Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Ron Croonenberg wrote: > > This is just a bunch of hardware, with connections between it's nodes. > The whole thing/cluster is not connected to anything 'internet', not even > LAN. I worry about those connections being secure as much as I worry about > security be

[users@httpd] HTTP Web Page and Load Balancer to Tomcat

2015-12-08 Thread Bumbernick, Tom
We are attempting to do two functions with our HTTP Server (Version 2.4): 1. Load Balance (mod_proxy balancer) workload to two Tomcat servers (version 8) 2. Be able to route a request to Tomcat to serve up a web page. The two URLS are configured in Tomcat to execute the functions are

[users@httpd] Apache 2.2, mod_perl on windows 10. Help needed

2015-12-08 Thread Anna Harris
Trying to set up a local environment for web application that we support. windows 10 OS Apache 2.2 installed. (win32) Mod_perl 5.12 installed. (win32) Strawberry perl 5.12 installed. (win32) Can successfully run a simple Hello.pm from localhost/hello with these configurations in http.conf, indica

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Eric Covener
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Eric Covener wrote: > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Ron Croonenberg wrote: >> also, " ... cipher strings are complex and we're protecting people from >> inadvertently .. " .. that is why we have MS-windows and Mac-OS out >> there. Most Linux installations are

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Eric Covener
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Ron Croonenberg wrote: > also, " ... cipher strings are complex and we're protecting people from > inadvertently .. " .. that is why we have MS-windows and Mac-OS out > there. Most Linux installations are work horses, mostly run by people that > know what they ar

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Ron Croonenberg
There are a bunch of applications for using http with encrypted authentication without encrypted data. For example, in 'cloud computing application' (which what I am build somewhat is), you want password protection/checking for checking at a different stage. However if you have to move TBs

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Ron Croonenberg
I think a bunch of people confuse "network" with "world wide web" The thing I am building is an appliance, it uses an internal network and it is not connected to anything 'internet', WAN or 'LAN' It is storage, sort of a file system, I worry about security of that internal network as much as

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Ron Croonenberg
what if one simply doesn't care if the data is encrypted during transmission?. The data I move to an object store, basically files, could already be stored encrypted. Also, hardware encrypters don't have a need for encrypting data again. Encrypting it again is just a waste of A LOT of bandwith

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Eric Covener
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Eric Covener wrote: > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Ron Croonenberg wrote: >> P.S: why not make it an option that can be configured and where the default >> 'setting' is "no NULL ciphers" ? > > I think the rational ie that the cipher strings are complex and we'

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Eric Covener
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Ron Croonenberg wrote: > P.S: why not make it an option that can be configured and where the default > 'setting' is "no NULL ciphers" ? I think the rational ie that the cipher strings are complex and we're protecting people from inadvertently enabling null and ex

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Jacob Champion
On 12/07/2015 09:54 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: On Dec 7, 2015 11:36 PM, "Marat Khalili" mailto:m...@rqc.ru>> wrote: >> >> Everything *after* that handshake, in cleartext, is open for inspection or for manipulation > > Are you sure about the manipulation part? Why do you think encryption hel

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Marat Khalili
Can't you just use stunnel for the TLS part? According to some information on the net it can be configured to use null cipher without recompilation. IMO it should be compatible with 'normal' HTTPS, save for things like virtualhost name extension. If HTTPS compatibility matters to you at all, bec

RE: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread IdealGourmet
This is an error email !! don’t send more email here !! De: William A Rowe Jr [mailto:wr...@rowe-clan.net] Enviado el: mardi 8 décembre 2015 18:36 Para: users@httpd.apache.org Asunto: Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Ron Croonenberg wrote: > I forgot, is there a "standard way" to create an rpm so I can install the > binaries somewhere? > Well, all the major linux distributions have their own forks, their own 'one right way' to package rpm/deb/etc, but have a look in the buil

RE: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread IdealGourmet
You make an error, don't send more email here please -Mensaje original- De: Ron Croonenberg [mailto:r...@lanl.gov] Enviado el: mardi 8 décembre 2015 17:46 Para: users@httpd.apache.org Asunto: Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https I forgot, is there

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Ron Croonenberg
I forgot, is there a "standard way" to create an rpm so I can install the binaries somewhere? thanks, Ron On 12/08/2015 09:41 AM, Ron Croonenberg wrote: so in the source tree: modules/ssl in: ssl_engine_config.c I see two lines: arg = apr_pstrcat(cmd->pool, "!aNULL:!eNULL:!EXP:", arg, NU

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Ron Croonenberg
so in the source tree: modules/ssl in: ssl_engine_config.c I see two lines: arg = apr_pstrcat(cmd->pool, "!aNULL:!eNULL:!EXP:", arg, NULL); and tossed eNULL out in: ssl_engine_init.c I see a line: apr_pstrcat(ptemp, "!aNULL:!eNULL:!EXP:", SSL_DEFAULT_CIPHER_LIST, these 3 locations are the on

[users@httpd] Mod_Proxy and Mod_Evasive

2015-12-08 Thread George Genovezos
Hi all, I’m trying to redirect block and redirect traffic with Mod_evasive and mod_proxy. I can get either one of those components working individuals, but when both are combined only mod_proxy appears to be working with this config. proxy.conf ProxyPreserveHost On ProxyRequests On

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Ron Croonenberg
It should be straightforward to patch mod_ssl to accept null ciphers, for such an unusual use case, but it isn't something we would likely accept in the ASF distribution for the reasons I outlined. that would be fine, this is cluster that needs to move a lot data internally in a very short am

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Ron Croonenberg
consider it an appliance, there are no user on this IB-fabric/network just machines with no users/logins that communicate with each other. I am looking for speed at this point, safety is not a concern, I can solve that otherwise later. Besides, I am trying to have a discussion about if some

Re: [users@httpd] explicitly including other ciphers for use with https

2015-12-08 Thread Ron Croonenberg
Ok, I want to use encrypted authentication BUT do not want to use any encryption of the data at all. I do have 100% control over all off the IB fabric (and it is not in 'user space', consider it an appliance' this will be running on. I am not interested in something secure at this point, I a

[users@httpd] Re: Apache logs not working properly with mod_remoteip and X-forwarded-for

2015-12-08 Thread georgi....@gmail.com
Also I would like to ask you if by this way I just lie only the logs, or everything will works and with the other services like awstatus, server-status etc. On 12/08/2015 12:42 PM, georgi@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am using varnish which send x-forwarded-for to apache 2.4 and on the apache

[users@httpd] Apache logs not working properly with mod_remoteip and X-forwarded-for

2015-12-08 Thread georgi....@gmail.com
Hello, I am using varnish which send x-forwarded-for to apache 2.4 and on the apache site i have mod_remoteip with the following configuration: RemoteIPHeader X-Forwarded-For RemoteIPInternalProxy 77.77.77.77 RemoteIPInternalProxy 127.0.0.1 On 2.2 with rpaf module eveything is ok without chang