Re: [Tutor] Python Memory Allocation -- deep learning

2018-07-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 02:58:56AM +1000, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > The *only* thing you have seen which is a language feature is this rule: > > - if two objects, a and b, have the same ID *at the same time*, then > "a is b" will be true; > > - if "a is b" is false, then a and b must have diff

Re: [Tutor] Python Memory Allocation -- deep learning

2018-07-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 09:21:01AM -0600, Mats Wichmann wrote: > (id does not necessarily mean memory location, by the way) id() *never* means memory location in Python. id() *always* returns an opaque integer ID number which has no promised meaning except to be unique while the object is alive

Re: [Tutor] Python Memory Allocation -- deep learning

2018-07-30 Thread Max Zettlmeißl via Tutor
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Sunil Tech wrote: > Python memory allocation is varying in all these use cases. Please help me > understand. CPython is interning small integers and small strings as a form of optimisation. "The current implementation keeps an array of integer objects for all int

Re: [Tutor] Python Memory Allocation -- deep learning

2018-07-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 06:50:59PM +0530, Sunil Tech wrote: > Hi Team, > > I am investigating how the memory allocation happens in Python You cannot investigate memory allocation in Python code, because the Python execution model does not give you direct access to memory. What you can investiga

Re: [Tutor] Python Memory Allocation -- deep learning

2018-07-30 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 07/30/2018 07:20 AM, Sunil Tech wrote: > Hi Team, > > I am investigating how the memory allocation happens in Python There are several things going on here, but the main thing to know is: but Python language _implementations_ optimize when they can and think it makes sense. So don't draw too m

Re: [Tutor] Python Memory Allocation -- deep learning

2018-07-30 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Sunil Tech wrote: > Hi Team, > > I am investigating how the memory allocation happens in Python > For Eg: > *Case 1:* > a = 10 b = 10 c = 10 id(a), id(b), id(c) > (140621897573616, 140621897573616, 140621897573616) a += 1 id(a) > 14062

[Tutor] Python Memory Allocation -- deep learning

2018-07-30 Thread Sunil Tech
Hi Team, I am investigating how the memory allocation happens in Python For Eg: *Case 1:* >>> a = 10 >>> b = 10 >>> c = 10 >>> id(a), id(b), id(c) (140621897573616, 140621897573616, 140621897573616) >>> a += 1 >>> id(a) 140621897573592 *Case 2:* >>> x = 500 >>> y = 500 >>> id(x) 4338740848 >>>