Still reproduced at 13.04
Didn't make a screenshot while updating, however when running
#apt-get upgrade
I got a curses window with 'It's a good idea to install grub to every
partition'.
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For Wubi, let's please make this bug 581760.
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@Erick, sorry can't help you with your wubi problem. It's always just
worked for me - on a variety of machines. While I can and do pass on
known fixes to others, I haven't come across a known fix or workaround
to your issue. I suppose you could install 9.10 wubi and upgrade to
10.04. It's a pain, b
It sounds like my best option is to wait until after the new 10.04.1 CDs
and USB keys are available, then buy them from said vendor; do my
upgrades from supplied media...
What advice is usually given to non-technical users when it comes to
major updates like this? Or should I do something like -
@ Alex Cockell,
Sorry to take so long but I've had precious little time to spend at my
desk. First of all regarding this, "the only option being to send it
back to the vendor to fix it", if you don't have any Ubuntu Live media
that might be true but you really should have Live Media that will work
I don;'t intend to replace the OS on my R61i until the Ubuntu 10.04
service pack comes out mid-August...
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@Erick,
As yet, I don't know. I Am currently using a Thinkpad R61i as supplied
by Linux Emporium with 8.04, and an Ideapad S12 - as supplied with 9.10
and 10.04dev (10.04dev on a separate partition, which I accepted updates
to - although I am generally using the 9.10 instance). All I've done so
@ bcbc,
Regarding this:
"It also affects non-wubi installs, by replacing the grub bootloader
with what it figures is the correct target, but it sometimes gets it
wrong. In one case, the uuid was invalid. In another, it seemed to be
pointing at the right partition (but bootinfoscript is not clear
@ Alex Cockell,
I took the liberty to subscribe you since you asked a question. First of
all I'm not a developer but rather just an end user ;^/
That said the new behavior should show only the mbr's of all drives
(both internal and external), and also the partition that Ubuntu's
"/boot" lives in.
I have to ask - what about people who bought their computer preinstalled
with Ubuntu? Like me, for instance?
How on earth am I supposed to know what options to accept?
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I finally got to test the grub update. Before with wubi, when it
prompted the checkbox 'skip installing grub' you had to check the box to
go forward. Now, if you don't check the box, when you click on Forward,
it goes back to the select a device to install grub screen that had been
suppressed, and
@takkat - in any case, this is splitting hairs, more typical of a
bureaucracy - the same developer is responsible and can see the issue
whether it came in duplicate with a shiny red stamp or not. At the end
of the day, my job (as I see it) is to let them know they've made a
mistake. Then they can f
It also affects non-wubi installs, by replacing the grub bootloader with
what it figures is the correct target, but it sometimes gets it wrong.
In one case, the uuid was invalid. In another, it seemed to be pointing
at the right partition (but bootinfoscript is not clear on this - it
says 'partitio
New bug is a good idea. Colin already made his point on this (#54).
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I created a new bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/610898
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They're coming slow, but steady...
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1540744
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1540772
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1539672
The person with the netbook is affected worse as they can't just insert
their windows dvd to repair.
I think it's
>From what I can gather, the users are not selecting to install grub to
the MBR. They recall a grub popup during the updates, but did not click
on any checkboxes. Haven't been able to figure out if it's always a
'separate partition install' but that's my suspicion.
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I'm NOT progressing well at all!
I just let Wubi do it's "automatic download thing" rather than using a
local image or disc. After completing I just get the not so uncommon
"unrecoverable error" message while trying to boot Ubuntu from the Win
XP menu.
I'll delete that Wubi install from Win and t
Thanks Erick.
I don't have my test computer with me, and I don't want to try it on my
netbook (I need it functional for work while I am away) until I can
confirm that there is a grub prompt involved. The only feedback I've had
couldn't recall selecting any drives, so I am not sure if this runs
beh
@ bcbc,
I'll break out an old Win XP computer and try a Wubi install followed by
these updates. It may take quite a while because my house is in total
disarray (remodeling), and I'll want to update XP first which could take
quite a while because I think it's been about 6 months since it was last
u
I have started seeing wubi users overwriting their MBR with grub2 after
running the latest updates - probably this patch. It's not clear yet
whether they are prompted to select the drive or it's doing it
automatically - I am trying to get feedback - but either way this seems
to be a continuation of
This bug was fixed in the package grub2 - 1.98-1ubuntu7
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* Update harmfully incorrect German translation of menu legend, which
omitted mention of pressing Ctrl-x to boot (LP: #580178).
* Rearrange postinst install_devices lo
Sorry Colin, I figured this out just moments ago, and feel like a real
dunce.
When I was considering using my other computer (necessitating data
transfer) I decided to give ubuntuone a "first look", decided it
wouldn't do exactly what I wanted, just used an external drive, etc.
So the entire "key
There seems no reason to believe that bug 529338 is connected to this
bug; as you suggest, it seems overwhelmingly likely to be coincidental.
I'd suggest continuing investigation on that bug.
Thanks again for your diligent testing; this all seems as expected
(notwithstanding dino99's comments, whi
OK, I'm sure I'm the last person in the world that anyone wants to hear
from but here I am :^)
I was wrong about the drive being the only commonality, the other was
the file system:
la...@lance-desktop:~$ sudo parted /dev/sda print
Model: ATA WDC WD5000AAKS-0 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 500GB
Sector si
Following up again. I've also encountered bug #529338 in Maverick now,
but only the Maverick on /dev/sda1, NOT the one on /dev/sdb6. Odd I
know??? Both are updated to your new grub packages.
In Lucid things are similar, I have that bug in the Lucid on /dev/sda3,
but NOT the Lucid on /dev/sdb3 that
Just following up here, I'm sure you saw my comment #5 in bug #580408
which also applies here.
I had encountered one problem that I suspected was unrelated to these
proposed updates, and I still believe it's unrelated. When performing
the initial test described in comment #70 above I was asleep at
Just an update on where I'm at with this. I'm still several hours away
from the "prescribed test cases" but while taking a break I booted into
my installed "stable" Lucid and installed the proposed updates. All went
well.
I was first presented with the common options regarding "command line"
and "
I like the way this looks in Maverick after running "dpkg-reconfigure
grub-pc". It displayed only /dev/sda, /dev/sda1 (which is Mavericks /
partition), and /dev/sdb. None were selected, which is correct since I'm
using my Karmic's grub 2 to boot. All worked well.
I'll start an installation of Karm
i've opened bug 600933
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anyway there is only one choice as this checkbox need to be checked to
goes on, so this question has no meaning at all (an other bug)
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Hi Martin,
i'm installing this update now and see that the debconf dialog box is
still so confusing:
the text is : Continue without installing GRUB ? (with the non selected
checkbox)
how people can understand that ?
Looking at "help" even dont answer this question: may i check or not to install
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Accepted grub2 into lucid-proposed, the package will build now and be
available in a few hours. Please test and give feedback here. See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to
enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!
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This bug was fixed in the package grub2 - 1.98+20100614-2ubuntu4
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* Rearrange postinst install_devices logic so that preparatory code is run
only once and the while loop only encloses actual asking of questions,
and so
Ype: your problem isn't related to this bug, so it would be best not to
try to handle it in this comment thread - we need to keep bugs focused
on a single problem, really.
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After an Wubi installed Karmic 9.10 completely updated shared on 1 hd with
windows xp I upgrade to Lucid just yesterday.
I just answered yes to all the grub updates and after this I can't boot Linux
anymore, I get a Grub prompt.
If anyone can help me out to fix it here is my thread:
http://ubunt
On Thu, Jul 01, 2010 at 03:18:03AM -, Erick Brunzell wrote:
> But I should have time to do the SRU testing for this and #580408 very
> soon (hopefully within 48 hours). Although I'm just a little unclear
> what exactly to do, sorry :^(
Note that my proposed upload hasn't yet been accepted or b
@ Colin Watson,
This looks good to me. Just so you know, I'm not intentionally ignoring
this, I'm simply buried in nightmarish completely unrelated "non-
computer" issues (remodeling) :^/
But I should have time to do the SRU testing for this and #580408 very
soon (hopefully within 48 hours). Alth
The installer forbids / and /boot from residing on FAT or NTFS, so that
should indeed be enough.
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@Colin Watson:
As long as partitions that don't make sense (e.g. NTFS) will not appear
in the list of suggested places where to install GRUB your above
procedure is to my opinion safe and will avoid most of the problems we
had. The new help text is much better.
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Colin Watson wrote: "There's no need to shout, scream, talk about how
people should resign, etc., as some people have been doing in this bug
log; that sort of thing is entirely unproductive."
Agreed, but in my defence, it seemed no one was listening. Meierfra's
bootsector web page fix has been acc
** Description changed:
Binary package hint: grub-pc
This is a horrible way to file a bug report and I'm aware of that, but
this needs to be considered.
Throughout various upgrade and/or update procedures in Ubuntu and its
variants the user gets a display asking where to install gr
** Description changed:
Binary package hint: grub-pc
This is a horrible way to file a bug report and I'm aware of that, but
this needs to be considered.
Throughout various upgrade and/or update procedures in Ubuntu and its
variants the user gets a display asking where to install gr
** Description changed:
Binary package hint: grub-pc
This is a horrible way to file a bug report and I'm aware of that, but
this needs to be considered.
- Throughout various upgrade and/or update procedures in Ubuntu and it's
+ Throughout various upgrade and/or update procedures in Ubu
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Status: Triaged => In Progress
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I slept on the problem. I think for the time being I shan't add a
warning when installing only to a partition, and I'll just keep things
simple. We'll see how it goes, and if there's still substantial
confusion evident from user reports then we can revisit this.
The current dialog looks somethin
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Update from a conversation on #grub:
Jordan_U: oh, BTW, regarding that debconf dialog that confuses so
many people: what I have in my working tree right now is a rearrangement that
offers all the disk devices, and only the partition device containing /boot
Jordan_U: does that sound reasonable
Also, I believe there are separate bugs about the problems with Wubi,
and I would like to keep that separate. (This is not me declaring that
I don't plan to fix that, or anything - it's just easier if lots of
problems aren't bundled into the one bug report.)
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There's been a lot of discussion on this bug, and I confess with
apologies that I haven't had enough time to read it all. However, I
entirely agree with Erick's original point and I intend to figure out a
way to rework this set of dialogs, since it obviously isn't working in
its current state. Th
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Status: Invalid => Triaged
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I'm glad I hadn't rebooted or changed anything yet ;^)
It's short so just using text:
grub-pc/kopt_extracted: false
grub2/kfreebsd_cmdline:
* grub-pc/install_devices:
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD5000AAKS-00V1A0_WD-WCAWF1406318
grub-pc/postrm_purge_boot_grub: false
grub-pc/disk_description:
To gather more information:
debconf-show grub-pc
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@ Steve Langasek,
I noticed in Maverick that upgrades of the packages "grub-common" and
"grub-pc" on both the 21st and 23rd resulted in Maverick's grub 2
"grabbing" the mbr of /dev/sda with no user interaction whatsoever.
To be a bit more specific I multi-boot and currently I have Karmic's
grub 2
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Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Milestone: None => ubuntu-10.04.1
** Changed in: grub2 (Ubuntu Maverick)
Milestone: ubuntu-10.04.1 => None
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Status: New => Triag
@ Steve Langasek,
Is there at least some way we could almost immediately amend the upgrade
section of the Lucid release notes?
I've also wondered if everyone shouldn't be presented with the
option/suggestion to read the release notes when they choose to
download Ubuntu from Canonical, but that's
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Importance: High
Status: Triaged
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Hi Erick,
I agree that this is an important problem to resolve, and am marking it
as such. However, I don't think I'm in a position to work on this
directly, Colin has a much better understanding of the grub2 packages
than I do - so we're still dependent on his availability in order to
resolve th
Quote from bug #1
"2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
benefits would be apparent and known by all.
3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes."
Quote from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1505663
"Lessons I've learned:
1. Av
@Darko:
> "this may lead to problems in non-standard environments"??? Excuse me,
but ANYONE able to create non-standard environment is probably able to
use any ubuntu cd, super grub, system rescue cd, or what ever and get
the system online.
There are easy to handle bootloaders other than GRUB2 ar
Stepping outside the bounds once again I decided to subscribe Steve
Langasek to this bug out of true desperation.
Please Steve can you give us some guidance in getting this fixed?
I know you're busy and I wouldn't do this if I felt it was not urgent.
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To me the easiest short term fix would be to revert to the Karmic
"behavior" which displayed only the drive designations. Since this
effects only updates/upgrades that shouldn't be too difficult since
those updates must (I assume) come from a Canonical server. One
exception might be upgrading using
@Takkat
That´s exactly the point: making it better and trouble free for non-experienced
users. This is about making ubuntu easy to use and accepted by them.
If we start thinking that the user should know what is a disk, what a partition
and what to select, going by the same logic should we drop t
Part of the problem is windows refers to drives when they really are
partitions. In windows you have a C: drive and a D: drive when you only have
one hard drive and two partitions. All those windows users that then have not
installed Ubuntu other than the auto installer really do not know about
@Takkat - I agree, let's change the help text... but let's get it done
quickly: we are still seeing people affected by this on a daily basis.
And no, it's not just inexperienced users. I've seen long-term ubuntu
users upgrading from 8.04 get hit by this. To be more precise it's users
that don't n
@Erick: Sorry if my point has been misinterpreted. Of course I did not
overlook your constructive and very precious ideas in the initial post.
I should have written 'further' ideas instead of 'any', sorry for that.
However from then on the postings basically come down to me toos and
complaints with
"As any constructive ideas are missing here", huh?
In my initial post I say:
"Consider the following options:
#1: Display nothing but drives, that is "sda", "sdb", etc, and NO
individual partitions. But create another "advanced" tab/option to allow
installation to a partition
The installer should suggest to install grub only in those places:
- the current root partition
- the MBR, but if and ONLY if during the latest configure grub was
installed to it
I can't find why grub should suggest to be installed to other partitions
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@Erick: sadly, this report is getting more and more off-topic. I doubt
any dev will find the time to go through all of this. The overall
relevance of this "bug" is also questionable as almost exclusively
people are affected that work for at least months on Ubuntu and are very
happy with it.
Again,
@ Darko D,
For about 10 to 12 days I've suffered random DSL outages. Only today I
was able to get "the right guy" on the phone, and they identified it as
their problem. So I have someone from AT&T coming tomorrow to try and
fix this.
Hopefully once my DSL is restored I can spend a bit more time a
PS. By the way I am still trying to help the person in the mentioned above
thread to get XP working again. He thinks he lost XP completely together with
all of his important files. The first repair attempts were unsuccessful.
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It's very easy to see the impact. Anyone interested needs only to visit the
forum website, and search for threads "Ubuntu upgrade destroyed my windows".
Yes, that's the publicity that ubuntu is getting. That it's destroying windows.
If that's fine for the ubuntu team Erick, who am I to complain??
@ Darko D,
I guess I should try a Wubi test on my own to be sure (I'd have to dig
out an old Win puter), but from what I've seen on the forums even Wubi
updates result in the suggestion to "install grub everywhere". Of course
in this case grub should be installed nowhere because, if as advertised,
I don't think it's only about wubi. I'm not using wubi but grub2 still
suggests to install on all devices (so it would override my windows
bootloader)
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Latest example:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1504665
The user did nothing wrong, but having wubi and grub2 overwriting his
/dev/sdc there was nothing to do. Sorry if this is not the proper place,
maybe this needs to be separate bug report for wubi.
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@ Jan Claeys,
Please tell me that your address means you might be able to get someone
to focus on this nasty, nasty bug!
While I think my description is more appropriate this is a duplicate of:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/571893
And more! But more importantly perhaps th
@Darko: Wubi is not a virtual system but a real dual boot system, the
only difference being that Ubuntu is installed and runs from a disk
image file located on your Windows disk. That said, people shouldn't be
presented with such an easy way to break their system.
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Let me add my humble opinion.
1. This confusing matter is definitely turning people away from ubuntu.
I also think the user should have some knowledge to make a difference
between a partition and a disk, or where grub2 is installed at all, but
we simply can not blame only the user. You simply can
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