[Tutor] Fwd: Re: Learning to program, not code. [LONG RESPONSE!]

2014-12-21 Thread boB Stepp
It appears that Michael only sent this to me when I think he meant to send it to the list... -- Forwarded message -- From: "Michael Shiloh" Date: Dec 21, 2014 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Tutor] Learning to program, not code. [LONG RESPONSE!] To: "boB Stepp" Cc: > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014

Re: [Tutor] Learning to program, not code.

2014-12-21 Thread Alan Gauld
On 21/12/14 09:21, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: Don't postpone writing unittests (don't use doctest). But do wait till you know what you will be testing. You can't write a unit test until you have a unit in mind. The OP seems to be struggling to figure out what units he needs. Once he has done tha

Re: [Tutor] Learning to program, not code.

2014-12-21 Thread Adam Jensen
On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:15:43 +1100 Ben Finney wrote: > Use a distributed version control system > (Mercurial is good and is written in Python) I'm beginning to really appreciate [fossil](http://fossil-scm.org/). Re: "Learning to program, not code". Is that like learning to think rather than

Re: [Tutor] Learning to program, not code.

2014-12-21 Thread Ben Finney
Albert-Jan Roskam writes: > Don't postpone writing unittests (don't use doctest). They really give > you focus and confidence (peace of mind!). Excellent advice. Write unit tests as a way of documenting what you want the function to do, and also to document what the function did wrong in that bu

Re: [Tutor] Learning to program, not code.

2014-12-21 Thread Albert-Jan Roskam
On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 3:30 AM CET Dave Angel wrote: >On 12/20/2014 08:16 PM, Brandon Dorsey wrote: >> >> I'm 28 years old, currently unemployed and not in school until fall of >> 2015 as a junior. I picked up python a little under a year ago, with the >> hopes that I

Re: [Tutor] Learning to program, not code.

2014-12-21 Thread Brandon Dorsey
> > I'm 28 years old, currently unemployed and not in school until fall of > 2015 as a junior. I picked up python a little under a year ago, with the > hopes that I could make a career out of programming - when I finish school > that is. So, as of right now you could say it's a hobby, however, I