On 16 June 2013 21:52, eryksun wrote:
> In PyScripter you can just type the closing quote/brace over the
> auto-inserted one.
Ah, the light dawns. One of those things I'd never find in the docs
for PyScripter, unless I stopped learning Python and read them all -
if that's in the docs.
Now I can
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Roel Schroeven wrote:
> Jim Mooney schreef:
>> I'll get to here:
>>
>> {'alpha':'beta'
>>
>> Only my cursor is to the Left of the final quote. Then I have to go
>> hunt the Right Arrow or End key
In PyScripter you can just type the closing quote/brace over the
aut
On 17/06/13 00:12, Jim Mooney wrote:
There is also an active community writing third-party plugins for Vim
and this is probably where the bulk of significant new features are
developed.
So as Dr. Frankenstein exclaimed: "It's Alive!" ;')
Vim as a project is very much alive but to be honest I u
On 16/06/13 19:55, Joel Goldstick wrote:
I think VIM is somehow a descendent of TECO
I think your confusing it with emacs which originally stood
for EditingMACroS and was just a set of Teco macros which
made it easier to use. Then James Gosling and Richard Stallman
got their respective hands
> There is also an active community writing third-party plugins for Vim
> and this is probably where the bulk of significant new features are
> developed.
So as Dr. Frankenstein exclaimed: "It's Alive!" ;')
--
Jim
After indictment the bacon smuggler was put on the no-fry list
___
On 16 June 2013 18:49, Jim Mooney wrote:
> Although an editor that's been around since the stone age
> probably doesn't blow up. I doubt VIM has a constant stream of
> upgrades (not always compatible), bug fixes, and security fixes ;')
I use Vim pretty much exclusively and work on Linux and Windo
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:01 PM, pyt...@outofoptions.net <
pyt...@outofoptions.net> wrote:
> On 06/16/2013 01:49 PM, Jim Mooney wrote:
>
>> VIM sounds good but I don't think there's a version for Windows.
>
>
There definitely is a windows version
Keeping different programs open is great if you ha
On 06/16/2013 01:49 PM, Jim Mooney wrote:
VIM sounds good but I don't think there's a version for Windows.
Keeping different programs open is great if you have dual monitors,
which I did when I was webmastering. Alas, some $#@ fooled with my
computer and wiped out the dual monitor card. But whe
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Steve Willoughby wrote:
>
> On 16-Jun-2013, at 11:35, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> > On 17/06/13 03:59, Steve Willoughby wrote:
> >>
> >> On 16-Jun-2013, at 10:49, Jim Mooney wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 16 June 2013 01:43, Roel Schroeven wrote:
> >>>
> Can't you di
On 16-Jun-2013, at 11:35, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On 17/06/13 03:59, Steve Willoughby wrote:
>>
>> On 16-Jun-2013, at 10:49, Jim Mooney wrote:
>>
>>> On 16 June 2013 01:43, Roel Schroeven wrote:
>>>
Can't you disable that behavior somewhere in the settings of your IDE? I
know IDE
On 17/06/13 03:59, Steve Willoughby wrote:
On 16-Jun-2013, at 10:49, Jim Mooney wrote:
On 16 June 2013 01:43, Roel Schroeven wrote:
Can't you disable that behavior somewhere in the settings of your IDE? I
know IDEs do that to be helpful, but I don't like it and so far I've been
able to dis
On 17/06/13 03:25, Jim Mooney wrote:
On 15 June 2013 23:30, Dave Angel wrote:
The sort() method doesn't work, but sorted does.
How many times have I read you can't sort a dictionary in Python. Was
I just misreading or was that true of older Pythons?
You can't sort a dictionary, because dic
On 16-Jun-2013, at 10:49, Jim Mooney wrote:
> On 16 June 2013 01:43, Roel Schroeven wrote:
>
>> Can't you disable that behavior somewhere in the settings of your IDE? I
>> know IDEs do that to be helpful, but I don't like it and so far I've been
>> able to disable it in all IDEs I've used.
>
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Jim Mooney wrote:
> On 15 June 2013 23:30, Dave Angel wrote:
>
The sort() method doesn't work, but sorted does.
>
> How many times have I read you can't sort a dictionary in Python. Was
> I just misreading or was that true of older Pythons?
Dicts have no ord
On 16 June 2013 01:43, Roel Schroeven wrote:
> Can't you disable that behavior somewhere in the settings of your IDE? I
> know IDEs do that to be helpful, but I don't like it and so far I've been
> able to disable it in all IDEs I've used.
PyScripter does in Tools > Options > IDE Options > Edito
On 15 June 2013 23:30, Dave Angel wrote:
>>> The sort() method doesn't work, but sorted does.
How many times have I read you can't sort a dictionary in Python. Was
I just misreading or was that true of older Pythons?
--
Jim
After indictment the bacon smuggler was put on the no-fry list
___
Jim Mooney schreef:
On 15 June 2013 14:55, Alan Gauld wrote:
I think your making it harder than it is.
Just use the result as you would expect and it will work.
I just meant that since I'm learning I'll create a dictionary on the
fly to try something out. All goes well except my IDE will typ
On 06/16/2013 01:58 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On 16/06/13 11:53, Dave Angel wrote:
On 06/15/2013 08:36 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
for key in sorted(mydict.keys()):
...
works fine.
[...]
The sort() method doesn't work, but sorted does.
[...]
for key in sorted(mydict.keys()):
Not o
On 16/06/13 11:53, Dave Angel wrote:
On 06/15/2013 08:36 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
for key in sorted(mydict.keys()):
...
works fine.
[...]
The sort() method doesn't work, but sorted does.
[...]
for key in sorted(mydict.keys()):
Not only that, but sorted works too:
for key in sort
On 06/15/2013 08:36 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On 16/06/13 07:55, Alan Gauld wrote:
On 15/06/13 20:54, Jim Mooney wrote:
I just like to avoid typing all those odd little-finger characters.
The dictionaries are the worst.
I think your making it harder than it is.
Just use the result as you wo
On 16/06/13 07:55, Alan Gauld wrote:
On 15/06/13 20:54, Jim Mooney wrote:
I just like to avoid typing all those odd little-finger characters.
The dictionaries are the worst.
I think your making it harder than it is.
Just use the result as you would expect and it will work.
Don't get hung up
On 15 June 2013 14:55, Alan Gauld wrote:
> I think your making it harder than it is.
> Just use the result as you would expect and it will work.
I just meant that since I'm learning I'll create a dictionary on the
fly to try something out. All goes well except my IDE will type two
quotes if I ty
On 15/06/13 20:54, Jim Mooney wrote:
I just like to avoid typing all those odd little-finger characters.
The dictionaries are the worst.
I think your making it harder than it is.
Just use the result as you would expect and it will work.
Don't get hung up over a list versus an iterable.
Just u
On 15 June 2013 12:34, Andreas Perstinger wrote:
d = {'a': 1, 'b': 2, 'c': 3, 'd': 4}
list(d.keys())
> ['a', 'c', 'b', 'd']
Ah, that simplifies it. I probably read that and forgot it - so little
time so much to learn ;') Without you guys the memory-fog would do me
in .
I just like to
On 15 June 2013 11:51, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote:
> The standard use is:
>
> for k, v in d.items():
>do_stuff_with_dict_items_here()
>
Yes, they're easy to get keys = [x for x in d], or vals = [d[x] for x in d]
It's just that Python usually does what I expect and presents me w
On 16/06/13 04:41, Jim Mooney wrote:
When I try to get the keys of a dictionary, such as d.keys(), I get
the below instead of a plain list, and it's not very usable. How can I
use the keys from this like it was a list, or is this basically
useless other than to see the keys or values?
*** Python
Jim Mooney wrote:
>When I try to get the keys of a dictionary, such as d.keys(), I get
>the below instead of a plain list, and it's not very usable. How can I
>use the keys from this like it was a list, or is this basically
>useless other than to see the keys or values?
If you really need a list
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Jim Mooney wrote:
> When I try to get the keys of a dictionary, such as d.keys(), I get
> the below instead of a plain list, and it's not very usable. How can I
> use the keys from this like it was a list, or is this basically
> useless other than to see the keys o
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Jim Mooney wrote:
> When I try to get the keys of a dictionary, such as d.keys(), I get
> the below instead of a plain list, and it's not very usable. How can I
> use the keys from this like it was a list, or is this basically
> useless other than to see the keys o
When I try to get the keys of a dictionary, such as d.keys(), I get
the below instead of a plain list, and it's not very usable. How can I
use the keys from this like it was a list, or is this basically
useless other than to see the keys or values?
*** Python 3.3.2 (v3.3.2:d047928ae3f6, May 16 201
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