Re: [Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string - presentation

2015-04-17 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 17 April 2015 at 03:29, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 03:11:59PM -0700, Jim Mooney wrote: > >> So the longer numerator and denominator would, indeed, be more accurate if >> used in certain calculations rather than being normalized to a float - such >> as in a Fortran subrouti

Re: [Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string - presentation

2015-04-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 03:11:59PM -0700, Jim Mooney wrote: > So the longer numerator and denominator would, indeed, be more accurate if > used in certain calculations rather than being normalized to a float - such > as in a Fortran subroutine or perhaps if exported to a machine with a > longer bi

Re: [Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string - presentation

2015-04-16 Thread Jim Mooney
The whole point of the discussion is that this is *not* a presentation issue. Fraction(1.64) and Fraction("1.64") *are* two different numbers because one gets constructed from a value that is not quite 1.64. Wolfgang Maier -- So the longer numerator and denominator would, indeed, be more accurate

Re: [Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string - presentation

2015-04-16 Thread Dave Angel
On 04/16/2015 01:24 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: Is this "inaccurate"? Well, in the sense that it is not the exact true mathematical result, yes it is, but that term can be misleading if you think of it as "a mistake". In another sense, it's not inaccurate, it is as accurate as possible (given the limi

Re: [Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string - presentation

2015-04-16 Thread Danny Yoo
On Apr 16, 2015 1:42 PM, "Jim Mooney" wrote: > Understood about the quondam inexactness of floating point bit > representation. I was just wondering why the different implementation of > representing it when using Fraction(float) as opposed to using > Fraction(string(float)). Ah. Correction. Y

Re: [Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string - presentation

2015-04-16 Thread Wolfgang Maier
On 16.04.2015 19:24, Jim Mooney wrote: Understood about the quondam inexactness of floating point bit representation. I was just wondering why the different implementation of representing it when using Fraction(float) as opposed to using Fraction(string(float)). In terms of user presentation, t

Re: [Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string - presentation

2015-04-16 Thread Jim Mooney
> > Is this "inaccurate"? Well, in the sense that it is not the exact true > mathematical result, yes it is, but that term can be misleading if you > think of it as "a mistake". In another sense, it's not inaccurate, it is > as accurate as possible (given the limitation of only having a certain > f

Re: [Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string

2015-04-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 01:52:51AM -0700, Danny Yoo wrote: > It's this last supposition that should be treated most seriously. Most > computers use "floating point", a representation of numbers that use a > fixed set of bits. This uniformity allows floating point math to be > implemented quickly

Re: [Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string

2015-04-16 Thread Dave Angel
On 04/16/2015 08:11 AM, Dave Angel wrote: On 04/16/2015 01:03 AM, Jim Mooney wrote: Why does Fraction interpret a number and string so differently? They come out the same, but it seems rather odd from fractions import Fraction Fraction(1.64) Fraction(738590337613, 4503599627370496) Fract

Re: [Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string

2015-04-16 Thread Dave Angel
On 04/16/2015 01:03 AM, Jim Mooney wrote: Why does Fraction interpret a number and string so differently? They come out the same, but it seems rather odd from fractions import Fraction Fraction(1.64) Fraction(738590337613, 4503599627370496) Fraction("1.64") Fraction(41, 25) 41/25 1.64

Re: [Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string

2015-04-16 Thread Danny Yoo
On Apr 16, 2015 1:52 AM, "Danny Yoo" wrote: > > > On Apr 16, 2015 1:32 AM, "Jim Mooney" wrote: > > > > Why does Fraction interpret a number and string so differently? They come > > out the same, but it seems rather odd > > > > >>> from fractions import Fraction > > >>> Fraction(1.64) > > Fraction

Re: [Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string

2015-04-16 Thread Wolfgang Maier
On 04/16/2015 07:03 AM, Jim Mooney wrote: Why does Fraction interpret a number and string so differently? They come out the same, but it seems rather odd from fractions import Fraction Fraction(1.64) Fraction(738590337613, 4503599627370496) Fraction("1.64") Fraction(41, 25) 41/25 1.64

Re: [Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string

2015-04-16 Thread Danny Yoo
On Apr 16, 2015 1:32 AM, "Jim Mooney" wrote: > > Why does Fraction interpret a number and string so differently? They come > out the same, but it seems rather odd > > >>> from fractions import Fraction > >>> Fraction(1.64) > Fraction(738590337613, 4503599627370496) > >>> Fraction("1.64") > Fra

[Tutor] Fraction - differing interpretations for number and string

2015-04-16 Thread Jim Mooney
Why does Fraction interpret a number and string so differently? They come out the same, but it seems rather odd >>> from fractions import Fraction >>> Fraction(1.64) Fraction(738590337613, 4503599627370496) >>> Fraction("1.64") Fraction(41, 25) >>> 41/25 1.64 >>> 738590337613 / 45035996273