"Steven D'Aprano" wrote
Java just isn't a hard enough language to separate great
programmers
from plodders (neither is Python, for that matter) because
pointers
and memory allocation are taken care of automagically.
I fundamentally disagree with his stand on this.
Not sure what you're sayi
On Saturday 28 May 2011 05:25:45 Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> >> Not sure what you're saying here Alan -- are you saying you consider
> >> Java "hard enough language to seperate great programmers from plodders"
> >
> > Yes, I'm saying the language just isn't that significant.
>
> Sorry Alan, you confus
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Not such a good analogy, since modern consumer goods are getting to the
> point where they are almost unrepairable except by replacing the control
> board. It often costs you *more* to fix a broken widget than to throw the
> machine away an
Alan Gauld wrote:
"Walter Prins" wrote
Java just isn't a hard enough language to separate great programmers
from plodders (neither is Python, for that matter) because pointers
and memory allocation are taken care of automagically.
I fundamentally disagree with his stand on this.
Not sure w
Marc Tompkins wrote:
And anyone who starts down that road will be weeded out very quickly.
Not quickly enough! They should be weeded out IN SCHOOL, or before they
even commit to a computer-science track. It's cruel to students,
inefficient for business, and disastrous for consumers if they d
"Walter Prins" wrote
Java just isn't a hard enough language to separate great
programmers
from plodders (neither is Python, for that matter) because
pointers
and memory allocation are taken care of automagically.
I fundamentally disagree with his stand on this.
Not sure what you're saying
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Marc Tompkins wrote:
> That was the point that Joel and I were making. The CS programs that have
> become Java schools now make the curriculum as easy as possible because they
The concept that knowledge/ability to use a language doesn't indicate
quality is one I
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Alan Gauld wrote:
>
> I want them to have studied the subject deeply and have a wealth of
> experience. Studying computing because its an easy option is not an option
> because its never easy.
That was the point that Joel and I were making. The CS programs that
Hi Colin,
On 27 May 2011 14:41, col speed wrote:
> I've been learning Python on and off for the past 3 years, as a hobby.
> I am over 50 years old, so will never be a programmer. However:
>
Well just because you're 50 years old doesn't mean you will never be a
programmer ;)
> 1/ I've done a b
On 27 May 2011 17:31, Walter Prins wrote:
>
>
> I find this thread very interesting.
>
I've been learning Python on and off for the past 3 years, as a hobby.
I am over 50 years old, so will never be a programmer. However:
1/ I've done a bit in Project Euler and have found many algorithms to get
On 27 May 2011 09:59, Alan Gauld wrote:
> "Marc Tompkins" wrote
>
>> Java just isn't a hard enough language to separate great programmers
>>
>> from plodders (neither is Python, for that matter) because pointers
>> and memory allocation are taken care of automagically.
>>
>
> I fundamentally dis
May I direct the interview question to another direction?
are there some tests (I mean, just like the examination test) of
python for beginner?
which asked some basic but important questions (I do not want to learn
python all of the stuff, it might be so huge for me.)
and most important those pra
"Alan Gauld" wrote
of the term. The issue is about whether the programmer was
trained in computing/engineering or whether it was someone
who just knew a programming language.
And I meant to add that this includes learning about the
virtual machine - the execution environment, the differen
"Marc Tompkins" wrote
Java just isn't a hard enough language to separate great programmers
from plodders (neither is Python, for that matter) because pointers
and memory allocation are taken care of automagically.
I fundamentally disagree with his stand on this.
When you're hiring programmer
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Alan Gauld wrote:
>
> Indeed, I personally dislike Java, I think it encourages some very bad
> programming design habits, especially in the OOP area, but sadly it is the
> de facto standard... (And increasingly, so are the bad habits! :-( )
I despise it root an
"Marc Tompkins" wrote
...Java has come to dominate academia and busness applications.
Which, as Joel Spolsky has famously pointed out, is not universally
a Good
Thing:
Indeed, I personally dislike Java, I think it encourages
some very bad programming design habits, especially
in the OOP a
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Alan Gauld wrote:
>
> "Prasad, Ramit" wrote
>
> Is C still the standard interviewing basis for the computer science basics
>> (e.g. data structures, algorithms, etc)?
>>
>
> In the UK at least it is almost universally Java nowadays.
>
> C (and C++) are still yuse
"Prasad, Ramit" wrote
Is C still the standard interviewing basis for the computer
science basics (e.g. data structures, algorithms, etc)?
In the UK at least it is almost universally Java nowadays.
C (and C++) are still yused in industrial settings, especially
in embedded systems, but Java
If I were interviewing for a Perl or PHP position, then yes. However, if
I just wanted to see if they knew the algorithm, I'd let them use
whatever language they were most comfortable in, provided those of us
interviewing also knew the language.
I think C++ is more common now for data structur
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To expand
To expand on Martin's questions, when I've interviewed in the past, I've
asked (or been asked as an interviewee) questions that investigate
critical thinking, like those silly-sounding questions of "how many golf
balls would fit in a bus" or "how many windows are there in Seattle".
Those kinds
Hi there,
: Hey I'll be appearing for Job Interviews and wondering if anybody
: of you appeared for a Python Interview Or if on the other end as
: an interviewer. Can you please share the questions asked?
: That will be of great help :)
I would point out that there are many types of i
"Neha P" wrote
Hey I'll be appearing for Job Interviews and wondering
if anybody of you appeared for a Python Interview
Or if on the other end as an interviewer.
Can you please share the questions asked?
I've been an interviewer many times, but the approach
we use is a tehnique called, among
Hey I'll be appearing for Job Interviews and wondering if anybody of you
appeared for a Python Interview Or if on the other end as an interviewer.
Can you please share the questions asked?
That will be of great help :)
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