Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Jeff Johnson
On 12/28/2010 01:35 PM, Brett Ritter wrote: On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: Webfaction supports long processes and that is why they are the largest Django hosting site. They support a ton of software, too. SVN, Trac are two I use. I didn't see git hosting among their so

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Brett Ritter
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: > Webfaction supports long processes and that is why they are the largest > Django hosting site.  They support a ton of software, too.  SVN, Trac are > two I use. I didn't see git hosting among their software. Is it available without hoop-jump

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Jeff Johnson
On 12/28/2010 12:48 PM, Marc Tompkins wrote: On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:32 AM, > wrote: Most of the hosting companies I've investigated support older versions of Python and only support CGI access. Ah yes - that's what it was. To use Django (or most other fr

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Marc Tompkins
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:32 AM, wrote: > > Most of the hosting companies I've investigated support older versions of > Python and only support CGI access. > > Ah yes - that's what it was. To use Django (or most other frameworks) you need some processes to be running more or less constantly, as

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Jeff Johnson
On 12/28/2010 10:46 AM, Marc Tompkins wrote: I love, love, love me some Python - it fits the way I think better than any other language I've used - but there is one consideration that occurs to me: Python is nearly ubiquitous on Linux/Mac, and easy to download and install on Windows - but most

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread python
Marc/Emile, If you're looking for a good hosting service that supports Python, I strongly recommend webfaction.com. I've worked with a lot of hosting companies and webfaction gets my highest endorsement: Great support, helpful user community, very flexible support for hosting Python applications

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Marc Tompkins
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Emile van Sebille wrote: > On 12/28/2010 9:46 AM Marc Tompkins said... > > I love, love, love me some Python - it fits the way I think better than >> any >> other language I've used - but there is one consideration that occurs to >> me: >> Python is nearly ubiqui

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Marc Tompkins
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Marc Tompkins wrote: > I love, love, love me some Python - it fits the way I think better than any > other language I've used - but there is one consideration that occurs to me: > Python is nearly ubiquitous on Linux/Mac, and easy to download and install > on Windo

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 12/28/2010 9:46 AM Marc Tompkins said... I love, love, love me some Python - it fits the way I think better than any other language I've used - but there is one consideration that occurs to me: Python is nearly ubiquitous on Linux/Mac, and easy to download and install on Windows - but most bar

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Marc Tompkins
I love, love, love me some Python - it fits the way I think better than any other language I've used - but there is one consideration that occurs to me: Python is nearly ubiquitous on Linux/Mac, and easy to download and install on Windows - but most bargain-basement Web hosts don't support it (I'm

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Knacktus
Am 28.12.2010 14:41, schrieb Stefan Behnel: Abdulhakim Haliru, 28.12.2010 13:38: I come from a Cakephp, zend framework angle cutting through ASP.net,VB and C# at an intermediate level. [...] Is python really worth the pain or should I just skip it ? Given that you already invested your time in

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread शंतनू
On 28-Dec-2010, at 10:14 PM, Wayne Werner wrote: > On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Brett Ritter wrote: > (though I have to constantly reteach myself not to > use semicolons :) ). > > Technically speaking, you *can* use semicolons in Python: > > if 3 == int('3'): >print('Cool'); > > wo

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Wayne Werner
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Brett Ritter wrote: > (though I have to constantly reteach myself not to > use semicolons :) ). Technically speaking, you *can* use semicolons in Python: if 3 == int('3'): print('Cool'); works the same sans semicolon. -Wayne _

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Brett Ritter
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Abdulhakim Haliru wrote: > Unlearn my php ways (as that must certainly happen J)  and learn python and > web development woth python, Jquery etal ? ... > Is python really worth the pain or should I just skip it ? If you accept that you'll continue to learn new syn

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 12/28/2010 4:38 AM Abdulhakim Haliru said... Is python really worth the pain or should I just skip it ? I think exactly the same thing about PHP each time I run into a PHP app that I need to tweak. Mostly I just skip it... For me, there wasn't any pain in learning python. Of course, I

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: "Abdulhakim Haliru" > Hi Guys, > > I am pretty new to python as this is just my 5th day reading through God > knows how many books. I am really not new to programming, > > I come from a Cakephp, zend framework angle cutting through ASP.net,VB and > C# at an intermediate level. > > Howeve

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Stefan Behnel
Abdulhakim Haliru, 28.12.2010 13:38: I come from a Cakephp, zend framework angle cutting through ASP.net,VB and C# at an intermediate level. [...] Is python really worth the pain or should I just skip it ? Given that you already invested your time into learning all of the above (which basicall

Re: [Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Joel Goldstick
Python, to me, is much more self consistent. It is a language that was designed with a plan. PHP to me feels like its more cobbled together. Python is easier to read, you get much more done in less code. The build in data structures are intrinsically connected to coding patterns. This may seem

[Tutor] Choice of Python

2010-12-28 Thread Abdulhakim Haliru
Hi Guys, I am pretty new to python as this is just my 5th day reading through God knows how many books. I am really not new to programming, I come from a Cakephp, zend framework angle cutting through ASP.net,VB and C# at an intermediate level. However, for some reason, I am thinking pytho