Hi Peter,
Can you take another look at this? I apologize that I did not point
it out in the original email, but the problem is specifically with
older JVM's such as JDK1.3.1. I happened to be using it for building
the project where I found the problem. I just didn't realize it was
specifi
> -Original Message-
> From: Hans Schwaebli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:56 PM
> To: Ant Users List
> Subject: RE: Python implementation for Ant
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> Maybe you would start thinking about it if you would see a
> comparsion how build scripts looks like wi
Maybe this can help a lot with tool support. But these tools must be offered
everywhere, in Eclipse, in IntelliJ Idea, in JDeveloper, in Borland, in
NetBeans and so on. Every vendor must implement such tool support. This is a
lot of work to be done on many places, basically the same work.
Eclip
Okay, you seem to be right. I mixed it with Java.
James Abley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I only have limited scripting language
experience (Python, Perl, Ruby
and Groovy) but normally a variable not being set would show up at
runtime, rather than compile time? Discuss.
;-)
Hans Schwaebli wro
I think it really depends on the implementation. A BASH script doesnt complain
when a variable isn't set...its just not set...no apparent errors other than
odd side effects...
I would think, with this argument, one could do a 2 pass parse of the Ant
script first...
I think its really all in t
Hans:
I see your point but disagree... Ant comes with a handy tag - thus
allowing reuse. I spent the good part of last year off and on working on a
completely reusable build environment...basically after finding myself grabbing
my build files and hacking away on them for each project (sloppy
I only have limited scripting language experience (Python, Perl, Ruby
and Groovy) but normally a variable not being set would show up at
runtime, rather than compile time? Discuss.
;-)
Hans Schwaebli wrote:
A side effect of the make files is its platform dependence. And there had been
other
A side effect of the make files is its platform dependence. And there had been
other problems I read, like a space character causing a bug and you needed lot
of time to find these bugs. Concerning bugs I can tell my own story with the
way Ant files are written. If a variable is not set, a compil
Because I really needed it, I started to use these Ant tasks from 3rd party
addons:
- try-catch
- if-else
- var (for using variables and not constants)
- loops
Most scripting languages supports these things natively.
I had sometimes problems with logging and needed to write a own task for
chan
Interesting article. I bookmarked it and will read it later.
Two years ago I had to use Ant a lot for building our application. This is much
complexer than just copying and compiling.
I started to discuss the uglyness of XML for Ant in the Sun Java forum.
Nonetheless I used Ant without much hat
It is too verbose for me. I compare it using a fork to comb hair. I am not
opposed against a fork and not against hair and combing but I am opposed to use
a fork for this instead of a comb. Writing build scripts in a XML format is for
me a little bit like combing hair with a fork. Of course you
Maybe you would start thinking about it if you would see a comparsion how build
scripts looks like with XML and how they would look like in Jython... And don't
forget the effect of habit on opinion. For example the QWERTY layout was
invented to slow down typing because the typewriters damaged if
You should look at the selectors in ant 1.7 (1.62?) they should allow you to
build the fileset by using the selector in the
fileset.
Mikael Sitruk-2 wrote:
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> Hi
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> Is it possible to select a set of files from several directories only if
> they are not present in another set of d
On 2/8/07, THARP, JOSHUA L, TCORP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does anyone know if the same methods for adding junit.jar to the
classpath are true for JDepend using ANT 1.7?
No, it is not yet implemented.
Peter
I've tried adding a
jdepend-2.9.jar classpath entry to invocation of the jdepend tas
Disclaimer: This is for a J2ME porting system so it has some odd
requirements.
Thats a good suggestion for most projects but in this case the code in each
of the trees is not a compilable unit, I need the source files from all the
trees to get it to compile. I also have to do preproccessing on th
Does anyone know if the same methods for adding junit.jar to the
classpath are true for JDepend using ANT 1.7? I've tried adding a
jdepend-2.9.jar classpath entry to invocation of the jdepend task, but
get the standard, "failed to create task or type jdepend," message.
Here's my task. I did dou
Peter:
That's a good point regarding Makefiles (I was simply thinking of scripting)...
There was a time "loved" writing Makefiles...uhm...not anymore ;)
Regardless...I still think XML as a markup is more than tolerable...I don't see
the issues with it at all. I mean, I like Java but I don't
On 2/8/07, Matt Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Here's a link to Terence Parr's "Humans should not
have to grok XML" article:
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-sbxml.html
In it he explains the distinction between XML as a
data representation format, the use for which it was
Matt:
Interesting read...
I certainly do see the points being made...but for me, XML is just another
syntax - no different than understanding a Java class syntax, C++, BASH, SQL,
etc, etc, etc...
Because the markup is fairly fixed I actually find it easier to remember the
notation (thats just
Matt:
Interesting read...
I certainly do see the points being made...but for me, XML is just another
syntax - no different than understanding a Java class syntax, C++, BASH, SQL,
etc, etc, etc...
Because the markup is fairly fixed I actually find it easier to remember the
notation (thats just
Here's a link to Terence Parr's "Humans should not
have to grok XML" article:
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-sbxml.html
In it he explains the distinction between XML as a
data representation format, the use for which it was
AFAIK intended, vs. as an explicit interface for hum
I'd have to agree with Rob... Have you ever looked at Voice XML? It took is
scripting but using XML as the "markup" language
What is your aversion to XML with regards to it as a scripting language? I
personally like it...
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> From: cprice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:37 PM
> To: user@ant.apache.org
> Subject: Ant sshexec random failuresrun a fai
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> Hi there;
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> I run a deploy system using ant with sshexec and scp. My
> deploy consists of
> sshex
> -Original Message-
> From: Hans Schwaebli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:23 PM
> To: Ant Users List
> Subject: Re: Python implementation for Ant
>
> I reply to all of you here.
>
> For me it does not matter so much, if Ant's XML is replaced
> by
Visual SlickEdit is my preferred XML editor. It works quite well. It
provides configurable syntax-driven prompting, auto-completion of
matching closing statements, "pretty-printing", syntax-specific
coloring, and keyword (e.g., element and attribute) prompting. The
latter requires a DTD. Th
> -Original Message-
> From: Hans Schwaebli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:01 AM
> To: Ant Users List
> Subject: Python implementation for Ant
>
> What do you think about the XML format used for writing Ant
> scripts? I don't like it.
>
> What abou
Just to add a third-party opinion from a neophyte Ant user experienced
in make and other build systems:
I appreciated the declarative, as opposed to procedural, nature of Ant.
The procedural nature of traditional build tools (scripts, make, etc.)
is the very reason they become so fragile with
can't find it in my mails, but there's a hack for this. Depending on
your database, you should be able to tell it *not* to write that info at
the end (something like "set nocount" on oracle). Search the archives,
it's come up before...
/t
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>From: Steve Loughran [mailto
Hans Schwaebli wrote:
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I have a SQL query which returns one result like 388291. I want to use that
result as a property.
How can this be done in Ant?
In a script language like Python (haha) this is no problem. But how to solve it with Ant?
If I use the SQL-Task I only can writ
On 2/8/07, Hans Schwaebli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a SQL query which returns one result like 388291. I want to use that
result as a property.
How can this be done in Ant?
In a script language like Python (haha) this is no problem. But how to solve
it with Ant?
If I use the SQL
Hi Hans,
Can you rewrite your query so that it will produce output like
PropertyName=388291
0 rows affected
(e.g. you might write SELECT 'PropertyName=' || (your original column)
FROM ...)
Then you can write that output to a file and use
to read it into a property (the "0 rows affected" line
I have a SQL query which returns one result like 388291. I want to use that
result as a property.
How can this be done in Ant?
In a script language like Python (haha) this is no problem. But how to solve
it with Ant?
If I use the SQL-Task I only can write the result to disk. It
In JEdit, it is specifically the XML Plugin that provides build.xml
completion. I submitted a patch to them in the beginning of the year
that updates the ant support of that plugin by using a custom ant task
based on AntStructure. If you build your own XML Plugin from source,
using this new task,
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