Hello,
two days ago I updated my FC13 x86_64 from
Jul 28 08:52:35 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-gnome-0.8.1-1.fc13.x86_64
to
Aug 28 16:20:47 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-gnome-0.8.1-4.git20100817.fc13.x86_64
and now I'm noticing I'm not able to disable wireless any more.
My nm-applet process is active
gc
I'm trying to install Fedora 13 over VNC [1], with TigerVNC on Windows as the
VNC client. In the middle, my connection dropped; when reconnecting, TigerVNC
tells me "The server is already in use". Looking at the sources, it looks like
the XVnc thinks there's an active connection, and it looks li
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 23:35 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> My laptop has ceased hibernating.
> When I click on f=>Leave=>Hibernate
> the sleep-moon starts flashing
> and the small hyphen-like symbol on the top left comes on as usual,
> but as far as I can see nothing is written to disk.
>
> At th
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:29:51 +0900, Takehiko Abe wrote:
>>> I would advise Patrick to disable Selinux. I've made that decision
> >> long ago because it gives me more problems when enabled that I can
> >> possibly solve. IMHO the user interface is so bad that selinux is
> >> unuseable for an ord
2010/8/30 James McKenzie :
> Joshua C. wrote:
>> 2010/8/29 James McKenzie :
>>
>>> Joshua C. wrote:
>>>
Hi
I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available
packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start
wineconsole cmd:
err:win
>> I would advise Patrick to disable Selinux. I've made that decision
>> long ago because it gives me more problems when enabled that I can
>> possibly solve. IMHO the user interface is so bad that selinux is
>> unuseable for an ordinary enduser.
>
> So what is the purpose of SELinux ?
Theod
On 08/29/2010 07:12 PM, Sriranga(77yrsold) wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Sriranga(77yrsold)
> mailto:withblessi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On Dell optiplex-330 i have installed winXP sp3 on sata-0 and on
> sata-1 I had installed Fedora 13 - Even though grub installed -
>
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Sriranga(77yrsold) wrote:
> On Dell optiplex-330 i have installed winXP sp3 on sata-0 and on sata-1 I
> had installed Fedora 13 - Even though grub installed - unable to boot Fedora
> 13.
> i have installed Ubuntu 10-04 easily installed within windows itself using
On 29 August 2010 17:18, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Gordon Messmer wrote:
>
>> On 08/29/2010 08:27 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
>>>
>>> With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
>>> Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
>>> module Math::
Hi,
>> - How can I change the highlighting of text using the mouse in a
>> Terminal to automatically copy without having to right-click then
>> Copy, and paste automatically by clicking the right-mouse button,
>> similar to how putty works?
>
> Almost all X applications handle fast-paste, a simple
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 08/29/2010 08:27 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
module Math::GSL::Errno:
/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so: can
JD wrote:
>> My laptop has ceased hibernating.
>> When I click on f=>Leave=>Hibernate
>> the sleep-moon starts flashing
>> and the small hyphen-like symbol on the top left comes on as usual,
>> but as far as I can see nothing is written to disk.
>>
>> At this point it becomes impossible to communi
Joshua C. wrote:
> 2010/8/29 James McKenzie :
>
>> Joshua C. wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available
>>> packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start
>>> wineconsole cmd:
>>> err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't
On 08/29/2010 08:27 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
> Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
> module Math::GSL::Errno:
> /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so: cannot restore
> segment prot after reloc:
2010/8/29 James McKenzie :
> Joshua C. wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available
>> packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start
>> wineconsole cmd:
>> err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting
>>
>> Ins
On 08/29/2010 03:35 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> My laptop has ceased hibernating.
> When I click on f=>Leave=>Hibernate
> the sleep-moon starts flashing
> and the small hyphen-like symbol on the top left comes on as usual,
> but as far as I can see nothing is written to disk.
>
> At this point it
Joshua C. wrote:
> Hi
>
> I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available
> packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start
> wineconsole cmd:
> err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting
>
> Installing different fonts and "export L
kalinix wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 20:21 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
>
>> So if you want to be on a safe side, fill up the whole disk from /dev/random
>> over and over 20 times, and the original data will be completely gone. Even
>> for NSA & friends. :-)
>>
>> Best, :-)
>> Marko
>>
>>
My laptop has ceased hibernating.
When I click on f=>Leave=>Hibernate
the sleep-moon starts flashing
and the small hyphen-like symbol on the top left comes on as usual,
but as far as I can see nothing is written to disk.
At this point it becomes impossible to communicate with the machine.
Ctrl-Al
Hi
I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available
packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start
wineconsole cmd:
err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting
Installing different fonts and "export LANG= en_US.UTF-8" didn't help.
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, mike cloaked wrote:
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
On 29/08/10 18:42, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Ca
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
On 29/08/10 18:42, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errn
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
module
Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/
On 8/29/2010 3:14 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
> David gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I think that I understand the principal behind this. Disk space nor
>> bandwidth are not problems for me. I was thinking of others that might
>> have a bandwidth/byte counter problem.
>>
>> Explain to me just how download
On 8/29/2010 2:56 PM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 14:29 -0400, David wrote:
>> I think that I understand the principal behind this. Disk space nor
>> bandwidth are not problems for me. I was thinking of others that might
>> have a bandwidth/byte counter problem.
>>
>> Explain to
All probably true, but I dread the day they decide to make SELinux
mandatory, and take away the ability to disable it (in the name of
security).
On 08/29/2010 01:44 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
With many selinux issues with a bit of effort and help from a few
experts the issues can often be resolv
More on this issue:
http://lwn.net/Articles/400746/
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2010/8/29 Andre Robatino :
<--SNIP-->
>
> The performance of zsync vs. deltaisos varies from almost as good to much
> worse,
> depending on how many packages have changed between old and new ISOs. (For
> example, going from Fedora (N-1) to Fedora N Alpha TC1, zsync is almost
> useless,
> since al
On 08/29/2010 12:21 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Sunday, August 29, 2010 09:53:48 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
>>>Marko Vojinovic wrote:
Starting from the premise that every hard disk has in principle limited
capacity to store data, one can always fill it up completely, then
Should also mention that since the difference between zsync and deltaisos is
either downloading changed RPMs in full vs. using deltarpms on them, this means
that if both were provided, then people with either sufficiently fast
connections (meaning around 5 Mbits/s) or a very slow PC would be better
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 20:21 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> So if you want to be on a safe side, fill up the whole disk from /dev/random
> over and over 20 times, and the original data will be completely gone. Even
> for NSA & friends. :-)
>
> Best, :-)
> Marko
>
>
>
Actually, the 'standard
On Sunday, 29 August, 2010 @17:14 zulu, Erik P. Olsen scribed:
> I would advise Patrick to disable Selinux. I've made that decision
> long ago because it gives me more problems when enabled that I can
> possibly solve. IMHO the user interface is so bad that selinux is
> unuseable for an ordinary
On Sunday, August 29, 2010 09:53:48 Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
> > Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > > Starting from the premise that every hard disk has in principle limited
> > > capacity to store data, one can always fill it up completely, then
> > > rewrite it completely again. I see no way of the
David gmail.com> writes:
> I think that I understand the principal behind this. Disk space nor
> bandwidth are not problems for me. I was thinking of others that might
> have a bandwidth/byte counter problem.
>
> Explain to me just how downloading only a part of the new ISO, the
> changes, and t
On Sunday, August 29, 2010 09:16:28 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 07:46:49 +0100,
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > Starting from the premise that every hard disk has in principle limited
> > capacity to store data, one can always fill it up completely, then
> > rewrite it complete
Why weren't those attachments stripped (from the digest) by the list
processor?
All we have to do to send everyone (using the digest) an attachment via the
list is bzip it?
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On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Jake Peavy wrote:
...
>
>
> I have a feeling my array should perform much better than this and it's
> probably because I haven't taken the 4k sector size into account and I'm
> bleeding performance.
>
> Can anyone comment? If I need to take the 4k sector size int
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 21:56 +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> The Fedora project (or an interested user) creates the deltaiso.
To clarify, this is theoretical. The Fedora project is *not* creating
official deltaisos right now. However, any deltaiso should build into a
byte-for-byte copy of the new
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 14:29 -0400, David wrote:
> I think that I understand the principal behind this. Disk space nor
> bandwidth are not problems for me. I was thinking of others that might
> have a bandwidth/byte counter problem.
>
> Explain to me just how downloading only a part of the new ISO,
On 8/29/2010 12:39 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
> David gmail.com> writes:
>
>>
>> Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the older ISO and
>> the Newer ISO on a local system.
>>
>> Example. Fedora-14-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso was downloaded. A
>> Fedora-14-Alpha-2-x86_64-Live.iso is ava
On 08/29/2010 10:55 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> I have a gateway M-6750 laptop which sports a
> Marvell TopDog wifi chip. I have obtained the
> latest drivers for this chip, and used ndiswrapper
> to hook itself to the XP/Vista topdog driver, and
> it at first appears to be working... although
On Sunday, 29 August, 2010 @14:05 zulu, Greg Woods scribed:
> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
>
>> Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
>> when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
>
> For that, "gparted" is required. I don't know why Fedora
I have a gateway M-6750 laptop which sports a
Marvell TopDog wifi chip. I have obtained the
latest drivers for this chip, and used ndiswrapper
to hook itself to the XP/Vista topdog driver, and
it at first appears to be working... although there
are crash data appearing in the log files but other
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> On 29/08/10 18:42, Rex Dieter wrote:
>> Patrick Dupre wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
>>>
Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
>
> With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
> Can't
On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 20:09 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote:
> Secondly - create an empty text file - named 'alsa-base.conf'
> Third - For content insert this single line without quotes - ' options
> snd-hda-intel position_fix=1' - and save it.
> Fourth - place this file as root to /etc/modprobe.d
If y
On 29/08/10 18:42, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Patrick Dupre wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick Dupre wrote:
>>>
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
Hey all,
I'm going a little off my rocker here trying to understand how to best
configure a 3-drive RAID5 array using the new Western Digital 4k sector
drives.
I've got 3xWD15EARS (1.5T 4k sector advanced format drives).
If I was using the drive as-is, my understanding is I should create a
parti
On 08/29/2010 04:27 PM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 08/29/2010 04:09 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> On 08/29/2010 04:05 PM, Greg Woods wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
>>>
Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
when Windows is already installed
David gmail.com> writes:
>
> Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the older ISO and
> the Newer ISO on a local system.
>
> Example. Fedora-14-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso was downloaded. A
> Fedora-14-Alpha-2-x86_64-Live.iso is availible for download.
>
> Can a deltaiso be made with
Patrick Dupre wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
>
>> Patrick Dupre wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
>>> Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
>>> module
>>> Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/local/lib/per
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote:
Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
module
Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so:
cannot restore seg
Hi All,
I just installed Fedora 13 on my home system.
Previously I had Fedora 11 running there (and 13 on my laptop for quite some
time now).
My H/W configuration:
Shuttle, with Intel i915 chipset
Monitor: Dell P1110
Both F-11 and F-13 detect and use the intel x11 driver, and m
Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
>
> With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
> Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for
> module
> Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so:
> cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permis
Hello,
With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:
Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for module
Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so:
cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied at
/usr/lib/perl5/DynaL
On 8/29/2010 10:52 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 08/29/2010 10:10 AM, David wrote:
>
>>
>> What Windows release? Starting with XP Windows comes with a disk
>> partitioning tool included and installed by default.
>
>
>
> I think some may be missing the OP point.
I understood his point compl
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Hiisi wrote:
> 2010/8/29 Alan Cox :
> <--SNIP-->
>>
>> Modern drives support a secure erase/wipe feature (see hdparm). It's
>> probably the best option you get short of doing what probably would have
>> been smartest - encrypting it at install time ;)
>>
> <--SNIP-
On 08/29/2010 07:52 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 08/29/2010 10:10 AM, David wrote:
>
>> What Windows release? Starting with XP Windows comes with a disk
>> partitioning tool included and installed by default.
>
>
> I think some may be missing the OP point.
>
>They are probably asking if
On 08/29/2010 10:10 AM, David wrote:
>
> What Windows release? Starting with XP Windows comes with a disk
> partitioning tool included and installed by default.
I think some may be missing the OP point.
They are probably asking if anaconda can make it an easy option - if
the only partition
On 08/29/2010 04:09 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 08/29/2010 04:05 PM, Greg Woods wrote:
>> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
>>
>>> Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
>>> when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
>>
>> For that, "gparted" is
On 8/29/2010 10:05 AM, Greg Woods wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
>
>> Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
>> when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
>
> For that, "gparted" is required. I don't know why Fedora doesn't have
> this
On 08/29/2010 04:05 PM, Greg Woods wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
>
>> Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
>> when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
>
> For that, "gparted" is required. I don't know why Fedora doesn't have
> this
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 08:05 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
>
> > Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
> > when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
>
> For that, "gparted" is required. I don't know why Fedora doesn
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote:
> Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
> when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
For that, "gparted" is required. I don't know why Fedora doesn't have
this but Ubuntu does. To get Fedora 13 working on my new
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On 8/29/2010 8:05 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 06:51 -0400, David wrote:
>> On 8/29/2010 2:30 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 01:49 -0400, David wrote:
Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having bot
2010/8/29 Alan Cox :
<--SNIP-->
>
> Modern drives support a secure erase/wipe feature (see hdparm). It's
> probably the best option you get short of doing what probably would have
> been smartest - encrypting it at install time ;)
>
<--SNIP-->
>
> Alan
I always wondered would drive encryption sign
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 06:51 -0400, David wrote:
> On 8/29/2010 2:30 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 01:49 -0400, David wrote:
> >> Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the older ISO and
> >> the Newer ISO on a local system.
> >>
> >> Example. Fedora-14-Alpha-x
> In any case, if someone wants your data that bad, it is time to dig out
> the old sledgehammer and physically destroy the disk. Otherwise, scrub
> and other secure erasure programs should be sufficient.
Programs that just write over the data a few times may or may not help
but you never know.
Dear Zoltan Hoppar,
Thank you for your reply but it doesn't work :(
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Hi,
Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14
when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive?
To be honest I use Ubuntu 10.04 and it does this automatically
when installing(it shrinks Windows partition during install)
I installed F13 on a hard drive with Windows XP on it al
On 8/29/2010 2:30 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 01:49 -0400, David wrote:
>> Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the older ISO and
>> the Newer ISO on a local system.
>>
>> Example. Fedora-14-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso was downloaded. A
>> Fedora-14-Alpha-2-x86_64
On 29 Aug 2010 at 3:16, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Date sent: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 03:16:28 -0500
From: Bruno Wolff III
To: Marko Vojinovic
Subject:Re: Scrub free disk blocks
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On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 07:46:49 +0100,
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
>
> Starting from the premise that every hard disk has in principle limited
> capacity to store data, one can always fill it up completely, then rewrite it
> completely again. I see no way of the old data being recoverable, becaus
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 17:32:34 -0700,
James McKenzie wrote:
> One thing is that if you expect the police on your doorstop, you are
> screwed anyway. There is NO truly secure method, other than complete
> pulverization, to destroy disk data.
That depends on how good they are. Full disk enc
There is NO truly secure method, other than complete pulverization, to
destroy disk data.
Format the hd with DOS 3.1 or 5 that'll get rid of everything.
And if unsure after that format to ext2.. everything gone.
Roger
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Tom Horsley gmail.com> writes:
>
> So, I just noticed that /dev/shm is 4 gig on my system
> with 8 gig of main memory. Does fedora always just automatically
> take half the memory for /dev/shm (I've never seen it say
> more than 1% was in use, so I'm not sure why it thinks
> it needs half). Does
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