Re: No Sound on F13 (Realtek ALC889 on board)

2010-10-10 Thread JB
Nakai yahoo.co.jp> writes: > > Hello all, > > I have a problem with sound, there is no sound on Fedora 13. > Hi, it happens to me as well from time to time. If you can afford it, reboot your machine to restore sound - it worked every time for me :-) JB -- users mailing list users@lis

Re: No Sound on F13 (Realtek ALC889 on board)

2010-10-10 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 19:25 -0700, JD wrote: > One last thing. > We just finished discussing a point about posting to this list. > Please do not top post. Always append your replies at the bottom. > This is the etiquette in the Guidelines which you see at the > bottom of every message you get from

Re: No Sound on F13 (Realtek ALC889 on board)

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 09:50 PM, Nakai wrote: > (10/11/2010 12:51 PM), Paul Morgan wrote: >> have you tried loading the pc speaker module? >> >> (android f'n top post-sorry) >> On Oct 10, 2010 11:38 PM, "JD" wrote: >>> On 10/10/2010 08:16 PM, Nakai wrote: (10/11/2010 11:25 AM), JD wrote: > Well

Re: No Sound on F13 (Realtek ALC889 on board)

2010-10-10 Thread Nakai
(10/11/2010 12:51 PM), Paul Morgan wrote: > have you tried loading the pc speaker module? > > (android f'n top post-sorry) > On Oct 10, 2010 11:38 PM, "JD" wrote: >> On 10/10/2010 08:16 PM, Nakai wrote: >>> (10/11/2010 11:25 AM), JD wrote: Well, one more thing. Have you installed gst-mix

Re: No Sound on F13 (Realtek ALC889 on board)

2010-10-10 Thread Paul Morgan
have you tried loading the pc speaker module? (android f'n top post-sorry) On Oct 10, 2010 11:38 PM, "JD" wrote: > On 10/10/2010 08:16 PM, Nakai wrote: >> (10/11/2010 11:25 AM), JD wrote: >>> Well, one more thing. >>> Have you installed gst-mixer-2.26.0-3.fc11.i586 ? >>> (Sorry, Fedora stopped pa

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 08:29 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 10/10/2010 09:59 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > >> The mail client is usually the one that adds the >> message id. If it doesn't, then gmail is the one >> adding it. > > As far as I know - the message ID is the responsibility of the MTA > not the

Re: No Sound on F13 (Realtek ALC889 on board)

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 08:16 PM, Nakai wrote: > (10/11/2010 11:25 AM), JD wrote: >> Well, one more thing. >> Have you installed gst-mixer-2.26.0-3.fc11.i586 ? >> (Sorry, Fedora stopped packaging it after F11), but >> you can still download it from here: >> sudo rpm -ivh >> download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/

Re: install fedora 13 problem

2010-10-10 Thread Mirko Jankovic
hmmm changing card just to get OS running isn't something that should be happening. Especially a bit more expensive one like this one. By the way all this playing with fedora back at home is just to get myself familiarized enough so that I can switch to Linux back at office if I get everything

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/10/2010 09:59 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > The mail client is usually the one that adds the > message id. If it doesn't, then gmail is the one > adding it. As far as I know - the message ID is the responsibility of the MTA not the MUA - the MUA creates or appends to the References: heade

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread g
On 10/10/2010 09:40 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > JD wrote: >> On 10/10/2010 01:22 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: On 10 October 2010 21:01, Tim wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 09:02 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote: > Has anyone ever noticed that gmail (and likely a lot of other online

Re: No Sound on F13 (Realtek ALC889 on board)

2010-10-10 Thread Nakai
(10/11/2010 11:25 AM), JD wrote: > Well, one more thing. > Have you installed gst-mixer-2.26.0-3.fc11.i586 ? > (Sorry, Fedora stopped packaging it after F11), but > you can still download it from here: > sudo rpm -ivh > download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/11/i386/gst-mixer-2.26.0-3

Re: No Sound on F13 (Realtek ALC889 on board)

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 07:02 PM, Nakai wrote: > Hi, JD > > pulseaudio is running. > > $ ps -ef | grep pulseaudio > username 17151 1 0 08:35 ?00:00:04 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start > username 20309 20286 0 10:46 pts/200:00:00 grep pulseaudio > > > $ aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Le

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 06:59 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:35:37 -0700 > JD wrote: > >> Is there a way to view the message ID before >> it sent by the mail client You got me curious! :) > The mail client is usually the one that adds the > message id. If it doesn't, then gmail is the one

Re: Can I know which fedora is stable?

2010-10-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:24 AM, James Mckenzie wrote: > Steve Searle wrote: >>Sent: Oct 1, 2010 7:46 AM >>To: James Mckenzie , Community support for Fedora >>users >>Subject: Re: Can I know which fedora is stable? >> [...] About the most concise answer I know of is > This is why I use CentOS

Re: No Sound on F13 (Realtek ALC889 on board)

2010-10-10 Thread Nakai
Hi, JD pulseaudio is running. $ ps -ef | grep pulseaudio username 17151 1 0 08:35 ?00:00:04 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start username 20309 20286 0 10:46 pts/200:00:00 grep pulseaudio $ aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.wav Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Left.

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:35:37 -0700 JD wrote: > Is there a way to view the message ID before > it sent by the mail client You got me curious! :) The mail client is usually the one that adds the message id. If it doesn't, then gmail is the one adding it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedorapro

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread Todd Zullinger
JD wrote: > Not to belabor the point, but everytime someone nudges an op not to > top post, a whole chain of posts follows that really muddies the > whole picture. There are plenty of people on this list who seem > adamant that top posting is the natural way to go :) Well, I'd never reply just to

Re: My HaSee( a relatively small manufacture in China ) Laptop cannot not poweroff when I shut down my system even if using halt -p or poweroff -p command

2010-10-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Zhanhui Li wrote: > Hey, everyone >    I run into a problem as described in the subject. Here is the basic > information of my system. >  Hardware: InsydeH20 mainboard Intel core 2 CPU. > OS: Fedora 13 > problem description: > > Every time I shutdown my system,

Re: repo error - anyone else seeing this?

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 06:37 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Dave Stevens wrote: >> Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: >> fedora. Please verify its path and try again >> >> Ideas, anyone? I've done # yum clean all >> > I sometimes get that a lot

Re: No Sound on F13 (Realtek ALC889 on board)

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 06:20 PM, Nakai wrote: > Hello all, > > I have a problem with sound, there is no sound on Fedora 13. > > It had worked fully on F11. > Since it was upgraded to F12, it have NOT worked > and still this problem remains on F13. > > It does not seem to be coursed by volume-control mute.

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 06:11 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > James McKenzie wrote: >> On 10/10/10 1:42 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: >>> Does it not send the list guidelines when you subscribe? > [...] >> No. But the link is at the bottom of every message sent out by the >> list server. > In fact, it does send the li

Re: repo error - anyone else seeing this?

2010-10-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Dave Stevens wrote: > Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: > fedora. Please verify its path and try again > > Ideas, anyone? I've done # yum clean all > I sometimes get that a lot when I can't remember the correct URL to give the

No Sound on F13 (Realtek ALC889 on board)

2010-10-10 Thread Nakai
Hello all, I have a problem with sound, there is no sound on Fedora 13. It had worked fully on F11. Since it was upgraded to F12, it have NOT worked and still this problem remains on F13. It does not seem to be coursed by volume-control mute. According to dmsg, the device seems to be recognized

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread Todd Zullinger
James McKenzie wrote: > On 10/10/10 1:42 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: >> Does it not send the list guidelines when you subscribe? [...] > No. But the link is at the bottom of every message sent out by the > list server. In fact, it does send the link to the guidelines in the welcome message: Welcome

Re: Fedora Forum down?

2010-10-10 Thread Dwight Paige
On 10/10/2010 06:39 PM, JD wrote: >On 10/10/2010 03:00 PM, Dwight Paige wrote: >> Since about 5 hours ago when I try to go here: >> >> http://fedoraforum.org/ or http://forums.fedoraforum.org/ >> >> I get an empty page in Firefox or Konqueror. >> Any idea what's up? >> This works >> >> http

touchpad not working in Fedora 13 x86_64

2010-10-10 Thread Paul Morgan
Problem --- Touchpad does not work on a Sony Vaio laptop VPCEB33FM with Fedora 13 x86_64. Troubleshooting --- I've looked at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Input_device_configuration and performed some troubleshooting. Files and command output I've posted

Re: install fedora 13 problem

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 03:27 PM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: > Hey people. > I'm jumping into fedora train right now but got some problems :) > I've already got two installs without much problems.. one on my laptop > and another fedora13 install on an older comp just to test it a bit > before installing it on

Re: Fedora Forum down?

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 03:00 PM, Dwight Paige wrote: >Since about 5 hours ago when I try to go here: > > http://fedoraforum.org/ or http://forums.fedoraforum.org/ > > I get an empty page in Firefox or Konqueror. > Any idea what's up? > This works > > http://fedoraproject.org/ > It responds to pings (w

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 02:57 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:07:10 -0700 > JD wrote: > >> Gmail does not keep track of email content to see >> if it was the same message that sent by the user, >> coming back to the user. > It keeps track of message-id, and the message-id is the > one it as

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 02:40 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > Threading mail is very convenient, this is true, but this particular posting > is a prime example of the disadvantage of bottom-posting. One has to scroll > and scroll and scroll all the way to the very, very bottom before one can > read what

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Linuxguy123
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 11:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 12:12 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > The good things about gmail are: > > > > * it is free of charge, > > * it has a large storage capacity (cca. 7GB per user), > > * it is hardly blacklisted anywhere, > > * i

Re: Fedora Forum down?

2010-10-10 Thread Dwight Paige
On 10/10/2010 05:36 PM, Greg Bair wrote: > On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 17:00 -0500, Dwight Paige wrote: >> Since about 5 hours ago when I try to go here: >> >> http://fedoraforum.org/ or http://forums.fedoraforum.org/ >> >> I get an empty page in Firefox or Konqueror. >> Any idea what's up? >> This works

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/11/2010 06:14 AM, Tim wrote: > When someone actually means interspersed/interleaved quoting, then they > should call it that. Don't use the wrong terminology. I just call it "proper" quoting. :-) :-) -- "First things first -- but not necessarily in that order" -- The Doctor, "Doctor Wh

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Matthew J. Roth
Tim wrote: > You probably can't fix the threading problems, those things sound more > like faults, or badly designed software which simply doesn't do > everything that it should do with email. But the long line issue may be > a configuration option. All the things you brought up are mentioned > be

Re: Fedora Forum down?

2010-10-10 Thread Greg Bair
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 17:00 -0500, Dwight Paige wrote: > Since about 5 hours ago when I try to go here: > > http://fedoraforum.org/ or http://forums.fedoraforum.org/ > > I get an empty page in Firefox or Konqueror. > Any idea what's up? > This works > > http://fedoraproject.org/ > > -- > Thank

install fedora 13 problem

2010-10-10 Thread Mirko Jankovic
Hey people. I'm jumping into fedora train right now but got some problems :) I've already got two installs without much problems.. one on my laptop and another fedora13 install on an older comp just to test it a bit before installing it on my main comp. But now I've got a problem. Both those instal

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 10 October 2010 23:14, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 15:40 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: >> Has anyone ever noticed that gmail (and likely a lot of other online >> email services and desktop software) opens a gap at the top for typing >> the response? > > That doesn't mean you have to

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 15:40 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > Has anyone ever noticed that gmail (and likely a lot of other online > email services and desktop software) opens a gap at the top for typing > the response? That doesn't mean you have to type there, it just means start working on th

Fedora Forum down?

2010-10-10 Thread Dwight Paige
Since about 5 hours ago when I try to go here: http://fedoraforum.org/ or http://forums.fedoraforum.org/ I get an empty page in Firefox or Konqueror. Any idea what's up? This works http://fedoraproject.org/ -- Thanks, Dwight Paige -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:07:10 -0700 JD wrote: > Gmail does not keep track of email content to see > if it was the same message that sent by the user, > coming back to the user. It keeps track of message-id, and the message-id is the one it assigns when you send it and is the same as the one it has

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Tim
Sam Sharpe: > Err... you summarised the reasoning and history behind two of the most > important list guidelines and forgot the 3rd most often discussed > problem. No, I was just answering a question, nothing more. > You also forgot to check the sense of humour flag attached to my post :o( More

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 13:55 -0700, JD wrote: > Well, if we take a survey of the list and ask the question, > how many will reply truthfully whether they read it or not? > I only read it once very very long ago beore I even subscribed :) > Hmmm... time for a refresher course :) Yes, I have. And if

Fedora 13 config display

2010-10-10 Thread mike lan
Hello Installed Fedora 13, my only trouble so far is the display config, normally install kmod-nvidia and system-config-display makes the screen fits the whole screen in 1024x768 , but not in F13. I don't know how to fix that, thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 10 October 2010 22:44, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 21:22 +0100, Sam Sharpe wrote: >> You forgot to mention why top-posting should be avoided... > > No, I did not.  They didn't ask about that.  I answered the first part > of their query ("why" what was happening, was happening). Err... y

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 21:22 +0100, Sam Sharpe wrote: > You forgot to mention why top-posting should be avoided... No, I did not. They didn't ask about that. I answered the first part of their query ("why" what was happening, was happening). -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
JD wrote: > On 10/10/2010 01:22 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: >> You forgot to mention why top-posting should be avoided... >> >> -- >> Sam >> >> On 10 October 2010 21:01, Tim wrote: >>> On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 09:02 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote: I'd really appreciate it if anyone could explain why

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread James McKenzie
On 10/10/10 1:55 PM, JD wrote: >On 10/10/2010 01:48 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >> On 10/10/10 1:42 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: >>> On 10 October 2010 21:31, JDwrote: On 10/10/2010 01:22 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > You forgot to mention why top-posting should be avoided... >

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 01:48 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >On 10/10/10 1:42 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: >> On 10 October 2010 21:31, JD wrote: >>>On 10/10/2010 01:22 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: You forgot to mention why top-posting should be avoided... -- Sam On 10 October 2010 21

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread James McKenzie
On 10/10/10 1:42 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > On 10 October 2010 21:31, JD wrote: >> On 10/10/2010 01:22 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: >>> You forgot to mention why top-posting should be avoided... >>> >>> -- >>> Sam >>> >>> On 10 October 2010 21:01, Timwrote: On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 09:02 -0500, Ma

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/10/2010 04:22 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > You forgot to mention why top-posting should be avoided... > > -- > Sam > > On 10 October 2010 21:01, Tim wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 09:02 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote: >>> I'd really appreciate it if anyone could explain why these things are >>>

Re: ... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 10 October 2010 21:31, JD wrote: >  On 10/10/2010 01:22 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: >> You forgot to mention why top-posting should be avoided... >> >> -- >> Sam >> >> On 10 October 2010 21:01, Tim  wrote: >>> On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 09:02 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote: I'd really appreciate it if

... why top-posting should be avoided... (was Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?))

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 01:22 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > You forgot to mention why top-posting should be avoided... > > -- > Sam > > On 10 October 2010 21:01, Tim wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 09:02 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote: >>> I'd really appreciate it if anyone could explain why these things are >>>

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Sam Sharpe
You forgot to mention why top-posting should be avoided... -- Sam On 10 October 2010 21:01, Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 09:02 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote: >> I'd really appreciate it if anyone could explain why these things are >> happening and how I could configure the Zimbra Web Client

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 09:02 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote: > I'd really appreciate it if anyone could explain why these things are > happening and how I could configure the Zimbra Web Client to fix them. You probably can't fix the threading problems, those things sound more like faults, or badly de

Re: password change does not work: LDAP, sssd, nss or pam error?

2010-10-10 Thread Volker Potworowski
> > Is there another option I should enable? > > No, in sssd.conf all you need for enabling password changes is to have > chpass_provider=ldap and the ldap_uri set correctly. > > As seen in other replies to this thread, the problem is due to the ACIs > on your OpenLDAP server. The client is confi

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 14:21 -0400, David wrote: > On 10/10/2010 2:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 13:57 -0400, David wrote: > >> But you can set the mail server to send you a confirmation that your > >> message has been received when you post to this list. Actually all o

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread David
On 10/10/2010 2:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 13:57 -0400, David wrote: >> But you can set the mail server to send you a confirmation that your >> message has been received when you post to this list. Actually all of >> Fedora's lists have that setting. > > True, but th

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 13:57 -0400, David wrote: > But you can set the mail server to send you a confirmation that your > message has been received when you post to this list. Actually all of > Fedora's lists have that setting. True, but that's not the same as getting your own message back. Why wou

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread David
On 10/10/2010 1:48 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 10/10/10 12:57, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:43:38 -0400 >> Bob Goodwin wrote: >> >>> Not sure I understand this? With Thunderbird's Account set to BCC me >>> I get a copy every time. >> That's just the one you sent going directl

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/10/10 12:57, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:43:38 -0400 > Bob Goodwin wrote: > >> Not sure I understand this? With Thunderbird's Account set to BCC me >> I get a copy every time. > That's just the one you sent going directly back to you. If you > want to know that your mes

Re: Bluetooth headset as mobile microphone

2010-10-10 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
The purpose what I have thought to use this feature is for me as ambassador could be vital, if I have a visitor rush and I would like to an talk what is audible by everyone. So music is not an option, just talk - max. about one hour. I don't need skype - just a kind of mobile microphone for present

Re: password change does not work: LDAP, sssd, nss or pam error?

2010-10-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/09/2010 09:10 AM, Volker Potworowski wrote: > Hallo zusammen, > > am Samstag, 9. Oktober 2010 schrieb Gordon Messmer: >> On 10/06/2010 01:28 PM, Volker Potworowski wrote: >>> I have the directive >>> pam_password exop >>> in /etc/ldap.conf. Hope

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 09:57 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:43:38 -0400 > Bob Goodwin wrote: > >> Not sure I understand this? With Thunderbird's Account set to BCC me >> I get a copy every time. > That's just the one you sent going directly back to you. If you > want to know that you

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 12:43:38 -0400 Bob Goodwin wrote: > Not sure I understand this? With Thunderbird's Account set to BCC me > I get a copy every time. That's just the one you sent going directly back to you. If you want to know that your message actually made it to the list you need to get t

Re: Bluetooth headset as mobile microphone

2010-10-10 Thread JD
On 10/10/2010 04:31 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Sunday, October 10, 2010 08:49:51 Zoltan Hoppar wrote: >> I have an bluetooth headset witch is capable to bind with my mobile, >> but also possibly with my computer too. The question is the folllowing >> - is it possible to select my BT headset

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/10/10 11:10, Tom Horsley wrote: > Actually, even if you are using gmail only as a POP server, there > are still problems. If you send a message to the list, it > throws away the copy you get back from the list as a "duplicate". > I have to use two gmail accounts and subscribe to the list >

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Steven Stern
On 10/10/2010 10:58 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 12:12 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> The good things about gmail are: >> >> * it is free of charge, >> * it has a large storage capacity (cca. 7GB per user), >> * it is hardly blacklisted anywhere, >> * it allows you to us

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 12:12 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > The good things about gmail are: > > * it is free of charge, > * it has a large storage capacity (cca. 7GB per user), > * it is hardly blacklisted anywhere, > * it allows you to use a client of your choice. * It has excellent junk mail f

Re: rpm packages

2010-10-10 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote, at 10/11/2010 12:48 AM +9:00: > On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 15:22 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 17:53 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Before (fedora 10), the list of the installed packages was available >>> in /var/log/rpmpkgs. >>> this dir

Re: Connection wizard

2010-10-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 07:46 +1100, Noel Edyvane wrote: > Fedora 13 did not have a connection wizard. > > Will the connection wizard to added to Fedora 14? Are you talking about something different from NetworkManager? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or ch

Re: rpm packages

2010-10-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 15:22 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 17:53 +0100, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Before (fedora 10), the list of the installed packages was available > > in /var/log/rpmpkgs. > > this directory does not exists any more. > > Where can I get the li

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Tom Horsley
> Bottomline, gmail is great if you are not communicating with it via its own > web-interface. Otherwise, it's a disaster. Actually, even if you are using gmail only as a POP server, there are still problems. If you send a message to the list, it throws away the copy you get back from the list as

Re: Bluetooth headset as mobile microphone

2010-10-10 Thread Greg Bair
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 12:31 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > However, I was disappointed with the range of my wireless headset, it loses > signal just going over to another room... :-( And mike quality was far worse > than an ordinary regular wired headset. But I guess that depends on the > a

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Hiisi
2010/10/10 Marko Vojinovic : > On Sunday, October 10, 2010 08:26:26 Hiisi wrote: <--SNIP--> >> >> GMail is fabulous! It sorts all messages in chains that's very >> convenient for lists like this one. > > NO WAY !!! I beg to differ! > > It's far from fabulous, and hardly convenient for threaded list

Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?

2010-10-10 Thread Genes MailLists
On 10/10/2010 06:10 AM, Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 18:47 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: >> I have complained to Earthlink's technical support. Answer: Too bad. >> Our product is not designed for this use. > 1) Keep your earthlink account so you dont need to change things too much. 2)

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Matthew J. Roth
I've noticed that my mail client (Advanced Zimbra Web Client 6.0) seems to be breaking threads. My message appears in the proper thread within the client itself, but it appears as a new thread with the same subject as the existing thread when I search the archives

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-10-10 at 12:12 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Bottomline, gmail is great if you are not communicating with it via > its own web-interface. Otherwise, it's a disaster. I haven't found a web mail interface, yet, that isn't a *major* pain. I'm wondering if there is one. And if so, is i

Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?

2010-10-10 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 18:47 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > I have complained to Earthlink's technical support. Answer: Too bad. > Our product is not designed for this use. Not designed for any sort of use, then. Threading isn't just to do with mailing lists, it means everything to businesses wh

Bluetooth headset as mobile microphone

2010-10-10 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
I have an bluetooth headset witch is capable to bind with my mobile, but also possibly with my computer too. The question is the folllowing - is it possible to select my BT headset as input device, and redirect the output to amplifiers, or amplified speakers through Pulseaudio? How can I know that

Re: Broken mail readers (was Re: Properly wiping a hard drive ?)

2010-10-10 Thread Hiisi
2010/10/10 James McKenzie : >  On 10/9/10 7:38 PM, JD wrote: >>    On 10/09/2010 07:24 PM, James McKenzie wrote: <--SNIP--> > >> I know yahoo does not allow that on free accounts; >> i.e. they do not provide pop or imap server for your >> free account. >> But google does. So, why not get a free goo