Re: [Tutor] Barplot order-arrangement

If I try to teach myself Python through YouTube videos, why would anyone hire me over someone who has a 2-year Computer Science degree? And why would anyone hire someone who has a 2-year Computer Science degree over someone who has a 4-year Computer Science degree? Would I be hired if I showed

[Tutor] Fw: IDLE

Thanks. What do you mean when you say "find a written tutorial"? From: Tutor on behalf of Leam Hall Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 6:39 AM To: tutor@python.org Subject: Re: [Tutor] IDLE On 12/30/2017 04:07 AM, Alan Gauld via Tutor wrote: > Videos are good

Re: [Tutor] IDLE

I spent a lot of time watching 18 different Python tutorials made by "The Bad Tutorials." I realized finally that they were not for me, because in my opinion, the speaker on the videos skips steps. Also, he had his own personal name "put in" to his Python, but on my version, it just says the wo

[Tutor] Can someone explain this to me please

ad it produces a value greeter than the supposed maximum while still keeping it as an int. I’m confused. If sys.maxsize _isn’t_ the largest possible value then how do I determine what is? Jon Paris jon.f.pa...@gmail.com ___ Tutor maillist - Tuto

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

On Jul 23, 2015, at 8:23 PM, Alan Gauld wrote: > On 23/07/15 20:10, Jon Paris wrote: > >> Anyway - thanks again. You’re the first “friendly face” I’ve encountered >> here. > > Hi Jon, that slightly worries me as list moderator. > > Can you explain what yo

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:10:14 -0400, Jon Paris writes: >>> You may find this program useful. >>> http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/40735/href=%27 >>> >>> But you still have to go

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

On Jul 23, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:23:29 -0400, Jon Paris writes: > >> Well I confess that is what I was expecting, and certainly you have been >> very friendly for which I thank you. It did feel a little odd to come

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

On Jul 23, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:10:14 -0400, Jon Paris writes: >> >> Thanks for the info Laura - I don’t think I can use it though unless it >> provides for activation against only one email account. For the va

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

On Jul 23, 2015, at 2:55 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 10:54:09 -0400, Jon Paris writes: >> I’ve been posting to many different sites for twenty plus years and never >> had this kind of complaint. I can’t even find a way of telling my email >&g

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

On Jul 23, 2015, at 11:58 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Thu, 23 Jul 2015 09:59:22 -0400, Jon Paris writes: >> I am not familiar with the term “top post” - I’m guessing you mean that my >> reply came before your original message. >> >> My email does

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

On Jul 23, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Alan Gauld wrote: > On 23/07/15 14:59, Jon Paris wrote: > >> I am not familiar with the term “top post” > > See this wikipedia article which describes in detail all the > alternatives along with their relative merits. > > ht

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

On Jul 23, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 09:59:22AM -0400, Jon Paris wrote: > >> I am not familiar with the term “top post” - I’m guessing you mean >> that my reply came before your original message. > > Yes, it means "

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

On Jul 22, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 22/07/2015 15:16, Jon Paris wrote: >> Yup - the “xxx_todo_changeme” was the part that I meant. >> >> That might not constitute a “problem” for you but, for someone just starting >> out, exactly what is needed to

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

you are on the V3 list. Jon Paris jon.f.pa...@gmail.com On Jul 21, 2015, at 8:16 PM, Alan Gauld wrote: > On 21/07/15 21:19, Jon Paris wrote: >> The one example I specifically remember was this one >> http://code.activestate.com/recipes/ > > For Activestate check the lan

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

Yup - the “xxx_todo_changeme” was the part that I meant. That might not constitute a “problem” for you but, for someone just starting out, exactly what is needed to correct it was not obvious. I have subsequently resolved the issue. Jon Paris jon.f.pa...@gmail.com On Jul 22, 2015, at 9:52

Re: [Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

practice to begin with - but what do I know. Most of the other examples 2to3 converted (once I discovered it existed and how to use it in my setup) or I was able to decipher myself. I’ll take a look at your tutorial - thanks. Jon Paris jon.f.pa...@gmail.com On Jul 21, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Alan

[Tutor] Identifying V3 examples

I’m having problems identifying sites that feature V3 code. My learning is being hampered by having to worry about conversion for the vast majority of the examples I encounter. Any suggestions on how to deal with this? Jon Paris jon.f.pa...@gmail.com

Re: [Tutor] python sockets

Thank you for your help, this definitely gets me going in the right direction! On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Marc Tompkins wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Jon Engle wrote: > > Ok, so when I run the code it immediately terminates and never 'listens' > to >

Re: [Tutor] python sockets

Ok, so when I run the code it immediately terminates and never 'listens' to the ports in the loop. I have verified by running netstat -an | grep 65530 and the startingPort is not binding. ***Server*** Jons-Mac:Desktop Jon$ python response.py Please enter starting port: 65530 Jons-M

Re: [Tutor] python sockets

call last): File "response.py", line 31, in thread.start_new_thread(setup(port)) TypeError: start_new_thread expected at least 2 arguments, got 1 On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Marc Tompkins wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Jon Engle wrote: > >

Re: [Tutor] python sockets

Thank you for your help! This updated code does not "bind" the selected port to a "listen" state, it simply exits. I feel like part of this has to do with the creation of a procedure. Any ideas/recommendations on how to make this loop "bind" to a socket? #!/usr/bin/python # This is s

Re: [Tutor] Tutor Digest, Vol 124, Issue 21

or] python sockets > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 10/06/14 00:33, Jon Engle wrote: > > I am trying to open ports 1025-65535 with the following code > > Why would you want to do that? > It sounds like a great way to

[Tutor] python sockets

I am trying to open ports 1025-65535 with the following code (Mostly found online with small modifications). I am unable to "bind" anything other than the one port which is selected as input. What am I missing and how do I bind all the ports simultaneously? #!/usr/bin/python # This is se

[Tutor] Python

Could you link me to some beginners tutorials/idle codes thank you. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Excited about python

Dive into Python: http://diveintopython.org/ is what you're looking for. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

[Tutor] lambda vs list comp

Just as a matter of curiosity piqued by having to understand someone else's code. Is the difference here just a matter of style, or is one better somehow than the other? >>> l [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10] >>> ','.join([str(x) for x in l]) '0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10' >>> ','.join(map(lambda x:

Re: [Tutor] quoting and escaping

and the python used for the original text processing is in the same directory at itin-processing.py. It's a big ugly mess full of naive notes to myself, if anyone cares to look at it and offer any comments or advice I could not be anything but grate

[Tutor] quoting and escaping

All, Something I don't understand (so what else is new?) about quoting and escaping: s = """ "some" \"thing\" """ s ' "some" "thing" ' I've got strings like this: s = """[{"title" : "Egton, Yorkshire", "start" : new Date(1201,1,4), "description" : "Hardy's long name: Egton, Yorkshire.

[Tutor] changing string in place

to put the bits together with re.sub() (or str.replace() ?) in the right sort of loop. How can I return the string with _all_ the dates changed in place thus: """{"title" : "Hebertot, Normandie", "start" : "1203-11-07"... etc. instead of

Re: [Tutor] basic lists and loops question

heck everything that was going on. the appended merged dict got a "merged" key and the two dictionaries that were merged each got a "processed" key, then I post processed the list to remove the 'processed' dictionaries **whew**. Thanks f

Re: [Tutor] basic lists and loops question

Bob, and Kent, Many thanks! Sounds like the key 'processed' is created by the assignment x['processed'] = True. So those dictionaries that have not experienced this assignment have no such key. You should instead use: if 'processed' in x: Doh! Now that WAS obvious Try lst.remove(x) Now t

[Tutor] basic lists and loops question

ire', 'end': datetime.date(1216, 10, 2), 'start': datetime.date(1216, 9, 28), 'long-name': u'Lincoln, Lincolnshire.'} {'placename': u'Lincoln, Lincolnshire', 'processed': True, 'end': datetime.date(1216, 9, 30), 'start': datetime.date(1216, 9, 28), 'long-name': u'Lincoln, Lincolnshire.'} {'placename': u'Lincoln, Lincolnshire', 'processed': True, 'end': datetime.date(1216, 10, 2), 'start': datetime.date(1216, 10, 1), 'long-name': u'Lincoln, Lincolnshire.'} But if I try to call events() thus: for x in events(lst): if x['processed'] == True: print x I get a KeyError. Could someone explain what's going on here? Thanks, Jon ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

[Tutor] Nested, line by line, file reading

found a way for doing it. But still I don't really understand why I don't get two "1" lines printed. It seems that every line is read in "for startline f.read()" so "for endline in f.read()" will start reading but find no data, am I right? Thanks, Jon. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] aBSOLUTE BEGINNER

You can find Dive into Python online here: http://diveintopython.org/toc/index.html ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] accessing data in a usable format

What about this? dic = {} for line in file("findvalue.dat"): a,b,c,d = line.split() dic [a] = (float(b), float(c), float(d)) ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] newbie question

>From http://diveintopython.org/getting_to_know_python/index.html, we can get this solution which works no matter the size of the dictionaries: print ' '.join(["%s" % (v,) for k,v in menu_specials.items()]) It generates a formatted string for value in the dictionary and then joins them using whit

Re: [Tutor] Regex parsing and writing to file

Thanks Kent. I didn't see it. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Regex parsing and writing to file

Cool! It works :-) But I don't get it. Where is the redirection? Thanks Ken. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Regex parsing and writing to file

Tout,ETSL8)\r\n' ' ELSE_SLEEP\r\n' '\r\n' The file I got as a result won't work. I just wan't the pattern replaced. Do you know how could I do it? Thanks again, Jon. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Regex parsing and writing to file

Sorry, I think I should have explained what I was expecting to get. I wanted plain text back in my file. Real line feed and carrier returns instead of \r and \n, and so on. Thanks again, Jon. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org

Re: [Tutor] Regex parsing and writing to file

tried without raw strings: re.sub('LOOP','PRUEBALOOP',line) but I got the same result. Any hint? Thanks, Jon. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] aBSOLUTE BEGINNER

> > This is my favourite all time beginner book > http://ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCS/python/english2e/html/index.html. IT is > in html, I don't know if you can get it in pdf. > You can find an revised PDF version here: http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/ It should be more up to date. _

Re: [Tutor] newbie question

There's also a specially tailored solution for dictionaries: print "%(breakfast)s %(lunch)s %(dinner)s" % menu_specials ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] more encoding confusion

On Sun, 5 Aug 2007, Kent Johnson wrote: Hmm...actually, isupper() works fine on unicode strings: In [18]: s='H\303\211RON'.decode('utf-8') In [21]: print 'H\303\211RON' HÉRON In [22]: s.isupper() Out[22]: True :-) I modified uppers to include only the latin characters, and added the apostroph

Re: [Tutor] more encoding confusion

Kent, Many thanks again, and thanks too to Paul at http://tinyurl.com/yrl8cy. That's very effective, thanks very much for the detailed explanation; however, I'm a little surprised that it's necessary. I would have thought that there would be some standard module that included a unicode equivalent

[Tutor] more encoding confusion

I'm parsing a utf-8 encoded file with lines characterized by placenames in all caps thus: HEREFORD, Herefordshire. ..other lines.. HÉRON (LE), Normandie. ..other lines.. I identify these lines for parsing using for line in data: if re.match(r'[A-Z]{2,}', line): but of course this catches

Re: [Tutor] UTF-8 title() string method

; Out[3]: <_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x11c1f00> Of course. I was misinterpreting why things were failing. It wasn't the regex, it was the decode() encode() round-trip. (a powerful argument for getting familiar with try/except error handling!) Again, many thanks for the education! Jon ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] UTF-8 title() string method

Terry, thanks. Sadly, I'm still missing something. I've tried all the aliases in locale.py, most return locale.Error: unsupported locale setting one that doesn't is: locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, ('fr_fr')) 'fr_fr' but if I set it thus it returns: Angoul?äMe, Angoumois. I'm running pyth

[Tutor] UTF-8 title() string method

ively? Many thanks, Jon ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] numbers and ranges

Kent, That's damned clever! Your solution hovers right at the limit of my understanding, but the print statements illustrate very clearly the operation of the function. Many thanks! Jon On Sun, 27 May 2007, Kent Johnson wrote: >> Here's a puzzle that should be simple, but I&#x

[Tutor] numbers and ranges

Dear all, Here's a puzzle that should be simple, but I'm so used to words that numbers tend to baffle me. I've got fields that look something like this: 1942. Oct. 1,3,5,7,8,9,10 I need to parse them to obtain something like this: The xml representation is incidental, the basic problem is

Re: [Tutor] urllib.urlencode and unicode strings

Kent, Thanks so much. It's easy when you know how. Now that I know, I only need the encode('utf-8') step since geopy does the urlencode step. On Thu, 17 May 2007, Kent Johnson wrote: > It's two steps. First convert to utf-8, then urlencode: c = u'\xe2' c > u'\xe2' c.encode('utf-8

[Tutor] urllib.urlencode and unicode strings

Dear all, I've got a python list of data pulled via ElementTree from an xml file that contains mixed str and unicode strings, like this: [u'Jumi\xe9ge, Normandie', 'Farringdon, Hampshire', 'Ravensworth, Durham', 'La Suse, Anjou', 'Lions, Normandie', 'Lincoln, Lincolnshire', 'Chelmsford, Esse

Re: [Tutor] beautifulSoup and .next iteration

igure this out. Thanks so much for your time! Jon > > You might find the following definitions helpful: > > # > def get_siblings_to_next_anchor(anchor): >"""Anchor Tag -> element list > >

[Tutor] beautifulSoup and .next iteration

A.*$')}) for x in anchors: print x x = x.next while getattr(x, 'name') != 'a': print x And get into endless loops. I can't help thinking there are simple and obvious ways to do this, probably many, but as a rank beginner,

[Tutor] Jon Papageorgiou is out of the office.

I will be Out of the Office Start Date: 8/4/2006. End Date: 8/12/2006. If you are in need of immediate support: Don’t call the Help Desk The Help Desk (590-9000) consultants are not trained to provide Command Center support. While they might attempt to assist you with your problem, the resul

[Tutor] Pyton and Webpages

o an excel spreadsheet and then write it to an html file and allow me to also click on the link to the excel spreadsheet. Is this possible to do with python? -- Jon Whitehouse ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Todays Learning Python Question From a Newbie ;)

All that does is reverse the hole!?!?x:2o:4x:7o:0x:80:5    O |   | X    -      | O | O    -      | X | X On 02/02/06, Wolfram Kraus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jon Moore wrote:[...]> Thanks to  André, there is a way to win every time if you take the first> move (se

Re: [Tutor] Todays Learning Python Question From a Newbie ;)

On 02/02/06, Alan Gauld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bob,>> Write a new computer_move() function for the tic-tac-toe game to plug>> the hole in the computers stratergy. See if you can create an opponent>> that is unbeatable!>> >> My main problem is that I can not see how the computers stratergy can>>

Re: [Tutor] Newbie question re. Functions

ote: On 31/01/06, Jon Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Improve the function ask_number() so that the function can be called with a> step value. Make the default value of step 1. >> The function looks like this:>> def ask_number(question, low, high):> """

[Tutor] Todays Learning Python Question From a Newbie ;)

e] = EMPTY     # since no one can win on next move, pick best open square    for move in BEST_MOVES:     if move in legal_moves(board):    print move     return move-- Best Regards Jon Moore ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Newbie question re. Functions

ors is to have a member of the target > audience "test" the book. You Jon have done that but at some cost to you> and those of us on this list.One advantage of doing my book as a web site first was that I had plentyof testers before committing to print (over 100k visitors). Mind y

Re: [Tutor] Newbie question re. Functions

DannyMany thanks for that, I notice a few erratas that I am yet to come up against. This will save my sanity (well some of it)1JonOn 31/01/06, Danny Yoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Jon Moore wrote:> I have been looking for contact details for the author to ask him wha

Re: [Tutor] Newbie question re. Functions

/01/06, Bob Gailer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jon Moore wrote:> Hi,>> I am still working my way through my 'Python for absolute beginners> book' and have hit a brick wall with one of the end of chapter exercises.>> The challenge says: >> Improve the function

Re: [Tutor] Newbie question re. Functions

I guess I am not going mad then!I will skip this exercise and move on.ThanksJonOn 31/01/06, Alan Gauld < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi Jon,> Improve the function ask_number() so that the function can be called with > a> step value. Make the default value of step 1.If its any consolati

[Tutor] Newbie question re. Functions

;step values' in anyway that I can see in the proceeding chapters!HELP!-- Best Regards Jon Moore ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Controling my loops and redundant code?!?

etty interesting exercise.PaulOn Thursday 26 January 2006 12:52 pm, Bob Gailer wrote:> At 08:44 AM 1/25/2006, Jon Moore wrote:>> Hi,> > I have written the program below as an exercise from a book I am working my> way through.>> Objective from book:> Write a character c

Re: [Tutor] Adding items to dictionaries

KentThanks again. I have a question (see below).On 26/01/06, Kent Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jon Moore wrote:> Hi,>> I have the following dictionary:>> pairs = {"Jon Moore": ["Tony Moore", "Stanley Moore"], >  "

[Tutor] Adding items to dictionaries

Hi,I have the following dictionary:pairs = {"Jon Moore": ["Tony Moore", "Stanley Moore"], "Simon Nightingale": ["John Nightingale", "Alan Nightingale"], "David Willett": ["Bernard Willet", "Rober

Re: [Tutor] Dictionaries

KentThanks! I have not come accross string formatting yet, but I can see how the for statement works.How would I modify this to just print either the values or keys?Jon On 26/01/06, Kent Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jon Moore wrote:> Hi>> Is there anyway to print in

[Tutor] Dictionaries

Hi Is there anyway to print informtation from dictionaries better than this?:   >>> pairs = {"Jon Moore": "Tony Moore", "Simon Nightingale": "John Nightingale", "David Willett": "Bernard Willet", "J

Re: [Tutor] Controling my loops and redundant code?!?

Alan   Many thanks, that is really useful.   I will go through this a bit at a time over the next few days to ensure I understand what I am doing!   I think functions come in the next chapter!   Jon  On 25/01/06, Alan Gauld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Jon,> 1. I am sure I have written

[Tutor] Controling my loops and redundant code?!?

Hi,I have written the program below as an exercise from a book I am working my way through.Objective from book:Write a character creator program for a role-playing-game. The player should be given a pool of 30 points to spend on four attributes: strength, health, wisdom and dexterity. The player sh

[Tutor] Indexing in a series for a newbie

ord jumble game and need to link the randomly chosen word to a hint should the user need one.-- Best Regards Jon Moore ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

[Tutor] Guess Your Number Game

HiI hope someone can help me!I am currently learning Python using a book by Michael Dawson. In one of the exercises I have to right a program that will guess a number chosen by the user.It is partly working, however it does not seem to keep state of numbers that should have already been ruled out a

[Tutor] (no subject)

I am new to Python, about 1 day. And I downloaded from python.org Pythong2.4, it has the command line and junk. But what actuall program compiles the source of python into a program? Any of the programs included in the package? And also, is Python capable of writing an OS? Jon

[Tutor] Check if user exist in domain

ut I receive is as follows: Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\python-components\getuser2.py", line 20, in ? win32con.LOGON32_PROVIDER_DEFAULT pywintypes.error: (1326, 'LogonUser', 'Logon failure: unknown user name or bad pa