Re: [Tutor] __abs__() not acting as expected

2014-03-24 Thread Danny Yoo
Hi Jim, The point the book is trying to make here is purely a parsing problem. It's trying to say that the expression: -3.__abs__() has a parse tree that may be unexpected to beginners. The parse is analogous to: unary subtraction on the following: the __abs__() method

Re: [Tutor] __abs__() not acting as expected

2014-03-23 Thread Ben Finney
Dave Angel writes: > Ben is right, dunder methods don't belong in introductory texts. […] > But he didn't show you the simplest fix: > > (-3).__abs__() I disagree; the simplest fix is not to call that method directly, and just use:: abs(-3) -- \ “Computer perspective on Moore'

Re: [Tutor] __abs__() not acting as expected

2014-03-23 Thread Dave Angel
Jim Byrnes Wrote in message: > I am reading Practical Programming - An Introduction to Computer Science > Using Python 3. They give this example: > > >>> abs(-3) > 3 > > >>> -3 .__abs__() > 3 > Ben is right, dunder methods don't belong in introductory texts. And they seldom should be ca

[Tutor] __abs__() not acting as expected

2014-03-23 Thread Jim Byrnes
I am reading Practical Programming - An Introduction to Computer Science Using Python 3. They give this example: >>> abs(-3) 3 >>> -3 .__abs__() 3 When I try it in idle or a terminal I get different results. Python 3.3.5 (default, Mar 12 2014, 02:09:17) [GCC 4.6.3] on linux >>> abs(-3) 3 >