Re: [Bug 1] suggested patch - search engine for "free hardware" systems

2007-07-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
> > My primary concern now is the wireless drivers. > > http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html I am familiar with this page. Good luck trying to find an actual laptop that comes with one of those cards. -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1

Re: [Bug 1] suggested patch - search engine for "free hardware" systems

2007-07-09 Thread Toni Ruottu
> My primary concern now is the wireless drivers. http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -

Re: [Bug 1] suggested patch - search engine for "free hardware" systems

2007-07-06 Thread Allen Graham
Thanks OK Amir ! Lots of us are equally curious. With the latest forays into cross-licensing and other such ilk it would seem apparent that "proprietary drivers" will be ground into dust. There are many "free" operating systems, most will just "hack' the drivers, or come up with a workaround. The

Re: [Bug 1] suggested patch - search engine for "free hardware" systems

2007-07-06 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > On 05/07/07, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Even a really good vendor like Intel still has the odd propietary blob >> (on the way out, but still there). >> > > Sorry to wander further off-topic, but this really intrigued me: > > What do you mean b

Re: [Bug 1] suggested patch - search engine for "free hardware" systems

2007-07-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
On 05/07/07, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even a really good vendor like Intel still has the odd propietary blob > (on the way out, but still there). Sorry to wander further off-topic, but this really intrigued me: What do you mean by "on the way out"? My primary concern now is

Re: [Bug 1] suggested patch - search engine for "free hardware" systems

2007-07-05 Thread Paul Flint
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, Paul Flint wrote: Note the removal of extra "certify" in first line of message... > > Dear Mark, > > How about having a division of Canonical that certifies hardware > and supporting driver software as "Ubuntu Compliant"? This could be a > supportable enterprise. Fees paid

Re: [Bug 1] suggested patch - search engine for "free hardware" systems

2007-07-05 Thread Paul Flint
Dear Mark, How about having a division of Canonical certify that certifies hardware and supporting driver software as "Ubuntu Compliant"? This could be a supportable enterprise. Fees paid by manufacturers to allow them to display the "Certified Ubuntu" product logo on their equipment might pa

Re: [Bug 1] suggested patch - search engine for "free hardware" systems

2007-07-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > What i would be happy to see is a website with a directory of laptops, > such as the www.dpreview.com directory of digital cameras, where i can > find a laptop according to its parts and EASILY filter out the non-free > ones. It's really weird that in 2007 i couldn't find s

Re: [Bug 1] suggested patch - search engine for "free hardware" systems

2007-07-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Mark - thanks for the reply! Your suggestion may work, and i may try it, but even i am embarrassed by it; note - i want to know that the system is free *before* i buy it. Theoretically i can pop a live CD in the store, but it is embarrassing and time-consuming. Being able to prepare for this befor

Re: [Bug 1] suggested patch - search engine for "free hardware" systems

2007-07-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
It's definitely important to be able to know if a device will work with free software drivers only. I think the radically-free Live CD would be one way to do it. Another might be if we build this information into the hardware device manager... perhaps just booting normal Ubuntu and running the res

[Bug 1] suggested patch - search engine for "free hardware" systems

2007-07-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Ubuntu is both a popular distribution and one that is relatively purist about Free Software. Despite that, i couldn't find an *easy* way on any Ubuntu-related website, or anywhere on the web, to test whether a computer will work with Ubuntu without the need to use restricted drivers and firmware *