Re: entropy

2010-01-10 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 03:47 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > it's just like a bunch of Physicists to go to all the trouble to > build a randomness source out of a Geiger counter. A noisy resistor > or diode would have done the job just as well. One of my very old computers had a white noi

Re: NetworkManager vs Cacheing nameserver

2010-01-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 09:54:54 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > > its recursive lookups if not from the DHCP service? > > If you want to add the name servers specified by DHCP to lookups, > then you don't want your resolv.conf file to be unmodified, > instead you want NM to modify it "correctly",

Re: LAN Card doesn't activate

2010-01-10 Thread j . halifax .
Hi Hugh, Thank you for your response and excuse for insufficient info... I'll add next details in your text. Regards, jh > Původní zpráva > Od: D. Hugh Redelmeier > Předmět: Re: LAN Card doesn't activate > Datum: 11.1.2010 02:10:49 > ---

Re: Fedora mailing list migration complete!

2010-01-10 Thread Ramesh.R
Thanks for all your hardwork. Best Regards, Ramesh Ramasamy On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > People should be sure to check the wiki for addresses that need updating > after the list migration. > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe:

Re: Fedora mailing list migration complete!

2010-01-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
People should be sure to check the wiki for addresses that need updating after the list migration. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: fetchmail [FAILED] need more info [SOLVED]

2010-01-10 Thread Gene Smith
Gene Smith wrote, On 01/10/2010 08:26 PM: > When I start service fetchmail all I see if [FAILED] in the startup > messages. I see nothing in the log messages, syslog or dmesg. Is there a > way to get more info on this? > > I can manually start my fetchmail using "service fetchmail start" after > sy

Re: Flash Problem

2010-01-10 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Alan Cox wrote: >> I believe you live in England. Does the BBC, who mainly developed >> Because of DRM, it even seems unsure the BBC itself will use it: >> >> > > This doesn't affect webcasti

Re: Using xandr -- Re: problems with system-config-display and crtl-alt-backspace

2010-01-10 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Tuesday 05 January 2010 14:21:19 Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/05/2010 05:39 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Sorry to jump in this thread, but have you tried to use xrandr to set up the resolution you want? That way you don't need to generate xorg.conf, and can conv

Re: fetchmail [FAILED] need more info

2010-01-10 Thread Gene Smith
Clint Dilks wrote, On 01/10/2010 08:36 PM: > Gene Smith wrote: >> When I start service fetchmail all I see if [FAILED] in the startup >> messages. I see nothing in the log messages, syslog or dmesg. Is there a >> way to get more info on this? >> >> I can manually start my fetchmail using "service f

Re: Fedora mailing list migration complete!

2010-01-10 Thread James Matthews
This is great! it's nice to truly be native. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Mail Lists wrote: > On 01/10/2010 02:11 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > > > Everything should be routed through bastion.fedoraproject.org > > > > Dennis > > > > Great - thank you! > -- > users mailing list > users@list

[OT] Free PC100 Memory (Really)

2010-01-10 Thread rgheck
2 sticks PC100 64MB. Free, plus shipping from Massachusetts. Cleaning out the closet and, before I throw this stuff away, I thought I'd offer it here to anyone who needs it. You'd think this stuff would be free, but it's not, and if you need it for your ancient router box, then you need it. R

Re: Trouble with graphics on installing Fedora 12 ppc (early PowerMac G4)

2010-01-10 Thread Clark Martin
William M. Quarles wrote: > On 1/10/2010 11:22 AM, François Cami wrote: >> Hello, >> >> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:31:07 -0500 >> "William M. Quarles" wrote: >> >>> I'm having trouble with using the Fedora 12 installation CDs on my >>> new-old PowerMac G4 that I have acquired. It has a ATI Radeon AGP

Re: fetchmail [FAILED] need more info

2010-01-10 Thread Clint Dilks
Gene Smith wrote: > When I start service fetchmail all I see if [FAILED] in the startup > messages. I see nothing in the log messages, syslog or dmesg. Is there a > way to get more info on this? > > I can manually start my fetchmail using "service fetchmail start" after > system is up and runnin

fetchmail [FAILED] need more info

2010-01-10 Thread Gene Smith
When I start service fetchmail all I see if [FAILED] in the startup messages. I see nothing in the log messages, syslog or dmesg. Is there a way to get more info on this? I can manually start my fetchmail using "service fetchmail start" after system is up and running and it works fine. -gene

Re: LAN Card doesn't activate

2010-01-10 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: j.halifax . | Doesn't anybody know why my LAN Cards don't get active after rebooting | despite of having the check-box for automated activation checked? | | After every reboot I have to open Network option in System->Admin menu | and activate cards manual way. You haven't told us much

Re: Trouble with graphics on installing Fedora 12 ppc (early PowerMac G4)

2010-01-10 Thread William M. Quarles
On 1/10/2010 11:22 AM, François Cami wrote: > > Hello, > > On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:31:07 -0500 > "William M. Quarles" wrote: > >> I'm having trouble with using the Fedora 12 installation CDs on my >> new-old PowerMac G4 that I have acquired. It has a ATI Radeon AGP card >> installed, and I'm using

Re: mailing list losing mail?

2010-01-10 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: =?us-ascii?Q?j=2Ehalifax=20=2E?= | Subject: =?us-ascii?Q?Re=3A=20mailing=20list=20losing=20mail=3F?= | May be something is really missing. I sent an e-mail about not | activating LAN Cards after reboots, but only one response has come. I | guess that it is not so complicated issue that

Re: what happens to existing partitions during install?

2010-01-10 Thread Andras Simon
On 1/10/10, Paul Frields wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Andras Simon wrote: >> If I have a number of partitions from a previous Fedora version, >> and chose custom layout during installation of F12 (just to be >> able to continue to use the same partitions as before) what >> happens to

Re: what happens to existing partitions during install?

2010-01-10 Thread Paul Frields
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Andras Simon wrote: > If I have a number of partitions from a previous Fedora version, > and chose custom layout during installation of F12 (just to be > able to continue to use the same partitions as before) what > happens to those partitions? Are those that are n

what happens to existing partitions during install?

2010-01-10 Thread Andras Simon
If I have a number of partitions from a previous Fedora version, and chose custom layout during installation of F12 (just to be able to continue to use the same partitions as before) what happens to those partitions? Are those that are needed for the installation (/boot, / etc.) formatted and the r

Re: Fedora mailing list migration complete!

2010-01-10 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/10/2010 02:11 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > Everything should be routed through bastion.fedoraproject.org > > Dennis > Great - thank you! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedorap

Re: Test GIMP 2.7/2.8 ?

2010-01-10 Thread Valent Turkovic
>> > I there a way to test new GIMP 2.7/2.8 in Fedora? I looked in Rawhide >> > repos and I still see only 2.6x versions there. Any plans to put 2.7 in >> > Rawhide repost for testing purposes? >> >> Should I ask on development channel? > > You might file an RFE bug against gimp and see what the pa

Re: installation from boot.iso on a usb stick

2010-01-10 Thread Andras Simon
On 1/9/10, Mike Cloaked wrote: > > > > Andras Simon wrote: >> >> Is this possible? Or only the live cd can be transferred to a usb drive? >> >> I like what >> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/ch-new-users.html#sn-which-files >> says about installing from boot.iso, but if

Re: Fedora mailing list migration complete!

2010-01-10 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Sunday 10 January 2010 12:05:19 pm Mail Lists wrote: > On 01/10/2010 04:38 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: > > I'm happy to announce that the Fedora mailing list migration to Fedora > > infrastructure has been completed! Many thanks to all involved in this > > Thanks for your efforts (all 17 hours toda

Re: Fedora mailing list migration complete!

2010-01-10 Thread BeartoothHOS
> On 01/10/2010 04:38 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: >> I'm happy to announce that the Fedora mailing list migration to Fedora >> infrastructure has been completed! Many thanks to all involved in this > > Thanks for your efforts (all 17 hours today!) ... it works great and > I'm happy to report the turn

Re: Fedora mailing list migration complete!

2010-01-10 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/10/2010 04:38 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: > I'm happy to announce that the Fedora mailing list migration to Fedora > infrastructure has been completed! Many thanks to all involved in this Thanks for your efforts (all 17 hours today!) ... it works great and I'm happy to report the turn around tim

Re: Trouble with graphics on installing Fedora 12 ppc (early PowerMac G4)

2010-01-10 Thread François Cami
Hello, On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:31:07 -0500 "William M. Quarles" wrote: > I'm having trouble with using the Fedora 12 installation CDs on my > new-old PowerMac G4 that I have acquired. It has a ATI Radeon AGP card > installed, and I'm using a DVI connection to my monitor. Do you know what kind

Communicate page updated

2010-01-10 Thread Paul W. Frields
I've updated the Fedora wiki page where we summarize popular mailing list pages: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicating_and_getting_help#Mailing_Lists The links and addresses on that page include this "users" list at their new locations on the lists.fp.o domain. If you are not sure where y

Re: Trouble with graphics on installing Fedora 12 ppc (early PowerMac G4)

2010-01-10 Thread Clark Martin
William M. Quarles wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm having trouble with using the Fedora 12 installation CDs on my > new-old PowerMac G4 that I have acquired. It has a ATI Radeon AGP card > installed, and I'm using a DVI connection to my monitor. Once I get to > the graphical install screen, the instal

Re: FC12 battery information

2010-01-10 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 01/10/2010 07:40 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I just got a BIG 9 cell battery for my HP nc2400. Before I had an old 3 > cell battery that was only good for 1 hr. > > So the system is charging and Fedora is reporting the battery is 100% > charge. > > The battery info is now reading 70.3 Wh

Re: entropy

2010-01-10 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > But it's just like a bunch of Physicists to go to all the trouble to > build a randomness source out of a Geiger counter. A noisy resistor > or diode would have done the job just as well. IMHO, 16 bit sampling of a mic with high gain will produce at least 100 bi

ADSL ppp0, persist

2010-01-10 Thread David Hláčik
Hello guys, I have two ISP's connected to my router. One via eth2, second one via ADSL modem, with ppoe . Altought I am using Centos 5.4 i believe the configuration is same on Fedora. The problem I have is, that when ADSL fails , interface ppp0 is removed. This also removes my static routes confi

Bluetooth browse fail :(

2010-01-10 Thread Valent Turkovic
Anybody having trouble browsing files via bluetooth oh their mobile phone? After authorizing Nokia N95 phone with Fedora 12 laptop and tried browsing files on it, but I only get this message: Could not display "obex://[XX:1F:5D:5A:XX:XX]/ Error: Connection refused Please select another viewer and

Re: SNAT

2010-01-10 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/10/2010 09:34 AM, David Hláčik wrote: I am very confused by: a) My "router" has 1 interface eth0 - so err.. you're trying to run 2 networks on same eth0 ? b) The DSL modem is not natting - yet its IP on LAN side is RFC 1981 I'd suggest clearly laying out your network - perhaps o

Re: SNAT

2010-01-10 Thread David Hláčik
*** Sorry for mistake I have configured static route on ADSL modem "10.123.0.0/16 via > 10.123.10.1" which ensures traffic comming from internet will ge to > my router 10.123.10.1 is address of eth0 on my router. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 3:33 PM, David Hláčik wrote: > Hello I will briefly draw t

SNAT

2010-01-10 Thread David Hláčik
Hello I will briefly draw the situation Router with one interface eth0 , to local network 10.123.0.0/16 on a local network ADSL modem with IP 10.123.10.11 I want to use 10.123.10.11 as a connection to internet . Because of that I have created default route "ip route add default via 10.123.10.1

Trouble with graphics on installing Fedora 12 ppc (early PowerMac G4)

2010-01-10 Thread William M. Quarles
Hi all, I'm having trouble with using the Fedora 12 installation CDs on my new-old PowerMac G4 that I have acquired. It has a ATI Radeon AGP card installed, and I'm using a DVI connection to my monitor. Once I get to the graphical install screen, the installation program's box on the screen is

Re: Problems with ATI Raden 4550 dirver

2010-01-10 Thread François Cami
Hi, On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:48:02 + Tim and Alison Bentley wrote: >I have let Fedora install the packages it wants and I have added the >mesa-dri-drivers-experimental package. The mesa-dri-drivers-experimental package is only needed for 3D (OpenGL) support, not for general usage. >

FC12 battery information

2010-01-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I just got a BIG 9 cell battery for my HP nc2400. Before I had an old 3 cell battery that was only good for 1 hr. So the system is charging and Fedora is reporting the battery is 100% charge. The battery info is now reading 70.3 Wh with a design charge of 12.7 Wh (the old battery was labeled

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Ed Greshko
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 01/10/2010 04:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Not sure why you'd characterize my message as "hasty". Unless you are >> staying that in order for it not be be hasty I'd have to somehow do >> research on who Jon Stanley is and what he is doing to migrate the >> list. I s

Can't get rid of WindowsXP network on Fedora !?!

2010-01-10 Thread William Case
Hi; A long dead WindowsXP + Linux network keeps showing up. ]$ nautilus --no-desktop network: command produces a nautilus window titled Network showing an icon for 'Windows Network' When clicked on 'Windows Network' warns "Unable to mount location Failed to retrieve share list from se

Re: entropy

2010-01-10 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
The Physics collaboration I was with at CERN a while back used a radioactive source and a Geiger counter to seed the random number generator used for their Monte Carlo simulations of the experiment's particle detector. High-quality randomness is important for such an application because the detect

Problems with ATI Raden 4550 dirver

2010-01-10 Thread Tim and Alison Bentley
I have let Fedora install the packages it wants and I have added the mesa-dri-drivers-experimental package. I still cannot get and flashy graphics to work, KDM now flashes a rainbow when it starts. I am sure I have missed something but not sure what. I do not want to install the

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 01/10/2010 04:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Not sure why you'd characterize my message as "hasty". Unless you are > staying that in order for it not be be hasty I'd have to somehow do > research on who Jon Stanley is and what he is doing to migrate the > list. I suppose I didn't know that was v

[no subject]

2010-01-10 Thread Klaus Ramelow
-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Ed Greshko
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 01/10/2010 03:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> I was "generally" polite. Why are you making a big deal out of this? >> Haven't gotten enough sleep? >> >> I didn't know who the guy was that sent the test message >> >> But, FWIW, if I were the person sending the "o

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 01/10/2010 03:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I was "generally" polite. Why are you making a big deal out of this? > Haven't gotten enough sleep? > > I didn't know who the guy was that sent the test message > > But, FWIW, if I were the person sending the "official" test message I > would h

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 01/10/2010 03:44 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > >> AIUI, Jon is involved in the process of moving the mailing lists over to >> *.fedoraproject.org. His test messages are checking whether the new >> mailing lists are configured correctly, whe

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Ed Greshko
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 01/10/2010 03:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > >>> >>> >> That is all well and good But, don't *expect* me or anyone else to >> be aware of that. >> > > Now that you have been made aware of it, I encourage you to not assume > that the other person has

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Jon Stanley
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > AIUI, Jon is involved in the process of moving the mailing lists over to > *.fedoraproject.org.  His test messages are checking whether the new > mailing lists are configured correctly, whereas a test message from you > or me would be chec

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 01/10/2010 03:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> > That is all well and good But, don't *expect* me or anyone else to > be aware of that. Now that you have been made aware of it, I encourage you to not assume that the other person has not read the emails and generally be polite about such

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Ed Greshko
Jonathan Dieter wrote: > On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 17:56 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Jon Stanley wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Kavon Farvardin wrote: >>> >>> I wonder how you got through my inbox filters…. Mailing list emails always ended up in the right

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 17:56 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Jon Stanley wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Kavon Farvardin wrote: > > > >> I wonder how you got through my inbox filters…. Mailing list emails always > >> ended up in the right folder. > >> > > > > Very likely because the

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Ed Greshko
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 01/10/2010 03:26 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Jon Stanley wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Kavon Farvardin wrote: >>> >>> I wonder how you got through my inbox filters…. Mailing list emails always ended up in the right folder.

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 01/10/2010 03:26 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Jon Stanley wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Kavon Farvardin wrote: >> >>> I wonder how you got through my inbox filters…. Mailing list emails always >>> ended up in the right folder. >>> >> >> Very likely because the list address chang

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Ed Greshko
Jon Stanley wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Kavon Farvardin wrote: > >> I wonder how you got through my inbox filters…. Mailing list emails always >> ended up in the right folder. >> > > Very likely because the list address changed - see > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail

Re: Fedora 12 - how to mount a CDROM to use on a remote desktop?

2010-01-10 Thread Ed Greshko
KC8LDO wrote: > This likely has a simple answer, but I haven't figured it out yet. How > do you get a CDROM, or DVD, to mount automatically for access? I want > this done when a user is working remotely, using a VNC connection. > Seems to work for a locally connected console. On Fedora 11 I had to

Re: test

2010-01-10 Thread Jon Stanley
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:47 AM, Kavon Farvardin wrote: > I wonder how you got through my inbox filters…. Mailing list emails always > ended up in the right folder. Very likely because the list address changed - see http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-January/097844.html. Users wh

RE: test

2010-01-10 Thread Kavon Farvardin
I wonder how you got through my inbox filters.. Mailing list emails always ended up in the right folder. From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Jon Stanley Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:27 AM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org S