Unable to disable wireless with latest NetworkManager-gnome

2010-08-29 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
Hello, two days ago I updated my FC13 x86_64 from Jul 28 08:52:35 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-gnome-0.8.1-1.fc13.x86_64 to Aug 28 16:20:47 Updated: 1:NetworkManager-gnome-0.8.1-4.git20100817.fc13.x86_64 and now I'm noticing I'm not able to disable wireless any more. My nm-applet process is active gc

Fedora 13 installation over vnc - Xvnc refuses connection

2010-08-29 Thread Ambarish Sridharanarayanan
I'm trying to install Fedora 13 over VNC [1], with TigerVNC on Windows as the VNC client. In the middle, my connection dropped; when reconnecting, TigerVNC tells me "The server is already in use". Looking at the sources, it looks like the XVnc thinks there's an active connection, and it looks li

Re: Problem with hibernation

2010-08-29 Thread kalinix
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 23:35 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > My laptop has ceased hibernating. > When I click on f=>Leave=>Hibernate > the sleep-moon starts flashing > and the small hyphen-like symbol on the top left comes on as usual, > but as far as I can see nothing is written to disk. > > At th

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Mark Eggers
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:29:51 +0900, Takehiko Abe wrote: >>> I would advise Patrick to disable Selinux. I've made that decision > >> long ago because it gives me more problems when enabled that I can > >> possibly solve. IMHO the user interface is so bad that selinux is > >> unuseable for an ord

Re: err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting

2010-08-29 Thread Joshua C.
2010/8/30 James McKenzie : > Joshua C. wrote: >> 2010/8/29 James McKenzie : >> >>> Joshua C. wrote: >>> Hi I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start wineconsole cmd: err:win

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Takehiko Abe
>> I would advise Patrick to disable Selinux. I've made that decision >> long ago because it gives me more problems when enabled that I can >> possibly solve. IMHO the user interface is so bad that selinux is >> unuseable for an ordinary enduser. > > So what is the purpose of SELinux ? Theod

Re: Fedora 13-unable to boot from another SATA-1 ERR=22 displayed

2010-08-29 Thread JD
On 08/29/2010 07:12 PM, Sriranga(77yrsold) wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Sriranga(77yrsold) > mailto:withblessi...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On Dell optiplex-330 i have installed winXP sp3 on sata-0 and on > sata-1 I had installed Fedora 13 - Even though grub installed - >

Fedora 13-unable to boot from another SATA-1 ERR=22 displayed

2010-08-29 Thread Sriranga(77yrsold)
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Sriranga(77yrsold) wrote: > On Dell optiplex-330 i have installed winXP sp3 on sata-0 and on sata-1 I > had installed Fedora 13 - Even though grub installed - unable to boot Fedora > 13. > i have installed Ubuntu 10-04 easily installed within windows itself using

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread suvayu ali
On 29 August 2010 17:18, Patrick Dupre wrote: > On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Gordon Messmer wrote: > >> On 08/29/2010 08:27 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: >>> >>> With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message: >>> Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for >>> module Math::

Re: General desktop questions

2010-08-29 Thread Alex
Hi, >> - How can I change the highlighting of text using the mouse in a >> Terminal to automatically copy without having to right-click then >> Copy, and paste automatically by clicking the right-mouse button, >> similar to how putty works? > > Almost all X applications handle fast-paste, a simple

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Patrick Dupre
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 08/29/2010 08:27 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message: Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for module Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so: can

Re: Problem with hibernation

2010-08-29 Thread Timothy Murphy
JD wrote: >> My laptop has ceased hibernating. >> When I click on f=>Leave=>Hibernate >> the sleep-moon starts flashing >> and the small hyphen-like symbol on the top left comes on as usual, >> but as far as I can see nothing is written to disk. >> >> At this point it becomes impossible to communi

Re: err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting

2010-08-29 Thread James McKenzie
Joshua C. wrote: > 2010/8/29 James McKenzie : > >> Joshua C. wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available >>> packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start >>> wineconsole cmd: >>> err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/29/2010 08:27 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message: > Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for > module Math::GSL::Errno: > /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so: cannot restore > segment prot after reloc:

Re: err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting

2010-08-29 Thread Joshua C.
2010/8/29 James McKenzie : > Joshua C. wrote: >> Hi >> >> I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available >> packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start >> wineconsole cmd: >> err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting >> >> Ins

Re: Problem with hibernation

2010-08-29 Thread JD
On 08/29/2010 03:35 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > My laptop has ceased hibernating. > When I click on f=>Leave=>Hibernate > the sleep-moon starts flashing > and the small hyphen-like symbol on the top left comes on as usual, > but as far as I can see nothing is written to disk. > > At this point it

Re: err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting

2010-08-29 Thread James McKenzie
Joshua C. wrote: > Hi > > I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available > packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start > wineconsole cmd: > err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting > > Installing different fonts and "export L

Re: Scrub free disk blocks

2010-08-29 Thread James McKenzie
kalinix wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 20:21 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > >> So if you want to be on a safe side, fill up the whole disk from /dev/random >> over and over 20 times, and the original data will be completely gone. Even >> for NSA & friends. :-) >> >> Best, :-) >> Marko >> >>

Problem with hibernation

2010-08-29 Thread Timothy Murphy
My laptop has ceased hibernating. When I click on f=>Leave=>Hibernate the sleep-moon starts flashing and the small hyphen-like symbol on the top left comes on as usual, but as far as I can see nothing is written to disk. At this point it becomes impossible to communicate with the machine. Ctrl-Al

err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting

2010-08-29 Thread Joshua C.
Hi I needed to use wineconsole and after installing the latest available packages (1.3.1-1) I got the following message when trying to start wineconsole cmd: err:wineconsole:WINECON_Fatal Couldn't find a decent font, aborting Installing different fonts and "export LANG= en_US.UTF-8" didn't help.

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Patrick Dupre
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, mike cloaked wrote: On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 29/08/10 18:42, Rex Dieter wrote: Patrick Dupre wrote: On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote: Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message:    Ca

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Patrick Dupre
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 29/08/10 18:42, Rex Dieter wrote: Patrick Dupre wrote: On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote: Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message: Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errn

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Patrick Dupre
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote: Patrick Dupre wrote: On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote: Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message: Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for module Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/

Re: DeltaISOs

2010-08-29 Thread David
On 8/29/2010 3:14 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > David gmail.com> writes: > >> I think that I understand the principal behind this. Disk space nor >> bandwidth are not problems for me. I was thinking of others that might >> have a bandwidth/byte counter problem. >> >> Explain to me just how download

Re: DeltaISOs

2010-08-29 Thread David
On 8/29/2010 2:56 PM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 14:29 -0400, David wrote: >> I think that I understand the principal behind this. Disk space nor >> bandwidth are not problems for me. I was thinking of others that might >> have a bandwidth/byte counter problem. >> >> Explain to

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Chris Kloiber
All probably true, but I dread the day they decide to make SELinux mandatory, and take away the ability to disable it (in the name of security). On 08/29/2010 01:44 PM, mike cloaked wrote: With many selinux issues with a bit of effort and help from a few experts the issues can often be resolv

Re: Unpatched major kernel

2010-08-29 Thread Marcel Rieux
More on this issue: http://lwn.net/Articles/400746/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

Re: DeltaISOs

2010-08-29 Thread Hiisi
2010/8/29 Andre Robatino : <--SNIP--> > > The performance of zsync vs. deltaisos varies from almost as good to much > worse, > depending on how many packages have changed between old and new ISOs. (For > example, going from Fedora (N-1) to Fedora N Alpha TC1, zsync is almost > useless, > since al

Re: Scrub free disk blocks

2010-08-29 Thread JD
On 08/29/2010 12:21 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Sunday, August 29, 2010 09:53:48 Michael D. Setzer II wrote: >>>Marko Vojinovic wrote: Starting from the premise that every hard disk has in principle limited capacity to store data, one can always fill it up completely, then

Re: DeltaISOs

2010-08-29 Thread Andre Robatino
Should also mention that since the difference between zsync and deltaisos is either downloading changed RPMs in full vs. using deltarpms on them, this means that if both were provided, then people with either sufficiently fast connections (meaning around 5 Mbits/s) or a very slow PC would be better

Re: Scrub free disk blocks

2010-08-29 Thread kalinix
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 20:21 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > So if you want to be on a safe side, fill up the whole disk from /dev/random > over and over 20 times, and the original data will be completely gone. Even > for NSA & friends. :-) > > Best, :-) > Marko > > > Actually, the 'standard

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Darr
On Sunday, 29 August, 2010 @17:14 zulu, Erik P. Olsen scribed: > I would advise Patrick to disable Selinux. I've made that decision > long ago because it gives me more problems when enabled that I can > possibly solve. IMHO the user interface is so bad that selinux is > unuseable for an ordinary

Re: Scrub free disk blocks

2010-08-29 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday, August 29, 2010 09:53:48 Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > Starting from the premise that every hard disk has in principle limited > > > capacity to store data, one can always fill it up completely, then > > > rewrite it completely again. I see no way of the

Re: DeltaISOs

2010-08-29 Thread Andre Robatino
David gmail.com> writes: > I think that I understand the principal behind this. Disk space nor > bandwidth are not problems for me. I was thinking of others that might > have a bandwidth/byte counter problem. > > Explain to me just how downloading only a part of the new ISO, the > changes, and t

Re: Scrub free disk blocks

2010-08-29 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday, August 29, 2010 09:16:28 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 07:46:49 +0100, > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Starting from the premise that every hard disk has in principle limited > > capacity to store data, one can always fill it up completely, then > > rewrite it complete

Re: Fedora 13 & screen resolution

2010-08-29 Thread Darr
Why weren't those attachments stripped (from the digest) by the list processor? All we have to do to send everyone (using the digest) an attachment via the list is bzip it? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedorap

Re: Advanced Format drives + RAID5 + LVM + EXT4 = migraine

2010-08-29 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Jake Peavy wrote: ... > > > I have a feeling my array should perform much better than this and it's > probably because I haven't taken the 4k sector size into account and I'm > bleeding performance. > > Can anyone comment?  If I need to take the 4k sector size int

Re: DeltaISOs

2010-08-29 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 21:56 +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > The Fedora project (or an interested user) creates the deltaiso. To clarify, this is theoretical. The Fedora project is *not* creating official deltaisos right now. However, any deltaiso should build into a byte-for-byte copy of the new

Re: DeltaISOs

2010-08-29 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 14:29 -0400, David wrote: > I think that I understand the principal behind this. Disk space nor > bandwidth are not problems for me. I was thinking of others that might > have a bandwidth/byte counter problem. > > Explain to me just how downloading only a part of the new ISO,

Re: DeltaISOs

2010-08-29 Thread David
On 8/29/2010 12:39 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > David gmail.com> writes: > >> >> Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the older ISO and >> the Newer ISO on a local system. >> >> Example. Fedora-14-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso was downloaded. A >> Fedora-14-Alpha-2-x86_64-Live.iso is ava

Re: F12/13: Ndiswrapper, topdog Wifi, Thunderbird & network degradation...

2010-08-29 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 08/29/2010 10:55 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > I have a gateway M-6750 laptop which sports a > Marvell TopDog wifi chip. I have obtained the > latest drivers for this chip, and used ndiswrapper > to hook itself to the XP/Vista topdog driver, and > it at first appears to be working... although

Re: Easier Dual Boot Install For Fedora 14?

2010-08-29 Thread Darr
On Sunday, 29 August, 2010 @14:05 zulu, Greg Woods scribed: > On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote: > >> Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14 >> when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive? > > For that, "gparted" is required. I don't know why Fedora

F12/13: Ndiswrapper, topdog Wifi, Thunderbird & network degradation...

2010-08-29 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
I have a gateway M-6750 laptop which sports a Marvell TopDog wifi chip. I have obtained the latest drivers for this chip, and used ndiswrapper to hook itself to the XP/Vista topdog driver, and it at first appears to be working... although there are crash data appearing in the log files but other

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote: > On 29/08/10 18:42, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Patrick Dupre wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote: >>> Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message: >    Can't

Re: HP 6930p: mute button doesn't work properly

2010-08-29 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 20:09 +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > Secondly - create an empty text file - named 'alsa-base.conf' > Third - For content insert this single line without quotes - ' options > snd-hda-intel position_fix=1' - and save it. > Fourth - place this file as root to /etc/modprobe.d If y

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 29/08/10 18:42, Rex Dieter wrote: > Patrick Dupre wrote: > >> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote: >> >>> Patrick Dupre wrote: >>> Hello, With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message: Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for

Advanced Format drives + RAID5 + LVM + EXT4 = migraine

2010-08-29 Thread Jake Peavy
Hey all, I'm going a little off my rocker here trying to understand how to best configure a 3-drive RAID5 array using the new Western Digital 4k sector drives. I've got 3xWD15EARS (1.5T 4k sector advanced format drives). If I was using the drive as-is, my understanding is I should create a parti

Re: Easier Dual Boot Install For Fedora 14?

2010-08-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/29/2010 04:27 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 08/29/2010 04:09 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 08/29/2010 04:05 PM, Greg Woods wrote: >>> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote: >>> Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14 when Windows is already installed

Re: DeltaISOs

2010-08-29 Thread Andre Robatino
David gmail.com> writes: > > Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the older ISO and > the Newer ISO on a local system. > > Example. Fedora-14-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso was downloaded. A > Fedora-14-Alpha-2-x86_64-Live.iso is availible for download. > > Can a deltaiso be made with

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Rex Dieter
Patrick Dupre wrote: > On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Patrick Dupre wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message: >>> Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for >>> module >>> Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/local/lib/per

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Patrick Dupre
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Rex Dieter wrote: Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message: Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for module Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so: cannot restore seg

Fedora 13 & screen resolution

2010-08-29 Thread Gregory Hosler
Hi All, I just installed Fedora 13 on my home system. Previously I had Fedora 11 running there (and 13 on my laptop for quite some time now). My H/W configuration: Shuttle, with Intel i915 chipset Monitor: Dell P1110 Both F-11 and F-13 detect and use the intel x11 driver, and m

Re: SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Rex Dieter
Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message: > Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for > module > Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so: > cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permis

SELinux

2010-08-29 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, With fedora 13, when I use Math:GSL, I get an error message: Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so' for module Math::GSL::Errno: /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Math/GSL/Errno/Errno.so: cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied at /usr/lib/perl5/DynaL

Re: Easier Dual Boot Install For Fedora 14?

2010-08-29 Thread David
On 8/29/2010 10:52 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 08/29/2010 10:10 AM, David wrote: > >> >> What Windows release? Starting with XP Windows comes with a disk >> partitioning tool included and installed by default. > > > > I think some may be missing the OP point. I understood his point compl

Re: Scrub free disk blocks

2010-08-29 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Hiisi wrote: > 2010/8/29 Alan Cox : > <--SNIP--> >> >> Modern drives support a secure erase/wipe feature (see hdparm). It's >> probably the best option you get short of doing what probably would have >> been smartest - encrypting it at install time ;) >> > <--SNIP-

Re: Easier Dual Boot Install For Fedora 14?

2010-08-29 Thread JD
On 08/29/2010 07:52 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 08/29/2010 10:10 AM, David wrote: > >> What Windows release? Starting with XP Windows comes with a disk >> partitioning tool included and installed by default. > > > I think some may be missing the OP point. > >They are probably asking if

Re: Easier Dual Boot Install For Fedora 14?

2010-08-29 Thread Genes MailLists
On 08/29/2010 10:10 AM, David wrote: > > What Windows release? Starting with XP Windows comes with a disk > partitioning tool included and installed by default. I think some may be missing the OP point. They are probably asking if anaconda can make it an easy option - if the only partition

Re: Easier Dual Boot Install For Fedora 14?

2010-08-29 Thread Joachim Backes
On 08/29/2010 04:09 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 08/29/2010 04:05 PM, Greg Woods wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote: >> >>> Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14 >>> when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive? >> >> For that, "gparted" is

Re: Easier Dual Boot Install For Fedora 14?

2010-08-29 Thread David
On 8/29/2010 10:05 AM, Greg Woods wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote: > >> Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14 >> when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive? > > For that, "gparted" is required. I don't know why Fedora doesn't have > this

Re: Easier Dual Boot Install For Fedora 14?

2010-08-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/29/2010 04:05 PM, Greg Woods wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote: > >> Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14 >> when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive? > > For that, "gparted" is required. I don't know why Fedora doesn't have > this

Re: Easier Dual Boot Install For Fedora 14?

2010-08-29 Thread Chris Tyler
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 08:05 -0600, Greg Woods wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote: > > > Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14 > > when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive? > > For that, "gparted" is required. I don't know why Fedora doesn

Re: Easier Dual Boot Install For Fedora 14?

2010-08-29 Thread Greg Woods
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 07:21 -0400, Jesse Palser wrote: > Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14 > when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive? For that, "gparted" is required. I don't know why Fedora doesn't have this but Ubuntu does. To get Fedora 13 working on my new

Re: DeltaISOs

2010-08-29 Thread David
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/29/2010 8:05 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 06:51 -0400, David wrote: >> On 8/29/2010 2:30 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: >>> On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 01:49 -0400, David wrote: Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having bot

Re: Scrub free disk blocks

2010-08-29 Thread Hiisi
2010/8/29 Alan Cox : <--SNIP--> > > Modern drives support a secure erase/wipe feature (see hdparm). It's > probably the best option you get short of doing what probably would have > been smartest - encrypting it at install time ;) > <--SNIP--> > > Alan I always wondered would drive encryption sign

Re: DeltaISOs

2010-08-29 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 06:51 -0400, David wrote: > On 8/29/2010 2:30 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 01:49 -0400, David wrote: > >> Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the older ISO and > >> the Newer ISO on a local system. > >> > >> Example. Fedora-14-Alpha-x

Re: Scrub free disk blocks

2010-08-29 Thread Alan Cox
> In any case, if someone wants your data that bad, it is time to dig out > the old sledgehammer and physically destroy the disk. Otherwise, scrub > and other secure erasure programs should be sufficient. Programs that just write over the data a few times may or may not help but you never know.

Re: HP 6930p: mute button doesn't work properly

2010-08-29 Thread Hoang Le
Dear Zoltan Hoppar, Thank you for your reply but it doesn't work :( -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines

Easier Dual Boot Install For Fedora 14?

2010-08-29 Thread Jesse Palser
Hi, Can the dev team make it easier to install Fedora 14 when Windows is already installed on the same hard drive? To be honest I use Ubuntu 10.04 and it does this automatically when installing(it shrinks Windows partition during install) I installed F13 on a hard drive with Windows XP on it al

Re: DeltaISOs

2010-08-29 Thread David
On 8/29/2010 2:30 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 01:49 -0400, David wrote: >> Is it possible to make a deltaiso without having both the older ISO and >> the Newer ISO on a local system. >> >> Example. Fedora-14-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso was downloaded. A >> Fedora-14-Alpha-2-x86_64

Re: Scrub free disk blocks

2010-08-29 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 29 Aug 2010 at 3:16, Bruno Wolff III wrote: Date sent: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 03:16:28 -0500 From: Bruno Wolff III To: Marko Vojinovic Subject:Re: Scrub free disk blocks Copies to: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Send rep

Re: Scrub free disk blocks

2010-08-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 07:46:49 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Starting from the premise that every hard disk has in principle limited > capacity to store data, one can always fill it up completely, then rewrite it > completely again. I see no way of the old data being recoverable, becaus

Re: Scrub free disk blocks

2010-08-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 17:32:34 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: > One thing is that if you expect the police on your doorstop, you are > screwed anyway. There is NO truly secure method, other than complete > pulverization, to destroy disk data. That depends on how good they are. Full disk enc

Re: Scrub free disk blocks

2010-08-29 Thread Roger
There is NO truly secure method, other than complete pulverization, to destroy disk data. Format the hd with DOS 3.1 or 5 that'll get rid of everything. And if unsure after that format to ext2.. everything gone. Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change s

Re: /dev/shm size?

2010-08-29 Thread JB
Tom Horsley gmail.com> writes: > > So, I just noticed that /dev/shm is 4 gig on my system > with 8 gig of main memory. Does fedora always just automatically > take half the memory for /dev/shm (I've never seen it say > more than 1% was in use, so I'm not sure why it thinks > it needs half). Does