Re: [Tutor] Telephone app

2011-01-23 Thread Alan Gauld
"David Hutto" wrote By flow through, I mean that the phone has one of 2 states(on the hook, off the hook), and three sub states(on the hook/off the hook in use/off the hook not in use). Umm, no. Much more than that. On the actual phone we pick up the receiver, or press the button on the c

Re: [Tutor] Telephone app

2011-01-23 Thread Alan Gauld
"Steven D'Aprano" wrote Folks, this question has nothing to do with Python and is off-topic for this list. Can you all take it off-list please? To be fair David is intending doing this with Python. However he is so far off-base with how he thinks it would work that he probably does need to g

Re: [Tutor] Telephone app

2011-01-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
bob gailer wrote: On 1/23/2011 4:04 PM, David Hutto wrote: [...] I guess you want to take the line that comes to you from your local telco, stick something computer-wise between it and an ordinary analog phone, so the computer can receive and process the caller id from an incoming call, and a

Re: [Tutor] Telephone app

2011-01-23 Thread bob gailer
On 1/23/2011 4:04 PM, David Hutto wrote: Warning - do NOT connect a telco landline to a USB port. The line voltage when "on hook" is around 50 V and rises over 100 when ringing. That will certainly fry the port. There are expansion cards and other devices designed to connect to the landline

Re: [Tutor] Telephone app

2011-01-23 Thread Walter Prins
On 23 January 2011 21:04, David Hutto wrote: > So I have to receive the signal that the phone is ringing(then I'm > assuming it sends the caller id info in between rings in some form)/or > transmit a series of tones to them to connect. > > So I think my main question is what modules might be rele

Re: [Tutor] Telephone app

2011-01-23 Thread David Hutto
> Can you step back a bit and explain what it is you are trying to > accomplish? "flow through" and "functional flow through" are meaningless > terms in telecomms - at least so far as I am aware (after my 35 years in > telecomms engineering...) It's two fold. First is the obvious of conducting a

Re: [Tutor] Telephone app

2011-01-22 Thread Alan Gauld
"David Hutto" wrote I'm getting ahead and behind my self here. I'm going from electrician to programmer. So I'm tring to construct the 'flow through' and the functional flow through. Can you step back a bit and explain what it is you are trying to accomplish? "flow through" and "functional

Re: [Tutor] Telephone app

2011-01-22 Thread Alan Gauld
"David Hutto" wrote No, its just wondering whether it works like the USB, with two data pins, and -+, I know how the original works, but interpreting through computer language is a little disabling. The original what? What works like USB? A traditional analog line works with a 2 wire sign

Re: [Tutor] Telephone app

2011-01-22 Thread Alan Gauld
"David Hutto" wrote This is just a reach question. What modules would i want to use if i wanted to just send the signal, and receive the signal, other than maybe, signal. In other words please tone.dumb it down, and show a pseudo example. We need a lot more info. How are you interfacing and

Re: [Tutor] Telephone app

2011-01-22 Thread David Hutto
I'm getting ahead and behind my self here. I'm going from electrician to programmer. So I'm tring to construct the 'flow through' and the functional flow through. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http:

Re: [Tutor] Telephone app

2011-01-22 Thread David Hutto
No, its just wondering whether it works like the USB, with two data pins, and -+, I know how the original works, but interpreting through computer language is a little disabling. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscriptio

Re: [Tutor] Telephone app

2011-01-22 Thread Walter Prins
Hi David, On 22 January 2011 20:03, David Hutto wrote: > This is just a reach question. What modules would i want to use if i > wanted to just send the signal, and receive the signal, other than > maybe, signal. In other words please tone.dumb it down, and show a > pseudo example. > I've read

[Tutor] Telephone app

2011-01-22 Thread David Hutto
This is just a reach question. What modules would i want to use if i wanted to just send the signal, and receive the signal, other than maybe, signal. In other words please tone.dumb it down, and show a pseudo example. -- The lawyer in me says argue...even if you're wrong. The scientist in me...