* Alan Gauld [2013-05-09 16:50]:
> On 09/05/13 15:42, David Rock wrote:
>
> >> Or use emacs... :-)
> >
> > There's always one. You aren't helping the case for console apps with
> > that one at all. :-)
>
> But then emacs can also be considered an IDE in its own right so its
> maybe a special
On 09/05/13 15:42, David Rock wrote:
Or use emacs... :-)
There's always one. You aren't helping the case for console apps with
that one at all. :-)
Not necessarily since you can run emacs in a non GUI mode and create
multiple shell buffers. Each of these can be scrolled/split etc. (In
f
* Prasad, Ramit [2013-05-09 04:01]:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > On the other hand, I work with, and watch, a lot of techies who live
> > in screen. They swear that they're more efficient, but watching them
> > hunt for the right virtual terminal doesn't look very efficient to
> > me. I often see
* Alan Gauld [2013-05-09 07:47]:
> On 09/05/13 05:01, Prasad, Ramit wrote:
>
> > What I like about screen is the way sessions stay open when
> > disconnected, but I find tabbed terminals easier to scroll for
> > history. If there is a tabbed terminal that will allow split screens
> > then all the
On 05/09/2013 02:47 AM, Alan Gauld wrote:
On 09/05/13 05:01, Prasad, Ramit wrote:
What I like about screen is the way sessions stay open when
disconnected, but I find
tabbed terminals easier to scroll for history. If there is a tabbed
terminal that will allow
split screens then all the neat fea
On 09/05/13 05:01, Prasad, Ramit wrote:
What I like about screen is the way sessions stay open when disconnected, but I
find
tabbed terminals easier to scroll for history. If there is a tabbed terminal
that will allow
split screens then all the neat features I know about in screen would
exist
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On the other hand, I work with, and watch, a lot of techies who live in
> screen. They swear that
> they're more efficient, but watching them hunt for the right virtual terminal
> doesn't look very
> efficient to me. I often see them flip through three or four different V
* Steven D'Aprano [2013-05-09 10:29]:
> On 09/05/13 02:57, David Rock wrote:
> >
> > Well, not to start a flame war, but that is all subjective.
>
> Did I say otherwise? I was very careful to say "more natural FOR ME,
> faster FOR ME".
Not at all, but it was suggested that console apps were not
On 09/05/13 02:57, David Rock wrote:
* Steven D'Aprano [2013-05-08 22:13]:
On 08/05/13 00:26, Prasad, Ramit wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
* a decent console app that supports multiple tabs;
Any reason to prefer tabs to virtual terminals (i.e. screen)?
Yes. I can see tabs, and click them
* Steven D'Aprano [2013-05-08 22:13]:
> On 08/05/13 00:26, Prasad, Ramit wrote:
> > Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >
> >> * a decent console app that supports multiple tabs;
> >
> > Any reason to prefer tabs to virtual terminals (i.e. screen)?
>
>
> Yes. I can see tabs, and click them with a mouse, th
On 08/05/13 00:26, Prasad, Ramit wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
* a decent console app that supports multiple tabs;
Any reason to prefer tabs to virtual terminals (i.e. screen)?
Yes. I can see tabs, and click them with a mouse, they can have a meaningful title, and I can use spacial
memory
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> * a decent console app that supports multiple tabs;
Any reason to prefer tabs to virtual terminals (i.e. screen)?
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On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 11:13:18AM -0400, David Robinow wrote:
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> > (Actually, I am a great believer in not using IDLE for anything. If your
> > application acts weird, is that because it has a bug, or because IDLE is
> > doing something "
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 09:52:05PM +0100, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> > I've never heard of a scripting language that's not available on Windows.
>
> It depends what you mean by available. I expect Unix systems to come
> with bash, perl, python, and many more out of the box. Each of these
> things c
On 06/05/13 20:54, David Robinow wrote:
You haven't gone into enough detail for me to tell whether I'm missing
anything. I'm not understanding what you're saying about grep although
I've used next-error with C code in emacs.
You can run grep from within an editor and then step through each
oc
On 6 May 2013 20:54, David Robinow wrote:
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Alan Gauld
> wrote:
>>
>> Those are some of my favourite "Unix as an IDE" features, I'm sure there
>> are others I've missed.
>
> You haven't gone into enough detail for me to tell whether I'm missing
> anything. I'm not
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Alan Gauld wrote:
> On 06/05/13 16:13, David Robinow wrote:
>
> I certainly agree about IDLE and prefer a text editor myself. I don't
>> use Linux much and haven't noticed the "practically an IDE" part. Could
>> you expound?
>>
>
> Unix is a software engineers OS.
On 06/05/13 16:13, David Robinow wrote:
I certainly agree about IDLE and prefer a text editor myself. I don't
use Linux much and haven't noticed the "practically an IDE" part. Could
you expound?
Unix is a software engineers OS. It comes with dozens of tools and they
are nearly all integrated.
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> (Actually, I am a great believer in not using IDLE for anything. If your
> application acts weird, is that because it has a bug, or because IDLE is
> doing something "clever"? I much prefer a text editor and a terminal
> window. But then I'
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