Re: [Tutor] sometimes I feel like my head is going to explode

2014-07-10 Thread Alan Gauld
On 10/07/14 23:35, Deb Wyatt wrote: The more I learn, the more I realize that there is so much more to learn, Just get used to the idea that there is no end. Computer programming is such a young subject - less than 70 years old in practice - that it is still growing rapidly. By the time you lea

Re: [Tutor] How to Create Webpage with Python

2014-07-10 Thread Danny Yoo
> For future reference (assuming everything else goes well) how do I procure a more permanent server (i.e. one that doesn't run on my machine so that I can turn it off and still be able to visit my pages)? I'm hearing Apache and so forth being thrown around (I've read up a little on it) but it see

Re: [Tutor] How to Create Webpage with Python

2014-07-10 Thread John Cast
Thanks everyone again for the great support. Right now I have a very basic server running using the http module (I'm using python 3). My next step is to generating the HTML pages so that the formatting of the excel docs stays pretty much the same except that it gets shown on the web. For future

Re: [Tutor] sometimes I feel like my head is going to explode

2014-07-10 Thread Dave Angel
Mark Lawrence Wrote in message: > On > THINK BIG start small. Little steps. Divide and conquer. I'd guess > that you've heard at least one of those if not all of them. > > Personally I don't believe that you can call yourself a professional > programmer until you've inadvertantly written an

Re: [Tutor] sometimes I feel like my head is going to explode

2014-07-10 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 10Jul2014 14:35, Deb Wyatt wrote: The more I learn, the more I realize that there is so much more to learn, and the more difficult some of the stuff to learn seems to be. I'm not sure that I would have set out on this journey to learn Python if I had known how massive the task was going t

Re: [Tutor] sometimes I feel like my head is going to explode

2014-07-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 10/07/2014 23:35, Deb Wyatt wrote: The more I learn, the more I realize that there is so much more to learn, and the more difficult some of the stuff to learn seems to be. I'm not sure that I would have set out on this journey to learn Python if I had known how massive the task was going t

Re: [Tutor] sometimes I feel like my head is going to explode

2014-07-10 Thread Danny Yoo
By the way, there was a nice talk from Camille Fournier that might be relevant to you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc8sc-ELMhA Unfortunately, last time I checked, her presentation cuts off near the end. But the bangbangcon folks did a lot of great work on recording their conference, incl

Re: [Tutor] sometimes I feel like my head is going to explode

2014-07-10 Thread Sacha Rook
At some point in time you will get to a place where you know enough, never everything. That's what makes it fun -Original Message- From: Tutor [mailto:tutor-bounces+sacharook=gmail@python.org] On Behalf Of Deb Wyatt Sent: 10 July 2014 23:36 To: tutor@python.org Subject: [Tutor] som

Re: [Tutor] sometimes I feel like my head is going to explode

2014-07-10 Thread Danny Yoo
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Deb Wyatt wrote: > The more I learn, the more I realize that there is so much more to learn, and > the more difficult some of the stuff to learn seems to be. I'm not sure that > I would have set out on this journey to learn Python if I had known how > massive t

[Tutor] sometimes I feel like my head is going to explode

2014-07-10 Thread Deb Wyatt
The more I learn, the more I realize that there is so much more to learn, and the more difficult some of the stuff to learn seems to be. I'm not sure that I would have set out on this journey to learn Python if I had known how massive the task was going to be. I AM enjoying it, but my gosh, whe

Re: [Tutor] Anti-Patterns in Python Programming

2014-07-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 10/07/2014 19:06, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: Just came across this and thought it might be handy for newbies, lurkers and the like http://lignos.org/py_antipatterns/ This one is also nice: https://docs.python.org/3.1/howto/doanddont.html Links of the format https://docs.python.org/3/how

Re: [Tutor] Gmane archive/web site

2014-07-10 Thread Jim Byrnes
On 07/10/2014 11:59 AM, Alan Gauld wrote: I just tried accessing gmane and the web site(*) seems to be down. The news server is working OK but the web site is not responding. (*) www.gmane.org Is it a problem at my end? or are others experiencing the same? I just tried it and it timed out wit

Re: [Tutor] Gmane archive/web site

2014-07-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 10/07/2014 17:59, Alan Gauld wrote: I just tried accessing gmane and the web site(*) seems to be down. The news server is working OK but the web site is not responding. (*) www.gmane.org Is it a problem at my end? or are others experiencing the same? http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/

Re: [Tutor] Anti-Patterns in Python Programming

2014-07-10 Thread Albert-Jan Roskam
>Just came across this and thought it might be handy for newbies, lurkers and >the like http://lignos.org/py_antipatterns/ > This one is also nice: https://docs.python.org/3.1/howto/doanddont.html ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscrib

[Tutor] Gmane archive/web site

2014-07-10 Thread Alan Gauld
I just tried accessing gmane and the web site(*) seems to be down. The news server is working OK but the web site is not responding. (*) www.gmane.org Is it a problem at my end? or are others experiencing the same? -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ http:/

Re: [Tutor] How to Create Webpage with Python

2014-07-10 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Alex Kleider wrote: > If all you want is to check how your 'site' looks perhaps it'd be much > simpler to simply point your browser to your parent html file rather than > set up a server machine to serve it: > file:///home/yourusername/yoursubdirectory/index.html >

Re: [Tutor] How to Create Webpage with Python

2014-07-10 Thread Alex Kleider
On 2014-07-10 05:28, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:30 AM, John Cast wrote: It sounds like I need a server on my desktop? I need to create a site and host/serve this somehow using my server? Hosting websites off a desktop can be troublesome. Y

[Tutor] Anti-Patterns in Python Programming

2014-07-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
Just came across this and thought it might be handy for newbies, lurkers and the like http://lignos.org/py_antipatterns/ -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware bec

Re: [Tutor] How can I open and use gnome-terminal from a Python script?

2014-07-10 Thread Jim Byrnes
On 07/09/2014 04:16 PM, Walter Prins wrote: Hi Jim, On 9 July 2014 14:43, Jim Byrnes wrote: On 07/09/2014 04:27 AM, Walter Prins wrote: I forgot to mention I am using Linux (Ubuntu 12.04). I am working my way through a book about breezypythongui which uses Python 3, hence virtualenv. I

Re: [Tutor] How can I open and use gnome-terminal from a Python script?

2014-07-10 Thread Jim Byrnes
On 07/09/2014 05:40 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 09Jul2014 09:00, Jim Byrnes wrote: My mistake. I went to the Docs page and clicked on modules and then os. For some reason as I was scrolling down the page I thought the subject had changed and stopped reading. Now I see I stopped reading to s

Re: [Tutor] How to Create Webpage with Python

2014-07-10 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:30 AM, John Cast wrote: > I'm in unfamiliar territory with the web stuff, but it sounds so far like I > will generate an HTML doc every time I run my script and then somehow turn > that HTML doc into a static site? (My terminology is weak here I'm sure) If you go with t

Re: [Tutor] plz find error

2014-07-10 Thread Wolfgang Maier
plz provide info :( State the problem you are trying to solve and your program's expected output. Include any error messages you are getting - the full text not a summary. It's also helpful if you state the Python and OS version you are using. ___ T

Re: [Tutor] A beginner having problems with inheritance

2014-07-10 Thread Sydney Shall
On 09/07/2014 20:17, Danny Yoo wrote: My error was simply that I inadvertently used the same name for a method (function) in the derived class that I had already used in the parent class. The result was then a very obscure error because the wrong calculation was performed and later on an array wa

Re: [Tutor] How to Create Webpage with Python

2014-07-10 Thread Walter Prins
Hi, On 10 July 2014 02:30, John Cast wrote: > Web - Currently it looks like maybe static HTML page(s) generated every time > my script is run is the right way to go? It would be one way to proceed, yes, perhaps the most appropriate way for you for now. > It sounds like I need a server

Re: [Tutor] plz find error

2014-07-10 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 10/07/2014 08:23, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 10Jul2014 09:47, Mandar Dhadve wrote: #!/usr/bin/env python [... short program to send ICMP packets, purpose undescribed ...] Hi Mandar, Please describe the purpose and background of this program, and describe in what way it fails. Include a tra

Re: [Tutor] plz find error

2014-07-10 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 10Jul2014 09:47, Mandar Dhadve wrote: #!/usr/bin/env python [... short program to send ICMP packets, purpose undescribed ...] Hi Mandar, Please describe the purpose and background of this program, and describe in what way it fails. Include a transcript of a failed run if possible. Just