Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-20 Thread Chris Calloway
On Sep 20, 2008, at 7:51 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote: Am 20.09.2008 um 00:01 schrieb Alan Gauld: "Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote is of paramount importance. It appears to me that Django is an all- in-one monolithic application. Years ago Zope was the number 1 and now it's basically gon

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-20 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Am 20.09.2008 um 00:01 schrieb Alan Gauld: "Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote is of paramount importance. It appears to me that Django is an all- in-one monolithic application. Years ago Zope was the number 1 and now it's basically gone. Zope is still around but it has retreated into so

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Alan Gauld
"Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote is of paramount importance. It appears to me that Django is an all-in-one monolithic application. Years ago Zope was the number 1 and now it's basically gone. Zope is still around but it has retreated into something of a niche where it offers its own uniqu

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Patrick
Sorry to create another post and fill up everyones mailboxes but I forgot something important... In terms of searching for documentation I believe you should look to the framework of your choice. There is not that much non-cgi related programming documentation out there-patrick Alan Gauld wr

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Patrick
Hi Dorje and Alan First off, everything that Alan has said is true and I would like to re-iterate my lack of qualifications. I depend on people like Alan to guide me. Just a couple of days ago I posted an extremely silly question about shell programming. So having said that I think there are

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Alan Gauld
"Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote I am in the small minority of people who are don't like frameworks. There used to be a small minority of people who didn't like compiled or other high level languages. But they gradually died out... There was even a very small community who didn't like assem

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Kent Johnson
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to this article there have been changes to 350K lines of code in > Django: > http://www.djangoproject.com/weblog/2008/sep/03/1/ Note there are also 40,000 lines of new documentation. > I am sure this is an awesomely

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Chad Crabtree
Things you need to know. In order * HTML * Javascript * CGI Webscripting, this teaches you the difference between GET and POST, with this you can make simple things, like a page view counter for example, or a simple game of hangman. * Web framework or Templating language, python is not we

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Patrick
Hi Dorje I am a beginner like you, I can't provide perfect advice but I have been working through this same problem for months. If you use Python CGI you can get started right away with virtually any hosting company but the performance is terrible and the Python interpreter installed will be

Re: [Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread Hansen, Mike
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of dorje tarap > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:38 AM > To: Tutor@python.org > Subject: [Tutor] Web programming advice > > Hi All, > > I would really like to learn about using python for creati

[Tutor] Web programming advice

2008-09-19 Thread dorje tarap
Hi All, I would really like to learn about using python for creating a website from scratch to allow me to learn about web programming and python. I have zero experience of web programming, and some limited exposure to python. Can someone recommend a book or resource that will introduce me to web