Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-20 Thread Alan Gauld
On 20/07/15 04:59, boB Stepp wrote: implementing features of kivy on this list? I imagine that they would ...But I'm sure there is a kivy list somewhere I guess I will answer this question myself: I have just been skimming through the kivy docs tonight and they look to be quite good. Also,

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-19 Thread boB Stepp
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 8:23 PM, boB Stepp wrote: > Would it be off-putting later to ask specific questions about > implementing features of kivy on this list? I imagine that they would > tend to be basic questions that would probably apply to any GUI > development. But I'm sure there is a kivy

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-19 Thread boB Stepp
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 12:49:50AM -0500, boB Stepp wrote: > >> In this thread, I kept it very general on purpose. I was probing this >> community for their thoughts on two things: 1) Should I make the >> software web-based or desktop-ba

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-19 Thread Dave P
On Jul 19, 2015 5:43 AM, "Laura Creighton" wrote: > > In a message of Sun, 19 Jul 2015 16:27:13 +1000, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: > >I'm not sure if it runs on Macs, but it should work on Android, Windows, > >and Linux, and of course it is entire Python-based. > > Python 2.7 only on for MacOSX. Py

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-19 Thread boB Stepp
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:11:36 -0400, Dave P writes: >>On Jul 19, 2015 5:43 AM, "Laura Creighton" wrote: >>> >>> In a message of Sun, 19 Jul 2015 16:27:13 +1000, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: >>> >I'm not sure if it runs on Macs, bu

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-19 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sun, 19 Jul 2015 18:11:36 -0400, Dave P writes: >On Jul 19, 2015 5:43 AM, "Laura Creighton" wrote: >> >> In a message of Sun, 19 Jul 2015 16:27:13 +1000, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: >> >I'm not sure if it runs on Macs, but it should work on Android, Windows, >> >and Linux, and of cou

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-19 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sun, 19 Jul 2015 16:27:13 +1000, "Steven D'Aprano" writes: >I'm not sure if it runs on Macs, but it should work on Android, Windows, >and Linux, and of course it is entire Python-based. Python 2.7 only on for MacOSX. Python 3 is coming very soon. Laura _

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-19 Thread Alan Gauld
On 19/07/15 07:27, Steven D'Aprano wrote: If you use SQLite for the data storage, it should have a simple "dump" function that would let you export the database to a standard SQL dump format, and reconstruct the database from said dump if needed. Otherwise you would have to write your own export

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-18 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 12:49:50AM -0500, boB Stepp wrote: > In this thread, I kept it very general on purpose. I was probing this > community for their thoughts on two things: 1) Should I make the > software web-based or desktop-based? 2) What would be the best way of > handling the data invo

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-18 Thread boB Stepp
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Brandon McCaig wrote: > Rather than worrying about technology, frameworks, peripherals, > and protocols you need to focus on the real problem. Have her > describe exactly what she'll do with it. Try to get her to put it > into context of what she does NOW without

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-18 Thread Alan Gauld
On 18/07/15 04:20, boB Stepp wrote: My wife (a Montessori teacher No idea what that is but I'll assume its pretty much a regular type teacher... For her most urgent project to be done before school starts in 5 weeks For the *urgent* project I'd consider using Sqlite for the data and store

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-17 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Fri, 17 Jul 2015 23:57:01 -0500, boB Stepp writes: >But for this student assessment project, it is going to have to be >without all the desired bells and whistles to have something that will >be practically useful for her when school starts. Especially when I >am certain Vonda is s

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-17 Thread boB Stepp
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 11:18 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > I have a plug in usb keyboard that I can just plug into my tablet. > It works great for data entry... I suggested this to my wife and believe she is looking into it. However, whenever she is walking about her classroom, she does not want

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-17 Thread Laura Creighton
I have a plug in usb keyboard that I can just plug into my tablet. It works great for data entry. I don't know anything about windows tablets though, this is working for android. You need a usb port that is capable of being both a slave and a master. Most of them can do this these days -- if yo

[Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

2015-07-17 Thread boB Stepp
My wife (a Montessori teacher of 7th through 9th grades) is trying to coerce me to create some helpful software for her classroom. She has lots of things she *wants*: Some involve only her and her record keeping. Some will involve both her and students. Some would additionally involve parents.

Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?)

2013-04-20 Thread pa yo
from? On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: > > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Don Jennings wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > >>>On Apr 14, 2013, at 7:06 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>

Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?)

2013-04-20 Thread Albert-Jan Roskam
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Don Jennings wrote: > > >> >> >>>On Apr 14, 2013, at 7:06 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?) >>>> >>>> &

Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?)

2013-04-18 Thread Walter Prins
Hi, On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Don Jennings wrote: > > >> On Apr 14, 2013, at 7:06 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: >> >> >>> >>> > Subject: Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?) >>> >>>> >>>> On 13/04/13 09:48, Albert-Jan Ro

Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?)

2013-04-18 Thread Wayne Werner
On Sun, 14 Apr 2013, Don Jennings wrote: On Apr 14, 2013, at 7:06 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: > Subject: Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?) On 13/04/13 09:48, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: I think I have to make a diagram of this. This stuff is quite hard Would it also be a good i

Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?)

2013-04-14 Thread ALAN GAULD
>Would it also be a good idea to simultaneously make a paper-and-pencil drawing >of the UI? Personally I do. At work we call these UI sketches  "wireframes" >and they are used to figure  out the interaction. The focus is on the relative position of controls and the workflow for  the user rather

Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?)

2013-04-14 Thread Don Jennings
On Apr 14, 2013, at 7:06 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?) >> >> On 13/04/13 09:48, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: >> >>> I think I have to make a diagram of this. This stuff is quite hard >> >&

Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?)

2013-04-14 Thread Albert-Jan Roskam
 > Subject: Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?) > > On 13/04/13 09:48, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: > >> I think I have to make a diagram of this. This stuff is quite hard > > You could use a simple UML class diagram (class -> table). See the OOP topic > in my V

Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?)

2013-04-13 Thread Alan Gauld
On 13/04/13 09:48, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: I think I have to make a diagram of this. This stuff is quite hard You could use a simple UML class diagram (class -> table). See the OOP topic in my V3 tutorial for simple examples. Or you could use a proper entity relationship diagram(ERD) - see

Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?)

2013-04-13 Thread Albert-Jan Roskam
Hi Alan, Thanks for your reply! > Subject: Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?) > > Some clarification please. > >> (1) Database design. Here are the database tables I think are necessary: >> tblPostalcode: pc6, streetname, nHouseholds, isVisitable, remarks &

Re: [Tutor] design question (Django?)

2013-04-13 Thread Alan Gauld
Some clarification please. (1) Database design. Here are the database tables I think are necessary: tblPostalcode: pc6, streetname, nHouseholds, isVisitable, remarks tblCollectorSelection: collectorname, streetname, selectiondate streetname is in both so presumably is the link between collecto

[Tutor] design question (Django?)

2013-04-13 Thread Albert-Jan Roskam
Hi, I am doing volunteer work for a charity. The job is to coordinate money collecting activities of people who raise money with collecting-boxes. I am involved with one postal code  4 (pc4) area (our postal codes have the format 1234 AB (postal code 6). So 'one postal code 4 area'  means [0-9]

Re: [Tutor] design question

2010-09-12 Thread Alan Gauld
"Albert-Jan Roskam" wrote following classes: Menu (responsible for the widget creation), Autocomplete (a subclass of the tkinter text entry widget which I've found on the internet, I wanted to keep this intact), Convert (responsible for the conversion/cropping of the images, which is somewha

Re: [Tutor] design question

2010-09-11 Thread Albert-Jan Roskam
esh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us? ~~ From: Steven D'Aprano To: tutor@python.org Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 10:40:17 AM Subject: Re: [Tutor] desig

Re: [Tutor] design question

2010-09-11 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:11:37 am Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: > Inside my program I have to keep a list of all the image files that > are scheduled for data entry. Sounds like you need to keep a list of all the image files that are scheduled for data entry then. > The main purpose is to be able to

Re: [Tutor] design question

2010-09-11 Thread Knacktus
Am 10.09.2010 16:11, schrieb Albert-Jan Roskam: Hi Jan, Here's a screendump of my program: http://nl.tinypic.com/r/2qtlojc/7 . This might make my description a little bit clearer. The beautiful sunset will in reality be a dull, handwritten form. ;-) Regarding the iterator pattern, I was referri

Re: [Tutor] design question

2010-09-10 Thread Albert-Jan Roskam
Romans ever done for us? ~~ From: Knacktus To: tutor@python.org Sent: Fri, September 10, 2010 3:38:13 PM Subject: Re: [Tutor] design question Am 10.09.2010 11:23, schrieb Albert-Jan Roskam: > Hi, > > I've made a small data entry program where a picture of a hand-written, >

Re: [Tutor] design question

2010-09-10 Thread Knacktus
Am 10.09.2010 11:23, schrieb Albert-Jan Roskam: Hi, I've made a small data entry program where a picture of a hand-written, scanned form is shown next to several text entries. The design has been largely 'bottom up', although of course I started with a rough sketch. I started with the following

[Tutor] design question

2010-09-10 Thread Albert-Jan Roskam
Hi, I've made a small data entry program where a picture of a hand-written, scanned form is shown next to several text entries. The design has been largely 'bottom up', although of course I started with a rough sketch. I started with the following classes: Menu (responsible for the widget creat

Re: [Tutor] Design Question: File Object used everywhere

2010-05-14 Thread spir ☣
On Fri, 14 May 2010 06:49:59 +0200 Jan Jansen wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm working on a code to read and write large amounts of binary data > according to a given specification. In the specification there are a lot > of "segments" defined. The segments in turn have defintions of datatypes > and

Re: [Tutor] Design Question: File Object used everywhere

2010-05-14 Thread Dave Angel
Jan Jansen wrote: Hi there, I'm working on a code to read and write large amounts of binary data according to a given specification. In the specification there are a lot of "segments" defined. The segments in turn have defintions of datatypes and what they represent, how many of some of the d

Re: [Tutor] Design Question: File Object used everywhere

2010-05-13 Thread Luke Paireepinart
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Jan Jansen wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm working on a code to read and write large amounts of binary data > according to a given specification. In the specification there are a lot of > "segments" defined. The segments in turn have defintions of datatypes and > what

[Tutor] Design Question: File Object used everywhere

2010-05-13 Thread Jan Jansen
Hi there, I'm working on a code to read and write large amounts of binary data according to a given specification. In the specification there are a lot of "segments" defined. The segments in turn have defintions of datatypes and what they represent, how many of some of the data values are pres

Re: [Tutor] Design Question

2007-06-02 Thread David Hamilton
Thanks for the guidance! I'm glad to know my design wasn't wildly off-base. I will most likely take your advice about using pickle to implement persistence. As for old style vs new style constructors...I'm still a little fuzzy on the details, but I've done enough reading to see that new style

Re: [Tutor] Design Question

2007-06-01 Thread Mike Hansen
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Gauld > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:24 PM > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: Re: [Tutor] Design Question > > remove_question(self,question) -- returns True if the questio

Re: [Tutor] Design Question

2007-06-01 Thread Alan Gauld
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >I think I may have sent an incomplete version of this question Indeed and I andswered it! :-) > So I'm looking for comments/suggestions on the key pieces of the > design: the questions and the flash card deck: > Psudo-code of current design: > > class Deck(): Better,

Re: [Tutor] Design Question...

2007-06-01 Thread Alan Gauld
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > I'm doing the initial design for what will (hopefully) be something > like a flash-card system. This is mostly a learning exercise, > but I'm hoping the results will be at least usable. > So my question is does this class design shown > by the psudo-code below sound rea

Re: [Tutor] Design Question

2007-06-01 Thread Brian van den Broek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said unto the world upon 06/01/2007 10:46 AM: > I think I may have sent an incomplete version of this question a moment ago > (sorry). Here is the complete question: > > I'm designing something along the lines of a flash card program. It's mostly > just an exercise in learning

[Tutor] Design Question

2007-06-01 Thread dsh0105
I think I may have sent an incomplete version of this question a moment ago (sorry). Here is the complete question: I'm designing something along the lines of a flash card program. It's mostly just an exercise in learning Python, but I'd like it to be at least marginally usable when I'm done. S

[Tutor] Design Question...

2007-06-01 Thread dsh0105
I'm doing the initial design for what will (hopefully) be something like a flash-card system. This is mostly a learning exercise, but I'm hoping the results will be at least usable. So my question is does this class design shown by the psudo-code below sound reasonable? class Deck(Questions):