Re: [Tutor] The Whole Tree

2013-06-16 Thread eryksun
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > plus some more exotic built-ins, which I haven't shown. Some types that didn't make it into Steven's list: zip map filter enumerate reversed memoryview slice ellipsis, type(...) super classmetho

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread eryksun
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Roel Schroeven wrote: > Jim Mooney schreef: >> I'll get to here: >> >> {'alpha':'beta' >> >> Only my cursor is to the Left of the final quote. Then I have to go >> hunt the Right Arrow or End key In PyScripter you can just type the closing quote/brace over the aut

Re: [Tutor] Python and Symbolic Math for beginners

2013-06-16 Thread Amit Saha
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: > On 16 June 2013 20:18, Amit Saha wrote: >> >> This is a new tutorial the SymPy guys are working on: >> http://docs.sympy.org/tutorial/tutorial/index.html > > Thanks. A lot of math bored me but I see it has matrices, and I really > liked linear

Re: [Tutor] Python and Symbolic Math for beginners

2013-06-16 Thread Amit Saha
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: > On 16 June 2013 20:18, Amit Saha wrote: >> >> This is a new tutorial the SymPy guys are working on: >> http://docs.sympy.org/tutorial/tutorial/index.html > > Thanks. A lot of math bored me but I see it has matrices, and I really > liked linear

Re: [Tutor] Python and Symbolic Math for beginners

2013-06-16 Thread Jim Mooney
On 16 June 2013 20:18, Amit Saha wrote: > > This is a new tutorial the SymPy guys are working on: > http://docs.sympy.org/tutorial/tutorial/index.html Thanks. A lot of math bored me but I see it has matrices, and I really liked linear algebra for some odd reason. I might fool with it again since

Re: [Tutor] Python and Symbolic Math for beginners

2013-06-16 Thread Amit Saha
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: >> yeah, I am playing with the Python 3 version. Works great so far. > > I didn't even look at the docs, but I think I got the solve part > working. I cut down on typing a bit, though. Typing Symbol all day > long could get tedious: > > from sympy

Re: [Tutor] Python and Symbolic Math for beginners

2013-06-16 Thread Jim Mooney
> yeah, I am playing with the Python 3 version. Works great so far. I didn't even look at the docs, but I think I got the solve part working. I cut down on typing a bit, though. Typing Symbol all day long could get tedious: from sympy import Symbol as S, solve, pprint a,b,c,x = S('a'),S('b'),S('c

Re: [Tutor] Python and Symbolic Math for beginners

2013-06-16 Thread Jim Mooney
On 16 June 2013 18:28, Amit Saha wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, bob gailer wrote: >> On 6/15/2013 5:53 AM, Amit Saha wrote: >>> >>> Symbolic math? >> >> What is that? > > Eg: https://gist.github.com/amitsaha/5787802 x wasn't defined, and it didn't look like you needed solve(expr,x

Re: [Tutor] Python and Symbolic Math for beginners

2013-06-16 Thread Amit Saha
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: > On 16 June 2013 18:28, Amit Saha wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, bob gailer wrote: >>> On 6/15/2013 5:53 AM, Amit Saha wrote: Symbolic math? >>> >>> What is that? >> >> Eg: https://gist.github.com/amitsaha/5787802 > >

Re: [Tutor] Python and Symbolic Math for beginners

2013-06-16 Thread Amit Saha
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:14 PM, epi wrote: > i guess you'll find this pretty interesting : > > http://nbviewer.ipython.org/url/edu.scios.ch/sympy/nb_sample_sympy.ipynb > > sympy latex rendering using the ipython notebook … > > Have fun ;) Thanks, I am aware of that. I was asking for any other b

Re: [Tutor] Python and Symbolic Math for beginners

2013-06-16 Thread pyt...@outofoptions.net
On 06/16/2013 10:14 PM, epi wrote: i guess you'll find this pretty interesting : http://nbviewer.ipython.org/url/edu.scios.ch/sympy/nb_sample_sympy.ipynb sympy latex rendering using the ipython notebook ... Have fun ;) Is this intertwined with Sage? I know Sage is mostly python. http://www.

Re: [Tutor] Python and Symbolic Math for beginners

2013-06-16 Thread epi
i guess you'll find this pretty interesting : http://nbviewer.ipython.org/url/edu.scios.ch/sympy/nb_sample_sympy.ipynb sympy latex rendering using the ipython notebook … Have fun ;) Il giorno 15/giu/2013, alle ore 05:53, Amit Saha ha scritto: > Hello Tutors, > > Would any of you have any te

Re: [Tutor] Python and Symbolic Math for beginners

2013-06-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On 17/06/13 11:25, bob gailer wrote: On 6/15/2013 5:53 AM, Amit Saha wrote: Symbolic math? What is that? Algebra, calculus and similar. py> import sympy py> x = sympy.Symbol('x') py> ((x + 2)**3).expand() x**3 + 6*x**2 + 12*x + 8 Where possible, it calculates exact mathematical results:

Re: [Tutor] Python and Symbolic Math for beginners

2013-06-16 Thread bob gailer
On 6/15/2013 5:53 AM, Amit Saha wrote: Symbolic math? What is that? -- Bob Gailer 919-636-4239 Chapel Hill NC ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Python and Symbolic Math for beginners

2013-06-16 Thread Amit Saha
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, bob gailer wrote: > On 6/15/2013 5:53 AM, Amit Saha wrote: >> >> Symbolic math? > > What is that? Eg: https://gist.github.com/amitsaha/5787802 -- http://echorand.me ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscr

Re: [Tutor] Getting the real exception clause

2013-06-16 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 17/06/2013 01:12, Dave Angel wrote: On 06/16/2013 08:04 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: On 16 June 2013 16:41, Dave Angel wrote: But if you have some other reason to do it your way, then just look at the type of err. print( type(err), err) Yes, that's what I was looking for. It's just a learning

Re: [Tutor] Getting the real exception clause

2013-06-16 Thread Jim Mooney
> I'd look closer at the IDE and see if it's configurable to remove ugly > features. Well, at least the BUNG! which sounds like a spring flew out of my front end. It's a jarring "feature" ;') Jim ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or

Re: [Tutor] Getting the real exception clause

2013-06-16 Thread Dave Angel
On 06/16/2013 08:04 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: On 16 June 2013 16:41, Dave Angel wrote: But if you have some other reason to do it your way, then just look at the type of err. print( type(err), err) Yes, that's what I was looking for. It's just a learning tool to see the exceptions without the u

Re: [Tutor] Getting the real exception clause

2013-06-16 Thread Jim Mooney
On 16 June 2013 16:41, Dave Angel wrote: > But if you have some other reason to do it your way, then just look at the > type of err. > > print( type(err), err) > Yes, that's what I was looking for. It's just a learning tool to see the exceptions without the ugly BUNG! and red traceback screen I g

Re: [Tutor] Getting the real exception clause

2013-06-16 Thread Dave Angel
On 06/16/2013 04:26 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: '''I'm using general Exception to print out what the exception is until I learn them, but it will print out "[Errno 2] No such file or directory" in this case, when the real exception I'd need to use in an except clause is FileNotFoundError. How do I get

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Alan Gauld
On 17/06/13 00:12, Jim Mooney wrote: There is also an active community writing third-party plugins for Vim and this is probably where the bulk of significant new features are developed. So as Dr. Frankenstein exclaimed: "It's Alive!" ;') Vim as a project is very much alive but to be honest I u

Re: [Tutor] The Whole Tree

2013-06-16 Thread Dave Angel
On 06/16/2013 01:21 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: My first impression of Python was that it had dynamic types but didn't mix them. so if I was wrong on equality, is there a general rule of what different types can still be equal? Is it an inheritance thing? Several other good replies, but I'll give my

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Alan Gauld
On 16/06/13 19:55, Joel Goldstick wrote: I think VIM is somehow a descendent of TECO I think your confusing it with emacs which originally stood for EditingMACroS and was just a set of Teco macros which made it easier to use. Then James Gosling and Richard Stallman got their respective hands

Re: [Tutor] The Whole Tree

2013-06-16 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 16 June 2013 20:49, Jim Mooney wrote: > On 16 June 2013 11:32, Andreas Perstinger wrote: > >> I'm not sure if that's what you are looking for but the language reference >> describes the standard type hierarchy: >> http://docs.python.org/3/reference/datamodel.html#the-standard-type-hierarchy >

Re: [Tutor] How to find descendants recursively?

2013-06-16 Thread Dave Angel
On 06/16/2013 01:20 PM, Timo wrote: I have a datafile which is parsed by an external library, I'm having trouble creating a hierarchical structure of the data. This is what I got so far: items = get_items() # returns a generator for item in items: print(item) children = get_children(i

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Jim Mooney
> There is also an active community writing third-party plugins for Vim > and this is probably where the bulk of significant new features are > developed. So as Dr. Frankenstein exclaimed: "It's Alive!" ;') -- Jim After indictment the bacon smuggler was put on the no-fry list ___

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On 16 June 2013 18:49, Jim Mooney wrote: > Although an editor that's been around since the stone age > probably doesn't blow up. I doubt VIM has a constant stream of > upgrades (not always compatible), bug fixes, and security fixes ;') I use Vim pretty much exclusively and work on Linux and Windo

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:01 PM, pyt...@outofoptions.net < pyt...@outofoptions.net> wrote: > On 06/16/2013 01:49 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: > >> VIM sounds good but I don't think there's a version for Windows. > > There definitely is a windows version Keeping different programs open is great if you ha

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread pyt...@outofoptions.net
On 06/16/2013 01:49 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: VIM sounds good but I don't think there's a version for Windows. Keeping different programs open is great if you have dual monitors, which I did when I was webmastering. Alas, some $#@ fooled with my computer and wiped out the dual monitor card. But whe

Re: [Tutor] Getting the real exception clause

2013-06-16 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 16/06/2013 21:26, Jim Mooney wrote: '''I'm using general Exception to print out what the exception is until I learn them, but it will print out "[Errno 2] No such file or directory" in this case, when the real exception I'd need to use in an except clause is FileNotFoundError. How do I get the

[Tutor] Getting the real exception clause

2013-06-16 Thread Jim Mooney
'''I'm using general Exception to print out what the exception is until I learn them, but it will print out "[Errno 2] No such file or directory" in this case, when the real exception I'd need to use in an except clause is FileNotFoundError. How do I get the exception I need to use in the except cl

Re: [Tutor] The Whole Tree

2013-06-16 Thread Jim Mooney
On 16 June 2013 11:32, Andreas Perstinger wrote: > I'm not sure if that's what you are looking for but the language reference > describes the standard type hierarchy: > http://docs.python.org/3/reference/datamodel.html#the-standard-type-hierarchy Yes, that's what I meant. I was thinking of an ac

Re: [Tutor] The Whole Tree

2013-06-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On 17/06/13 03:21, Jim Mooney wrote: My first impression of Python was that it had dynamic types but didn't mix them. so if I was wrong on equality, is there a general rule of what different types can still be equal? Is it an inheritance thing? The general rule is, types can define equality wha

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Joel Goldstick
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Steve Willoughby wrote: > > On 16-Jun-2013, at 11:35, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > > On 17/06/13 03:59, Steve Willoughby wrote: > >> > >> On 16-Jun-2013, at 10:49, Jim Mooney wrote: > >> > >>> On 16 June 2013 01:43, Roel Schroeven wrote: > >>> > Can't you di

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Steve Willoughby
On 16-Jun-2013, at 11:35, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On 17/06/13 03:59, Steve Willoughby wrote: >> >> On 16-Jun-2013, at 10:49, Jim Mooney wrote: >> >>> On 16 June 2013 01:43, Roel Schroeven wrote: >>> Can't you disable that behavior somewhere in the settings of your IDE? I know IDE

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On 17/06/13 03:59, Steve Willoughby wrote: On 16-Jun-2013, at 10:49, Jim Mooney wrote: On 16 June 2013 01:43, Roel Schroeven wrote: Can't you disable that behavior somewhere in the settings of your IDE? I know IDEs do that to be helpful, but I don't like it and so far I've been able to dis

Re: [Tutor] The Whole Tree

2013-06-16 Thread Andreas Perstinger
On 16.06.2013 19:21, Jim Mooney wrote: Speaking of which, I put "Python class hierarchy" in Google but just got a bunch of specific wheeze. What I want is a list of the whole tree. Is there such, or a way I can generate it? I'm not sure if that's what you are looking for but the language refer

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On 17/06/13 03:25, Jim Mooney wrote: On 15 June 2013 23:30, Dave Angel wrote: The sort() method doesn't work, but sorted does. How many times have I read you can't sort a dictionary in Python. Was I just misreading or was that true of older Pythons? You can't sort a dictionary, because dic

Re: [Tutor] just cleared the moderation queue., sorry for the backlog.

2013-06-16 Thread Jim Mooney
On 16 June 2013 08:15, Alan Gauld wrote: > FWIW about 6 or7 genuine messages and about a dozen spam... > The usual ratio... :-( > I was wondering why my message showed up late. I Already had the answer and it was only moderated because I tried a picture attachment to reply to a query. Only a doz

Re: [Tutor] How to redirect console output to a TextEdit box on a QT Python Gui ?

2013-06-16 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:15 PM, SM wrote: > Hi > I have implemented a GUI using PyQt4/python3, which allows the user to > select a few files as command-line arguments. When I hit "OK" button, my > application runs and the output text is displayed on the terminal where I > run the python script. I

Re: [Tutor] How to find descendants recursively?

2013-06-16 Thread Alan Gauld
On 16/06/13 18:20, Timo wrote: items = get_items() # returns a generator for item in items: print(item) children = get_children(item) # also returns a generator for child in children: print("--", child) This is fine as it will get the children for each parent item. I can

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Steve Willoughby
On 16-Jun-2013, at 10:49, Jim Mooney wrote: > On 16 June 2013 01:43, Roel Schroeven wrote: > >> Can't you disable that behavior somewhere in the settings of your IDE? I >> know IDEs do that to be helpful, but I don't like it and so far I've been >> able to disable it in all IDEs I've used. >

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: > On 15 June 2013 23:30, Dave Angel wrote: > The sort() method doesn't work, but sorted does. > > How many times have I read you can't sort a dictionary in Python. Was > I just misreading or was that true of older Pythons? Dicts have no ord

Re: [Tutor] The Whole Tree

2013-06-16 Thread Alan Gauld
On 16/06/13 18:21, Jim Mooney wrote: My first impression of Python was that it had dynamic types but didn't mix them. Umm yes, sort of. It depends on how you define some of those terms though. "mix them"??? so if I was wrong on equality, is there a general rule of what different types can

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Jim Mooney
On 16 June 2013 01:43, Roel Schroeven wrote: > Can't you disable that behavior somewhere in the settings of your IDE? I > know IDEs do that to be helpful, but I don't like it and so far I've been > able to disable it in all IDEs I've used. PyScripter does in Tools > Options > IDE Options > Edito

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Jim Mooney
On 15 June 2013 23:30, Dave Angel wrote: >>> The sort() method doesn't work, but sorted does. How many times have I read you can't sort a dictionary in Python. Was I just misreading or was that true of older Pythons? -- Jim After indictment the bacon smuggler was put on the no-fry list ___

[Tutor] The Whole Tree

2013-06-16 Thread Jim Mooney
My first impression of Python was that it had dynamic types but didn't mix them. so if I was wrong on equality, is there a general rule of what different types can still be equal? Is it an inheritance thing? Speaking of which, I put "Python class hierarchy" in Google but just got a bunch of specif

[Tutor] How to find descendants recursively?

2013-06-16 Thread Timo
I have a datafile which is parsed by an external library, I'm having trouble creating a hierarchical structure of the data. This is what I got so far: items = get_items() # returns a generator for item in items: print(item) children = get_children(item) # also returns a generator for

[Tutor] How to redirect console output to a TextEdit box on a QT Python Gui ?

2013-06-16 Thread SM
Hi I have implemented a GUI using PyQt4/python3, which allows the user to select a few files as command-line arguments. When I hit "OK" button, my application runs and the output text is displayed on the terminal where I run the python script. I would like to redirect this text to a TextEdit window

Re: [Tutor] Hi, First question

2013-06-16 Thread Alan Gauld
On 15/06/13 06:22, Patrick Williams wrote: Hi so I am making a bit of code to extract a bit of numbers data from a file and then find the average of that data, however while I can get the code to extract each specific piece of data I need, I can't seem to get the numbers to add separately so I c

Re: [Tutor] 2 basic problems

2013-06-16 Thread Alan Gauld
On 16/06/13 16:45, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote: Moreover, you could do it all in one step ('w+' stands for “clear file and allow read/write output”, while f.seek(0) is used to return the pointer back to the beginning of the file): I'm always very wary of recommending mixed read/write mode t

Re: [Tutor] Hi, First question

2013-06-16 Thread Steve Willoughby
On 16-Jun-2013, at 09:21, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 16/06/2013 16:55, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Patrick Williams wrote: >>> Hi so I am making a bit of code to extract a bit of numbers data from a file >>> and then find the average of that data, however

Re: [Tutor] Hi, First question

2013-06-16 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 16/06/2013 16:55, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Patrick Williams wrote: Hi so I am making a bit of code to extract a bit of numbers data from a file and then find the average of that data, however while I can get the code to extract each specific piece of d

Re: [Tutor] python web related scripts needed

2013-06-16 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 12/06/2013 13:48, Manigopal Vepati wrote: Hi, I need scripts for the following . 1) check whether username and password fields are present in Gmail 2)Code to access the system which doesn’t have ip address i am using python 3.3 thanks manigopal Sorry but we don't work in this manner.

Re: [Tutor] python web related scripts needed

2013-06-16 Thread Steve Willoughby
On 12-Jun-2013, at 05:48, Manigopal Vepati wrote: > Hi, > > I need scripts for the following . > > 1) check whether username and password fields are present in Gmail > 2) Code to access the system which doesn’t have ip address > And what have you found as you've started writing those scripts

Re: [Tutor] Hi, First question

2013-06-16 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Patrick Williams wrote: > Hi so I am making a bit of code to extract a bit of numbers data from a file > and then find the average of that data, however while I can get the code to > extract each specific piece of data I need, I can't seem to get the numbers > to a

Re: [Tutor] 2 basic problems

2013-06-16 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:23 PM, charles benoit wrote: > 1:Python 2.7.4 (default, Apr 19 2013, 18:32:33) > [GCC 4.7.3] on linux2 > Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information. 4+4 > 8 3+3=4 > SyntaxError: can't assign to operator 3=1 > SyntaxError: can't assign

Re: [Tutor] Hi, First question

2013-06-16 Thread Alexander
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Patrick Williams wrote: > Hi so I am making a bit of code to extract a bit of numbers data from a > file and then find the average of that data, however while I can get the > code to extract each specific piece of data I need, I can't seem to get the > numbers to

Re: [Tutor] On a looping input, subsequent inputs are hidden

2013-06-16 Thread eryksun
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: > On 11 June 2013 05:59, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. Second and subsequent inputs? I >> only see one. Hide the input with dots? >> >> Can you copy and paste an example? > > That would be a graphic of t

Re: [Tutor] 2 basic problems

2013-06-16 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
El 29/05/13 18:23, charles benoit escribió: 1:Python 2.7.4 (default, Apr 19 2013, 18:32:33) [GCC 4.7.3] on linux2 Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information. >>> 4+4 8 >>> 3+3=4 SyntaxError: can't assign to operator >>> 3=1 SyntaxError: can't assign to literal > I thought the

[Tutor] Hi, First question

2013-06-16 Thread Patrick Williams
Hi so I am making a bit of code to extract a bit of numbers data from a file and then find the average of that data, however while I can get the code to extract each specific piece of data I need, I can't seem to get the numbers to add separately so I can get a proper average. My sum1 variable see

[Tutor] just cleared the moderation queue., sorry for the backlog.

2013-06-16 Thread Alan Gauld
FWIW about 6 or7 genuine messages and about a dozen spam... The usual ratio... :-( -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://

[Tutor] python web related scripts needed

2013-06-16 Thread Manigopal Vepati
Hi, I need scripts for the following . 1) check whether username and password fields are present in Gmail 2) Code to access the system which doesn’t have ip address i am using python 3.3 thanks manigopal ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To un

[Tutor] 2 basic problems

2013-06-16 Thread charles benoit
1:Python 2.7.4 (default, Apr 19 2013, 18:32:33) [GCC 4.7.3] on linux2 Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information. >>> 4+4 8 >>> 3+3=4 SyntaxError: can't assign to operator >>> 3=1 SyntaxError: can't assign to literal > I thought the last 2 lines should return False 2: lot=('1

[Tutor] a bug which I can't fix

2013-06-16 Thread Gal Hyams
I'm using win 7 64 bit, and Python 3.3. I've ask the flowing question on a form, and friends of mine, and I've brought here the answers. I've made after the instactions, and yet, the problem isn't fixed.. can someone help me on this, please? When I open Python's IDLE, sometimes and error name 'po

Re: [Tutor] producing PDF files

2013-06-16 Thread Chris Fuller
On Tuesday, June 11, 2013, Khalid Al-Ghamdi wrote: > Hi, > > Do you know of a python module for converting text files to PDF format? > > thanks Another one, that I've used extensively, is ReportLab. http://www.reportlab.com/software/opensource/ Cheers ___

Re: [Tutor] Issue w/ program: Flip a coin and count heads and tails

2013-06-16 Thread Bhanu Pratap Singh
Hi Rafeal, You have called random function two times. It must be called single time and check if it produced 1 or 2. See my code. /* code ---*/ import random print(""" This program flips a coin 10 times. It then counts the number of heads and tails.

Re: [Tutor] What is the difference between checking false?

2013-06-16 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Jim Mooney wrote: > On 15 June 2013 22:32, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-June/649710.html > > A succinct list - worth putting in my Keep file ;') > > - > Jim > After indictment the bacon smuggler was put on the no-fry

Re: [Tutor] What are these two string-formatting styles called?

2013-06-16 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Dave Angel wrote: > You were thinking of the OOP-sense of the word, but you didn't say it. So > the listener might choose to figure you meant "method" as in "technique". > After all the word style is used in its English meaning, even though Word > documents can hav

Re: [Tutor] What is the difference between checking false?

2013-06-16 Thread eryksun
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: > > ## Comparing different types for equality always fails: > > if '5' != 5: > print('oops') It depends on the __eq__ and __ne__ methods defined by the types. int and str have their own implementations of "rich comparisons". But that's a sub

Re: [Tutor] What is the difference between checking false?

2013-06-16 Thread eryksun
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Jim Mooney wrote: > > class NobodyHome: pass > x = NobodyHome() > print(not x) # Result is False when I thought this would be True. Quote: >> If neither __bool__ nor __len__ is defined, the object defaults to being >> truthy: >> >> >>> not not object() >>

Re: [Tutor] Is there a programmatic use for keys() and values()

2013-06-16 Thread Roel Schroeven
Jim Mooney schreef: On 15 June 2013 14:55, Alan Gauld wrote: I think your making it harder than it is. Just use the result as you would expect and it will work. I just meant that since I'm learning I'll create a dictionary on the fly to try something out. All goes well except my IDE will typ