[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-05 Thread Martin Pitt
We can't set turn_on_external_monitors_at_startup to True again. We already had that, and it causes external monitors to get powered off. This means that you can't use a docked laptop with an external monitor any more, since we don't have any cleverness to detect whether the lid is closed at startu

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-04 Thread Martin Pitt
Just confirming, for me the bug manifests differently: I have a 1280x1024 external monitor, and X starts in that mode (with a little help in xorg.conf). However, g-s-d tries to be too clever and switches it to 1024x768, presumably because xrandr thinks that this is the highest common resolution wit

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-04 Thread Erick Brunzell
No doubt there are many related bugs, some may be duplicates, others not. I'm certainly not sure. But we're a few days from iso-testing, and one week from final. Do we actually plan to release with this bug? Should we not at least have some coherent reference in the release notes? If we release

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-04 Thread Hernando Torque
Feel free to rename the bug title as it doesn't seem to fit anymore. :-) -- Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/640807 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
bug bug #638680 seems similar as well -- Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/640807 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://list

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
which is bug #314057 on launchpad -- Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/640807 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ub

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
one part of the issue could also be https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572502 "gnome-display-properties should pick the preferred xrandr mode" -- Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/640807 You received this bug notification because you are a member of U

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
upstream comment from an IRC discussion about the issue "I'll happily include a patch that makes the boot-time configuration conditional with some use_boot_time_configuration key or something reasonably-named use_boot_time_configuration or use_xorg_configuration (the reverse)?

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
the gsd-xrandr-manager.c code has "if (!apply_stored_configuration_at_startup (manager, GDK_CURRENT_TIME)) /* we don't have a real timestamp at startup anyway */ if (!apply_default_configuration_from_file (manager, GDK_CURRENT_TIME)) apply_default_

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
> I'm just trying to show that this effects a lot of different hardware and I do see this as a true "show-stopper"! How do you know that? How much hardware did you try? How do you know if doesn't do better job on some configurations and breaks some others? What solution do you suggest? Changing t

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-04 Thread Steve Langasek
Subscribing ubuntu-release instead of myself; Erick, I'm no longer the Ubuntu release manager, so please use the role account instead for issues such as this. -- Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/640807 You received this bug notification because you are a memb

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-04 Thread Erick Brunzell
I filed a new one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/654660 Not to be a pain in the rear but I didn't see an exact parallel to what I've experienced, and I thought it couldn't hurt to gather info. I'm just trying to show that this effects a lot of different hardware and I do se

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-02 Thread Tormod Volden
Note also that before bug 646076 gets fixed, the user can not make any system-wide screen settings. The recent g-s-d change also made bug 641525, bug 645377 and bug 646474 appear, but I am not marking them as duplicates since I believe xorg is generating wrong modes in these cases which should be

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-01 Thread Bryce Harrington
** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Sebastien Bacher (seb128) -- Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/640807 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- u

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-10-01 Thread Tormod Volden
We had a discussion on IRC #ubuntu-x right now, and the consensus was that by default, g-s-d should not turn external screens on or off, but leave it the way the X server has set it up. If the user later configures things on/off these settings will be applied next time. The issues in this bug repo

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-30 Thread Erick Brunzell
First of all, apologies in advance for subscribing Steve Langasek w/o permission but I have concerns regarding this NOT being included in the release notes for the RC. Is it ever allowable to edit the release notes? You'll notice that I also marked both #643118 and #649534 as duplicates of this bu

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-30 Thread Tormod Volden
In bug 643118 the consequences are more serious, because g-s-d picks an unsupported mode instead of the preferred one, and the display is messed up. I understand the driver should not suggest broken modes, but what is g-s-d trying to do anyway? Should it not just keep the preferred mode that the X

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-28 Thread Erick Brunzell
Is there anyway I could determine what the default settings are once I've hit the "wall" in the live CD? I fiddled around in that "working" Maverick and rolled back all old kernels: Start-Date: 2010-09-28 15:55:18 Commandline: /usr/sbin/synaptic Remove: linux-headers-2.6.35-14:i386 (2.6.35-14.20

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-28 Thread sdowney717
happens to me ion the latest .run file from Nvidia always resets to 60 on the refresh in var.log.xorg.o.log note last line 37888.571] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1600x1200_60" [ 37945.013] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1600x1200_85+0+0" which one is which one, I see a 60 and I see an 85?? [ 3

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-28 Thread Erick Brunzell
Just thought I should add that I currently have no router so I can't ssh the sick "box" but I should be able to access the sick OS using a chroot from the same box if that's helpful. -- Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/640807 You received this bug notificatio

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-28 Thread Erick Brunzell
Sorry to be slow but after trying the RC iso-testing i386 Live CD and seeing the "out-of-range" error I decided to jump into upgrade testing. I had been going to upgrade a highly modified Lucid, but due to this bug I decided to spend the extra time to install and update a fresh 10.04.1, and then pe

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-28 Thread Hernando Torque
Nothing new in the log. I too think that g-s-d isn't the problem but rather triggering the behavior. Thing is, without a xorg.conf I only can chose between low/safe resolutions. With Nvidia's BLOB it's enough to add horizontal and vertical refresh rates, with Nouveau I also need to provide a model

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-28 Thread Sebastien Bacher
you can run "sudo touch /var/lib/gdm/gsd-debug-randr" and restart gdm and you will get a debug log /var/lib/gdm/gsd-debug-randr.log with details on what g-s-d is doing -- Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/640807 You received this bug notification because you a

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-28 Thread Sebastien Bacher
without that option turned on some configurations have no active screens (ie docked laptop with lid closed for example), the configuration g-s-d applies should be valid, it seems rather an xorg or xrandr bug -- Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/640807 You rece

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-28 Thread Ubuntu QA Website
** Tags added: iso-testing -- Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/640807 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.co

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-28 Thread Hernando Torque
I forgot, you also need to disable this option for the user ('sudo -u gdm' will only deal with the gdm login screen): gconftool-2 --type bool -s "/apps/gnome_settings_daemon/xrandr/turn_on_external_monitors_at_startup" false I guess the easiest way to find out if you are affected by this bug is,

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-27 Thread Erick Brunzell
I have tried several times with todays and 9-24's Live CD's removing "quiet splash" which then drops me in a TTY, and then very carefully typing "sudo -u gdm gconftool-2 --type bool -s "/apps/gnome_settings_daemon/xrandr/turn_on_external_monitors_at_startup" false" followed by "sudo restart gdm" an

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-27 Thread Erick Brunzell
Oops, This: "however I've tried the Live CD with many options including "nomodeset" and "i915.modeset=1" which both result in the "out-of-range" error, and also "i915.modeset=1" which drops me to a TTY, and if I try startx I just get the error "Fatal server error: no screens found"." Should say:

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-27 Thread Erick Brunzell
I'm also effected by this bug, but with quite different symptoms. I also know this is quite long so I'll try to break things up very well. First of all the hardware involved is Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) with a Hanns-G 22" LCD. That same hardware has w

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-27 Thread Erick Brunzell
** Changed in: gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/640807 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list u

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-17 Thread Hernando Torque
Ok, so this seems to have been triggered by the change in defaults in version 2.31.91-0ubuntu3 (turn on ext. monitors). Setting 'apps/gnome_settings_daemon/xrandr/turn_on_external_monitors_at_startup' to false for the user gdm made this bug go away in the current version. That key has been introdu

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-17 Thread Hernando Torque
** Description changed: Binary package hint: gnome-settings-daemon - Starting with version 2.31.91-0ubuntu2, my CRT monitor starts with a + Starting with version 2.31.91-0ubuntu1, my CRT monitor starts with a refresh rate of 60 Hz (overriding the 75 Hz set in xorg.conf). Using nvidia-sett

[Bug 640807] Re: Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor

2010-09-16 Thread Hernando Torque
** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/640807/+attachment/1595316/+files/Dependencies.txt -- Forces low refresh rate on CRT monitor https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/640807 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is sub