demand starting of services and > features, which will result in faster

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread suvayu ali
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I think there is a huge > opportunity for Redhat to go after the mobile device market.  Just look > at the success of Android.   A lot of players in the mobile market would > love to partner with someone other than Google. I think you will fi

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Alan Cox
> Well... given the demise of Meego, more or less, and the pending demise Meego isn't dead. > of Symbian and the fact that Nokia just signed a deal with the software > devil to use Windows on their handsets, I think there is a huge > opportunity for Redhat to go after the mobile device market. J

Compiz crashes after plugging in external monitor

2011-03-28 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Hi, is anybody using Fedora having issue with compiz crashing while plugging in external monitor? This issue has happen to me on Fedora 12, 13 and now on 14. I would like to help and track down this bug. I have collected some abrt logs but having more people with same issue always help to track do

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Linuxguy123
On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 15:20 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > What is the commercial reason to do this then? I understand what -you- > want - but redhat needs to have a business reason to leverage this - > like RHEL derives from fedora ... > > Unless there's a rational business plan it makes no se

Re: [389-users] high-rate queries

2011-03-28 Thread Karoly Czovek
Let me wait for the next errors, switched back accesslog pkg info: Name : 389-ds-base Arch : i386 Version: 1.2.7.5 Release: 1.el5 Size : 5.4 M Repo : installed Summary: 389 Directory Server (base) On Mar 28, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: > On 03/2

Re: Which Linux to use with a Mac?

2011-03-28 Thread JD
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > Sorry I missed this. I don't get on the list often enough, lately. > > (But I have this deja vu feeling, too.) > > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:30 AM, James McKenzie > wrote: > > All: > > > > I am looking at installing Linux on a very old piece of

Re: [OT Humor] "Obviously designed by morons"

2011-03-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/22/2011 05:14 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 03/21/2011 09:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 03/21/2011 10:07 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >>> * Try to open 2 side-by-side terminals on Fedora 15's Gnome 3: >>> I haven't managed to do so, yet. >> >> Right click - New window or control+shift+t i

Re: Update fail

2011-03-28 Thread john wendel
On 03/28/2011 07:28 AM, Krosh Ivanov wrote: > Joe, > Take a look at what I found: "Fedora 14 includes a tech preview of > systemd, a next-generation replacement for Upstart and SystemV init. > Systemd allows for parallel and on-demand starting of services and > features, which will result in faster

Re: chkfontpath package in Fedora 15 Alpha

2011-03-28 Thread fsos...@gmail.com
I'm ok after reading the fontconfig man page. I need to integrate javafont (from Java 6). Is someone knows if Java is able to deal with linux Fontconfig library ? regards, On 28 March 2011 16:16, fsos...@gmail.com wrote: > thanks for that info > > 2011/3/28 François Patte : >> -BEGIN PGP S

Re: [389-users] high-rate queries

2011-03-28 Thread Karoly Czovek
i can reproduce, but the server is in production. if the clients got this error then i also unable to connect with ldapsearch. just now appeared, i have full verbose trace logs, but nothin intrestring, but a ton from theese 28/Mar/2011:10:33:00 -0400] - => slapi_reslimit_get_integer_limit() con

Re: Virtual Box & Windows -

2011-03-28 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:30:13 -0400 Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 27/03/11 18:32, Mikkel wrote: > > On 03/22/2011 04:19 PM, compdoc wrote: > >>> My problem is > >>> that the only way I can get Windows to run is to plug it into > >>> the first slot, then Windows boots but I never see grub. > >> By first

Re: Re: Update fail

2011-03-28 Thread Krosh Ivanov
Joe, Take a look at what I found: "Fedora 14 includes a tech preview of systemd, a next-generation replacement for Upstart and SystemV init. Systemd allows for parallel and on-demand starting of services and features, which will result in faster boot times.". It seems that yum didn't install correc

Re: chkfontpath package in Fedora 15 Alpha

2011-03-28 Thread fsos...@gmail.com
thanks for that info 2011/3/28 François Patte : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Le 28/03/2011 14:05, fsos...@gmail.com a écrit : >> Hello, >> >> I need to use chkfontpath command but I cannot find it in Fedora 15 Alpha. >> >> It seems philosophy for font and font server for X

Re: [389-users] high-rate queries

2011-03-28 Thread Karoly Czovek
OK, found it. Disabled the restart cronjob, let me see what happens... error log was set to connections, i guess i'll need loglevel. Any idea, what settings i need basicly @server side, with so 'high' connection rate? On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Gerrard Geldenhuis wrote: > Hi Karoly, > When

Re: chkfontpath package in Fedora 15 Alpha

2011-03-28 Thread François Patte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 28/03/2011 14:05, fsos...@gmail.com a écrit : > Hello, > > I need to use chkfontpath command but I cannot find it in Fedora 15 Alpha. > > It seems philosophy for font and font server for X has been changed. > Is there any doc to understand how it

chkfontpath package in Fedora 15 Alpha

2011-03-28 Thread fsos...@gmail.com
Hello, I need to use chkfontpath command but I cannot find it in Fedora 15 Alpha. It seems philosophy for font and font server for X has been changed. Is there any doc to understand how it works now? Thanks in advance, regards, Frederic -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Virtual Box & Windows -

2011-03-28 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 28/03/11 06:41, Andras Simon wrote: > On 3/28/11, Bob Goodwin wrote: > >> I managed to create a grub.conf that works [a minor miracle]. >> However I am interested in this. >> >> I don't see the "map" option in man grub? >> >> Info grub is hard to deal with, c

Re: Virtual Box & Windows -

2011-03-28 Thread Andras Simon
On 3/28/11, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > I managed to create a grub.conf that works [a minor miracle]. > However I am interested in this. > > I don't see the "map" option in man grub? > > Info grub is hard to deal with, copied it to info.txt which > produces 73 p

Re: [389-users] high-rate queries

2011-03-28 Thread Karoly Czovek
Ok. Migrating from openldap with 4 slave replicas to 389DS, so i am new in the world of 389DS but my boss is forcing it cos have nice UI ;) Where i can check for verbose error logs or increase log level? On Mar 28, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Gerrard Geldenhuis wrote: > Hi Karoly, > You give very little

Re: Virtual Box & Windows -

2011-03-28 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 27/03/11 18:32, Mikkel wrote: > On 03/22/2011 04:19 PM, compdoc wrote: >>> My problem is >>> that the only way I can get Windows to run is to plug it into >>> the first slot, then Windows boots but I never see grub. >> By first slot I guess you sata port? It's been a while since I've noticed >>

Re: Linux on ARM tablets?

2011-03-28 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > >> Unless there's a rational business plan it makes no sense to sponsor >> this ... think like a businessperson .. > > Is mindshare and brand promotion not a reason enough? If you

Re: Which Linux to use with a Mac?

2011-03-28 Thread Joel Rees
Sorry I missed this. I don't get on the list often enough, lately. (But I have this deja vu feeling, too.) On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:30 AM, James McKenzie wrote: > All: > > I am looking at installing Linux on a very old piece of hardware. I've > tried FC12/13/14 but the screen is 'messed up' and