Re: [F13] thunderbird-3.1.1-1 won't restart

2010-07-22 Thread Joachim Backes
On 07/23/10 08:25, g wrote: Hi Geleem, many thanks for your great help: Starting thunderbird in safe mode and then disabling all extensions, then enabling the extensions step for step did the trick. Kind regards Joachim Backes Joachim Backes wrote: having big problems with the new thund

Firewall not getting displayed

2010-07-22 Thread JB
Parshwa Murdia gmail.com> writes: > > I simply enabled the basic firewall. What exactly I did:- > > http://sites.google.com/site/indiadoor/firewall-enabled > ... > and then when I click to see the Firewall (from System -> > Administration -> Firewall and then providing the root credentials), >

Re: poll() returns even if there is data.

2010-07-22 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/22/2010 11:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/23/2010 02:23 PM, JB wrote: > > If, however, you can't resist answering queries that you find "out of > line" I find it best to visualize standing next to the person asking the > question and that person is 6ft tall, 220 lbs, with a scar on the

Re: Thunderbird/Lightning won't send meeting invites any more

2010-07-22 Thread g
Michael Miles wrote: > You know this kind of answer is not cool. this is true. but it is a cold hard fact. you have a right to have such an opinion, just as i have a right to believe that a fedora user would have a better chance of getting help from a list that is dedicate to mozilla software t

Re: poll() returns even if there is data.

2010-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/23/2010 02:23 PM, JB wrote: > you are repeatedly posting to a wrong group - this is Fedora. > Please find UNIX or Linux, system or application programming, your language > (C, C++, etc) group. > Otherwise you are making fool of yourself. Why would you say something like that to anyone? gcc

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > > Correct but for the new users (like me and the beginners) if they have > somehow installed the fedora 11 would it be a good idea to suddenly > upgrade to fedora 13 and that also from the terminal without knowing > the complete method that

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-22 Thread JD
On 07/22/2010 10:40 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > Almost forgot. Have a look at: > http://www.vmware.com/solutions/business-critical-apps/exchange/ Thank you. I will take a look. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://adm

Firewall not getting displayed

2010-07-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
I simply enabled the basic firewall. What exactly I did:- http://sites.google.com/site/indiadoor/firewall-enabled (This site was created by my friend, he simple wrote what I did by searching from here and there and without knowledge, so that i could recall what i did, if at any stage in the futur

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > Fedora releases every 6 months, and supports a release for 1 month > past the release of n+1[1].  This means that Fedora 13, which was > released May 25 will be supported until, roughly, June of 2011(*). > This is 13 months and a far c

Re: [F13] thunderbird-3.1.1-1 won't restart

2010-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
Hi, > having big problems with the new thunderbird-3.1.1-1: After exiting a > running thunderbird-3.1.1-1 and starting it again, nothing happens: No > error message or something similar. Logging out or restart does not > help. I had to downgrade thunderbird for getting it to run again. > > Somebo

Re: [F13] thunderbird-3.1.1-1 won't restart

2010-07-22 Thread g
Joachim Backes wrote: > having big problems with the new thunderbird-3.1.1-1: After exiting a > running thunderbird-3.1.1-1 and starting it again, nothing happens: No > error message or something similar. Logging out or restart does not > help. I had to downgrade thunderbird for getting it to run

poll() returns even if there is data.

2010-07-22 Thread JB
Mansuri, Wasim (NSN - IN/Bangalore nsn.com> writes: > > > I am trying to read some file using open and read system calls. > ... Hi, you are repeatedly posting to a wrong group - this is Fedora. Please find UNIX or Linux, system or application programming, your language (C, C++, etc) group. Oth

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Les wrote: > > Fedora is unique only because it rotates software frequently, about > every 18 months for the release cycle with about 36 months support.  So > if you go to Fedora 13 today, it will be fully supported for another > year roughly before Fedora 14 comes

Gnome Setting Daemon Crashing - Fix?

2010-07-22 Thread KC8LDO
I've looked around and found a bunch of reports about the gnome-settings-daemon crashing at login. Has a solution been found yet? It seems to work OK on my 32 and 64 bit Fedora-13 systems, but on the 32 and 64 bit Fedora-11 systems it doesn't. Regard; Leland C. Scott KC8LDO "We are not anti-

Re: Open Letter (Plea for Medical/Help Assistance) to World Leaders

2010-07-22 Thread Thomas Taylor
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:19:38 -0700 Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi list admins, > > Could this person (Teo En Ming) be blocked? I think his email address > has been compromised and I have seen spam from this address on various > other lists too, Scientific Linux and GCC to mention a few. > He hit the

Re: Small query on distribution lists

2010-07-22 Thread Tim
Timothy Murphy wrote: >> I've recently set up a couple of distribution lists using >> KMail/KAddressBook. This works quite well; but I wondered if there is any >> way of making the To line give the name of the list rather than the people >> on the list, as for example Mailman does? Write it to the

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-22 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 23:31 -0600, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 22:14 -0700, JD wrote: > > > I've personally deployed Tier 1 databases - Oracle RAC in all of its > > > glory - on cloud infrastructure. Our RAC nodes outperformed their > > > physical counterparts in benchma

Re: [FALSE ALARM] Re: yum update and f12

2010-07-22 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 7/21/2010 11:11 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > The first time you would run "yum update" on a machine that has been > offline for a long time, it would notice that the timestamp file > /var/cache/yum/i386/12/updates/cachecookie is a lot older than 1.5 hours, > and hence it would connect to the

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-22 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 22:14 -0700, JD wrote: > On 07/22/2010 10:05 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > > > >> Reminds me of GFS. Though it is certainly interesting technology, > >> no one has come out with models that show it's performance > >> benchmarks exceeding the performance of local storage

[F13] thunderbird-3.1.1-1 won't restart

2010-07-22 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi, having big problems with the new thunderbird-3.1.1-1: After exiting a running thunderbird-3.1.1-1 and starting it again, nothing happens: No error message or something similar. Logging out or restart does not help. I had to downgrade thunderbird for getting it to run again. Somebody has

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-22 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 18:58 -0700, Les wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 09:25 +0200, birger wrote: > > But if it works and it means > > we (the back-end admins) can continue to override the users wishes and > > provide what they need instead of what they ask for, I'm all for it > > (like when DBA's

Re: Thunderbird/Lightning won't send meeting invites any more

2010-07-22 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 07/22/2010 10:42 PM, Julian C. Dunn wrote: > Somewhere along the way, Thunderbird's calendar has stopped being able > to send meeting invites to people anymore. The "Notify attendees" > checkbox is greyed out on new appointments. I'm not seeing this behavior on the just recently updated f12 thu

Re: Thunderbird/Lightning won't send meeting invites any more

2010-07-22 Thread Michael Miles
On 07/22/2010 08:50 PM, g wrote: > Julian C. Dunn wrote: > >> Somewhere along the way, Thunderbird's calendar has stopped being able >> to send meeting invites to people anymore. The "Notify attendees" >> checkbox is greyed out on new appointments. >> >> Any idea how I might go about fixing/dia

Re: bind() to /dev/log failed

2010-07-22 Thread Mansuri, Wasim (NSN - IN/Bangalore)
I am working on some network server which has to monitor the os events and report it to some GUI. For that I want to read the /dev/log and process it and report it to the GUI. So here my aim is not to write but I want to read the messages coming to /dev/log. I made some changes in the code w

Fedora users on powerpc

2010-07-22 Thread JD
Is there another list that is dedicated to fedora users on powerpc? I had asked a question here about booting F12 on powerbook G4, and no one answered. I assume there are no fedora/powerpc users on this list. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscript

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-22 Thread JD
On 07/22/2010 10:05 PM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > >> Reminds me of GFS. Though it is certainly interesting technology, >> no one has come out with models that show it's performance >> benchmarks exceeding the performance of local storage. >> Does anyone know of large and mission critical d

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-22 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 19:14 -0700, JD wrote: > On 07/22/2010 06:58 PM, Les wrote: > > > Reminds me of GFS. Though it is certainly interesting technology, > no one has come out with models that show it's performance > benchmarks exceeding the performance of local storage. > Does anyone know of larg

poll() returns even if there is data.

2010-07-22 Thread Mansuri, Wasim (NSN - IN/Bangalore)
I am trying to read some file using open and read system calls. Here in my code I am doing open than poll and if poll returns with the event POLLIN than read. Even if poll returns with the event POLLIN read returns 0, that means no data. My question here is, Am I using poll() proper

Re: Thunderbird/Lightning won't send meeting invites any more

2010-07-22 Thread g
Julian C. Dunn wrote: > Somewhere along the way, Thunderbird's calendar has stopped being able > to send meeting invites to people anymore. The "Notify attendees" > checkbox is greyed out on new appointments. > > Any idea how I might go about fixing/diagnosing this problem? because you are using;

Thunderbird/Lightning won't send meeting invites any more

2010-07-22 Thread Julian C. Dunn
Somewhere along the way, Thunderbird's calendar has stopped being able to send meeting invites to people anymore. The "Notify attendees" checkbox is greyed out on new appointments. Any idea how I might go about fixing/diagnosing this problem? I'm on Fedora 13 with Thunderbird as follows: Mozilla

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Les wrote: > The advantage of a gui system is that most of what your family already > knows from windows works very nearly identically.  The bits that don't > they can google or ask you and you can google. > > For example, the setup of the system has several good

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-22 Thread JD
On 07/22/2010 06:58 PM, Les wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 09:25 +0200, birger wrote: >> But if it works and it means >> we (the back-end admins) can continue to override the users wishes and >> provide what they need instead of what they ask for, I'm all for it >> (like when DBA's come with ve

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-22 Thread Les
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 09:25 +0200, birger wrote: > But if it works and it means > we (the back-end admins) can continue to override the users wishes and > provide what they need instead of what they ask for, I'm all for it > (like when DBA's come with very specific orders detailing raid type and >

Re: Small query on distribution lists

2010-07-22 Thread g
Timothy Murphy wrote: > I've recently set up a couple of distribution lists using > KMail/KAddressBook. This works quite well; but I wondered if there is any > way of making the To line give the name of the list rather than the people > on the list, as for example Mailman does? how what appears in

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Les
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 05:39 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > Fedora is certainly usable by home users. My wife and children use > > Fedora and I have had to provide them no support over the past several > > releases, other than upgradin

Firewall not getting displayed

2010-07-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
I simply enabled the basic firewall. What exactly I did:- http://sites.google.com/site/indiadoor/firewall-enabled and then when I click to see the Firewall (from System -> Administration -> Firewall and then providing the root credentials), the only thing which appears is a box and above which is

Re: HP-Deskjet F4140 Printer setup

2010-07-22 Thread binarynut
On 07/22/2010 06:32 PM, nat...@nathanewilliams.com wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:53:30 -0400, binary...@comcast.net wrote: > >> FC13-i686 >> HP-Deskjet F4140 Printer setup all-in-one printer >> >> >> Using hp-setup can't get printer to setup properly, it will take paper >> but won't print. >>

Re: Status of ESATA in F13 ?

2010-07-22 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 07/22/2010 08:37:00 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I am wondering how ESATA devices are supposed to work in F13 these > days. > > Does F13 support hot plugging of ESATA devices ? > Are they only recognized at boot time ? > Are they supported at all ? No problem at all. One caution - I don't run naut

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread g
Parshwa Murdia wrote: >> you can also have a look at links to right of page, 'Sponsored Links'. >> also, note my sig. ;) > > Really? which? to right or sig? > Thanks. very welcome. > > Regards, > Parshwa Murdia -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who need

Re: VERY IMPORTANT

2010-07-22 Thread g
Fox on the run wrote: > And thanks g - I did notice that it was Lid (at first thought it was > Lld) but when I drafted my message, went with my first impression of > what I thought it was (I guess it's true, first impressions are > lasting impressions). And thanks for the wikipedia link on the t

Re: HP-Deskjet F4140 Printer setup

2010-07-22 Thread JD
On 07/22/2010 02:53 PM, binary...@comcast.net wrote: > FC13-i686 > HP-Deskjet F4140 Printer setup all-in-one printer > > > Using hp-setup can't get printer to setup properly, it will take paper > but won't print. > HP Deskjet f4100 Series, hpcups 3.10.5 > Have you tried CLick System -> Administr

Re: HP-Deskjet F4140 Printer setup

2010-07-22 Thread nathan
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:53:30 -0400, binary...@comcast.net wrote: > FC13-i686 > HP-Deskjet F4140 Printer setup all-in-one printer > > > Using hp-setup can't get printer to setup properly, it will take paper > but won't print. > HP Deskjet f4100 Series, hpcups 3.10.5 > > rpms installed > > hplip

HP-Deskjet F4140 Printer setup

2010-07-22 Thread binarynut
FC13-i686 HP-Deskjet F4140 Printer setup all-in-one printer Using hp-setup can't get printer to setup properly, it will take paper but won't print. HP Deskjet f4100 Series, hpcups 3.10.5 rpms installed hplip-common hplip hpijs hplip-gui Jul 22 17:28:23 inspiron kernel: usb 3-1: USB disconn

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-22 Thread David Liguori
On 7/20/2010 3:23 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 20/07/10 20:18, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > >> On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 19:45:26 Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >>> What's a YAA? >>> >> YAA stands for "Yet Another Acronym". ;-) >> >> > But it's also a TLA > > Three letter acro

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-22 Thread David Liguori
On 7/20/2010 3:23 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 20/07/10 20:18, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > >> On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 19:45:26 Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >>> What's a YAA? >>> >> YAA stands for "Yet Another Acronym". ;-) >> >> > But it's also a TLA > > > Three Letter Ac

Sound issue in HP G61 w/ F13

2010-07-22 Thread Joseph L. Casale
It seems under System Admin in KDE, I only see the HDMI sound as an option, but this laptop has built in speakers an Intel HAD device: 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383] 01:05.1 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 Audio Device [Rade

Re: Missing option in evolution

2010-07-22 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 11:23 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 08:36 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > In evolution under Folder there was an option to chose all messages in > > the folder. It seems to have disappeared in F13. > > > > Can it be found somewhere else? > > Edit-

Re: X-chat question

2010-07-22 Thread Jonathan Beatty
Why can't you just use /server or /connect (one of them doesn't work in Xchat, but I don't remember which)? On 7/22/10, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Steve Blackwell wrote: >>> >>> XChat>Network List>Add >> No such option. At least not in v0.26.1 (F12) > > In xchat

Re: [OT] javascript guru out there?

2010-07-22 Thread Mike Park
Hi Mike, > I've been developing a javascript application that works everywhere > except on Google's Chrome browser and have tracked it down to a "for > each" statement. You don't need the 'each' keyword in the 'for' statement. And if you're looking to iterate through an array, you're much better

Re: [OT] javascript guru out there?

2010-07-22 Thread Mike Wright
Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 07/22/2010 10:50 AM, Mike Wright wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Sorry to post this here but of all the lists/forums I'm on this one >> seems to have the most diverse talent pool. >> >> I've been developing a javascript application that works everywhere >> except on Google's

gnome-display-properties, RandR, apply to all users / logon screen?

2010-07-22 Thread Alexander List
Hi, I wonder if it's possible to apply the monitor settings done in gnome-display-properties to the login screen resp. all users on a workstation... My problem: I have an Nvidia Quadro FX 1700, use the nouveau driver and would like to rotate the two Dell 24" screens on my desk. X11 correctly

Re: [OT] javascript guru out there?

2010-07-22 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 07/22/2010 10:50 AM, Mike Wright wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry to post this here but of all the lists/forums I'm on this one > seems to have the most diverse talent pool. > > I've been developing a javascript application that works everywhere > except on Google's Chrome browser and have tracked i

Re: quicktime video work for you?

2010-07-22 Thread Neal Becker
Thanks much for the help! That was the clue I needed to get firefox going. I needed gecko-mediaplayer. I still haven't figured out google-chrome-unstable though. google-chrome-unstable-6.0.472.0-53024.x86_64 It seems to find plugins that are in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins. But even though it

[OT] javascript guru out there?

2010-07-22 Thread Mike Wright
Hi all, Sorry to post this here but of all the lists/forums I'm on this one seems to have the most diverse talent pool. I've been developing a javascript application that works everywhere except on Google's Chrome browser and have tracked it down to a "for each" statement. To verify that's what

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:00 PM, jack craig wrote: > I am sure you will find this list, (and i am sure you will discover > others), to be Gold on your quest! ;-) > > May the source be with you, ... Yeah, sure, thanks. Regards, Parshwa Murdia -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread jack craig
On 07/22/2010 09:13 AM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > > > >> unlike M$, its largely free from virus, free from user lockin (ie, >> proprietary code only), and totally free of $$$. >> >> even my wife uses my home Linux for her internet access! :-) >> >> the only thing is, you get out of it what you

Re: bind() to /dev/log failed

2010-07-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/21/2010 11:29 PM, Mansuri, Wasim (NSN - IN/Bangalore) wrote: > > > Hello All, > > I want to listen to /dev/log. For that I am using the following code. > > Please let me know whats the issue in the following code snip. Code I am > running with root user. > > Thanks, wasim > > if ((sockfd = s

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Tim wrote: > Books on general Linux and Unix principles can be very useful, > especially if you're completely unfamiliar with their concepts.  And you > can learn things that transfer across many different distros.  If you > intend to make any sort of living out o

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:08 PM, jack craig wrote: > you may rest assured that the fedora line of software will support your > going as far and wide as you like. > that is you may scratch the surface, use it like an expert or even > develop your own code. That's really cool. > unlike M$, its

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
> you can also have a look at links to right of page, 'Sponsored Links'. > also, note my sig. ;) Really? > to learn it, you are going to have to read. very correct. > no way around it, other than to click on what ever looks interesting > and hope that you do not break something. > most if

Re: quicktime video work for you?

2010-07-22 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Thu, 7/22/10, Neal Becker wrote: > I'm trying to view this: > >  http://blip.tv/file/3900047/ > > I think I have all relevant software installed, but it > doesn't work.  Tried > both chrome-unstable and firefox. > > Work for you? Yes.  Works fine here. Downloads and plays automatical

Re: Missing option in evolution

2010-07-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 08:36 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > In evolution under Folder there was an option to chose all messages in > the folder. It seems to have disappeared in F13. > > Can it be found somewhere else? Edit->Select All poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

Re: bind() to /dev/log failed

2010-07-22 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 07/22/2010 02:29 AM, Mansuri, Wasim (NSN - IN/Bangalore) wrote: > > Hello All, > > I want to listen to /dev/log. For that I am using the following code. > > Please let me know whats the issue in the following code snip. Code I am > running with root user. > > Thanks, wasim > > if ((sockfd =

Re: Open Letter (Plea for Medical/Help Assistance) to World Leaders

2010-07-22 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 22:50 -0700, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 7/21/2010 10:19 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > Hi list admins, > > > > Could this person (Teo En Ming) be blocked? I think his email address > > has been compromised and I have seen spam from this address on various > > other lists too, Sc

Re: Status of ESATA in F13 ?

2010-07-22 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I am wondering how ESATA devices are supposed to work in F13 these days. > > Does F13 support hot plugging of ESATA devices ? > Are they only recognized at boot time ? > Are they supported at all ? > > Thanks > > $ uname -a > Linux localhost.l

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread jack craig
On 07/21/2010 05:03 PM, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:04 AM, jack craig wrote: > > >> install Firefox and google for life... ;-) >> > > Really good suggestion, but w.r.t Fedora, life is related in small > extent but more with watching movies and visiting new places.

Status of ESATA in F13 ?

2010-07-22 Thread Linuxguy123
I am wondering how ESATA devices are supposed to work in F13 these days. Does F13 support hot plugging of ESATA devices ? Are they only recognized at boot time ? Are they supported at all ? Thanks $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.33.5-124.fc13.i686.PAE #1 SMP Fri Jun 11 09:42:24 UTC 20

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 20:46 +0530, Parshwa Murdia wrote: > My friend suggested me for fedora bibble, but that's for fedora 10, > though i hope that it would be okay for at least basics. Basics are similar between releases, however some of the specifics can be very different. For that reason, I wo

Re: Bottom posting in Gmail [Was:Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...]

2010-07-22 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 15:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > IMHO you forgot to add IMHO since we've now entered the realm of > opinion, IMHO. :-) ;-) I think that it goes without saying that anything that someone expresses about something is an opinion. Usually their own, but it can be someone else'

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:32 AM, g wrote: > you can also have a look at links to right of page, 'Sponsored Links'. > also, note my sig. ;) Really? > to learn it, you are going to have to read. very correct. > no way around it, other than to click on what ever looks interesting > and hope

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Roger wrote: > First check out every menu option then learn to install and uninstall > and update Fedora and programs/applications on line. Yes, on the list itself (earlier Tim and others helped me) and I updated with the command: yum update after becoming roo

Re: X-chat question

2010-07-22 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Steve Blackwell wrote: >> >> XChat>Network List>Add > No such option. At least not in v0.26.1 (F12) In xchat-gnome, it's under Edit > Preferences > Networks > Add -- Chris -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > First, I would suggest installing the latest Fedora (13), as Fedora 11 > is end of life and no longer gets updates. That is correct but I have already installed the fedora 11 from the live CD and updated it by the command yum update and it t

Re: X-chat question

2010-07-22 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:15:38 +0100 Andrew Haley wrote: > On 07/22/2010 03:07 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:45:49 +0100 > > Andrew Haley wrote: > > > >> On 07/22/2010 02:40 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote: > >>> I wanted to join an IRC chat on irc.gnome.org so I fired up > >>>

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Start with using the GUI apps, to get comfortable. Open Firefox and browse the > web. Use mplayer/VLC/xine to watch videos, DVD's and stuff. Use > Amarok/XMMS/KSCD to play mp3/audio CDs. Use K3B and burn a CD or a DVD. Use > OpenOffice Wri

Re: Bottom posting in Gmail [Was:Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...]

2010-07-22 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Tim wrote: > You can argue for bottom posting, but you usually have to scroll past > lots of needlessly quoted text, as few people trim the quotes. And > those that don't tend to be the ones that include 300 lines of quotes. Rather a lot of the noise on mailing lists is quot

Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??

2010-07-22 Thread Parshwa Murdia
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Roger wrote: > To know about Fedora 11, I think the first thing is to try and use many > of the applications that are available. Don't worry too much about the > hundreds of applications that make up Fedora packages, just use the ones > you are comfortable with an

Re: X-chat question

2010-07-22 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/22/2010 03:07 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:45:49 +0100 > Andrew Haley wrote: > >> On 07/22/2010 02:40 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote: >>> I wanted to join an IRC chat on irc.gnome.org so I fired up >>> XChat-GNOME (v0.26.1) and got the list of servers. The problem is >>> i

Re: X-chat question

2010-07-22 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:07:23 -0400 Steve Blackwell wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:45:49 +0100 > Andrew Haley wrote: > > > On 07/22/2010 02:40 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote: > > > I wanted to join an IRC chat on irc.gnome.org so I fired up > > > XChat-GNOME (v0.26.1) and got the list of servers. Th

Re: Launchy Fedora 13 x86_64

2010-07-22 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Pasan wrote, at 07/22/2010 10:56 PM +9:00: > Can someone please point me to a binary of Launchy 2.5 for Fedora 13 x86_64. > > When I tried to build it from source I got the following message at the last > step (when it's linking) of the make process. > > /usr/bin/ld: build/platform_x11_hotkey.o: u

Re: X-chat question

2010-07-22 Thread Steve Blackwell
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:45:49 +0100 Andrew Haley wrote: > On 07/22/2010 02:40 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote: > > I wanted to join an IRC chat on irc.gnome.org so I fired up > > XChat-GNOME (v0.26.1) and got the list of servers. The problem is > > irc.gnome.org is not on the list! > > > > I was able t

Re: Installing PHP w/F13 on Intel mini

2010-07-22 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On 07/22/2010 02:54 PM, Mike Beatty wrote: > New to Fedora. Have installed F13 on an Intel mini, but doesn't appear PHP > is installed. Can someone point me to a link that could walk me through > this? I need to install PHP to run an installer script for an email program. > > Thanks! > > Mike If y

Re: Installing PHP w/F13 on Intel mini

2010-07-22 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/22/2010 09:54 AM, Mike Beatty wrote: > New to Fedora. Have installed F13 on an Intel mini, but doesn't appear PHP > is installed. Can someone point me to a link that could walk me through > this? I need to install PHP to run an installer script f

Launchy Fedora 13 x86_64

2010-07-22 Thread Pasan
Can someone please point me to a binary of Launchy 2.5 for Fedora 13 x86_64. When I tried to build it from source I got the following message at the last step (when it's linking) of the make process. /usr/bin/ld: build/platform_x11_hotkey.o: undefined reference to symbol 'XKeycodeToKeysym' /usr/b

Installing PHP w/F13 on Intel mini

2010-07-22 Thread Mike Beatty
New to Fedora. Have installed F13 on an Intel mini, but doesn't appear PHP is installed. Can someone point me to a link that could walk me through this? I need to install PHP to run an installer script for an email program. Thanks! Mike -- Mike Beatty -- users mailing list users@lists.fedora

Re: Non-graphical Boot and Terminal Font

2010-07-22 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/22/2010 08:37 AM, David Liguori wrote: >> I prefer to boot in non-graphical mode then load the Xwindow system, or >> not, as desired.  To this end I set my default runlevel to 3 an

Re: X-chat question

2010-07-22 Thread Andrew Haley
On 07/22/2010 02:40 PM, Steve Blackwell wrote: > I wanted to join an IRC chat on irc.gnome.org so I fired up XChat-GNOME > (v0.26.1) and got the list of servers. The problem is irc.gnome.org is > not on the list! > > I was able to get to it by starting Firefox and entering > irc://irc.gnome.org in

X-chat question

2010-07-22 Thread Steve Blackwell
I wanted to join an IRC chat on irc.gnome.org so I fired up XChat-GNOME (v0.26.1) and got the list of servers. The problem is irc.gnome.org is not on the list! I was able to get to it by starting Firefox and entering irc://irc.gnome.org in the locator bar which started another XChat-GNOME with the

Re: Non-graphical Boot and Terminal Font

2010-07-22 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/22/2010 08:37 AM, David Liguori wrote: > I prefer to boot in non-graphical mode then load the Xwindow system, or > not, as desired. To this end I set my default runlevel to 3 and delete > the option "rhgb quiet" in grub.conf, as is well docume

Missing option in evolution

2010-07-22 Thread Aaron Konstam
In evolution under Folder there was an option to chose all messages in the folder. It seems to have disappeared in F13. Can it be found somewhere else? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listi

Re: Non-graphical Boot and Terminal Font

2010-07-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:37:04 -0400 David Liguori wrote: > My searches on this topic have been surprisingly unproductive. Mine too, but I eventually found something that helps (though it isn't setting things back to 80 columns). With the new kernel video mode setting, the fonts in console mode co

Non-graphical Boot and Terminal Font

2010-07-22 Thread David Liguori
I prefer to boot in non-graphical mode then load the Xwindow system, or not, as desired. To this end I set my default runlevel to 3 and delete the option "rhgb quiet" in grub.conf, as is well documented. In past releases the startup messages would change from 80 to 132 columns early on (no do

Re: quicktime video work for you?

2010-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/22/2010 07:36 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > http://blip.tv/file/3900047/ > > I think I have all relevant software installed, but it doesn't work. Tried > both chrome-unstable and firefox. > > Work for you? > Yes. Works fine on F11, firefox, and gecko-mediaplayer. -- Beauty is one of the ra

quicktime video work for you?

2010-07-22 Thread Neal Becker
I'm trying to view this: http://blip.tv/file/3900047/ I think I have all relevant software installed, but it doesn't work. Tried both chrome-unstable and firefox. Work for you? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.f

Re: DNS services no longer work due to missing files

2010-07-22 Thread Deron Meranda
> The change that is > needed is to change the "include" lines in /etc/named.conf, deleting the > lines: > >     include "/etc/pki/dnssec-keys//named.dnssec.keys"; >     include "/etc/pki/dnssec-keys//dlv/dlv.isc.org.conf"; > > and inserting a single line: > >     include "/etc/named.iscdlv.

Re: Bottom posting in Gmail [Was:Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...]

2010-07-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/22/2010 03:48 PM, Tim wrote: > The biggest sin is not editing out the quoted text that's not needed, > not the posting style. Use the damn delete key, or we will use ours. IMHO you forgot to add IMHO since we've now entered the realm of opinion, IMHO. :-) -- YOW!! What should the entire

Re: Bottom posting in Gmail [Was:Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...]

2010-07-22 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 17:51 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > No, actually, those using Thunderbird (esp those who think bottom > posting is a pain) should install the Quote Collapse add-on. If you > need to read the collapsed quote, just click on the +. There is no substitute for posting a clear

Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...

2010-07-22 Thread birger
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 22:27 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear fellow Fedora users, > > In light of the other(s) Big Distro makers, Red Hat is also taking a look at > not staying behind. Here's an article that might be of interest: > > http://press.redhat.com/2010/07/12/red-hat-introduces-cl