[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2019-01-23 Thread Jeremy Bicha
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 778872 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/778872 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 778872 vte use causes /tmp file writing during text scrolling -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscri

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2016-04-24 Thread Vlad Orlov
** Package changed: vte (Ubuntu) => vte3 (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1430620 Title: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives) To manage notificatio

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-27 Thread Egmont Koblinger
Another week of heavily using gnome-terminal for everyday work, another 15 MB of data written. (I won't measure this anymore.) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1430620 Title: gnome-ter

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-20 Thread Egmont Koblinger
After 1 week of usage, my gnome-terminals have written a total of 48 MB. Out of this, about 40 MB was cating my favorite test file 4 times for speed measurement purposes, and the remaining about 8 MB was the normal tasks I performed, including management of several remote servers via ssh, compilati

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-13 Thread Egmont Koblinger
If it was for me, I probably would have dropped infinite scrollback support. But apparently some people find it really useful. We already have a certain code. It was designed with multiple criteria in mind, including infinite scrollback support, efficient storing on disk, compression, encryption a

Re: [Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-13 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
Swap is the equivalent of main memory: the security issues are no different. Nobody can complain about swap written to disk, as that's a risk for any piece of main memory at any time. Why turn things so far upside down to support an edge case (infinite scrollback left open for long periods of tim

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-13 Thread Egmont Koblinger
> Speed Encryption added about 10% to the required CPU usage. Now, with in- memory scrollback, would you keep it encrypted or not? If so, you'd keep wasting CPU. If not, someone will come along and complain that it's been written to disk (swap) unencrypted and it leaks data. But other apps also ca

Re: [Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
The oom killer will only come along if some epic long files have been cat'ed to the terminal, and infinite scrollback is selected. Speed, battery life, SSD life, energy use and privacy are all reasons to have the common case be no disk writes. -- You received this bug notification because you ar

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-12 Thread Egmont Koblinger
I have seen the OOM killer killing an innocent process, and other developers have expressed similar concerns too. That being said, I'm not against storing the scrollback contents in memory as a possibility, see the upstream bugreport for details. But I still can't see the SSD wear- out issue justif

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
>How do you think gnome-terminal should handle that? Suppose you have 4 GB of ram, shall it consume up to 3 GB and then >starting using the disk? Sounds not only hard to implement, but also why should it take away RAM from other apps? The Linux virtual memory system is highly adept at swapping out

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-12 Thread Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot
The attachment "Count the amount of data written to /tmp" seems to be a patch. If it isn't, please remove the "patch" flag from the attachment, remove the "patch" tag, and if you are a member of the ~ubuntu- reviewers, unsubscribe the team. [This is an automated message performed by a Launchpad u

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-12 Thread Egmont Koblinger
** Patch added: "Count the amount of data written to /tmp" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vte/+bug/1430620/+attachment/4343310/+files/vte-ubuntu1430620-count-tmp-written.patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubun

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-12 Thread Egmont Koblinger
> But I run out of ram space very rarely. Maybe because you don't allow large (let alone infinite) scrollback. > It's highly elegant to keep volatile data in RAM unless RAM is full. How do you think gnome-terminal should handle that? Suppose you have 4 GB of ram, shall it consume up to 3 GB and

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
@Egmont wrote: "Running out of disk space is much less likely and effects the system less badly than running out of RAM, and your RAM would eventually make it into the disk (swap) anyways." But I run out of ram space very rarely. It's highly elegant to keep volatile data in RAM unless RAM is fu

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-12 Thread Egmont Koblinger
With the max speed of vte measured on my computer (as I mentioned above), producing 75 TB of scrollback data takes about half a year. (With the compression, it'll be 1.5-2 years or so). Combine that with the typical load average of your terminals in the long run (including those times when the app

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-12 Thread Marti
> As for SSD lifespan: I'm not really up to date, but a quick search > suggests that it's not really an issue. It's not as simple as that; for example manufacturers like Samsung will disclaim warranties after writing more than 75 TB for smaller disks. See https://www.samsung.com/global/business/se

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-12 Thread Egmont Koblinger
Vte stores the scrollback buffer's contents on disk, that's what you see there. See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=631685, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=664611 (and maybe a few other mainstream Gnome bugreports) about discussions and rationale why this was chosen. Quick sum

[Bug 1430620] Re: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives)

2015-03-10 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
See also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1830432 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1430620 Title: gnome-terminal writes excessively to /tmp (affecting SSD drives) To manage not