[Bug 521323] Re: "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale

2010-03-23 Thread Martin Pitt
cameleon, what you have there actually is much more suitable for the photo profile. "Text" is for real (black on white) text, such as books, letters, recipes, and the like. That said, even those look pretty bad with the current monochrome mode. I think it would be much better to use at least 4 or

[Bug 521323] Re: "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale

2010-03-23 Thread cameleon
Now the same document in scanned in "Photo" mode: ** Attachment added: "Photo Scan.jpg" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/41769574/Photo%20Scan.jpg -- "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521323 You received this bug notification because you are a membe

[Bug 521323] Re: "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale

2010-03-23 Thread cameleon
I have try to scan a grayscale document in "Text" mode (black and white), the result looks horrible (look at the attachment). Only a "Photo" scan is great for this kind of document (look at next comment). So my conclusion is that a third option is needed to scan grayscale documents. ** Attachmen

[Bug 521323] Re: "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale

2010-02-22 Thread staedtler-przyborski
Scanner interfaces follow (seen over all available scanning applications) currently two paradigm: a) Give access to all possibilities the scanner offers and do lot's of postprocessing when necessary ( Silverfast is here the best applicationto mention), ideally no external application is needed to

[Bug 521323] Re: "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale

2010-02-20 Thread Robert Ancell
camelon, what is the case when you want to scan a photo in black and white? Why not just scan it in colour and then edit it in a photo-editing tool like any other photo? (because black and white is only one type of post-processing you might want to do). -- "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not

[Bug 521323] Re: "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale

2010-02-20 Thread cameleon
I think resolution and color management should be treated as two different settings, because there is the case where you want to scan photo in greyscale, or photo in color but low resolution,... -- "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521323 You receive

[Bug 521323] Re: "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale

2010-02-15 Thread Martin Pitt
In that script I also used convert -modulate 120 -level 30,60% to clean up noise on the white background (such as text on the backside shining through) as well as blackening washed out text. With that and a following pngquant 4 I have gotten quite good results. -- "Text" scan is in black-and-whit

[Bug 521323] Re: "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale

2010-02-15 Thread Martin Pitt
In my previous "scandoc" script I used pngquant to reduce the number of grey levels to 4 (i. e. black, white, dark grey, light grey). That worked well enough for me, while still keeping small file sizes. I do agree that documents with 4 or 8 gray levels are much easier to read. -- "Text" scan is

[Bug 521323] Re: "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale

2010-02-14 Thread staedtler-przyborski
Here you can read some good reasons why lineart is the better choice compared to grayscale for OCR: http://www.scantips.com/basics4f.html But (there's always a but ;-) in real life things may be different. Depending on Scanner/Driver in some cases grayscale could be the better choice. One of t

[Bug 521323] Re: "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale

2010-02-14 Thread Robert Ancell
Subscribing Martin Pitt as he is the person who has given me the most advice about simple-scan+archiving. -- "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521323 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to U

[Bug 521323] Re: "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale

2010-02-14 Thread Robert Ancell
I meant post-processable from full-colour :) In BZR trunk I've changed the default to photo, I'd expect most users will just keep to this because with JPEG compression and modern bandwidth they're not going to care much about image size. The idea of text mode is that it is used for archiving wher

[Bug 521323] Re: "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale

2010-02-14 Thread Stuart Langridge
I don't think it's post-processable - you can't go from threshold b/w to greyscale because you've already thrown away the data you need. You can post-process from greyscale to threshold, though. I would be inclined to scan text as greyscale, and then post-process to threshold b/w if the user asks f

[Bug 521323] Re: "Text" scan is in black-and-white, not greyscale

2010-02-14 Thread Robert Ancell
Yes, the scan is in black and white to compress better and make OCR easier. There's definitely got to be a case for greyscale scanning (though this could be easily done in post-processing). Question is: - Should there be three options? - Should there be a preferences to scan text in greyscale? T