Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-24 Thread Jon Paris
On Jul 23, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Alan Gauld wrote: > On 23/07/15 20:10, Jon Paris wrote: > >> Anyway - thanks again. You’re the first “friendly face” I’ve encountered >> here. > > Hi Jon, that slightly worries me as list moderator. > > Can you explain what you mean (off list if you prefer). > Yo

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Alan Gauld
On 23/07/15 20:10, Jon Paris wrote: Anyway - thanks again. You’re the first “friendly face” I’ve encountered here. Hi Jon, that slightly worries me as list moderator. Can you explain what you mean (off list if you prefer). You received many answers to your original query and none of them seem

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 7/23/2015 5:08 PM, Alan Gauld wrote: On 23/07/15 19:50, Laura Creighton wrote: Also some people like to use the combination %< %< %< or >% >% >% A new one on me, but I kind of like it. ;-) I usually just use I include them generally to bracket code intended to be cut and paste into t

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Alan Gauld
On 23/07/15 15:54, Jon Paris wrote: I’ve been posting to many different sites for twenty plus years > and never had this kind of complaint. It's not really a complaint from me, I was just explaining Mark's comment. When I was working (now semi-retired) it did drive me nuts because with 200-3

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Alan Gauld
On 23/07/15 19:50, Laura Creighton wrote: Also some people like to use the combination %< %< %< or >% >% >% A new one on me, but I kind of like it. ;-) I usually just use -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ http://www.amazon.com/author/alan_gauld Foll

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Jon Paris
On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:10:14 -0400, Jon Paris writes: >>> You may find this program useful. >>> http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/40735/href=%27 >>> >>> But you still have to go back and trim out unnecessary verbiage. >>> >>> Lau

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Jon Paris
On Jul 23, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:23:29 -0400, Jon Paris writes: > >> Well I confess that is what I was expecting, and certainly you have been >> very friendly for which I thank you. It did feel a little odd to come to a >> beginners gr

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Jon Paris
On Jul 23, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:10:14 -0400, Jon Paris writes: >> >> Thanks for the info Laura - I don’t think I can use it though unless it >> provides for activation against only one email account. For the vast >> majority of my mail

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Jon Paris
On Jul 23, 2015, at 2:55 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:54:09 -0400, Jon Paris writes: >> I’ve been posting to many different sites for twenty plus years and never >> had this kind of complaint. I can’t even find a way of telling my email >> client (Mac) to do

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:10:14 -0400, Jon Paris writes: >> You may find this program useful. >> http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/40735/href=%27 >> >> But you still have to go back and trim out unnecessary verbiage. >> >> Laura > >Thanks for the info Laura - I don’t think I can use it t

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:23:29 -0400, Jon Paris writes: >Well I confess that is what I was expecting, and certainly you have been very >friendly for which I thank you. It did feel a little odd to come to a >beginners group and immediately get dumped on. > >C’est la via. I have now fou

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:10:14 -0400, Jon Paris writes: > >Thanks for the info Laura - I don’t think I can use it though unless it >provides for activation against only one email account. For the vast majority >of my mail (this is my only usenet type group) I need it the “normal” way.

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:54:09 -0400, Jon Paris writes: >I’ve been posting to many different sites for twenty plus years and never had >this kind of complaint. I can’t even find a way of telling my email client >(Mac) to do it the way you want. Right now I’m manually changing every >r

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:55:13 -0400, Jon Paris writes: >On Jul 23, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> In these sorts of technical forums, email is a discussion between >> multiple parties, not just two, often in slow motion (sometimes replies >> may not come in for a wee

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Jon Paris
On Jul 23, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 09:59:22 -0400, Jon Paris writes: >> I am not familiar with the term “top post” - I’m guessing you mean that my >> reply came before your original message. >> >> My email does it that way because that is my

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Jon Paris
On Jul 23, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Alan Gauld wrote: > On 23/07/15 14:59, Jon Paris wrote: > >> I am not familiar with the term “top post” > > See this wikipedia article which describes in detail all the > alternatives along with their relative merits. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_sty

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Jon Paris
On Jul 23, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 09:59:22AM -0400, Jon Paris wrote: > >> I am not familiar with the term “top post” - I’m guessing you mean >> that my reply came before your original message. > > Yes, it means "post at the top". Hence, "top post".

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 09:59:22 -0400, Jon Paris writes: >I am not familiar with the term “top post” - I’m guessing you mean that my >reply came before your original message. > >My email does it that way because that is my preference - and for that matter >most people I do business wit

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 09:59:22AM -0400, Jon Paris wrote: > I am not familiar with the term “top post” - I’m guessing you mean > that my reply came before your original message. Yes, it means "post at the top". Hence, "top post". A: Because it messes up the order in which you read. Q: Why is t

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Alan Gauld
On 23/07/15 14:59, Jon Paris wrote: I am not familiar with the term “top post” See this wikipedia article which describes in detail all the alternatives along with their relative merits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style including this commonly seen example: Because it messes up t

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-23 Thread Jon Paris
On Jul 22, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 22/07/2015 15:16, Jon Paris wrote: >> Yup - the “xxx_todo_changeme” was the part that I meant. >> >> That might not constitute a “problem” for you but, for someone just starting >> out, exactly what is needed to correct it was not obvious.

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-22 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 22/07/2015 15:16, Jon Paris wrote: Yup - the “xxx_todo_changeme” was the part that I meant. That might not constitute a “problem” for you but, for someone just starting out, exactly what is needed to correct it was not obvious. I have subsequently resolved the issue. Jon Paris jon.f.pa...

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-22 Thread Jon Paris
Thanks - I’m pretty sure that was how I got to the updated version of that recipe in the first place. I assumed that if you were on a page of V3 examples that the search option would only give you V3 results. It doesn’t. It does seem to restrict the results to Python but ignores the fact that yo

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-22 Thread Jon Paris
Yup - the “xxx_todo_changeme” was the part that I meant. That might not constitute a “problem” for you but, for someone just starting out, exactly what is needed to correct it was not obvious. I have subsequently resolved the issue. Jon Paris jon.f.pa...@gmail.com On Jul 22, 2015, at 9:52 A

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-22 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 21/07/2015 21:19, Jon Paris wrote: The one example I specifically remember was this one http://code.activestate.com/recipes/532908-text-to-pdf-converter-rewrite/ - I happened to be looking for a simple pdf utility and this one was well reviewed. I subsequently have been told that the parts

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-21 Thread Alan Gauld
On 21/07/15 21:19, Jon Paris wrote: The one example I specifically remember was this one http://code.activestate.com/recipes/ For Activestate check the languages tab. You can choose to see only Python 2 or Python 3 recipes. HTH -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.ala

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-21 Thread Jon Paris
The one example I specifically remember was this one http://code.activestate.com/recipes/532908-text-to-pdf-converter-rewrite/ - I happened to be looking for a simple pdf utility and this one was well reviewed. I subsequently have been told that the parts that 2to3 had trouble with were bad pra

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-21 Thread Alan Gauld
Forwarding to group, please use Reply All when replying to the group. On 21/07/15 14:27, Jon Paris wrote: Just about everywhere I had looked Alan! I had figured out the print() bit pretty early on but some other things were more problematic - particularly when 2to3 basically just added comment

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-20 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:53:32AM -0400, Jon Paris wrote: > I’m having problems identifying sites that feature V3 code. My > learning is being hampered by having to worry about conversion for the > vast majority of the examples I encounter. > > Any suggestions on how to deal with this? This c

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-20 Thread Alan Gauld
On 20/07/15 15:53, Jon Paris wrote: I’m having problems identifying sites that feature V3 code. The simplest clues are print foo -> v2 print(foo) -> v3 import Tkinter -> v2 import tkinter -> v3 However, mostly it doesn't make much difference. Are there particular sites or code issues you

[Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

2015-07-20 Thread Jon Paris
I’m having problems identifying sites that feature V3 code. My learning is being hampered by having to worry about conversion for the vast majority of the examples I encounter. Any suggestions on how to deal with this? Jon Paris jon.f.pa...@gmail.com