[Tutor] Real world use of recursion

2014-09-09 Thread Deb Wyatt
Sorry to bother you all with what you might consider trivia, but someone in my course forum posted this statement: "I have never seen or heard of real uses of recursion except for proving cleverness," so I thought I would ask you all if that is true. Is it really not used in real world appli

Re: [Tutor] Read a file, Load a dictionary

2014-07-24 Thread Deb Wyatt
assuming you're > using version 3.5 > How do you get version 3.5? Python.org shows 3.41 as being the latest. Deb in WA, USA FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.c

Re: [Tutor] Anti-Patterns in Python Programming

2014-07-12 Thread Deb Wyatt
> -Original Message- > From: alan.ga...@btinternet.com > Sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 19:21:59 +0100 > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: Re: [Tutor] Anti-Patterns in Python Programming > > On 12/07/14 17:43, Deb Wyatt wrote: >> >>>> So much has been invent

Re: [Tutor] Anti-Patterns in Python Programming

2014-07-12 Thread Deb Wyatt
> -Original Message- > From: alan.ga...@btinternet.com > Sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:57:37 +0100 > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: Re: [Tutor] Anti-Patterns in Python Programming > > On 12/07/14 20:24, Deb Wyatt wrote: > >> CA Clipper was the main language

Re: [Tutor] Anti-Patterns in Python Programming

2014-07-12 Thread Deb Wyatt
Wow. Just wow! Thank you for all that information. That was really helpful. Thank you very much!! > What language or languages did you program with? CA Clipper was the main language I used in my former programming life (dBase compiler). A very simple, basic database manipulation language, b

Re: [Tutor] Anti-Patterns in Python Programming

2014-07-12 Thread Deb Wyatt
>> So much has been invented since my dos programming days and it is >> overwhelming, > > Actually very little has been *invented* since your DOS days. > Almost everything we do today was already around back then. > I knew someone was going to say that. Maybe it's the jargon that has been inven

Re: [Tutor] Anti-Patterns in Python Programming

2014-07-11 Thread Deb Wyatt
terns in Python Programming > > Hi Deb and others, > Most are for people coming from different languages like C/C++, Java and > so > on (I myself am coming from C++ world, and can speak both C++ and > Python). > Unless if you're working on specific things, don't worry about some of > the > conce

Re: [Tutor] Anti-Patterns in Python Programming

2014-07-11 Thread Deb Wyatt
lurkers and the like http://lignos.org/py_antipatterns/ >> Links of the format https://docs.python.org/3/howto/doanddont.html are >> always up to date, the one you give is by definition 3.1 specific and so >> will never change until such time as it presumably disappears >> completely. >

[Tutor] sometimes I feel like my head is going to explode

2014-07-10 Thread Deb Wyatt
The more I learn, the more I realize that there is so much more to learn, and the more difficult some of the stuff to learn seems to be. I'm not sure that I would have set out on this journey to learn Python if I had known how massive the task was going to be. I AM enjoying it, but my gosh, whe

Re: [Tutor] How does this work (iterating over a function)?

2014-07-09 Thread Deb Wyatt
> > Greetings, > > > I've been learning Python concepts for about 6 months now and was doing > okay with most of these. However, I ran into a fairly simple program > developed by Mark Pilgrim in his "Dive Into Python" text that puzzles me > and am hoping some of you can explain how this works.

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-05 Thread Deb Wyatt
> -Original Message- > From: d...@hashcollision.org > Sent: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 14:26:36 -0700 > To: codemon...@inbox.com > Subject: Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless? > >> I realize that this list doesn't have control over python.org, but there > are enough of yo

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-05 Thread Deb Wyatt
> -Original Message- > From: breamore...@yahoo.co.uk > Sent: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 19:26:41 +0100 > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless? > > On 05/07/2014 18:31, Deb Wyatt wrote: >> I am betting that a

[Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-05 Thread Deb Wyatt
I am betting that a big reason newbies don't go straight to documentation for answers is because of the useless quick search. You should be able to type 'dictionary' and get links to the dictionary info. You get a bunch of links that are meaningless to someone who wants to learn about how to u

Re: [Tutor] What are your favourite unofficial resources

2014-06-29 Thread Deb Wyatt
> -Original Message- > From: alan.ga...@btinternet.com > Sent: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 23:41:45 +0100 > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: [Tutor] What are your favourite unofficial resources > > I'm looking for tips for an appendix to a book that > I'm working on. > > What are the best unoffici

Re: [Tutor] Strange issue output not showing up as floats

2014-06-23 Thread Deb Wyatt
> > Not if you don't show us your code! > > > never mind. I figured it out. I was using %d instead > > of %f in my print statements. duh. > > 'duh', indeed but how could we possibly have helped since > you didn't post any print statements? > > In future post real code, real output and real

[Tutor] regarding my strange issue output not showing up as floats

2014-06-21 Thread Deb Wyatt
never mind. I figured it out. I was using %d instead of %f in my print statements. duh. Deb in WA, USA FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to fin

[Tutor] Strange issue output not showing up as floats

2014-06-21 Thread Deb Wyatt
Hello. I hope everyone is having a good day. I am working on an assignment that is supposed to output floats. I'm using floats in the computations and according to Python's rules the output should be floats, but it's not. When I test in Python shell the calculations display correctly, as flo

Re: [Tutor] A couple newbie questions about Python

2014-06-13 Thread Deb Wyatt
> -Original Message- > From: breamore...@yahoo.co.uk > Sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:18:16 +0100 > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: Re: [Tutor] A couple newbie questions about Python > > Please don't top post, it makes following a long thread extremely > difficult, thanks. > sorry. The other

Re: [Tutor] MIT - Free Python course started today

2014-06-13 Thread Deb Wyatt
oh cool. I actually started taking this here: http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-00sc-introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-spring-2011/ But to have access to a forum and other people taking it at the same time will be wonderful. thank you for po

Re: [Tutor] A couple newbie questions about Python

2014-06-12 Thread Deb Wyatt
; From: alan.ga...@btinternet.com > Sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 23:48:37 +0100 > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: Re: [Tutor] A couple newbie questions about Python > > On 11/06/14 21:46, Deb Wyatt wrote: >> Hi. Everywhere I have read, the 'standard practice' for indentatio

[Tutor] A couple newbie questions about Python

2014-06-11 Thread Deb Wyatt
Hi. Everywhere I have read, the 'standard practice' for indentation is 4 spaces, but I am running into 2 space indentation in a lot of tutorials and such. Should I keep with the 4 spaces, or does it even matter, as long as it is consistent? I just recently became aware of the inaccuracy of ca