Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-10-01 Thread Alan Gauld
On 01/10/13 02:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Ah, no I think I see what Rafael is trying to do! I remember those old BASIC listings from the 1970s where the first thing the program did was print out a page and a half of introductory text telling you what the program did and what commands to give to

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 03:00:08PM +0200, Rafael Knuth wrote: > I mean, my giant print > statement was really ridiculous to say the least but it did what I > wanted the program to do - adding items to the To Do List and printing > that list. But no it didn't! It just *printed* stuff you wanted t

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 01:30:55PM +0200, Rafael Knuth wrote: > I am still hoping that I will get some feedback from anyone on that > list that will help me make a tiny little next step. Be bold! Be adventurous! You don't need baby steps, this is not like climbing Mount Everest without oxygen! I

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 01:12:49PM +0200, Rafael Knuth wrote: > Hej there, > > @Alan @Joel: > I didn't know that pouring corn on newbies is the purpose of a tutor > mailing list. The word you want is "scorn", not corn. > I do not understand why you don't consider what I wrote not a program > ("

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:43:57AM +0100, Alan Gauld wrote: > On 29/09/13 21:42, Rafael Knuth wrote: > > >iteration. I know my program is super cheesy & primitive, but I don’t > >care, it does what I expect it to do, > > Really? You wrote a program that printed out a different > program to the on

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Alan Gauld
On 30/09/13 12:12, Rafael Knuth wrote: @Alan @Joel: I didn't know that pouring corn on newbies We weerenm't pouring corn, we were pointing out that the program you claimed to have working as a ToDo list did no such thing. It doesn't add anmy items it doesn't store it doesn;t retriebe. All it

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Dave Angel
On 30/9/2013 09:00, Rafael Knuth wrote: > Hej Dave, > > thank you for your response. > >> Your original program had some code that interacted with the user. So >> when you went from that to a giant print statement, I, and proably many >> others, thought you were just kidding. > > I noticed that,

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Rafael Knuth
Dominik, > OTOH, *if* your claim that you understand the concepts mentioned by Dave > isn't an ill-minded overestimation, I wonder why you don't go and use > these skills. Doyou lack a concept of how to logically build up your > code, or what's the main issue? Exactly. I didn't know how to put th

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Dominik George
Hi Rafael, > > Your original program had some code that interacted with the user. So > > when you went from that to a giant print statement, I, and proably many > > others, thought you were just kidding. > > I noticed that, but I was serious about that. I mean, my giant print > statement was rea

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Rafael Knuth
Hej Dave, thank you for your response. > Your original program had some code that interacted with the user. So > when you went from that to a giant print statement, I, and proably many > others, thought you were just kidding. I noticed that, but I was serious about that. I mean, my giant print

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Dave Angel
On 30/9/2013 07:47, Rafael Knuth wrote: > Dominik, > > this was my original question: > > As of now, I want to understand how I can add > further functionalities to my program such as: appending items to the > list, removing and replacing items. Can anyone help? > > Simple as that. > Your origina

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Rafael Knuth wrote: > Dominik, > > this was my original question: > > As of now, I want to understand how I can add > further functionalities to my program such as: appending items to the > list, removing and replacing items. Can anyone help? > > Simple as that. >

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Rafael Knuth
Dominik, this was my original question: As of now, I want to understand how I can add further functionalities to my program such as: appending items to the list, removing and replacing items. Can anyone help? Simple as that. Rafael On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Dominik George wrote: >

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Dominik George
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Rafael Knuth schrieb: >Dominik, > >> it's not your program - it's your attitude. We expect you to learn >for yourself as well, and putting the commands you output into a script >and execute it clearly isn't beyond what we can expect from someone w

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Rafael Knuth
Dominik, > it's not your program - it's your attitude. We expect you to learn for > yourself as well, and putting the commands you output into a script and > execute it clearly isn't beyond what we can expect from someone who can use a > mail program. Thanks for the clarification, you were the

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Dominik George
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Rafael Knuth schrieb: >Hej there, > >@Alan @Joel: >I didn't know that pouring corn on newbies is the purpose of a tutor >mailing list. >Why don't you try writing a program instead? Why don't you use the cat >interpreter instead? >I tried my best a

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-30 Thread Rafael Knuth
Hej there, @Alan @Joel: I didn't know that pouring corn on newbies is the purpose of a tutor mailing list. Why don't you try writing a program instead? Why don't you use the cat interpreter instead? I tried my best and that's what I came up with, and I am eager to learn form experienced programmer

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-29 Thread Alan Gauld
On 29/09/13 21:42, Rafael Knuth wrote: iteration. I know my program is super cheesy & primitive, but I don’t care, it does what I expect it to do, Really? You wrote a program that printed out a different program to the one you ran and that's what you wanted? It doesn't do anything about creati

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-29 Thread Alan Gauld
On 29/09/13 22:09, Joel Goldstick wrote: mysql comes with python, and you can learn the basics over a weekend using the interactive tool that comes with it. I assume you meant SQLite comes with python? MySql is a download... -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-29 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Walter Prins wrote: > On 29 September 2013 22:09, Joel Goldstick wrote: > >> mysql comes with python, and you can learn the basics over a weekend >> using the interactive tool that comes with it. >> > > Just a minor errata: I'm sure Joel meant to write "sqlite",

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-29 Thread Walter Prins
On 29 September 2013 22:09, Joel Goldstick wrote: > mysql comes with python, and you can learn the basics over a weekend using > the interactive tool that comes with it. > Just a minor errata: I'm sure Joel meant to write "sqlite", not "mysql". (SQLite is indeed included with Python, the latte

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-29 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Rafael Knuth wrote: > Hej there, > > I am writing a to do list program in Python 3.0. > > Earlier this week, I shared my first iteration on the mailing list, > and the feedback was that I should learn how to create, write to and > read from a text file – which I di

Re: [Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-29 Thread Dominik George
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Rafael Knuth schrieb: >Hej there, > >I am writing a to do list program in Python 3.0. > >Earlier this week, I shared my first iteration on the mailing list, >and the feedback was that I should learn how to create, write to and >read from a text fi

[Tutor] Creating To Do List Program - Question

2013-09-29 Thread Rafael Knuth
Hej there, I am writing a to do list program in Python 3.0. Earlier this week, I shared my first iteration on the mailing list, and the feedback was that I should learn how to create, write to and read from a text file – which I did. Below please find my second iteration. I know my program is sup