Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 12:17 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I was just there 3 minutes ago Rahul, and there is still as yet, no way to > follow that site to a get torrents page, and the site > Patience. The patch was just submitted sometime back and it takes time to get it synced, translations updated e

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, g wrote: >Jud Craft wrote: >> I'm sorry if I'm late to the party or this has been previously > > > > >true to form. > >38 complaints about no link to torrents, of which only 1 poster, #26, >provides a hot link in his post. > > >for me, it is easy to find because i have both

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >On 05/27/2010 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> A...you poor thing. > >Ed, stop being so patronizing. It doesn't help the conversation. Oh, sorry. Heck, I was gonna pitch in and help by adding that link to XKCD with the worlds smallest violin.

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote: >On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 23:09 +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> I thought torrent was precisely invented for this kind of purpose. I >> also held the opinion that torrent is by far the number one method of >> getting Fedora, or any other Linux distro for

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote: >On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 16:09 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Wed, 26 May 2010 14:56:31 -0400 >> >> Máirín Duffy wrote: >> > There were multiple blog posts on the redesign posted to Planet Fedora >> > [1] (and syndicated to many other Linux & open source

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 11:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I don't want this to be a "best effort" affair either. Either he > undertakes the job full time or not at all. As part of the project I > would also hope that he updates the list guidelines to indicate what > words or phrases that we are not to use.

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Tom Horsley wrote: >On Wed, 26 May 2010 14:56:31 -0400 > >Máirín Duffy wrote: >> There were multiple blog posts on the redesign posted to Planet Fedora >> [1] (and syndicated to many other Linux & open source-related blog >> planets) over a period of several months, as wel

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/27/2010 01:45 PM, Craig White wrote: >> On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 13:39 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >>> On 05/27/2010 01:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> On 05/27/2010 10:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > So, you are the list moderator? And who tr

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 11:45 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So far, no other 'tone' has gotten anyones attention. The website is a > disaster Rahul, you should admit it, and take steps to get it fixed if you > have that level of power. > Everyone has that level of power if they have an interest in doing

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 02:15:08 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So far, no other 'tone' has gotten anyones attention. The website is a > disaster Rahul, you should admit it, and take steps to get it fixed if you > have that level of power. I think that is an incorrect conclusion. If people

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/27/2010 01:45 PM, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 13:39 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 05/27/2010 01:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> >>> On 05/27/2010 10:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> >>> So, you are the list moderator? And who trashed anything? >>

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:48 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: >>> AFAIK this is a function of 'sudo'. It asks you the first time and >>> remembers for a few minutes after. I've never seen this behaviour >> other >>> than with sudo. >> Umm, perhaps you mean su. The sudo command

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >On 05/27/2010 10:37 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Climb down from your high horse for a moment and stop being so much a >> word police and the defender of anyone with a fedoraproject.org email >> address. If I (or anyone else) can't use a simple "BS" with

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wednesday 26 May 2010 11:00 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 22:17 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> My objection was the resources to some of the >> unconventional download methods were orphaned, as in _no_ fedora pages >> were pointing to these entirely functional choices. > >

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, g wrote: >Jud Craft wrote: >> I'm sorry if I'm late to the party or this has been previously > > > > >true to form. > >38 complaints about no link to torrents, of which only 1 poster, #26, >provides a hot link in his post. > > >for me, it is easy to find because i have both

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 May 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >On 05/27/2010 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> A...you poor thing. > >Ed, stop being so patronizing. It doesn't help the conversation. Oh, sorry. Heck, I was gonna pitch in and help by adding that link to XKCD with the worlds smallest violin.

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 22:17 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: > My objection was the resources to some of the > unconventional download methods were orphaned, as in _no_ fedora pages > were pointing to these entirely functional choices. Actually there is, though I doubt most people will see it. If you rea

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote: >On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 23:09 +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> I thought torrent was precisely invented for this kind of purpose. I >> also held the opinion that torrent is by far the number one method of >> getting Fedora, or any other Linux distro for

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 13:39 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/27/2010 01:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 05/27/2010 10:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > >> So, you are the list moderator? And who trashed anything? > >> > > I don't see the need for being a list moderator to point this out bu

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wednesday 26 May 2010 10:41 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Wednesday 26 May 2010 05:56 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Suvayu >> Ali wrote: >>> I believe what the OP is asking is the gui utility that remembers the >>> authentication after a user enters the root password after th

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wednesday 26 May 2010 05:56 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Suvayu Ali > wrote: >> I believe what the OP is asking is the gui utility that remembers the >> authentication after a user enters the root password after the prompt by >> a gui dialogue. > > You're right. I was be

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/27/2010 01:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/27/2010 10:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> So, you are the list moderator? And who trashed anything? >> > I don't see the need for being a list moderator to point this out but if > you want me to play that role, I can take that up. >

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 10:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > So, you are the list moderator? And who trashed anything? I don't see the need for being a list moderator to point this out but if you want me to play that role, I can take that up. > For someone who is "on guard" for the tone of the conversation to n

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/27/2010 01:11 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/27/2010 10:37 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Climb down from your high horse for a moment and stop being so much a >> word police and the defender of anyone with a fedoraproject.org email >> address. If I (or anyone else) can't use a simple "BS"

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wednesday 26 May 2010 08:05 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:57 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> On Wednesday 26 May 2010 01:57 PM, � Duffy wrote: >>> Where would someone get to the mirrors then? Oh just add one more link >>> right? Okay. How about boot.fedoraproject.org or download

Re: Linking two files together

2010-05-26 Thread NiftyFedora Mitch
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Rector, David wrote: > > I have seen 'mmv' and 'lxsplit' and they all seem to do the same thing, > namely they want to physically copy the bytes in order to join two files > together. > > Is there any such utility in linux to perform such a hard link to join or

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 10:37 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Climb down from your high horse for a moment and stop being so much a > word police and the defender of anyone with a fedoraproject.org email > address. If I (or anyone else) can't use a simple "BS" without the fear > that someone is going to go on a p

Re: [URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow

2010-05-26 Thread g
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > Hi, > > First, I would like to apologize for the out-of-topic post. I will keep > this very short. already too long. > Does anybody know Dr. Francis T. Seow, the former Solicitor-General from > the Republic of Singapore? not personally. > I want to con

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/27/2010 12:30 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/27/2010 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> A...you poor thing. >> >> > Ed, stop being so patronizing. It doesn't help the conversation. It doesn't help the conversation when a great percentage of the post I responded to was full

Re: Firefox java plugin

2010-05-26 Thread Chris Spike
Hi Alejandro, On 05/27/2010 04:53 AM, Alejandro Rodriguez Luna wrote: > Hi all, i just installed F13 and downloaded java from sun, and installed > on /opt, the problem is that i can't get the plugin for firefox work, i > made a soft link from /opt/jre/plugins/i386/ libjavaplugin_oji.so to > ~/.moz

Re: Linking two files together

2010-05-26 Thread NiftyFedora Mitch
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Rector, David wrote: > Hello, > > I have studied various filesystems, and am fairly familiar with how they are > structured. However, I am currently stuck on trying to do what seems like a > simple thing. > > I would like to join two files together without havin

[URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow

2010-05-26 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Hi, First, I would like to apologize for the out-of-topic post. I will keep this very short. Does anybody know Dr. Francis T. Seow, the former Solicitor-General from the Republic of Singapore? I want to contact him but can't seem to find his email address or telephone number on the internet. C

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread g
Jud Craft wrote: > I'm sorry if I'm late to the party or this has been previously true to form. 38 complaints about no link to torrents, of which only 1 poster, #26, provides a hot link in his post. for me, it is easy to find because i have both http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ and http:

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 09:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > A...you poor thing. > Ed, stop being so patronizing. It doesn't help the conversation. > As someone else pointed outthe "View full list of options for > getting Fedora ... " is > incomplete

Re: [URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow

2010-05-26 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
I must apologize. I keep sending out emails but I get very little replies. It looks like my email accounts may have been compromised and so I have to resort to this method. Once again, very sorry. Thank you very much. On 05/27/2010 12:24 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > What does this have to

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/27/2010 11:30 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 06:34 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> That is pure BS. >> > No, it is not "pure BS." What a disrespectful thing to say! > A...you poor thing. > Fedora us supposed to lead, not follow. Copying other distros isn't wh

Re: [URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow

2010-05-26 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Do you also know how I can contact all the justices of the Judicial Committee of the UK Privy Council and all the Lords of the UK House of Lords? According to the UK Parliament website, it says that many Peers do not have public email addresses. Thank you very much. On 05/27/2010 12:03 PM, M

Re: [URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow

2010-05-26 Thread Paul Allen Newell
What does this have to do with Fedora? On 5/26/2010 9:03 PM, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: > Hi, > > First, I would like to apologize for the out-of-topic post. I will keep > this very short. > > Does anybody know Dr. Francis T. Seow, the former Solicitor-General from > the Republic of Sin

PYCURL ERROR 6 and slow tranfer rates

2010-05-26 Thread Marcel Rieux
New updates today and the PYCURL ERROR 6 comes back again. It looks like this: Total download size: 87 M Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages: http://mirror.pnl.gov/fedora/linux/updates/12/x86_64/kdebase-4.4.3-2.fc12.1.x86_64.rpm: [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 6 - "" Trying other mirror. http://mir

[URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow

2010-05-26 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Hi, First, I would like to apologize for the out-of-topic post. I will keep this very short. Does anybody know Dr. Francis T. Seow, the former Solicitor-General from the Republic of Singapore? I want to contact him but can't seem to find his email address or telephone number on the internet. C

Re: Linking two files together

2010-05-26 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 26May2010 17:06, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: | On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 07:30 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: | > Can you elaborate on why you want this as opposed to to a hard link? | > i.e. what specific facility a hard link does _not_ give you that your | > proposal would? | | A hard link just gi

Re: mdraid & dmraid, Fedora 11 & Fedora 13

2010-05-26 Thread Aram J. Agajanian
On Wed, 26 May 2010 07:50:35 -0700 Joe Christy wrote: > > Vis-a-vis Aram J. Agajanian's note of 2010-05-25 20:22: > > I have installed Fedora onto several computers with Intel BIOS RAID > > arrays and have always partitioned similarly to the way that you > > have described. Anaconda has detected

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 19:54 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2010 14:57:55 -0700 > Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > I understand your concern and see the merit in keeping the default > > get-fedora page simple, but I fail to see how that implies no page > > linking to either of these pages. (or

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 19:58 -0300, Andre Costa wrote: > First of all: I do appreciate all the effort in making the download > page easier to newbies, and I recognize a lot of thought has been > spent in doing so. However, it doesn't mean the result can't be > improved, even if the improvements wi

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 06:34 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > That is pure BS. No, it is not "pure BS." What a disrespectful thing to say! > If people don't know what a bittorrent is or a jigdo they will ignore > it... How do you know this? Have you performed usability tests of interfaces with techn

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 15:05 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: > 2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : > >> That would have at least kept me (and probably many others) from > >> scanning the page over and over again for ten minutes looking for what > >> I just knew must be there. > > > > No, it wouldn't. > > Yes, it wou

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 23:09 +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > I thought torrent was precisely invented for this kind of purpose. I > also held the opinion that torrent is by far the number one method of > getting Fedora, or any other Linux distro for that matter. It isn't. Not even amongst current

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:57 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Wednesday 26 May 2010 01:57 PM, � Duffy wrote: > > Where would someone get to the mirrors then? Oh just add one more link > > right? Okay. How about boot.fedoraproject.org or downloading a boot iso? > > Oh, just one or two more links. Okay.

Re: Firefox java plugin

2010-05-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/27/2010 10:53 AM, Alejandro Rodriguez Luna wrote: > Hi all, i just installed F13 and downloaded java from sun, and > installed on /opt, the problem is that i can't get the plugin for > firefox work, i made a soft link from /opt/jre/plugins/i386/ > libjavaplugin_oji.so to ~/.mozilla/plugins/li

Fedora 13 + nvidia + kde

2010-05-26 Thread slamp slamp
I had a problem logging into KDE after an upgrade from Fedora 12. I have akmod-nvidia installed. To fix the login issue I had to remove /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 as I was seeing ksmserver: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 in my xessions log file. anyone know a better fix? the nvidia driver provi

Re: Linking two files together

2010-05-26 Thread john wendel
On 05/26/2010 10:16 AM, Rector, David wrote: > Hello, > > I have studied various filesystems, and am fairly familiar with how they are > structured. However, I am currently stuck on trying to do what seems like a > simple thing. > > I would like to join two files together without having to physic

Firefox java plugin

2010-05-26 Thread Alejandro Rodriguez Luna
Hi all, i just installed F13 and downloaded java from sun, and installed on /opt, the problem is that i can't get the plugin for firefox work, i made a soft link from /opt/jre/plugins/i386/ libjavaplugin_oji.so to ~/.mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so and didn't work, I always had made the sa

Re: Fedora 13 Installation frustrations

2010-05-26 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Leslie S Satenstein wrote: > > I had to let you know how I passed a night of no sleep to install Fedora13. > > My Configuration. > disk hd0,  XP on 1st half,  Fedora12 on second. > Disk hd1  W7 on 1st half,  storage (fat32) on second half > > CPU memory 4 gigs, ATI

F12 to F13 upgrade doesn't update grub.conf

2010-05-26 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
Hello I have updated my laptop from F12 to F13 using the DVD upgrade method, after the installation my laptop can't boot because the fedora installer have not updated grub.conf so i rebooted to rescue mode and i have updated grub.conf manually, now the system boot with kernel version 2.6.33.3-

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Tom H
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Wednesday 26 May 2010 02:27 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote: >>> I have seen claims on this list that the root password is >>> remembered for a small amount of time so you don't keep >>> getting asked.

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 05/26/2010 06:17 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > In short you are better off configuring sudo and calling > system-config-printer from the terminal like this, > > $ sudo system-config-printer > Sort of begs the question why the GUI does not use sudo ... let the gui do what it does best .. goo-eee .

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 May 2010 14:57:55 -0700 Suvayu Ali wrote: > I understand your concern and see the merit in keeping the default > get-fedora page simple, but I fail to see how that implies no page > linking to either of these pages. (or maybe I didn't look long enough) I like the default page too, bu

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 May 2010 15:17:41 -0700 Suvayu Ali wrote: > In short you are better off configuring sudo and calling > system-config-printer from the terminal like this, > > $ sudo system-config-printer Yes, running this stuff as root usually works (except for the brief period of time where the code

RE: F12->F13 DVD Upgrade fails

2010-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 16:33 -0500, Styma, Robert E (Robert) wrote: > > > However nothing in that directory is labelled as an .iso image file. The > > README talks about "boot.iso" but there is no such file on the entire > > DVD (I verified with "find"). > > You can find a copy of the boot.iso her

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Roger
Regarding the below comment I've used Red Hat and now Fedora for many years. I, too, wouldn't join another list just to comment. Google 'get fedora' provided a link, so far so good. I found the Fedora site was 'ok', graphisc seem very pixelated, look and feel are unrepresentative of Fedora qual

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 17:24:09 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > >I do think it would be hard to argue announcing and actively discussing > >the design on three separate Fedora mailing lists was not sufficient > >enough mailing list exposure! > >

Re: How does F13 work with nvidia hardware ?

2010-05-26 Thread Richard Allen
On 05/26/2010 03:57 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I run the proprietary, closed source nvidia driver in F12. What happens > when I upgrade to F13 ? At first glance things work just fine for me on my laptop. The laptop has a Quadro FX1500M chip. However, when using GL apps things get a bit strange.

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Andre Costa
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 17:42, Alan Evans wrote: > 2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : > > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:22 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: > >> 2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : > >> > The links you referenced were removed quite explicitly in the design. > >> > The assumption was that if someone understands how

Re: Fedora 12, Xorg, and Apex Outlook KVM, - can't nail resolution

2010-05-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:07:22 -0500 Styma, Robert E (Robert) wrote: > My desire now is to find the detected EDID and hardcode it as a kernel > parameter as was suggested when the thread first started. The /var/log/Xorg.0.log file usually has detected EDID info, so you might find what you need the

Fedora 13 Installation frustrations

2010-05-26 Thread Leslie S Satenstein
I had to let you know how I passed a night of no sleep to install Fedora13. My Configuration. disk hd0,  XP on 1st half,  Fedora12 on second.  Disk hd1  W7 on 1st half,  storage (fat32) on second half CPU memory 4 gigs, ATI video card, and Intel e7300 dual core cpu. DVD Burner, etc. I decided

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/27/2010 04:58 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:42 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: > >> On Wednesday 26 May 2010 01:31 PM, � Duffy wrote: >> >>> As I already explained clearly: torrents, jigdo, and mirrors are not >>> required to download and enjoy Fedora. These alternative

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wednesday 26 May 2010 02:27 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> I have seen claims on this list that the root password is >> remembered for a small amount of time so you don't keep >> getting asked. That has never worked for me, but I assumed >> it was just

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 21:55 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I am afraid that is not is a useful comment. It doesn't say anything > specific. If the goal is to provide feedback to help improve the > design, it requires a mutual discussion rather than just shouting > something rude from the roof to

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Alan Evans
2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : >> That would have at least kept me (and probably many others) from >> scanning the page over and over again for ten minutes looking for what >> I just knew must be there. > > No, it wouldn't. Yes, it would. I would have found the link that I was expecting to be on the pag

Re: Linking two files together

2010-05-26 Thread Robert Nichols
On 05/26/2010 01:41 PM, Rector, David wrote: > Mike, > > Thanks for the tip. I think there may be something here I can use. > > However, I am not as familiar with pipes and streams as I would like > to be. > > Is it possible to use cat so the multiple files will pipe to something > that my app can

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wednesday 26 May 2010 01:57 PM, � Duffy wrote: > Where would someone get to the mirrors then? Oh just add one more link > right? Okay. How about boot.fedoraproject.org or downloading a boot iso? > Oh, just one or two more links. Okay. How about adding a link to KDE on > the front page? Ooh, that

Re: Fedora 12, Xorg, and Apex Outlook KVM, - can't nail resolution

2010-05-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 16:07:22 -0500, "Styma, Robert E (Robert)" wrote: > > My desire now is to find the detected EDID and hardcode it as a kernel > parameter as was suggested when the thread first started. A hex version of the EDID should be recorded in /var/log/Xorg.0.log when you boot wi

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Wednesday 26 May 2010 01:31 PM, � Duffy wrote: >> As I already explained clearly: torrents, jigdo, and mirrors are not >> required to download and enjoy Fedora. These alternative and in some >> cases niche methods for downloading Fedora are

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 16:59 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > >> and makes a new entry. > > > > IOW it remembers it by logging it. How else would it do it except by > > recording it in a file? > > > > poc > > > > It is an suid program - it doesn't need a password unless the policy > chooses to

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 16:45 -0400, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > I'm reminded of Monty Python's Cheese Shop skit, with you playing the > role of the shopkeeper. Sure, in that: - We must have just about as many particular versions of Fedora to download as there are varieties of cheese... - Most folks

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 17:24 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > OTOH, one must be subscribed to said lists in order to participate. That's right! If you want to participate in Fedora, you need to subscribe to the mailing lists where projects are happening! > Those of > us who have varied interests ar

RE: F12->F13 DVD Upgrade fails

2010-05-26 Thread Styma, Robert E (Robert)
> However nothing in that directory is labelled as an .iso image file. The > README talks about "boot.iso" but there is no such file on the entire > DVD (I verified with "find"). You can find a copy of the boot.iso here, or at whatever mirror you prefer. http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releas

Re: Linking two files together

2010-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 07:30 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > Can you elaborate on why you want this as opposed to to a hard link? > i.e. what specific facility a hard link does _not_ give you that your > proposal would? A hard link just gives a specific file an extra name. The OP wants a single nam

Re: Linking two files together

2010-05-26 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 26May2010 10:16, Rector, David wrote: | I have studied various filesystems, and am fairly familiar with how they are structured. However, I am currently stuck on trying to do what seems like a simple thing. | | I would like to join two files together without having to physically copy bytes

RE: Fedora 12, Xorg, and Apex Outlook KVM, - can't nail resolution

2010-05-26 Thread Styma, Robert E (Robert)
> > > It appears that Xorg has gotten so good at protecting me from myself that > > when it comes up with the wrong answer, I am just stuck. Maybe a different > > 8 port KVM might produce better results, but I am not ready to buy another. > It would be nice if old hardware was handled better,

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread David Boles
On 5/26/2010 4:22 PM, Alan Evans wrote: > 2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : >> The links you referenced were removed quite explicitly in the design. >> The assumption was that if someone understands how to use bittorrent, >> jigdo, and mirror lists, they are more than capable of making use of a >> search en

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Tom H
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > I have seen claims on this list that the root password is > remembered for a small amount of time so you don't keep > getting asked. That has never worked for me, but I assumed > it was just because I was running a non-standard session > and wa

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Máirín Duffy wrote: >On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 16:09 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Wed, 26 May 2010 14:56:31 -0400 >> >> Máirín Duffy wrote: >> > There were multiple blog posts on the redesign posted to Planet Fedora >> > [1] (and syndicated to many other Linux & open source

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Tom Horsley wrote: >On Wed, 26 May 2010 14:56:31 -0400 > >Máirín Duffy wrote: >> There were multiple blog posts on the redesign posted to Planet Fedora >> [1] (and syndicated to many other Linux & open source-related blog >> planets) over a period of several months, as wel

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Genes MailLists
>> and makes a new entry. > > IOW it remembers it by logging it. How else would it do it except by > recording it in a file? > > poc > It is an suid program - it doesn't need a password unless the policy chooses to ask for one. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:42 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Wednesday 26 May 2010 01:31 PM, � Duffy wrote: > > As I already explained clearly: torrents, jigdo, and mirrors are not > > required to download and enjoy Fedora. These alternative and in some > > cases niche methods for downloading Fedora a

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:42 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: > You seem to think that the only alternative to completely excluding > the more technical options is to scatter incomprehensible jargon all > over the page. I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion. I came to this conclusion after going thr

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:32:35 -0400 Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:22 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: > > 2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : > > > The links you referenced were removed quite explicitly in the > > > design. The assumption was that if someone understands how to use > > > bittorrent,

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wednesday 26 May 2010 01:31 PM, � Duffy wrote: > As I already explained clearly: torrents, jigdo, and mirrors are not > required to download and enjoy Fedora. These alternative and in some > cases niche methods for downloading Fedora are not essential for > actually obtaining Fedora. Jigdo, may

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Alan Evans
2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:22 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: >> 2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : >> > The links you referenced were removed quite explicitly in the design. >> > The assumption was that if someone understands how to use bittorrent, >> > jigdo, and mirror lists, they are mo

Re: usbmuxd

2010-05-26 Thread Tom London
> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 12:48:49 -0500 > From: Steven Stern > Subject: usbmuxd > To: Community support for Fedora users > Message-ID: <4bfd5f01.1070...@sterndata.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 > > Right after the upgrade, F13 saw my iPhone and offered to open Rhythmbox > or

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread David Boles
On 5/26/2010 4:31 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: Máirín > Make a decision - contribute, or don't contribute. If you're going to > contribute, then follow the design and development of the distro. If > you're not going to contribute, don't be rude to those who did. No one > is asking you to guess, I am

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:22 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: > 2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : > > The links you referenced were removed quite explicitly in the design. > > The assumption was that if someone understands how to use bittorrent, > > jigdo, and mirror lists, they are more than capable of making use o

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 16:09 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2010 14:56:31 -0400 > Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > There were multiple blog posts on the redesign posted to Planet Fedora > > [1] (and syndicated to many other Linux & open source-related blog > > planets) over a period of several

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:48 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > > AFAIK this is a function of 'sudo'. It asks you the first time and > > remembers for a few minutes after. I've never seen this behaviour > other > > than with sudo. > > Umm, perhaps you mean su. The sudo command does not prompt > for the r

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Alan Evans
2010/5/26 Máirín Duffy : > The links you referenced were removed quite explicitly in the design. > The assumption was that if someone understands how to use bittorrent, > jigdo, and mirror lists, they are more than capable of making use of a > search engine to find them. I hope that this thread is

Re: root password prompts

2010-05-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Mike McCarty wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:39 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > [...] > >>> Where is this mythical setting to make it >>> remember the password? >> AFAIK this is a function of 'sudo'. It asks you the first time and >> remembers for a few minutes after

Rocket Fedora 13 media artwork

2010-05-26 Thread Valent Turkovic
http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/26/rockets-artwork-for-fedora-13-media/ I remixed some Fedora graphics to create new CD/DVD labels. Hope you enjoy them, Cheers! -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf

Re: Linux vs. Vision Tek Radeon HD3650

2010-05-26 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 25 May 2010, suvayu ali wrote: On 25 May 2010 09:03, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: I don't see anything with a remotely similar name. Does that mean that linux does not support any card remotely like it? soundwave:/home/bseklecki$ grep HD /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep 3650        ATI Radeon HD

Re: Regarding Get Fedora page

2010-05-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 May 2010 14:56:31 -0400 Máirín Duffy wrote: > There were multiple blog posts on the redesign posted to Planet Fedora > [1] (and syndicated to many other Linux & open source-related blog > planets) over a period of several months, as well as mentioned on Fedora > Weekly News [2], discuss

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